Silva doesn't want to fight Sonnen

[Xhojin]

http://www.fiveknuckles.com/mma-news/Anderson-Silvas-manager-thinks-Chael-Sonnen-needs-to-fight-Demian-Maia-first.html

 

There is the link.

 

Another person Silva and Soares doesn't think deserves to fight Silva.

 

sigh....

 

Do they think ANYONE deserves to fight Silva?

 

somehow I doubt it.

[The_Jack_Attack]

I can kinda see Ed Soares point, avenge his loss to Mia before he fights Silva. I think when Dana said the winner gets a title shot he was expecting Nate to win. But it is what it is, Sonnen won and therefor earned his shot.

[Xhojin]

idk man. idk..

 

I can't stand Sonnen.. but it's even more annoying to see how Diva-esque Silva has become.

[Alpha_Omega]

Sonnen's a weeniebop but Silva is a diva. He needs to stop acting like his first name is Joe and take whatever fight comes his way. Quit acting like everyone needs to jump through hoops to fight you.

 

GSP and BJ take on all comers no questions asked. Quit being a drama queen and fight somebody.

[kyokushin4life]

if i was silva i would jump at the fight, it would be an easy win for him. Sonnen is a good wrestler and a good top game but weak submission defense. Silva loves using the body triangle to controll his oponents in his guard limiting Sonnons abilty to posture or move and it makes it easier to get wrist control. Silva by triangle similar to the one he got against Lutter.

[KRYME]

I don't really see anything wrong with having him fight Maia again. But it is what it is. He won his fight.

 

-buy the ticket. take the ride.

[123bdog]

I'm getting a little sick of this "noone deserves to fight me" crap, but whatever he's still the man.

[Uwillsubmit]

its not gonna happen, after this fight with vitor anderson is permanently moving up to LHW whether he wins or loses.

[Remedx]

I can kinda see Ed Soares point' date=' avenge his loss to Mia before he fights Silva. I think when Dana said the winner gets a title shot he was expecting Nate to win. But it is what it is, Sonnen won and therefor earned his shot.[/quote']

 

hendo vs bisping ring any bells?

[Uwillsubmit]

hendo vs bisping ring any bells?

 

hendo was never promised a shot and nor should he have got it too, he lost 2 attempts in a row for a title not many people get 2 shots at a title in a row in 2 different weights especially after losing the first one

[Alpha_Omega]

hendo was never promised a shot and nor should he have got it too' date=' he lost 2 attempts in a row for a title not many people get 2 shots at a title in a row in 2 different weights especially after losing the first one[/quote']

 

He was unifying both belts he already had. Not the same thing.

 

All the title shots and immediate rematches Randy got handed to him and people are arguing Hendo shouldn't get another one after going on a 3 fight win streak?

 

If you're the #1 contender you're the #1 contender. Period.

[dumbkidsthesedays]

anderson and his crew have stated before that they want as many " superfights " and legend vs legend fights as possible.

 

I think he feels that Chael Sonnen isn't a big enough name to fight him, but the sonnen resume sure says he has earned his shot.

[Uwillsubmit]

He was unifying both belts he already had. Not the same thing.

 

All the title shots and immediate rematches Randy got handed to him and people are arguing Hendo shouldn't get another one after going on a 3 fight win streak?

 

If you're the #1 contender you're the #1 contender. Period.

 

thats true but 3 title fights in 6 ufc fights? na he had to earn it and if you look at his ufc record he really beat no-one to warrant another shot at that point

[Uwillsubmit]

He was unifying both belts he already had. Not the same thing.

 

All the title shots and immediate rematches Randy got handed to him and people are arguing Hendo shouldn't get another one after going on a 3 fight win streak?

 

If you're the #1 contender you're the #1 contender. Period.

 

and i dont agree with all the shots randy got aswell, i mean 15 of his first 19 ufc fights were for the title, and he hasnt put together a win strak of more then 3 wins since 2001

[Sick00]

I would love to see Anderson Silva challenged and there's no way that Sonnen has the skills to do it. Belfort on the other hand is an interesting match up which is what everyone should be talking about, not some one dimensional flavour of the month.

