Who goes to decision the most?

[Din71]

I was bored and thought I would take a look to see what fighters most consistantly go the distance and do not finish fights. What I did was take a look at a persons total number of fights that have gone to a decision and divided that number by their total number of fights, win or lose.

 

Couple points here

 

- This is not a comprehensive list, I just grabbed 40 or so more popular fighters, if anyone is interested, I can add in more.

- This info is based mostly off wikipedia, so take it with a grain of salt.

- I tried to only include fighters with more than 15 fights to get a reasonable sample size, I realize that I did not succeed and some of these fighters have less than that so their numbers may be a little scewed.

- If you see any blantant errors, let me know.

- I dont know how to format this pretty, so the list just shows the fighter and the percentage of their fights that have gone to a decision.

- I am pretty sure Mr Edgar will not have another decision to make his percentage even worse!

 

 

The higher they are on the list, the more likely they are to go to a decision.

 

Fighter % of total fights going to a Decision

G Maynard 70%

F Edgar 58%

L Machida 56%

M Serra 53%

D Henderson 50%

J Fitch 48%

T Griffin 44%

R Evans 44%

Lil Nog 43%

B Vera 40%

F Griffin 39%

J Koscheck 39%

C Guida 39%

N Diaz 38%

K Jardine 36%

Big Nog 36%

V Belfort 33%

C Kongo 33%

D Sanchez 33%

R Couture 33%

P Cote 33%

T Alves 32%

D Hardy 32%

Rampage 30%

GSP 29%

C Liddel 29%

BJ Penn 29%

W Silva 25%

T Ortiz 25%

A Silva 24%

M Hughes 22%

M Hamill 20%

K Florian 19%

M Filipovic 17%

M Bisping 15%

C Valesquez 14%

M Rua 14%

F Emelianenko 14%

R Franklin 13%

F Mir 12%

B Rothwell 11%

G Mousasi 10%

A Overeem 9%

A Arlovski 9%

B Rodgers 0%

[UFCCagerattler]

Fitch is the name that comes to me right away.

[phd425]

i always thought of forrest as the dude who could never finish a fight.

[jng1]

where's gray maynard on that list?

[jng1]

where's gray maynard on that list?

 

more then 15 fights i see, but still he should be on the list.

[Din71]

Yeah, Fitch and Forrest are high on the list.

 

One extra point, I don't think it is necessarily bad that fights go the distance. The only bad thing about that is leaving close fights to the discresion of the judges.

 

ie. Guida has almost a 40% chance to not finish a fight, but his fights are generally more entertaining than most.

[Din71]

where's gray maynard on that list?

 

Ill look, remember, I did this quickly and I know I missed a lot of fighters.

[jng1]

chael sonnen dec win ratio 58.3...% (i'm just looking at total number of wins and the ratio of wins that go to dec, not including losses draws etc)

[Din71]

where's gray maynard on that list?

 

He is #1!

[jng1]

He is #1!

 

thought so.

[jng1]

chael sonnen dec win ratio 58.3...% (i'm just looking at total number of wins and the ratio of wins that go to dec' date=' not including losses draws etc)[/quote']

 

42.8% overall, i think win ratio is more accurate though cause, by losing they're not necessarily fighting their fight cause the other guy might be dominating, so to get more of an accurate result of what fighter would be more likely to go to dec is to look at how they win fights, would anyone agree with this? i'm pretty tired so it's kind of hard to explain properly

[The_Brown_Joby]

I was bored and thought I would take a look to see what fighters most consistantly go the distance and do not finish fights. What I did was take a look at a persons total number of fights that have gone to a decision and divided that number by their total number of fights' date=' win or lose.

 

Couple points here

 

- This is not a comprehensive list, I just grabbed 40 or so more popular fighters, if anyone is interested, I can add in more.

- This info is based mostly off wikipedia, so take it with a grain of salt.

- I tried to only include fighters with more than 15 fights to get a reasonable sample size, I realize that I did not succeed and some of these fighters have less than that so their numbers may be a little scewed.

- If you see any blantant errors, let me know.

- I dont know how to format this pretty, so the list just shows the fighter and the percentage of their fights that have gone to a decision.

- I am pretty sure Mr Edgar will not have another decision to make his percentage even worse!

 

 

The higher they are on the list, the more likely they are to go to a decision.

 

Fighter % of total fights going to a Decision

G Maynard 70%

F Edgar 58%

L Machida 56%

M Serra 53%

D Henderson 50%

J Fitch 48%

R Evans 44%

Lil Nog 43%

B Vera 40%

F Griffin 39%

J Koscheck 39%

C Guida 39%

N Diaz 38%

K Jardine 36%

Big Nog 36%

V Belfort 33%

C Kongo 33%

D Sanchez 33%

R Couture 33%

P Cote 33%

T Alves 32%

D Hardy 32%

Rampage 30%

GSP 29%

C Liddel 29%

BJ Penn 29%

W Silva 25%

T Ortiz 25%

A Silva 24%

M Hughes 22%

M Hamill 20%

K Florian 19%

M Filipovic 17%

M Bisping 15%

C Valesquez 14%

M Rua 14%

F Emelianenko 14%

R Franklin 13%

F Mir 12%

B Rothwell 11%

G Mousasi 10%

A Overeem 9%

A Arlovski 9%

B Rodgers 0%[/quote']

 

 

great post.

 

cool info.

