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I was watching MMA connected and they made a good point, Tito Ortiz is never gonna be the champ again, his style is way out dated and he has no stand up, he just stood there and took numerous shots from Forrest in the third round without returning any solid punches. Tito is a joke and is just looking to get attention, the guy was chriping Mark Coleman after his loss, does Tito not remember he lost his last fight. The UFC needs to stop wasting money on fighters like Tito and go after Mousasi. I know everyone is going to say it wont happen because of his tie with M-1 but he wants to fight the best fighters in the world and i think that is enough incentive to get him into the UFC. Promise him an instant title shot or a bout verse A. Silva. Bottom line is the UFC needs to start going after better fighters rather than signing guys like Tito. Dana i dont care what it takes get mousasi to the UFC, because i would rather watch him than Tito or any of these washed up fighters any day.

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tito draws a lot of fans. uneducated fans dont know about gerard moussasi

 

Its true but after 1 fight everyone would realize that this guy is #1 Light Heavyweight' date=' Tito wants too much money to fight now because he still thinks he is the best and he is done in my opinion, unless he makes a dramatic style change which i dont see happening.

 

The UFC is more interested in the fans that these older fighters bring in. Personally I think that Dana could have spent his money better than hiring Coleman, Tito, and Trigg.

 

This is what im talking about, They draw fans until they suck and your stuck with them. No one wants to see Frank Trigg anymore but the ufc is stuck with him for one more fight.

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The hype of Moussasi will end if he come to UFC. Like so many International fighters whom they said is very good but when they came to UFC they got humilliated. Like Cro Cop, also another International great Manhoef is being brought back to earth recently by Lawler. Int'l fighters are good kickboxing fighters but in UFC or in the cage it's different, people there will take you down and GNP you. That's where those Int'l fighters needs to train more before they go to UFC or other organizations that uses octagon.

Another example of Int'l fighter that everyone thought in Europe and M1-Global think that's the next Big Thing is Kiril Sidelnikov, he's even Fedor protege or they even call him Baby Fedor, but look what happen to him when he meet Buentello in Aflliction "Day of Reckoning". He got schooled and then TKO by Paul.

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The hype of Moussasi will end if he come to UFC. Like so many International fighters whom they said is very good but when they came to UFC they got humilliated. Like Cro Cop' date=' also another International great Manhoef is being brought back to earth recently by Lawler. Int'l fighters are good kickboxing fighters but in UFC or in the cage it's different, people there will take you down and GNP you. That's where those Int'l fighters needs to train more before they go to UFC or other organizations that uses octagon.

Another example of Int'l fighter that everyone thought in Europe and M1-Global think that's the next Big Thing is Kiril Sidelnikov, he's even Fedor protege or they even call him Baby Fedor, but look what happen to him when he meet Buentello in Aflliction "Day of Reckoning". He got schooled and then TKO by Paul.[/quote']

 

How many times are you going to fail today?

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The hype of Moussasi will end if he come to UFC. Like so many International fighters whom they said is very good but when they came to UFC they got humilliated. Like Cro Cop' date=' also another International great Manhoef is being brought back to earth recently by Lawler. Int'l fighters are good kickboxing fighters but in UFC or in the cage it's different, people there will take you down and GNP you. That's where those Int'l fighters needs to train more before they go to UFC or other organizations that uses octagon.

Another example of Int'l fighter that everyone thought in Europe and M1-Global think that's the next Big Thing is Kiril Sidelnikov, he's even Fedor protege or they even call him Baby Fedor, but look what happen to him when he meet Buentello in Aflliction "Day of Reckoning". He got schooled and then TKO by Paul.[/quote']

 

Fedor is 100000000 times the fighter brock will ever be and Mirko was past his prime when he came to the UFC ;;;; Watch some Pride and watch the fights there. There is a lot more MMA for u to learn

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Mousasi will not come to the UFC until Dana has more open agreements with his fighters. The same can be said for Emelianenko and those two train together, not sure if the management team is the same. Mousasi would give any LHW in the UFC a one sided beating save for Rua and Machida. The only reason I say those two is because they have shown the ability to be tactically sound as well as atheletic. If Evans would start showing more tactical prowess I would also say him. The guy is a killer, there are no two ways about it.