[Alpha_Omega]

thats true but 3 title fights in 6 ufc fights? na he had to earn it and if you look at his ufc record he really beat no-one to warrant another shot at that point

 

Bisping was considered a contender. Rich is a former MW champion. And argue the decision all you want, a win is a win when it comes to moving up the ladder. Palhares is underrated imo.

 

Rich is a tougher win than Maia or Gouveai. Belfort beats a guy Hendo beat and gets an immediate title shot? Granted he did it more convincingly but Henderson demolished Belfort.

 

3 fight win streak earns it in a lackluster division like 185lbs. Plus Hendo has the most legitimate chance of beating Silva even still.

[DoomPatrol]

Looks like Soares and Silva are picking their opponents again and making excuses.

 

What? Is that a dominant wrestler coming this way? Umm... hey! He has lost to somebody - go avenge that loss and then come back (and we?ll give you another task until you lose to somebody, who is easier to win - like Maia).

 

What is this - a greek myth? The "Gods" of MMA are sending heroes on stupid quests and refusing to give them what they want. Just get on with it and fight the best, not the most suitable opponent.

[Uwillsubmit]

Bisping was considered a contender. Rich is a former MW champion. And argue the decision all you want' date=' a win is a win when it comes to moving up the ladder. Palhares is underrated imo.

 

Rich is a tougher win than Maia or Gouveai. Belfort beats a guy Hendo beat and gets an immediate title shot? Granted he did it more convincingly but Henderson demolished Belfort.

 

3 fight win streak earns it in a lackluster division like 185lbs. Plus Hendo has the most legitimate chance of beating Silva even still.[/quote']

 

 

but he had his chance and lost imo he was atleast 2 wins away from another title shot

[Uwillsubmit]

Looks like Soares and Silva are picking their opponents again and making excuses.

 

What? Is that a dominant wrestler coming this way? Umm... hey! He has lost to somebody - go avenge that loss and then come back (and we?ll give you another task until you lose to somebody' date=' who is easier to win - like Maia).

 

What is this - a greek myth? The "Gods" of MMA are sending heroes on stupid quests and refusing to give them what they want. Just get on with it and fight the best, not the most suitable opponent.[/quote']

 

anderson has beat dominant wrestlers before

[Sick00]

Looks like Soares and Silva are picking their opponents again and making excuses.

 

What? Is that a dominant wrestler coming this way? Umm... hey! He has lost to somebody - go avenge that loss and then come back (and we?ll give you another task until you lose to somebody' date=' who is easier to win - like Maia).

 

What is this - a greek myth? The "Gods" of MMA are sending heroes on stupid quests and refusing to give them what they want. Just get on with it and fight the best, not the most suitable opponent.[/quote']

 

Anderson lost 1 round to a Hendo before rocking him and submitting him. Is Sonnen a better wrestler than Hendo? Coz he sure doesn't have the power of Hendo.

[Alpha_Omega]

but he had his chance and lost imo he was atleast 2 wins away from another title shot

 

Who else deserved the title shot? Marquardt? I like Nate a lot but his opponents were not as good. Hendo dominated Belfort like a child. Okami lost to Sonnen. Sonnen needed another big win to even be considered. Nobody made more sense in that lackluster division than Dan Henderson. Period.

 

Why no "Vitor lost to Hendo he should go redeem that loss" talk? Hendo deserved it. And when he fought Silva the first time he cut 15lbs or 20lbs in 1 week. His fault, yes. But he wouldn't make that mistake again and he would give Silva a MUCH better fight.

[DarkReflection]

Okay two things...

 

1. Silva knows he only has so many years/fights on top to MAKE HIS MONEY...these guys aren't payed top boxers purses...or basketballs players, baseball players...etc..

 

What does this mean? SUPERFIGHTS IS HOW YOU MAKE YOUR MONEY.

