A tribute to GSP... Cheating.

[JP24]

I just saw this, and I couldn't believe it! There's so much evidence in this video. I knew GSP cheated at one point, but I didn't know how bad it was.

 

I'm sure this kinda stuff has been posted, but I'd like to express my hate of GSP to everyone here:

(mod edit)

I'm thinking that a St-Pierre vs. Penn 3 would look a whole lot different than this fight.

[Mmax]

You only just saw this?

[JP24]

You only just saw this?

 

Yeah, I haven't seen the part where Dana White was all pissed at him before.

[UFCCagerattler]

yawn.

 

If you can get beat by vaseline you need to find a new job.

 

nuff said.

[0verrated]

Bj is a little cry baby making excuses! Thats why Bj is hated! Bj makes the UFC look so bad! Poor ****ing loser!

 

I agree if they fight a 3rd time the fight will be much different. Bj's career will be over.

[Forest_Warrior]

Bj is a little cry baby making excuses! Thats why Bj is hated! Bj makes the UFC look so bad! Poor ****ing loser!

 

I agree if they fight a 3rd time the fight will be much different. Bj's career will be over.

 

hahaha, thats great. agreed 100%

[horrorfan663]

I just saw this' date=' and I couldn't believe it! There's so much evidence in this video. I knew GSP cheated at one point, but I didn't know how bad it was.

 

I'm sure this kinda stuff has been posted, but I'd like to express my hate of GSP to everyone here:

(mod edit)

I'm thinking that a St-Pierre vs. Penn 3 would look a whole lot different than this fight.[/quote']

 

Dude you were just told by everyone, Go hate GSP in a Strikeforce Forum like the rest of the ******

[JP24]

Buddy, Dana White owns the UFC, and he was just as pissed (probably more pissed) than I am about it... Dana owns UFC, not Strikeforce.

[UFCCagerattler]

The guy uses grease?

 

Wear a gi.

 

Problem solved.

 

Now shut up and fight.

[T_A_P_O_U_T_1]

GSP's record - 19-2

BJ's record - 15-5-1

Enough said

[gtp]

Get over it. So he got a chick to kiss him. Who cares?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZBwHgdbwt0

[TheHorror]

GSP's record - 19-2

BJ's record - 15-5-1

Enough said

 

2 losses to GSP, 1 to Pulver, 1 to Hughes, and 1 to Machida. At least he lost to the best.

 

But GSP would definately destroy Penn. the only round he could've been greased up in is the second. The athletic comission applies the vaseline for the first round, so the trainers didn't even touch vaseline. the 2nd round maybe, but that was when BJ actually was still putting up a fight. If you notice, for the rest of the figfht his shoulders are being wiped off before the start of every round. The only time he had any vaseline on his body was RD 2. Get over it. Get off BJ's junk, and accept the truth. GSP>Penn

[JP24]

BJ is chiller than he was... His skills increased horrifyingly, so now maybe against GSP, he would win... I bet he would.

[0verrated]

GSP's record - 19-2

BJ's record - 15-5-1

Enough said

Bj has the worst record of all the UFC Champs. He is overrated.

[bobilator]

BJ is chiller than he was... His skills increased horrifyingly' date=' so now maybe against GSP, he would win... I bet he would.[/quote']

 

Yeah ur right now he beter now he learn respect and humility . This kind of domination after saying all that trash talk and make a fool of him in one of the biggest PPV ever teach him some stuff.

[0verrated]

BJ is chiller than he was... His skills increased horrifyingly' date=' so now maybe against GSP, he would win... I bet he would.[/quote']

 

I will bet you. GSP will kill BJ ...again! It will be an even more violent beatdown than the last.

[0verrated]

Yeah ur right now he beter now he learn respect and humility . This kind of domination after saying all that trash talk and make a fool of him in one of the biggest PPV ever teach him some stuff.

 

Listen you Hawaiian Bj fanboy! Stop pretending to be french Canadian! You don't even sound like one! Its like your trying too hard. I am from Montreal, and you are NOT!

[bobby09]

you can blame vasoline all you want.. fact is gsp would have won either way.. penn could hardly breathe after 3 rounds haha.. penn will never beat gsp just for the simple fact his conditioning is nothing compared to gsp's. gsp will just take penn down every time at will and wear him out like he did the last time. gsp wins every time.. plain and simple

[mtl]

All I have to say, if BJ wants GSP for a third time, let him jump up in weight, and get in line. At least beat two or three of the top contenders (Fitch, Alves, Kos, Daley*). But as for getting his fans to log into forums and complain and complain until another free title shot comes.. lame.... Stop the complaining already. For the record, I already enjoyed his fighting, I hated his personality(from what I see on tv), but he seems to realize it was holding him back and is acting much more professional.