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Got a great idea for all the Brock fans.. Why dont we put a fight on with the undertaker and the Junior Dos Santos. Since the undertaker is the best pure striker.. Then we can do Shawn Michaels vs Anderson Silva .. Then we can end all of this with a match between Hong Man Choi and The Great Kali...

Or maybe bobby lashley vs big nog... Lol all these WWE fans gotta get some MMA education. MMA is a sport WWE is a soap opera. Brock is garbage period... (Shawn Michaels Sweet Chin Music vs Cro Cop Head Kick)

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Got a great idea for all the Brock fans.. Why dont we put a fight on with the undertaker and the Junior Dos Santos. Since the undertaker is the best pure striker.. Then we can do Shawn Michaels vs Anderson Silva .. Then we can end all of this with a match between Hong Man Choi and The Great Kali...

Or maybe bobby lashley vs big nog... Lol all these WWE fans gotta get some MMA education. MMA is a sport WWE is a soap opera. Brock is garbage period... (Shawn Michaels Sweet Chin Music vs Cro Cop Head Kick)

 

Brock has developed into a decent fighter dont get me wrong but it is cause of his size and strength that he wins his fights, if someone like Fedor comes in who has the size to compete with brock and the experience and ability to go along with it, it would be a great fight but then everyone would realize brock isnt the best out there.

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Mousasi will not come to the UFC until Dana has more open agreements with his fighters. The same can be said for Emelianenko and those two train together' date=' not sure if the management team is the same. Mousasi would give any LHW in the UFC a one sided beating save for Rua and Machida. The only reason I say those two is because they have shown the ability to be tactically sound as well as atheletic. If Evans would start showing more tactical prowess I would also say him. The guy is a killer, there are no two ways about it.[/quote']

 

Got a great idea for all the Brock fans.. Why dont we put a fight on with the undertaker and the Junior Dos Santos. Since the undertaker is the best pure striker.. Then we can do Shawn Michaels vs Anderson Silva .. Then we can end all of this with a match between Hong Man Choi and The Great Kali...

Or maybe bobby lashley vs big nog... Lol all these WWE fans gotta get some MMA education. MMA is a sport WWE is a soap opera. Brock is garbage period... (Shawn Michaels Sweet Chin Music vs Cro Cop Head Kick)

 

+1 .. good summaries

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HAHAHA 100% agreed. The UFC picked up Cro Cop after his prime and he isnt what he used to be. Mousasi is arguably the #1 Light Heavyweight in the world' date=' he isnt even 25 years old yet this guy has time to get even get better.[/quote']

 

You guys will never learn, all you have done is create excuses for your overhype International fighters.

Semmy Schilt is a Legendary fighter from Holland, he's a legend in K-1, he achieved a lot more than Moussasi in K-1. He came to UFC in his prime. He got submitted by Barnett and the rest is history for his career ing UFC. He didn't make an impression in UFC. Now you're telling me that Moussasi will, where are your minds?

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The hype of Moussasi will end if he come to UFC. Like so many International fighters whom they said is very good but when they came to UFC they got humilliated. Like Cro Cop' date=' also another International great Manhoef is being brought back to earth recently by Lawler. Int'l fighters are good kickboxing fighters but in UFC or in the cage it's different, people there will take you down and GNP you. That's where those Int'l fighters needs to train more before they go to UFC or other organizations that uses octagon.

Another example of Int'l fighter that everyone thought in Europe and M1-Global think that's the next Big Thing is Kiril Sidelnikov, he's even Fedor protege or they even call him Baby Fedor, but look what happen to him when he meet Buentello in Aflliction "Day of Reckoning". He got schooled and then TKO by Paul.[/quote']

 

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Mousasi will not come to the UFC until Dana has more open agreements with his fighters. The same can be said for Emelianenko and those two train together' date=' not sure if the management team is the same. Mousasi would give any LHW in the UFC a one sided beating save for Rua and Machida. The only reason I say those two is because they have shown the ability to be tactically sound as well as atheletic. If Evans would start showing more tactical prowess I would also say him. The guy is a killer, there are no two ways about it.[/quote']

 

What you said in that first sentence is what drives me nuts with Dana... He is a great business man and has turned the UFC into a huge organization but he needs to be more concerned about the fights than making money... This guy lost Dan Henderson because he promised Vitor a title shot. He should expand his mind abit and actually consider ways to bring the M-1 guys into the UFC because having them would make him alot more money it the long run.

