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Who Is the Greatest MW of all time

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Alpha_Omega

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major fail. your saying that hendo is the better all time mw even though silva' date=' who IS the greatest MW of all time beat him? haha, your funny.[/quote']

 

Yes. In the same way Wanderlei is the best LHW of all time even though Chuck beat him. Shall we go through each fighter's credentials and opponents?

 

Silva's best 3 opponents:

Dan Henderson (oddly enough his best opponent is Hendo)

Rich Franklin (UFC MW champion)

Nate Marquardt (7 time king of pancrase)

 

Hendo's best 3 opponents

Nogueira (#2 HW of all time, former Rings King Of Kings tourny winner, Pride & UFC HW champion)

Wanderlei Silva (#1 LHW of all time, former IVC and Pride 205lbs champion and Pride 2003 GP winner)

Anderson Silva

 

 

Silva's accomplishments:

UFC MW champion

Cage Rage MW champion

Shooto MW champion

 

Henderson's accomplishments:

Only Man to hold 2 belts at the same time

Pride MW champion

Pride WW champion

UFC 17 tourny winner

Rings King Of Kings open weight tourny winner

Pride WW tourny winner

 

You know that thing Anderson strives to do before retiring? Fighting at HW? Hendo did it for years. All you kids remember if the past 2 years. I'm sorry, but I remember when Hendo was wrecking shop and Anderson was getting dominated in Pride by a guy with a record of 9-13 and I don't forget about that when it comes time to discuss the greatest of all time.

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Why do people bother to ask this question (sigh)

 

Everyone knows that the greatest Pound For Pound MW fighter of all time, better than any 185 pounder in the history of Earth is Anderson Silva alright?

 

Jeeze enough we all know and everyone who say differently are those people who purposely say the opposite to seem like they aren't conforming when really they are!

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Yes. In the same way Wanderlei is the best LHW of all time even though Chuck beat him. Shall we go through each fighter's credentials and opponents?

 

Silva's best 3 opponents:

Dan Henderson (oddly enough his best opponent is Hendo)

Rich Franklin (UFC MW champion)

Nate Marquardt (7 time king of pancrase)

 

Hendo's best 3 opponents

Nogueira (#2 HW of all time' date=' former Rings King Of Kings tourny winner, Pride & UFC HW champion)

[b']Wanderlei Silva[/b] (#1 LHW of all time, former IVC and Pride 205lbs champion and Pride 2003 GP winner)

Anderson Silva

 

 

Silva's accomplishments:

UFC MW champion

Cage Rage MW champion

Shooto MW champion

 

Henderson's accomplishments:

Only Man to hold 2 belts at the same time

Pride MW champion

Pride WW champion

UFC 17 tourny winner

Rings King Of Kings open weight tourny winner

Pride WW tourny winner

 

You know that thing Anderson strives to do before retiring? Fighting at HW? Hendo did it for years. All you kids remember if the past 2 years. I'm sorry, but I remember when Hendo was wrecking shop and Anderson was getting dominated in Pride by a guy with a record of 9-13 and I don't forget about that when it comes time to discuss the greatest of all time.

 

i love Hendo, and hate Silva, but you should be ashamed you cant see Anderson is the superior fighter

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i love Hendo' date=' and hate Silva, but you should be ashamed you cant see Anderson is the superior fighter[/quote']

 

Is he a superior fighter now? Yes. This thread is called of all time. You're clown shoes if you think Silva has had a more illustrious career and fought tougher opponents than Dan Henderson.

 

The thought of anyone thinking that is laughable.

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That's how. The UFC is not MMA. This is of all time.

 

What so just because all of his best wins are in the UFC he cant be considered the best MW of all time. He beat Dan Henderson aswell so technically that makes him the best of the two. If they fought again Silva would beat Hendo again.

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^ You're a notorious Hendo hater. You're cool, but you have no say in this. Your hate for Hendo blinds you.

 

What so just because all of his best wins are in the UFC he cant be considered the best MW of all time. He beat Dan Henderson aswell so technically that makes him the best of the two. If they fought again Silva would beat Hendo again.

 

Silva is not as accomplished nor has he fought NEARLY as good of competition as Hendo.

 

And no, not just cause his accomplishments are in the UFC. But because you people have short term memories. You don't remember Henderson dominating Pride. All that goes out the window when the latest bandwagon rolls into town.

 

4 years ago the thought of this conversation would have been laughed at. Where was all this talk in 2006? In 2006 people would be looking at this the opposite way. Silva is in his prime, Hendo is fading out of his. But as far as careers, Hendo is the best MW of all time. When you look back at careers you take into account accomplishments, opponents and competition. It's not all "this guy beat him so he's better".

 

Is Valentijn Overeem better than Randy Couture? Is Ricardo Arona better than Wanderlei Silva? Is Jens Pulver better than BJ Penn?

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Ken shamrock is ****, why is he even up there. He fought people who were good in the 90's so mostly fat old japanese and american wrestlers. Then he gets beat by gracie, tito, franklin....TITO, he got beat by TITO, TITO was neevr good, people only think hes good because he was part of the first generation of these ****ty ufc fighters. Its like winning the special olympics....false pride

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^ You're a notorious Hendo hater. You're cool' date=' but you have no say in this. Your hate for Hendo blinds you. [/b']

 

 

 

Silva is not as accomplished nor has he fought NEARLY as good of competition as Hendo.