 

Silva gets PPV participation. What's going to make more money? Silva v GSP/Jackson/Evans/Couture/Rua?...or Silva v Sonnen?

 

Exactly. So Silva figures...if the UFC is going to MAKE him fight Sonnen...at least request for Sonnen to fight another guy..a guy who beat him so that he can..if he wins...raise his profile and hype the title fight a bit more...so that when they fight they pull bigger numbers.

 

2. Silva wants to go back to 205 and have another go up there. Because there's MORE MONEY fights up there.

 

THIS is why Silva acts like a "diva" he's being a business man and making his money while he can.

 

Silva is a good humble guy. I've got NO problems with him as a person. All this "diva" talk..and ****y BS...is people who are biased...or don't know what they are talking about.

 

Cheers

 

-DR

[Uwillsubmit]

Who else deserved the title shot? Marquardt? I like Nate a lot but his opponents were not as good. Hendo dominated Belfort like a child. Okami lost to Sonnen. Sonnen needed another big win to even be considered. Nobody made more sense in that lackluster division than Dan Henderson. Period.

 

Why no "Vitor lost to Hendo he should go redeem that loss" talk? Hendo deserved it. And when he fought Silva the first time he cut 15lbs or 20lbs in 1 week. His fault' date=' yes. But he wouldn't make that mistake again and he would give Silva a MUCH better fight.[/quote']

 

yes but hendo lost to anderson and lost convincingly, i dont think anyone wants to see a rematch with hendo at that stage and vitor dooesnt deserve it but his name alone means butts on seats and PPV $$$$$$ thats why vitor got it and not hendo or nate

[Alpha_Omega]

Okay two things...

 

1. Silva knows he only has so many years/fights on top to MAKE HIS MONEY...these guys aren't payed top boxers purses...or basketballs players' date=' baseball players...etc..

 

What does this mean? SUPERFIGHTS IS HOW YOU MAKE YOUR MONEY.

 

Silva gets PPV participation. What's going to make more money? Silva v GSP/Jackson/Evans/Couture/Rua?...or Silva v Sonnen?

 

Exactly. So Silva figures...if the UFC is going to MAKE him fight Sonnen...at least request for Sonnen to fight another guy..a guy who beat him so that he can..if he wins...raise his profile and hype the title fight a bit more...so that when they fight they pull bigger numbers.

 

2. Silva wants to go back to 205 and have another go up there. Because there's MORE MONEY fights up there.

 

THIS is why Silva acts like a "diva" he's being a business man and making his money while he can.

 

Silva is a good humble guy. I've got NO problems with him as a person. All this "diva" talk..and ****y BS...is people who are biased...or don't know what they are talking about.

 

Cheers

 

-DR[/quote']

 

Dude, Silva was my 3rd favorite fighter til he started all this Diva crap.

 

First Hendo and Nate didn't deserve it, then Vitor needed to redeem his loss against Hendo and win at 185lbs, then Maia needed to beat Nate , now Sonnen needs to be Maia, then if Maia wins he will probably have to beat Nate again, than Nate will have to beat Sonnen again if he beats Maia.

 

Anderson Silva is not Joe Silva. Do you hear Penn saying Edgar needs to go beat Maynard or that Florian needed to beat Sanchez? No. He's a fighter, not a match maker.

[Alpha_Omega]

yes but hendo lost to anderson and lost convincingly' date=' i dont think anyone wants to see a rematch with hendo at that stage and vitor dooesnt deserve it but his name alone means butts on seats and PPV $$$$$$ thats why vitor got it and not hendo or nate[/quote']

 

When you accept that putting people in seats is better than competition you are a little empty inside as a fan. My opinion.

 

Plenty of people want to see a rematch with Hendo and Silva. What are you talking about? This forum exploded when it was announced (albeit, by Hendo) and even more when he left the UFC.

 

You mean to tell me Vitor makes more money to the casual fan than the guy who spent 8 week son reality TV then KOd the guy the entire USA wanted to see get knocked out? That's just silly.