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You guys will never learn' date=' all you have done is create excuses for your overhype International fighters.

Semmy Schilt is a Legendary fighter from Holland, he's a legend in K-1, he achieved a lot more than Moussasi in K-1. He came to UFC in his prime. He got submitted by Barnett and the rest is history for his career ing UFC. He didn't make an impression in UFC. Now you're telling me that Moussasi will, where are your minds?[/quote']

 

my mind is too busy watching Mousasi fights where he has just destroyed the competition and he doesnt even look like hes trying.

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You guys will never learn' date=' all you have done is create excuses for your [b']overhype International fighters[/b].

Semmy Schilt is a Legendary fighter from Holland, he's a legend in K-1, he achieved a lot more than Moussasi in K-1. He came to UFC in his prime. He got submitted by Barnett and the rest is history for his career ing UFC. He didn't make an impression in UFC. Now you're telling me that Moussasi will, where are your minds?

 

Bisping?

 

-buy the ticket. take the ride.

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You guys will never learn' date=' all you have done is create excuses for your overhype International fighters.

Semmy Schilt is a Legendary fighter from Holland, he's a legend in K-1, he achieved a lot more than Moussasi in K-1. He came to UFC in his prime. He got submitted by Barnett and the rest is history for his career ing UFC. He didn't make an impression in UFC. Now you're telling me that Moussasi will, where are your minds?[/quote']

 

Another Lesturd. lol

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Bisping?

 

-buy the ticket. take the ride.

 

its never a good idea to bring up Bisping everybody thinks he's overated and a horrible fighter, I disagree but i'm just letting you know your setting yourself up to get flamed

 

besides that i would love to see mousasi in the UFC i think he would be one of the top and i still say Anderson Silva vs Mousasi would be freakin EPIC!!!!

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OH my bad..............well this was exactly what i was saying hahaha i still think he's good

 

being flamed by Bisping lovers is the least of my worries lol

 

say something about "Fedor > Brock" ..then you are going to have issues.

 

-buy the ticket. take the ride.

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HAHAHA 100% agreed. The UFC picked up Cro Cop after his prime and he isnt what he used to be. Mousasi is arguably the #1 Light Heavyweight in the world' date=' he isnt even 25 years old yet this guy has time to get even get better.[/quote']

 

I wouldnt go as far as saying he's #1... Thats a tad too far fetched for my liking.

 

In all honesty id put him at #5 after:

 

Shogun

Machida

Rampage

Evans

 

The only way he is going to climb any higher is by defeating one of these guys which isnt going to happen while he is being fed so called "contenders" at Strikeforce, Everyone knows the UFC has the LHW on lockdown.

 

If Hendo comes up to LHW for a shot at his title after he annihilates Shields ill gladly bump him up past Rashad but not over Rampage for obvious reasons.

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I wouldnt go as far as saying he's #1... Thats a tad too far fetched for my liking.

 

In all honesty id put him at #5 after:

 

Shogun

Machida

Rampage

Evans

 

The only way he is going to climb any higher is by defeating one of these guys which isnt going to happen while he is being fed so called "contenders" at Strikeforce' date=' Everyone knows the UFC has the LHW on lockdown.

 

If Hendo comes up to LHW for a shot at his title after he annihilates Shields ill gladly bump him up past Rashad but not over Rampage for obvious reasons.[/quote']

 

I dont know why people rate Shogun so high what has he done, who has he beaten... He got his title shot after beating Chuck(nothing against Chuck). But the Shogun v. Machida fight was the most boring fight ever... He just fed him leg kicks the entire time, he didnt show me enough that he deserved to be the champ so I would rate Mousasi ahead of Shogun.