[Za_Xiong]

Lyoto Hater camed to me right away; but you got other names too so I'm good.

[BioHazard8021]

i always thought of forrest as the dude who could never finish a fight.

 

Yes.

 

Love watching the guy, but no finishing ability.

[Din71]

Lyoto Hater camed to me right away; but you got other names too so I'm good.

 

no no no, I really dont' hate any fighters. Mir is by far my least favorite, but I am sure he does his "show" just to attract viewers.

 

I do admit I though, I did this analysis after seeing a few posts about people complaining that GSP never finishes fights. I wanted to see where he actually fit in with the rest of the crowd by analysing some numbers, instead of my own opinion.

[TheTerribleWilliamson]

This is interesting, I'd be curious to know the percentage of all UFC fighters.

[Din71]

This is interesting' date=' I'd be curious to know the percentage of all UFC fighters.[/quote']

 

 

Same, but I don't know if anywhere to get reliable, up to date information to do it. I don't want to look u p each fighter! lol

 

One interesting thing I found was the top four fighter with the best chance of NOT going to a desicion are not in the UFC.

[Bubba_Pilks]

no no no' date=' I really dont' hate any fighters. Mir is by far my least favorite, but I am sure he does his "show" just to attract viewers.

 

I do admit I though, I did this analysis after seeing a few posts about people complaining that GSP never finishes fights. I wanted to see where he actually fit in with the rest of the crowd by analysing some numbers, instead of my own opinion.[/quote']

 

Just a little note, you should maybe change your sig to

 

in 19 wins because 8 + 5 + 6 = 19

 

Just a thought

[Technique]

nice work!! Great thread. It was interesting to see where these guys fell on the list. The thing is though you can't take it too literally because each fighter faces different competition and it's harder to finish certain guys than others.

[Vaseline]

32 fights and only 14% decision

 

Fedor is the ****

[BioHazard8021]

Just a little note' date=' you should maybe change your sig to

 

in 19 wins because 8 + 5 + 6 = 19

 

Just a thought[/quote']

 

Except that his sig says 21 fights, not 21 victories.

 

He's lost twice. 19-2

[Din71]

Just a little note' date=' you should maybe change your sig to

 

in 19 wins because 8 + 5 + 6 = 19

 

Just a thought[/quote']

 

 

2 loses.

[Bubba_Pilks]

2 loses.

 

Hence why i said wins, I know that he had 2 losses, one via tko and the other submission

 

It was just a thought

[juice64011]

While fighting in the UFC Tyson Griffin is sitting around 78%. Before he got into the UFC I don't think that he had very many decisions though.

[Din71]

Hence why i said wins' date=' I know that he had 2 losses, one via tko and the other submission

 

It was just a thought[/quote']

 

 

I added the 2 loses in, so it reconciles nicely now.

[Din71]

While fighting in the UFC Tyson Griffin is sitting around 78%. Before he got into the UFC I don't think that he had very many decisions though.

 

He is around 44% overall, including pre-UFC.

 

An interesting fact (based on wiki) is in his 9 UFC bouts he has won fight of the night 5 times, and sub of the night once!!

 

Is this correct????

[chosen_st]

Funny to see Gray Maynard up there, especially after that last performance he put out against Nate Diaz. A little more funny that he thought he would get a title shot after running around for 3 rounds and refusing to go anywhere near the ground, cause we all know he wasn't going to finish it standing up.

 

All in all, pretty insightful post. Theres some people I thought might be a bit higher and vice versa.

[TheTerribleWilliamson]

Great thread.

 

Often we see fighters get flak for not finishing fights, mostly by those who have limited knowledge of the fighters history and whose opinions are based solely on the fighters last one or two fights. And these people rarely have the mental horsepower to be able to take into consideration how the decision was won, if it was unanimous due to complete domination or a close split decision, etc. These kind of stats should be enough to shut up the uninformed haters but unfortunatly I doubt that will be the case.

[Bubba_Pilks]

I added the 2 loses in' date=' so it reconciles nicely now.[/quote']

 

Thanks !!!

[Yerbo]

Good info, thanks. BUT as you (or somebody else) said it may be better to show the % of wins that went to a decision rather than the % of fights. I mean, a guy could lose all his fights by knockout and his % under your criteria would be 0% making him seems like a guy who finishes fights if people don't know the fighter's record heh

[Din71]

Good info' date=' thanks. BUT as you (or somebody else) said it may be better to show the % of wins that went to a decision rather than the % of fights. I mean, a guy could lose all his fights by knockout and his % under your criteria would be 0% making him seems like a guy who finishes fights if people don't know the fighter's record heh [/quote']

 

Yeah I did think about that, and you are right. Just because someone finishes a lot of fights doesn't mean they won them!

 

ie, Rogers has never gone to a decision, but he hasn't won all his fights either. I thought about posting just decisions occuring during a win, but I think these stats more accurately represent "times to a decision".

 

If I do this again, I may do the stats for both and put in their records as well.

 

- Times to decisions column

and a

- Wins by decision column

 

A lot of these guys have a reasonable sample of fights so I would expect the percentage going to decision wouldn't change to much.

[jng1]

Good info' date=' thanks. BUT as you (or somebody else) said it may be better to show the % of wins that went to a decision rather than the % of fights. I mean, a guy could lose all his fights by knockout and his % under your criteria would be 0% making him seems like a guy who finishes fights if people don't know the fighter's record heh [/quote']

 

i said that.