 

You sound like Anderson now. If Hendo and Vitor didn't deserve it, who did? Nate? The guy who lost even more convincingly to Silva than Hendo did to Silva or Vitor did to Hendo? Who deserved it?

[DarkReflection]

Dude' date=' Silva was my 3rd favorite fighter til he started all this Diva crap.

 

First Hendo and Nate didn't deserve it, then Vitor needed to redeem his loss against Hendo and win at 185lbs, then Maia needed to beat Nate , now Sonnen needs to be Maia, then if Maia wins he will probably have to beat Nate again, than Nate will have to beat Sonnen again if he beats Maia.

 

Anderson Silva is not Joe Silva. Do you hear Penn saying Edgar needs to go beat Maynard or that Florian needed to beat Sanchez? No. He's a fighter, not a match maker.[/quote']

 

Silva beat Hendo and Nate...as you can see until recently Silva was on track to rematch Nate. If Hendo was still in he probably would have fought him again too.

 

So lets see...2 Franklin...2 Hendo...2 Marquardt...yeah man..makes alot of sense..

 

Give me a break...HE BEAT BOTH OF THEM! Let them fight to see who really deserves the shot...and fight the winner. What part of that do you have a problem with? If he had only beat Hendo...or only beat Nate...then for sure..fight the guy you haven't yet beaten...but come on...given the circumstances they both had SOME claim to a title shot...to me it's only logic to have that eliminator bout...and Dan didn't want that...so...no go...

 

Vitor...I don't ever recall hearing about him having to avenge a loss coming from Soares or Silva...I think you are possibly getting forum banter confused with official statements. What I do recall was a statement saying that he hadn't fought at 185 in the UFC....his last fight was at 195...maybe he should fight a contender first at 185 and then get a title shot...again...I don't see much of a problem...it's just good business sense.

 

Maia was never told he'd get a title shot...his "having to beat Nate" may have resulted in a title shot...but that was just forum hype and banter..back when people though Maia was invincible...and apparently hadn't seen that Jason MacDonald fight.

 

As I said earlier..Silva needs to make his money while he can...if he wants Sonnen..to bring some more eyes to the table by having another decent profile fight..I really don't see a problem with it...why not have him avenge that loss to another up and comer..

 

I'd personally rather see Silva vacate and go to 205. But all this "diva" talk is just getting out of hand. He's made his mark...he fought challengers WITHOUT QUESTION..and got **** FOR IT....Cote..Leites..

 

Now he's speaking up...and you guys have a problem?

 

The man is the best in the world. He deserves to make the most out of his career.

 

Cheers

 

-DR

[Sick00]

With Anderson and his manager wanting to make these super fights, aren't they just giving the majority of the fans what they want. Silva is the best therefore he should be fighting the best. Chael Sonnen far from the best.

[PJSMAN]

Anderson needs to worry about Belfort first ....and he if happens to win...then he needs to shut up ......and fight whoever Dana and Lorenzo tell him to fight .....and learn some english like Chael said!

[NicoCeli]

anderson and his crew have stated before that they want as many " superfights " and legend vs legend fights as possible.

 

I think he feels that Chael Sonnen isn't a big enough name to fight him' date=' but the sonnen resume sure says he has earned his shot.[/quote']

 

That's arguable to say the least.

[DarkReflection]

I know I find it funny that people some people are arguing for Sonnen..over possibly..Evans or Jackson...or Rua.

 

Crazy. Silva isn't losing to the ignorant hick.

 

Cheers

 

-DR

[Kristufa]

I know I find it funny that people some people are arguing for Sonnen..over possibly..Evans or Jackson...or Rua.

 

Crazy. Silva isn't losing to the ignorant hick.

 

Cheers

 

-DR

I don't think Sonnen could make 205.

 

...

 

Well he could, but I doubt he would be any good at that weight.

[DarkReflection]

I don't think Sonnen could make 205.

 

...