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I dont know why people rate Shogun so high what has he done' date=' who has he beaten... He got his title shot after beating Chuck(nothing against Chuck). But the Shogun v. Machida fight was the most boring fight ever... He just fed him leg kicks the entire time, he didnt show me enough that he deserved to be the champ so I would rate Mousasi ahead of Shogun.[/quote']

 

Because he is a great fighter and prospect for the LHW division, Like most other PRIDE fighters he had a hard time transitioning to the UFC/Octagon(injury problems included) but unlike Wanderlei and Cro Cop he isnt past his prime and still has alot of years of fight left in him.

 

Hes beaten a relative who's who of the HW/LHW division like Rampage, Lil Nog, Arona, Overeem, Randleman, Liddell, Coleman and arguably Machida.

 

On the other hand Mousasi has victories over Babalu, Hunt, Manheof and Kang... Most of these fighters being nowhere near the calibre of the opponents Shogun has fought and beaten.

 

As for the Machida/Shogun fight... I was far from bored, This might just be me and my opinion here, But i was hanging onto the edge of my seat with every exchange they had... From where i sat it looked like Shogun was winning on points but i knew Machida had the ability to land one flurry and knock Shogun out, Thus is the talent level of these 2 great fighters and i cant wait for the rematch.

 

Have you checked your pulse lately perhaps?

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Because he is a great fighter and prospect for the LHW division' date=' Like most other PRIDE fighters he had a hard time transitioning to the UFC/Octagon(injury problems included) but unlike Wanderlei and Cro Cop he isnt past his prime and still has alot of years of fight left in him.

 

Hes beaten a relative who's who of the HW/LHW division like Rampage, Lil Nog, Arona, Overeem, Randleman, Liddell, Coleman and arguably Machida.

 

On the other hand Mousasi has victories over Babalu, Hunt, Manheof and Kang... Most of these fighters being nowhere near the calibre of the opponents Shogun has fought and beaten.

 

As for the Machida/Shogun fight... I was far from bored, This might just be me and my opinion here, But i was hanging onto the edge of my seat with every exchange they had... From where i sat it looked like Shogun was winning on points but i knew Machida had the ability to land one flurry and knock Shogun out, Thus is the talent level of these 2 great fighters and i cant wait for the rematch.

 

Have you checked your pulse lately perhaps?[/quote']

 

I agree he has beaten some good fighters but he hasn't beaten proven fighters really in the octagon i believe, he should have had to go through rampage or rashad. I dont know i just wasnt impressed with either, shogun or machida in that fight, im really hoping they bring it in the rematch

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I would have liked to see a rematch between Shogun and Rampage, Now that both have improved and the ring or soccer kicks are no longer a issue but the TUF10 season put an end to that.

 

As for the rematch, I wouldnt be surprised if it was more of the same except this time Machida will have to engage in attacking more often then he did the first time as he expected Shogun to just walk in and get countered which clearly wasnt the case.

 

If anything expect Shogun to go to the clinch more and have a tad bit more of a killer instinct... Atleast i hope :)

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Gegard Mousasi is young and a complete stud in the MMA world. I think he has 1 fight remaining on his current SF contract, then we will see if Dana can make this happen. Mousasi likes to stay busy and competes in K1 events, something Dana doesnt like his fighters to do. That and the fact he is with M1 make this a hard sell.

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Gegard Mousasi is young and a complete stud in the MMA world. I think he has 1 fight remaining on his current SF contract' date=' then we will see if Dana can make this happen. Mousasi likes to stay busy and competes in K1 events, something Dana doesnt like his fighters to do. That and the fact he is with M1 make this a hard sell.[/quote']

 

Which is ironic because he shares a similar fighting style with Fedor. I honestly believe that nobody is going to touch this guy. He will be the new Fedor in 4 years. MARK MY WORDS!!!

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The hype of Moussasi will end if he come to UFC. Like so many International fighters whom they said is very good but when they came to UFC they got humilliated. Like Cro Cop' date=' also another International great Manhoef is being brought back to earth recently by Lawler. Int'l fighters are good kickboxing fighters but in UFC or in the cage it's different, people there will take you down and GNP you. That's where those Int'l fighters needs to train more before they go to UFC or other organizations that uses octagon.