 

I saw the Tuff season when he coached for the first time and saw more classic Bj.

 

"Everybody who wants to be on my team raise your hand."

dana: "Bj we can't do that"

"why not?? Just do it? why not? cmon!!"

 

I guess he's just used to getting his way.

 

*Just cause of the punching power. I would actually like to see Daley and Bj stand and swing. Bj's crazy boxing too Daley's seemingly freight train power.

[bobilator]

Listen you Hawaiian Bj fanboy! Stop pretending to be french Canadian! You don't even sound like one! Its likes your trying too hard. I am from Montreal' date=' and you are NOT![/quote']

 

Lol no im not a Hawaiian BJ Nutt huger im just a realist guys who see reality . BJ respect other fighter now that a Fact , but he still loose in a humiliation way to GSP .

I realy hate the forum of BJ web site they say racist stuff about canadian and keep saying GSP is a cheater .......

 

GSP is by far a beter Martial Artist and Person then BJ .

[G__row]

Bj has the worst record of all the UFC Champs. He is overrated.

 

So Brocks record is better? LMAO

Overrated. Please.

[guti]

GSP's record - 19-2

BJ's record - 15-5-1

Enough said

 

GSP only fights at 170

 

BJ Penn has fought in 3 different weightclasses

 

Enough said !

 

 

actually not enough said .. Furthermore

 

BJ only loss once in his division to a decision

 

GSP lost twice in his division and his two lost came from a submission and a KO

 

so yea ..... enough said for now

[RUSHogun]

2 losses to GSP' date=' 1 to Pulver, 1 to Hughes, and 1 to Machida. At least he lost to the best.

 

But GSP would definately destroy Penn. the only round he could've been greased up in is the second. The athletic comission applies the vaseline for the first round, so the trainers didn't even touch vaseline. the 2nd round maybe, but that was when BJ actually was still putting up a fight. If you notice, for the rest of the figfht his shoulders are being wiped off before the start of every round. The only time he had any vaseline on his body was RD 2. Get over it. Get off BJ's junk, and accept the truth. GSP>Penn[/quote']

 

You forgot he also lost to GSP...twice, who you are correct about being the best. also, you consider Pulver the best? bj got dominated by hughes right before GSP ko'd hughes, and machida was only 5 fights into his career when he beat bj. you are insane if you think bj can beat gsp, and how did that grease help GSP at all?? let it be known that bj has never stopped a fight with a triangle, all he does are rear naked chokes.

[RUSHogun]

GSP only fights at 170

 

BJ Penn has fought in 3 different weightclasses

 

Enough said !

 

 

actually not enough said .. Furthermore

 

BJ only loss once in his division to a decision

 

GSP lost twice in his division and his two lost came from a submission and a KO

 

so yea ..... enough said for now

 

 

you are so right. hes fought in 3 different weight classes...he got fat and fought at 205 and lost, and he is 1-3 at welterweight. good job BJ, props for those stats.

[G__row]

You forgot he also lost to GSP...twice' date=' who you are correct about being the best. also, you consider Pulver the best? bj got dominated by hughes right before GSP ko'd hughes, and machida was only 5 fights into his career when he beat bj. you are insane if you think bj can beat gsp, and how did that grease help GSP at all?? let it be known that bj has never stopped a fight with a triangle, all he does are rear naked chokes.[/quote']

 

He clearly stated that GSP beat him twice. Read it again.

Hughes dominated Penn? I must have missed that one. lmao

I seem to remember the opposite actually. Till Penn separated his rib at the end of round 2. Penn was having his way with Hughes.

Machida is still Machida. And he is a lot bigger then Penn.

Not to mention that Machida KO'd Franklin in his third fight. Rich was undefeated at the time. Pretty weak argument you made there.

[G__row]

Oh, and Anderson would own GSP.

[0verrated]

Lol no im not a Hawaiian BJ Nutt huger im just a realist guys who see reality . BJ respect other fighter now that a Fact ' date=' but he still loose in a humiliation way to GSP .

I realy hate the forum of BJ web site they say racist stuff about canadian and keep saying GSP is a cheater .......

 

GSP is by far a beter Martial Artist and Person then BJ .[/quote']

lose the fake **** french Canadian front dude.