 

Well he could' date=' but I doubt he would be any good at that weight.[/quote']

 

What? Who cares about Sonnen at 205? I think we have a communication issue somewhere. *chuckle*

 

Cheers

 

-DR

[Alpha_Omega]

Silva beat Hendo and Nate...as you can see until recently Silva was on track to rematch Nate. If Hendo was still in he probably would have fought him again too.

 

So lets see...2 Franklin...2 Hendo...2 Marquardt...yeah man..makes alot of sense..

 

Give me a break...HE BEAT BOTH OF THEM! Let them fight to see who really deserves the shot...and fight the winner. What part of that do you have a problem with? If he had only beat Hendo...or only beat Nate...then for sure..fight the guy you haven't yet beaten...but come on...given the circumstances they both had SOME claim to a title shot...to me it's only logic to have that eliminator bout...and Dan didn't want that...so...no go...

 

Vitor...I don't ever recall hearing about him having to avenge a loss coming from Soares or Silva...I think you are possibly getting forum banter confused with official statements. What I do recall was a statement saying that he hadn't fought at 185 in the UFC....his last fight was at 195...maybe he should fight a contender first at 185 and then get a title shot...again...I don't see much of a problem...it's just good business sense.

 

Maia was never told he'd get a title shot...his "having to beat Nate" may have resulted in a title shot...but that was just forum hype and banter..back when people though Maia was invincible...and apparently hadn't seen that Jason MacDonald fight.

 

As I said earlier..Silva needs to make his money while he can...if he wants Sonnen..to bring some more eyes to the table by having another decent profile fight..I really don't see a problem with it...why not have him avenge that loss to another up and comer..

 

I'd personally rather see Silva vacate and go to 205. But all this "diva" talk is just getting out of hand. He's made his mark...he fought challenges WITHOUT QUESTION..and got **** FOR IT....Cote..Leites..

 

Now he's speaking up...and you guys have a problem?

 

The man is the best in the world. He deserves to make the most out of his career.

 

Cheers

 

-DR

 

So he beat Nate and Hendo, yes. But since he beat them they can't get a rematch? So you're saying you'd rather see him fight guys like Cote and Leites who can't even put up a fight simply because he hasn't beaten them yet.

 

Did Hughes say "I wont fight GSP again cause I beat him"? No. Did Fedor say "I won't fight Nogueira again cause I beat him"? No. Did Wanderlei say "no I won't fight Rampage cause I beat him"? No. Did Randy say "Oh, I wont fight Chuck cause I beat him already"? No. All of those guys are bigger legends than Anderson and none of them have the right to pick and choose their opponents.

 

Think of where the Welterweight division would be if you all thought like this when Serra beat GSP. "Oh, Serra beat GSP, he shouldn't have to fight him again". And I got news for you, Serra beat GSP more convincingly than Silva beat Hendo.

 

3/5 of those examples all have 1 thing in common. 3 of them came back to win the rematch. This is competition. If a guy you beat earns his title shot again he earned it no matter how high fans want to hold him. #1 contender is #1 contender. Period. If the Colts and the Saints both went to the superbowl again next year the Colts shouldn't get to play them? wtf? If Silva wanted big super fights he'd move to 205. So don't give me that "he wants super fights" garbage. As long as he remains at 185lbs he should defend his belt against the #1 contender regardless if they've fought already.

[Kristufa]

What? Who cares about Sonnen at 205? I think we have a communication issue somewhere. *chuckle*

 

Cheers

 

-DR

Lol oh jeez.

 

Well played sir, well played.

I shan't hate the player, I shall hate the game.

[DoomPatrol]

Anderson lost 1 round to a Hendo before rocking him and submitting him. Is Sonnen a better wrestler than Hendo? Coz he sure doesn't have the power of Hendo.

 

Sonnen looked much bigger, faster and stronger than Hendo, not as good a striker as him though if that?s what u meant.

 

I mostly meant that everytime it?s starting to look like any wrestler is coming up they start this "not worthy" talk, but they?re ok with brawlers and sub-only guys.