Another example of Int'l fighter that everyone thought in Europe and M1-Global think that's the next Big Thing is Kiril Sidelnikov, he's even Fedor protege or they even call him Baby Fedor, but look what happen to him when he meet Buentello in Aflliction "Day of Reckoning". He got schooled and then TKO by Paul.[/quote']

 

I really don't think you've ever even watched Mousasi fight. First of all you do know Strikeforce uses an octagon same as the UFC right? So all of this nonsense about Mousasi never stepping into a cage and getting owned shows you don't know wtf your talking about. Secondly, have you seen Mousasi fight off of his back before? Evidently not seeing as how you think he will just be taken down and GnP'd to death. The dude has some sick submissions, I recommend you check out the triangle chokes he sank in against Kang and Manhoef, or the sick upkick he knocked Souza out with, and Souza is thought of as one of the best bjj guy in the biz. Thirdly, Mousasi is 25 years old and has over 30 pro fights under his belt, compared to a guy like BJ whos been doing this for over a decade and barely has 20. Gegard has rattled together a 28-2-1 record in 7 years (he started fighting professionally at just 18). As has been stated earlier, Mousasi has trained with some of the best in the world, including Fedor and BJ. I dont mind that your a Brock fan, or that you probably came over from WWE, but PLEASE dont spew this ******** without knowing wtf you talking about.. it makes you look foolish.

 

 

 

That being said I really really want to see Mousasi in the UFC, but i dont like the chances of it happening. Gegard likes to stay busy and fights like 6-7 times a year and fights in more organizations than just SF. The UFC usually only has their guys fight 3-5 times a year. On top of that Dana seems to get pissy with his guys doing other ****, and deffo wont allow him to hop between UFC and DREAM etc. Maybe in a couple years he could make it in, but I think he wants something more then the UFC and Dana can offer at this point in time....

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I think you will see Mousasi in the UFC sooner than later. As everyone knows, Mousasi now trains with GSP in Montreal. They are good friends.

 

Maybe GSP will lean on him to come to the UFC.

 

I think he can hold the LHW UFC title. I can see him beating Machida and Shogun.

 

I seen in a recent interview he said he is walking around at 220 pounds.

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I really don't think you've ever even watched Mousasi fight. First of all you do know Strikeforce uses an octagon same as the UFC right? So all of this nonsense about Mousasi never stepping into a cage and getting owned shows you don't know wtf your talking about. Secondly' date=' have you seen Mousasi fight off of his back before? Evidently not seeing as how you think he will just be taken down and GnP'd to death. The dude has some sick submissions, I recommend you check out the triangle chokes he sank in against Kang and Manhoef, or the sick upkick he knocked Souza out with, and Souza is thought of as one of the best bjj guy in the biz. Thirdly, Mousasi is 25 years old and has over 30 pro fights under his belt, compared to a guy like BJ whos been doing this for over a decade and barely has 20. Gegard has rattled together a 28-2-1 record in 7 years (he started fighting professionally at just 18). As has been stated earlier, Mousasi has trained with some of the best in the world, including Fedor and BJ. I dont mind that your a Brock fan, or that you probably came over from WWE, but PLEASE dont spew this ******** without knowing wtf you talking about.. it makes you look foolish.

 

 

 

That being said I really really want to see Mousasi in the UFC, but i dont like the chances of it happening. Gegard likes to stay busy and fights like 6-7 times a year and fights in more organizations than just SF. The UFC usually only has their guys fight 3-5 times a year. On top of that Dana seems to get pissy with his guys doing other ****, and deffo wont allow him to hop between UFC and DREAM etc. Maybe in a couple years he could make it in, but I think he wants something more then the UFC and Dana can offer at this point in time....[/quote']

 

Yeah he's very busy fighting 6-7 times a year against cans, guys like Sokoudju, Kang, Sobral whom all are being cut by UFC. Then there's Manhoef who got beaten by one legged man Lawler. Kang is TKO by Bisping. Moussasi experience in Strikeforce octagon is not that much, he haven't face yet in the octagon guys like Couture & Ortiz who uses cage as a weapon during the clinch or after takedown. I don't see so much special in this Moussasi, like Cro Cop he will be brutalize in UFC.