[0verrated]

Oh' date=' and Anderson would own GSP.[/quote']

 

You might be right. I do think the fight will be much more competitive that most people think.

[m_a_b]

Listen you Hawaiian Bj fanboy! Stop pretending to be french Canadian! You don't even sound like one! Its like your trying too hard. I am from Montreal' date=' and you are NOT![/quote']

 

alright hawaiian hater that loves gsp and probally dreams about him 24/7,i've been reading all your post some of it it not legit or doesnt concern about the topics and whenever comes to gsp fight with bj you attack with alot of anger and say how bad his performance is and etc because of bj greasing comment,so please loosen up and not hate sooo much on bj btw yes im from hawaii and dont say like to all the people you say im a **** sorry im not gay i love chicks and not dudes but you can say im a big fan bj for lw,and big fan for gsp ww.

[m_a_b]

You might be right. I do think the fight will be much more competitive that most people think.

 

i know for sure anderson wont go for ud

[G__row]

You might be right. I do think the fight will be much more competitive that most people think.

 

I do not think it would. My whole point is that if GSP moves up in weight to fight, he will have more L's on his record. Kinda like Penn.

[0verrated]

alright hawaiian hater that loves gsp and probally dreams about him 24/7' date='i've been reading all your post some of it it not legit or doesnt concern about the topics and whenever comes to gsp fight with bj you attack with alot of anger and say how bad his performance is and etc because of bj greasing comment,so please loosen up and not hate sooo much on bj btw yes im from hawaii and dont say like to all the people you say im a **** sorry im not gay i love chicks and not dudes but you can say im a big fan bj for lw,and big fan for gsp ww.[/quote']

 

I don't hate Bj. I just don't like the excuses. Man up...win like a man, lose like one. Instead of making excuses for the lose, ask yourself what you did wrong and how you can improve.

 

In fact, I love Hawaii, Beautiful place! You from the big island?

[guti]

you are so right. hes fought in 3 different weight classes...he got fat and fought at 205 and lost' date=' and he is 1-3 at welterweight. good job BJ, props for those stats.[/quote']

 

pros to him

 

I cant really say the samething for gsp who only fights at 170 and does not have the guts to move up in weightclass ... If bj stayed at LH he have only lost once to a decision..While gsp already lost twice and both times he got finished

 

Furthermore BJ Penn have been the champion in two weight classes...

 

Have gsp been the champion in two weightclasses??? NO

How many times have GSP defended his welterweight belt?? 3 times ! I GUESS HE HOLDS THE RECORD RIGHT?? ..

[0verrated]

I do not think it would. My whole point is that if GSP moves up in weight to fight' date=' he will have more L's on his record. Kinda like Penn.[/quote']

 

I disagree. The 2 MW's I see giving him a tuff time are Anderson and Marquardt. He will dominate at 185.

[m_a_b]

I don't hate Bj. I just don't like the excuses. Man up...win like a man' date=' lose like one. Instead of making excuses for the lose, ask yourself what you did wrong and how you can improve.

 

In fact, I love Hawaii, Beautiful place! You from the big island?[/quote']

 

nope maui,big island is boring and nothiing to do,lol but i believe what you saying and everybody else bj belong lw and never dominate ww since theres to much better top contender today compare when bj first came out to the ufc

[RUSHogun]

He clearly stated that GSP beat him twice. Read it again.

Hughes dominated Penn? I must have missed that one. lmao

I seem to remember the opposite actually. Till Penn separated his rib at the end of round 2. Penn was having his way with Hughes.

Machida is still Machida. And he is a lot bigger then Penn.

Not to mention that Machida KO'd Franklin in his third fight. Rich was undefeated at the time. Pretty weak argument you made there.

 

 

yeah you obviously missed the one where hughes put BJ in a crucifix and gave him a concussion and sent him to lightweight. are you saying that the machida 7 years ago is the same as machida today? I know hes a lot bigger than BJ but am I supposed to give him credit for moving up in weight and losing??? my point is that why is this guy hyping bj's losses by saying he lost to the best, yet says that bj can beat gsp even though hes already lost to him twice. Its idiotic.

[0verrated]

nope maui' date='big island is boring and nothiing to do,lol but i believe what you saying and everybody else bj belong lw and never dominate ww since theres to much better top contender today compare when bj first came out to the ufc[/quote']

 

You a right. Bj is the best LW in the world. He is just not big enough for WW. They are monsters at WW now. The division is not what it was 3 years ago, its stacked. Maui sure sounds nice this time of year. Its cold in Toronto.