 

And no, not just cause his accomplishments are in the UFC. But because you people have short term memories. You don't remember Henderson dominating Pride. All that goes out the window when the latest bandwagon rolls into town.

 

4 years ago the thought of this conversation would have been laughed at. Where was all this talk in 2006? In 2006 people would be looking at this the opposite way. Silva is in his prime, Hendo is fading out of his. But as far as careers, Hendo is the best MW of all time. When you look back at careers you take into account accomplishments, opponents and competition. It's not all "this guy beat him so he's better".

 

Is Valentijn Overeem better than Randy Couture? Is Ricardo Arona better than Wanderlei Silva? Is Jens Pulver better than BJ Penn?

 

I dont know if your saying that I hate Hendo or if you are talking about someone else but I am a fan of Dan Henderson but its obvious that Silva is better. I'm not just saying this because the prime Silva beat the prime Hendo but that is one of the reasons. You say that people wouldnt even discuss A.Silva being the best in 2006 which is pointless because he had only just arrived in the UFC then and he hadnt beaten all of the fighters that he has today so I dont know what your point is. And its not just who Silva beats, its how he beats them. He went up to LHW and destroyed Forrest Griffin who had recently beaten Shogun and Rampage. Alot of Hendersons wins in Pride were against japanese no-hopers and he also got beat alot of times in Pride.

The fact is if prime Silva fought prime Henderson 100 times Silva would win a huge mojority of those fights.

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I dont know if your saying that I hate Hendo or if you are talking about someone else but I am a fan of Dan Henderson but its obvious that Silva is better. I'm not just saying this because the prime Silva beat the prime Hendo but that is one of the reasons. You say that people wouldnt even discuss A.Silva being the best in 2006 which is pointless because he had only just arrived in the UFC then and he hadnt beaten all of the fighters that he has today so I dont know what your point is. And its not just who Silva beats' date=' its how he beats them. He went up to LHW and destroyed Forrest Griffin who had recently beaten Shogun and Rampage. Alot of Hendersons wins in Pride were against japanese no-hopers and he also got beat alot of times in Pride.

The fact is if prime Silva fought prime Henderson 100 times Silva would win a huge mojority of those fights.[/quote']

 

I was talking to someone else. And my point in saying noone would talk about it in 2006 is that you guys aren't taking Hendo's prime into account. The way most fans think of it now, "anderson no contest" people thought of it back then. "Hendo, no contest". Lest we all forget Andy losing to a guy with a 9-13 record.

 

Against no hopers? LOL! WHAT!? Misaki a Japanese no hoper? Arona, Rodrigo twice, Rogerio, Ninja, Bustamante, Wanderlei Silva, Vitor Belfort, Babalu Sobral and Carlos Newton are no hopers? Jesus. That is absurd. Silva LOST to "Japanese no hopers" in Pride, Hendo didn't. Something that never comes up when discussing this.

 

Hendo is fading out of his prime. If you think UFC 82 - or whatever it was - was his prime, you haven't watched him in Pride. Period.

 

Hendo is more accomplished and has fought more competition. Anderson may be more skilled, but to say he's as accomplished is laughable.

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I was talking to someone else. And my point in saying noone would talk about it in 2006 is that you guys aren't taking Hendo's prime into account. The way most fans think of it now' date=' "anderson no contest" people thought of it back then. "Hendo, no contest". Lest we all forget Andy losing to a guy with a 9-13 record.

 

Against no hopers? LOL! WHAT!? Misaki a Japanese no hoper? Arona, Rodrigo twice, Rogerio, Ninja, Bustamante, Wanderlei Silva, Vitor Belfort, Babalu Sobral and Carlos Newton are no hopers? Jesus. That is absurd. Silva LOST to "Japanese no hopers" in Pride, Hendo didn't. Something that never comes up when discussing this.

 

Hendo is fading out of his prime. If you think UFC 82 - or whatever it was - was his prime, you haven't watched him in Pride. Period.

 

Hendo is more accomplished and has fought more competition. Anderson m ay be more skilled, but to say he's as accomplished is laughable.[/quote']

 

I know that Henderson has faced some good fighters in Pride but he lost alot of those matches. He lost to Misaki, Arona, W.Silva and both Nogueiras. With all those losses I dont think you can call his Pride reign as dominant as Silva UFC reign and I never even said that Silva was the more accomplished. I just said hes better and he proved that when they fought. Some of Hendos wins in Pride were to fighters like Kondo, Chonan, Oyama, Nakamura and other average fighters. Silva was nowhere near as good as he is now when he was in Pride. We all know that he would destroy any fighter that has ever beat him if they had a rematch. One of his losses was a split decision in his debut and the rest were also when he was inexperienced and young besept for the Okami loss which was a joke. Okami took the easy way out to get a DQ win when he could of continued. Silva has been facing top opponents in the UFC and destroying them all. Henderson is a legend but Silva is simply better. He would destroy Hendo any day of the week.

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