 

Want superfights only? A lot of people wanted to see Hendo. Everybody wants to see GSP. Belfort was a legend, but these days he?s a question mark (and a brawler).

[DoomPatrol]

So he beat Nate and Hendo' date=' yes. But since he beat them they can't get a rematch? So you're saying you'd rather see him fight guys like Cote and Leites who can't even put up a fight simply because he hasn't beaten them yet.

 

Think of where the Welterweight division would be if you all thought like this when Serra beat GSP. "Oh, Serra beat GSP, he shouldn't have to fight him again". And I got news for you, Serra beat GSP more convincingly than Silva beat Hendo.

 

[/quote']

 

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[Sick00]

Sonnen looked much bigger' date=' faster and stronger than Hendo, not as good a striker as him though if that?s what u meant.

 

I mostly meant that everytime it?s starting to look like any wrestler is coming up they start this "not worthy" talk, but they?re ok with brawlers and sub-only guys.

 

Want superfights only? A lot of people wanted to see Hendo. Everybody wants to see GSP. Belfort was a legend, but these days he?s a question mark (and a brawler).[/quote']

 

Silva Vs GSP is a fight that everyone talks about but a hell of alot of things need to align for that to happen, not just on Silva's end. Personally I wanna see Silva Vs Shogun. If Silva is to retire after this current contract do you really wanna see him use a fight on Sonnen.

[DarkReflection]

So he beat Nate and Hendo' date=' yes. But since he beat them they can't get a rematch? So you're saying you'd rather see him fight guys like Cote and Leites who can't even put up a fight simply because he hasn't beaten them yet.

 

Did Hughes say "I wont fight GSP again cause I beat him"? No. Did Fedor say "I won't fight Nogueira again cause I beat him"? No. Did Wanderlei say "no I won't fight Rampage cause I beat him"? No. Did Randy say "Oh, I wont fight Chuck cause I beat him already"? No. All of those guys are bigger legends than Anderson and none of them have the right to pick and choose their opponents.

 

Think of where the Welterweight division would be if you all thought like this when Serra beat GSP. "Oh, Serra beat GSP, he shouldn't have to fight him again". And I got news for you, Serra beat GSP more convincingly than Silva beat Hendo.

 

3/5 of those examples all have 1 thing in common. 3 of them came back to win the rematch. This is competition. If a guy you beat earns his title shot again he earned it no matter how high fans want to hold him. #1 contender is #1 contender. Period. If the Colts and the Saints both went to the superbowl again next year the Colts shouldn't get to play them? wtf? If Silva wanted big super fights he'd move to 205. So don't give me that "he wants super fights" garbage. As long as he remains at 185lbs he should defend his belt against the #1 contender regardless if they've fought already.[/quote']

 

 

Yes he beat them both..and sure ONE of them can get a rematch...whoever wins between the two. Would you really have preferred if he fought Hendo..again. Followed by Nate...again? Imagine if it were YOUR career. 3 of you champion ship fights are rematches? So you've fought 6 fights with the SAME 3 guys? Really? Sounds kinda stale and stupid.

 

No I'm not saying he should fight Cote's and Leites' YOU are. When you want Silva to fight a guy he will likely embarrass....you are advocating the above. I want Silva to fight Rampage or Rua...or Evans...or ****ing Mir..I don't care..but challenge the guy..give him a good fight he can take seriously..and can make money on. It's a win all around. Why don't you want this?

 

First off I don't think all those guys you mentioned are bigger legends that Silva has already shown he will be..but that besides the point..BUT..if any of them were put in the position where the number 1 and 2 contender...WERE BOTH GUYS THEY HAD BEATEN IN TITLE FIGHTS!!! I'm pretty sure..they would request those two to fight for the rematch. Seriously man..I don't understand why this is so hard for you to...agree with or accept.

 

You beat two men. Both have worked their way back up to fight you again. You can either fight them BOTH again..or have the two guys YOU HAVE ALREADY BEATEN...fight each other FOR THE FIRST TIME!! To decide who earns the rematch.