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The UFC needs to stop wasting money on fighters like Tito and go after Mousasi...

 

 

I couldn't agree more but it's obvious that the UFC doesn't give a shxt about talent, they only care about marketability. They're becoming more WWE'esque everyday, bringing in street fighters, has-beens and trash talkers they can hype for short term PPV returns.

 

I believe that were seeing the peak in popularity of MMA among serious fans who care about legitimate athletic competition and soon it will be almost indistinguishable from "sports entertainment" like pro-wrestling. It's coverage will be dropped by the mainstream sports media and it will lose any shred of credibility that it's earned over the past few decades. While it will no doubt remain wildly popular among the wrestling/truck & tractor pull crowd it's days of being recognized as an actual sport are numbered.

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Got a great idea for all the Brock fans.. Why dont we put a fight on with the undertaker and the Junior Dos Santos. Since the undertaker is the best pure striker.. Then we can do Shawn Michaels vs Anderson Silva .. Then we can end all of this with a match between Hong Man Choi and The Great Kali...

Or maybe bobby lashley vs big nog... Lol all these WWE fans gotta get some MMA education. MMA is a sport WWE is a soap opera. Brock is garbage period... (Shawn Michaels Sweet Chin Music vs Cro Cop Head Kick)

 

hahaha

 

You guys will never learn' date=' all you have done is create excuses for your overhype International fighters.

Semmy Schilt is a Legendary fighter from Holland, he's a legend in K-1, he achieved a lot more than Moussasi in K-1. He came to UFC in his prime. He got submitted by Barnett and the rest is history for his career ing UFC. He didn't make an impression in UFC. Now you're telling me that Moussasi will, where are your minds?[/quote']

 

are you mentally challenged?

Georges St. Pierre one of the best P4P fighters in the world chose to train with Gegard but he is over hyped?

 

Fedor Emelianenko the P4P greatest trains with him on a regular basis but he won't make an impression in the UFC?

 

look at the first quote on my sig

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I think Gegard will end up in the UFC eventually because he's even stated that he'd like to fight there one day. As for how he'll do. I think if he came in today he'd do very well...I think he'd at the worst be competitive in the 205 division. But would he come in and dominate? I honestly can't say I've seen enough to determine that. I look at the Sokodjou fight and I have some questions. But I think he'd be an EXCELLENT addition to the UFC and I think he's got an incredible future...you also gotta look at the fact that he's a kid. And he'd already very likely be in the top 10 at 205 in the UFC. Who knows where he could be with the right tutelage in say 3-5 years...could be a scary dude.

 

Cheers

 

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Yeah he's very busy fighting 6-7 times a year against cans' date=' guys like Sokoudju, Kang, Sobral whom all are being cut by UFC. Then there's Manhoef who got beaten by one legged man Lawler. Kang is TKO by Bisping. Moussasi experience in Strikeforce octagon is not that much, he haven't face yet in the octagon guys like Couture & Ortiz who uses cage as a weapon during the clinch or after takedown. I don't see so much special in this Moussasi, like Cro Cop he will be brutalize in UFC.[/quote']

 

Raffy, your arguments are so lame that its humorous lol

 

See the thing is, the kid is 24 years old with something like 17 (T)KO's and 9 submission.

So he may not have fought the best in the world, but that's not his fault. But a lot of people he has fought are very very tough competition. Just because you don't know who they are, doesn't mean they are not good fighters.

Babalu got cut from the UFC because he almost choked a guy to death, not cause he isn't any good. Babalu is a dangerous guy. And Mousasi beat the f*** out of him. And he didn't even look like he was trying.

And please don't discredit Manhoef because he got caught for being over aggressive. I do believe the same thing happened to your boy toy Brock. Am I right? Thought so.

 

The thing is Raffy, not only did he beat these guys, he beat the S*** out of them. And he did it with ease. Go watch his fights. He looks bored while beating these guys up. Mousasi is the future of MMA. At 24 years old, he can only get better and progress. And the more he progresses, the more dangerous he becomes. And the more dangerous Mousasi gets, the more other fighters are f***ed.

 

You really need to take Brock's d*** out of your mouth and get a clue.

 

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