[guti]

I disagree. The 2 MW's I see giving him a tuff time are Anderson and Marquardt. He will dominate at 185.

 

Marquart

Belford

Henderson (if he was there)

Anderson silva

wanderlei silva

 

And big maybes

 

Sonnen ( great wrestlers)

Alan belcher ( another great wrestler)

Okami

Maia

 

GSP would not have the advantage he has in middleweight , then again , he will surely have more competition than in the welterweight....

 

True is gsp have been fighting small fighters , most of the fighters in the middleweight can be 205s easily , while most of the fighters gsp have fought can not even make middleweight

 

Serra - should be a lightweight

Bj Penn - lightweight

Jkos - too small to move up

sherk - too small

frank trigg - too small

thiago alves - too short , even shorter than gsp

jon fitch - probably the only guy who can jump to middleweight and he will still be small for middleweight compare to the top guys

[mtl]

I feel dirty for even posting in here.. shame on me.. I was lured in...

[Crashin120]

I just saw this' date=' and I couldn't believe it! There's so much evidence in this video. I knew GSP cheated at one point, but I didn't know how bad it was.

 

I'm sure this kinda stuff has been posted, but I'd like to express my hate of GSP to everyone here:

(mod edit)

I'm thinking that a St-Pierre vs. Penn 3 would look a whole lot different than this fight.[/quote']

 

LIKE seriously did you want a bib to go with your sucky, BJ penn has been BEAT down 2 times now , lmao WHAT WAS THE EXCUSE the first fight FOR LOSING , build a bridge and GET OVER IT. I've never seen so many wanna be fans crying over spilt milk, too funny, here's a mcdonalds toy for your happy meal, and the only thing differnt about a 3rd matchup of this , would be the time zone, BJ would be AGAIN getting the towel thrown in, being a winded little fat man saying " to the death , to the death" , and THEN fighting his way to the operating room to reduce the swelling in his brain. Deal with it, he lost TWICE, not once, TWICE, and GOT beat like a red headed step child, it was almost TOO FUNNY watching Bj's face bounce off the mat, his little eyes closed as the elbows rained down , and then the defeated look as his brother gave the signal that " HE GIVES UP' LOL too bad the "haters" wont take a cue from that. On a side note, that Sonnen character, talking HUGE smack saying if he needed too he'd beat up GSP , to get to the ring to fight Marquart, and then whoop Rashad on his way to his after party lmao hahahaha I CANT wait to watch Nate knock this arrogant idiot into the dirt and i hope he doesnt just knock him out, i hope he punishes him , I so want to see Sonnen's fat mouth shut for good.. talking crap like that gets you KTFO lmao , just ask bisping.

[Juzie]

Marquart

Belford

Henderson (if he was there)

Anderson silva

wanderlei silva

 

And big maybes

 

Sonnen ( great wrestlers)

Alan belcher ( another great wrestler)

Okami

Maia

 

GSP would not have the advantage he has in middleweight ' date=' then again , he will surely have more competition than in the welterweight....

 

True is gsp have been fighting small fighters , most of the fighters in the middleweight can be 205s easily , while most of the fighters gsp have fought can not even make middleweight

 

Serra - should be a lightweight

Bj Penn - lightweight

Jkos - too small to move up

sherk - too small

frank trigg - too small

thiago alves - too short , even shorter than gsp

jon fitch - probably the only guy who can jump to middleweight and he will still be small for middleweight compare to the top guys[/quote']

Okami is more than a maybe. You also forgot to add JDS, since BJ fought Machida. My vote goes for round 1 KO for JDS.

[G__row]

yeah you obviously missed the one where hughes put BJ in a crucifix and gave him a concussion and sent him to lightweight. are you saying that the machida 7 years ago is the same as machida today? I know hes a lot bigger than BJ but am I supposed to give him credit for moving up in weight and losing??? my point is that why is this guy hyping bj's losses by saying he lost to the best' date=' yet says that bj can beat gsp even though hes already lost to him twice. Its idiotic.[/quote']

 

Yeah, I saw the crucifix, and two rounds of Penn dominating Hughes, and, like I said, separating a rib at the end of round 2.

Machida KO'd franklin before he ever fought Penn, so yeah, he was a bad **** back then too.

And, I think the first Penn GSP fight was almost a draw. I think I would have given it to BJ. The second, Penn just was not himself. He took a beating, for sure. I do not know what would happen if they fought again.