 

Does that make it ANY easier to understand?

 

As for super fights. SILVA HAS SAID HE WANTS THEM! What part of THAT do YOU not get?

 

Cheers

 

-DR

[DoomPatrol]

If Silva has only 3 fights left, then no, I don?t want to see him fight Sonnen (unless he would win, that would be very interesting!). Whatever the case, I want Silva to continue fighting. He?s still young. I?m afraid he wants to win these 3 fights (on his own terms) and then retire so he can say he was the best and no one can argue. Let?s see him fight until he?s 46 like Randy.

[DarkReflection]

I agree...I don't want Silva to waste any of his remaining fights....not on multiple rematches...or questionable competition.

 

Cheers

 

-DR

[Alpha_Omega]

Yes he beat them both..and sure ONE of them can get a rematch...whoever wins between the two. Would you really have preferred if he fought Hendo..again. Followed by Nate...again? Imagine if it were YOUR career. 3 of you champion ship fights are rematches? So you've fought 6 fights with the SAME 3 guys? Really? Sounds kinda stale and stupid.

 

No I'm not saying he should fight Cote's and Leites' YOU are. When you want Silva to fight a guy he will likely embarrass....you are advocating the above. I want Silva to fight Rampage or Rua...or Evans...or ****ing Mir..I don't care..but challenge the guy..give him a good fight he can take seriously..and can make money on. It's a win all around. Why don't you want this?

 

First off I don't think all those guys you mentioned are bigger legends that Silva has already shown he will be..but that besides the point..BUT..if any of them were put in the position where the number 1 and 2 contender...WERE BOTH GUYS THEY HAD BEATEN IN TITLE FIGHTS!!! I'm pretty sure..they would request those two to fight for the rematch. Seriously man..I don't understand why this is so hard for you to...agree with or accept.

 

You beat two men. Both have worked their way back up to fight you again. You can either fight them BOTH again..or have the two guys YOU HAVE ALREADY BEATEN...fight each other FOR THE FIRST TIME!! To decide who earns the rematch.

 

Does that make it ANY easier to understand?

 

As for super fights. SILVA HAS SAID HE WANTS THEM! What part of THAT do YOU not get?

 

Cheers

 

-DR

 

If he wanted Super Fights he'd move to LHW for the rest of his career. I can say I want to fight Anderson Silva. Until I throw on some gloves and jump through hoops until he thinks I'm good enough to fight him, that's all talk.

 

If 3 guys were the best in the division I would fight them. Why would I fight lesser guys just because I haven't fought them? I would be HONORED to have Dan Henderson's name in my win column twice. Nobody else does. And if he didn't want to fight lesser guys and avoid people he's beaten just because he beat them he'd be at LHW. Period. Because in his mind he's cleaned out his division. What's he still doing there, then?

 

And actually, Wanderlei beat Sakuraba and Rampage both and defended his title against both afterwards. Sooo... yeah, my point is valid. And he didn't make them fight to do it. But beyond that, he hasn't beaten Sonnen and he hasn't beaten Belfort. So what's his excuse for asking them to jump through hoops? That throws your whole argument out the window.

 

We're going to have to agree to disagree on this.

[DarkReflection]

We're going to have to agree to disagree on this.

 

*chuckle*

 

Agreed. This is a fair mature response. Cheers sir. We may disagree on this point but it doesn't mean I can't enjoy your contributions to the dialogue on these forums. And I'm sure we agree in other areas.

 

Have a pleasant evening sir!

 

Cheers

 

-DR

[Alpha_Omega]

*chuckle*

 

Agreed. This is a fair mature response. Cheers sir. We may disagree on this point but it doesn't mean I can't enjoy your contributions to the dialogue on these forums. And I'm sure we agree in other areas.

 

Have a pleasant evening sir!

 

Cheers

 

-DR

 

Glad you didn't take it too seriously like most do.

 

Take it easy.

[DarkReflection]

Glad you didn't take it too seriously like most do.

 

Take it easy.

