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These are the three fighters that have come in and made the UFC heavyweight divsion exciting. I think that all three of them could become UFC heavyweight champion one day. I think that Dos Santos is the best of the three. He has great stand-up and great BJJ but its just that we don't see it because he likes to stand. He trains with the Nogueiras so that is proof that his BJJ is good. Who do you think is the best of the three and which one do you think will do the most in the sport?

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Hmm, tough to say. I haven't seen Carwin's ground game so he's out for now. Dos Santos is probably the best right now but Cain's fight with Nog will give us a good heads up on how far he has come. While I don't expect him to win if he does manage to get past Nog we may have a Cain/Santos show down.

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Carwin shouldn't even be compared with Velasquez and Dos Santos.

 

I don't agree with this.

 

Carwin has had 3 fights in the UFC Against:

 

Christian Wellisch

Neil Wain

Gabriel Gonzaga

 

All TKO or KO in the first round

 

JDS has had 4 fights in the UFC Against:

 

Fabricio Werdum

Stefan Struve

Mirko Cro Cop

Gilbert Yvel

 

All TKO or KO in the first round except for a 3rd round TKO of Cro Cop

 

Cain slate is not quite as impressive but he is also undefeated.

 

I think JDS has faced arguably better competition in the UFC and that is why I chose him in this poll. Carwin on the other hand is undefeated with none of his fights making it past the first round. That's pretty dominant.

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I don't agree with this.

 

Carwin has had 3 fights in the UFC Against:

 

Christian Wellisch

Neil Wain

Gabriel Gonzaga

 

All TKO or KO in the first round

 

JDS has had 4 fights in the UFC Against:

 

Fabricio Werdum

Stefan Struve

Mirko Cro Cop

Gilbert Yvel

 

All TKO or KO in the first round except for a 3rd round TKO of Cro Cop

 

Cain slate is not quite as impressive but he is also undefeated.

 

I think JDS has faced arguably better competition in the UFC and that is why I chose him in this poll. Carwin on the other hand is undefeated with none of his fights making it past the first round. That's pretty dominant.

 

You make good points, but the reason you shouldn't compare them right now is because you should wait for his fight with Frank Mir, He could just be hype. His striking was very sloppy vs Gonzaga.

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You make good points' date=' but the reason you shouldn't compare them right now is because you should wait for his fight with Frank Mir, He could just be hype. His striking was very sloppy vs Gonzaga.[/quote']

 

Exactly. Plus GG was owning Carwin before getting KTFO.

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in my opinion JDS has been the most impressive, Carwin is a stud as well on feet and has a great wrestling back ground but we still need to see how is stamina is because he hasnt ever made it past the first round, valasquez in my opinion is legit but i would really like to see him fight somebody who also has a wrestling background like carwin becasue we seen him own ben rothwell who didnt have any takedown defense, and cheick kongo who is just a banger he also dosent have a takedown defense or any ground game and think about it valasquez was rocked by kongo then got a sloppy takedown, but like i said out of these three ide say JDS is the toughest at this point

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These are the three fighters that have come in and made the UFC heavyweight divsion exciting. I think that all three of them could become UFC heavyweight champion one day. I think that Dos Santos is the best of the three. He has great stand-up and great BJJ but its just that we don't see it because he likes to stand. He trains with the Nogueiras so that is proof that his BJJ is good. Who do you think is the best of the three and which one do you think will do the most in the sport?

 

that's not proof...he has a great group of BJJ guys to roll with, but he will have to prove his own level in the octagon...

 

you cannot just assume he is Nog #2 (or #3, i guess)...

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well im young but ive been watching ufc for a long time now, but IMO i think that Velasquez is going to come out with a win with Nog, and Carwin will lose to Mir, but JDS is the best of them 3 but Valasquez is right behind him and i mean right behind him

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well im young but ive been watching ufc for a long time now' date=' but IMO i think that Velasquez is going to come out with a win with Nog, and Carwin will lose to Mir, but JDS is the best of them 3 but Valasquez is right behind him and i mean right behind him[/quote']

 

accurate analysis imo ...

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I think Carwin might gas.

 

You'd think that was a pretty safe bet. Fit guy though, works real hard.

 

Carwin is a beast. Mir vs Carwin should stay on the feet

 

Velasquez lacks the killer knockout power but has plenty of weight to gain yet before he gets to 265. Weights weights and more weights

 

JDS would get taken down so we need to see him on his back

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Need to see more from all 3; obvious response I guess. So far it's close between JDS and Carwin for me relying heavily on potential I see in Carwin with JDS being the winner for me. Cain's going to have to crush Nog for me to consider him but I honestly don't see that happening. Rothwell Kongo and the rest of his past opponents are way behind Gonzaga and the others JDS and Carwin have fought.

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How is cain overrated? He's a great wrestler, has good stand up not a lot of power because he doesn't wanna give up dominant position for the extra power. If anything carwin is the most overrated of the 3 ok sure he wins fast but besides gonzaga who has his competition been? Doodoo that's who. Jds is a damn beast and is the best between the 3 and cain is close behind.

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