[m_a_b]

Marquart

Belford

Henderson (if he was there)

Anderson silva

wanderlei silva

 

And big maybes

 

Sonnen ( great wrestlers)

Alan belcher ( another great wrestler)

Okami

Maia

 

GSP would not have the advantage he has in middleweight ' date=' then again , he will surely have more competition than in the welterweight....

 

True is gsp have been fighting small fighters , most of the fighters in the middleweight can be 205s easily , while most of the fighters gsp have fought can not even make middleweight

 

Serra - should be a lightweight

Bj Penn - lightweight

Jkos - too small to move up

sherk - too small

frank trigg - too small

thiago alves - too short , even shorter than gsp

jon fitch - probably the only guy who can jump to middleweight and he will still be small for middleweight compare to the top guys[/quote']

 

thiago alves 5'9 and gsp 5'10 so i dont see alves being too short.

[guti]

thiago alves 5'9 and gsp 5'10 so i dont see alves being too short.

 

too short to be a middleweight .. Where most of the competition is above 6 ft tall...

[321Crazy]

I would like to see Penn vs GSP 3... maybe GSP could drop to 155, but doubtful, haha.

 

Regardless of what the outcome was or would have been without the Vasaline, it was messed up that he and his cornermen felt the need to use it illegaly.

 

Anderson would own GSP, and GSP would "cry" also if everytime he tried to takedown Silva he couldn't because Silva was lubed up with Vasaline.

 

This being said, I think GSP would still come out with the win if he fought Penn again, but it wouldn't be as dominating.

 

I would also like to see GSP vs Machida maybe down the road at 185. I think that would be a good matchup.

[RUSHogun]

pros to him

 

I cant really say the samething for gsp who only fights at 170 and does not have the guts to move up in weightclass ... If bj stayed at LH he have only lost once to a decision..While gsp already lost twice and both times he got finished

 

Furthermore BJ Penn have been the champion in two weight classes...

 

Have gsp been the champion in two weightclasses??? NO

How many times have GSP defended his welterweight belt?? 3 times ! I GUESS HE HOLDS THE RECORD RIGHT?? ..

 

BJ has a title at ww because the one fight he won happened to be a title fight, then bj NEVER defended it (that actually ties the record for least number of title defenses) because he left the ufc for two years. he then lost his next three fights at ww and moved to lw because he couldnt hang with GSP. and gsp is smart enough to know he cant move up to lhw like bj's ego told him he could. is bj the best lw in the world? yes, but that doesnt mean he can beat gsp. gsp is the best ww in perhaps the world's deepest division.

[guti]

and i m not even saying gsp will get murdered in the middleweight , all i m saying is gsp will have more L in his record just like bj penn has for moving up weightclasses

 

I still think gsp will be top 5 in the middleweight but i dont think he will be as dominant .. I still havent seen gsp fight a much bigger guy .. He has been the bigger guy in all his fights except maybe for alves , but alves is not really a tall guys he is actually shorter than gsp , he just have a big frame..

 

I would love to see gsp against someone like belchar or even sonnen to see how his wrestling works against bigger guys (bigger frame and height)

[Kristufa]

I think pretty much everyone has seen that.

Have you noticed that he was accused after BJ came out to say it?

[TheFergMan]

yawn.

 

If you can get beat by vaseline you need to find a new job.

 

nuff said.

 

Have you ever done Jiu Jitsu bro? You can't grab someone that is covered in vaseline. GSP's corner greased him up and thats when he was able to handle BJ on the ground. I dont know why all the big time GSP fans have such a hard time accepting it. BJ will win the 3rd fight

[guti]

BJ has a title at ww because the one fight he won happened to be a title fight' date=' then bj NEVER defended it (that actually ties the record for least number of title defenses) because he left the ufc for two years. he then lost his next three fights at ww and moved to lw because he couldnt hang with GSP. and gsp is smart enough to know he cant move up to lhw like bj's ego told him he could. is bj the best lw in the world? yes, but that doesnt mean he can beat gsp. gsp is the best ww in perhaps the world's deepest division.[/quote']

 

welterweight is by no means the deepest division in the ufc... Thats the reaosn gsp is fighting someone like hardy because there is basicly no contenders there

 

KOS , Fitch , alves and none of them is really a headliner for any ufc events

 

Let me ask you something .. How many welterweights aside from gsp and hughes can actually headline a ufc event ... True is noone , if you dont believe it go check the past events...

 

Middleweight and LHW and even heavyweight have better fighters