 

Yeah no worries man. I can get all into a debate like anyone..but end of the day we're both fans of the same sport. And none of these back and forths should get out of hand and cause real animosity. As I said before...alot of the people that argue constantly on here would probably find that they have more views in common than not.

 

Cheers sir

 

-DR

[walnuttree]

http://www.fiveknuckles.com/mma-news/Anderson-Silvas-manager-thinks-Chael-Sonnen-needs-to-fight-Demian-Maia-first.html

 

There is the link.

 

Another person Silva and Soares doesn't think deserves to fight Silva.

 

sigh....

 

Do they think ANYONE deserves to fight Silva?

 

somehow I doubt it.

 

Oh Jesus!!!!

It's so clear whats going on... Chael is a politician. He is very smart(not)_(throwing himself in front of a train to get his Kurt Cobain moment).

 

The people now, will be searching for everything the media claims to be Ed Soares(Anderson Silva) words and everyone is buying.

 

I have been in Brazil few times(2weeks-capoeira batizado and bjj in Salvador).

 

Look, Anderson Silva DO NOT SPEAK ENGLISH. He is not a bozo! He is like GSP very simple and down to earth type of person.

(We lost an amazing fighter(Tito) and we've got a bozo(Tito). That was a big lost! So, the bozo position belongs to tito and that's enough.

 

Everything you see and hear about AS in the pre-fights(trash talking), his words in portuguese does't have anything to do about KOing his opponent.

 

The folks that I met in Brazil laugh so much about that, because they say there is nothing to do with what he is really saying in Portuguese.

 

I am speaking as mma fan!

 

I am a not fan of fighters. Those mo****kers don't need that. UFC became a Cheerleader's house, bunch of grown man jumping on bandwagon too easy.

 

I hear people saying after chael fought nate; if he fights like that, he would run over silva.

 

That's crazy talk! If you believe on that you don't know nothing about mma.

 

Let's put this way, in the first few seconds of the fight, chael throw 2 punchs at nate with his head down, at that moment, if was AS; yes, you would know if you step out of the bandwagon you could see that chael would be like "what? what happen", he would be lost like bisping in the Dan Dan land! There is no joke! I am not saying just because; I am saying because I know what I am talking about!(I know that some of you have the same opinion; but the most are cheerleading.)

 

Chael did great against nate; and dont take me wrong ,I know anything can happen in a bout; but People have to stop saying that AS is overrated! He is no joke, I am talking as someone that analizes skills in the sport.

 

What I am trying to say here is: people need to stop listen to clowns that wants to be bigger than the circus, and start to respect the athletes, that live for the sport. Like BigNog,AS, Randy, GSP, Royce, Chuck, WadAXE.

 

PS. My favorite MMA STYLE, WAS DELIVERED BY THE GREATEST CHUCK LIDDELL !!

[adambomber]

Hendo beat Bisping in a number one contender fight

 

-buy the ticket take the ride lol

[KRYME]

Hendo beat Bisping in a number one contender fight

 

-buy the ticket take the ride lol

 

I see what you did there :confused:

 

-buy the ticket. take the ride.

[KRYME]

lol @ Dan Dan Land ^^^

 

-buy the ticket. take the ride.

[irishsmurf09]

I can kinda see Ed Soares point' date=' avenge his loss to Mia before he fights Silva. I think when Dana said the winner gets a title shot he was expecting Nate to win. But it is what it is, Sonnen won and therefor earned his shot.[/quote']

 

yeah i agree i think dana ws more tlking 2 nate because he didnt expect him 2 lose but now he has 2 give him a title shot

[Hutch68]

I would laugh my **** off if this whole discussion is a moot point, if Silva gets beat by Vitor. The fact that they say Chael doesn't deserve to fight him would just be hilarious if Sonnen gets his title shot against Vitor instead. I'm not a Sonnen fan, but give the guy some credit. He kicked Nate'a ****, and most people didn't think that would happen...me included, but Silva needs to get off his high horse, and I hope someone knocks him off of it SOON!