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The Junior Dos Santos bandwagon should be rolling in pretty soon. I keep saying Dos Santos will be the next big thing in the Heavyweight divison. Even if he can't handle Lesnar's lay and pray, I believe he can still destroy any other fighter in the Heavyweight division. This fight with Gonzaga has it set in stone. Did you see how Dos Santos jumped right back up after Gonzaga took him down? Gonzaga having the better BJJ, HA! Gonzaga is gatekeeper at best. Lucky kick on CroCop in my opinion. My friend was watching the fights at my place and I loved the look on his face when Dos Santos knocked the hell out of Gonzaga. Good night of fights. I only missed 2 out 11 fights on Fantasy, and that isn't bad at all. Ranked 72 out of 16405. I was wrong on Eric Shafer and James Irvin.

 

 

Great night. :cool:

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The Junior Dos Santos bandwagon should be rolling in pretty soon. I keep saying Dos Santos will be the next big thing in the Heavyweight divison. Even if he can't handle Lesnar's lay and pray' date=' I believe he can still destroy any other fighter in the Heavyweight division. This fight with Gonzaga has it set in stone. Did you see how Dos Santos jumped right back up after Gonzaga took him down? Gonzaga having the better BJJ, HA! Gonzaga is gatekeeper at best. Lucky kick on CroCop in my opinion. My friend was watching the fights at my place and I loved the look on his face when Dos Santos knocked the hell out of Gonzaga. Good night of fights. I only missed 2 out 11 fights on Fantasy, and that isn't bad at all. Ranked 72 out of 16405. I was wrong on Eric Shafer and James Irvin.

 

 

Great night. :cool:[/quote']

 

What has Gonzaga ever done? Really? I'm a JDS fan, but everyone is prematurely saying how great he is. To be considered a top fighter, you need to fight a top fighter, and Gabriel Gonzaga is not a top fighter.

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What has Gonzaga ever done? Really? I'm a JDS fan' date=' but everyone is prematurely saying how great he is. To be considered a top fighter, you need to fight a top fighter, and Gabriel Gonzaga is not a top fighter.[/quote']

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He's looked awful good against these "mediocre" fighters.

Much more dominant than anyone I've seen in a while.

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What has Gonzaga ever done? Really? I'm a JDS fan' date=' but everyone is prematurely saying how great he is. To be considered a top fighter, you need to fight a top fighter, and Gabriel Gonzaga is not a top fighter.[/quote']

 

1.) Beat Werdum in his UFC debut in the first round by knockout. Werdum is considered among the Top 10 if not 5.

 

2.) Dominated Struve. (Not that big of a deal, I know.)

 

3.) Dominated CroCop, and made CroCop GIVE UP in the 3rd round. Considering this is CroCop, making him give is damn impressive.

 

3.) Dominated Gilbert Yvel. Hot new prospect in the UFC, said to be one of the best all around strikers in MMA.

 

4.) Dominated Gonzaga. Skilled BJJ blackbelt and striker.

 

Dominated all his fights in spectacular fasion. Hasn't been anywhere near danger of losing a fight. Who else should he take on?

 

Big Nog? Come on, thats asking for a KO.

 

Cain? His chin is in question and Dos Santos is strong enough to defend against his wrestling.

 

Carwin? He was rocked by Gonzaga. He couldn't stand against Dos Santos for long.

 

Kongo? Great striker, but he wouldn't be able to handle Dos Santos.

 

Mir? Possible. Mir maybe could defeat him.

 

Lesnar? It's possible for Lesnar with his damn lay and pray.

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1.) Beat Werdum in his UFC debut in the first round by knockout. Werdum is considered among the Top 10 if not 5.

 

2.) Dominated Struve. (Not that big of a deal' date=' I know.)

 

3.) Dominated CroCop, and made CroCop GIVE UP in the 3rd round. Considering this is CroCop, making him give is damn impressive.

 

3.) Dominated Gilbert Yvel. Hot new prospect in the UFC, said to be one of the best all around strikers in MMA.

 

4.) Dominated Gonzaga. Skilled BJJ blackbelt and striker.

 

Dominated all his fights in spectacular fasion. Hasn't been anywhere near danger of losing a fight. Who else should he take on?

 

Big Nog? Come on, thats asking for a KO.

 

Cain? His chin is in question and Dos Santos is strong enough to defend against his wrestling.

 

Carwin? He was rocked by Gonzaga. He couldn't stand against Dos Santos for long.

 

Kongo? Great striker, but he wouldn't be able to handle Dos Santos.

 

Mir? Possible. Mir maybe could defeat him.

 

Lesnar? It's possible for Lesnar with his damn lay and pray.[/quote']

 

It doesn't take much to make Cro Cop quit now days. And Yvel is a vet, not a newcomer. He also wasn't top 10 just to be clear.

 

To be honest I wasn't impressed with JDS too much tonight. Mainly because that was the worst, terribly ranged, awfully timed, most bare naked kick I have ever seen. Any guy with 3 weeks of taebo training could have countered that. Gonzaga is overhyped, overrated. He's not top 10.

 

I like JDS, don't like Velasquez. But Cain was much more impressive.

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1.) Beat Werdum in his UFC debut in the first round by knockout. Werdum is considered among the Top 10 if not 5.

 

2.) Dominated Struve. (Not that big of a deal' date=' I know.)

 

3.) Dominated CroCop, and made CroCop GIVE UP in the 3rd round. Considering this is CroCop, making him give is damn impressive.

 

3.) Dominated Gilbert Yvel. Hot new prospect in the UFC, said to be one of the best all around strikers in MMA.

 

4.) Dominated Gonzaga. Skilled BJJ blackbelt and striker.

 

Dominated all his fights in spectacular fasion. Hasn't been anywhere near danger of losing a fight. Who else should he take on?

 

Big Nog? Come on, thats asking for a KO.

 

Cain? His chin is in question and Dos Santos is strong enough to defend against his wrestling.

 

Carwin? He was rocked by Gonzaga. He couldn't stand against Dos Santos for long.

 

Kongo? Great striker, but he wouldn't be able to handle Dos Santos.

 

Mir? Possible. Mir maybe could defeat him.

 

Lesnar? It's possible for Lesnar with his damn lay and pray.[/quote']

 

Werdum isn't even in the UFC anymore.

 

Struve is terrible.

 

Cro-Cop isn't nearly as good as everyone seems to think. Yes he was good in pride, but look how many people that were in Pride still contend for titles in the UFC.

 

Yvel? He hasn't really accomplished anything.

 

Yes he's dominated his fights in spectacular fashion, but who in the top 5 wouldn't? He needs to fight a top 5 opponent, and then we will see. Right now everyone seems to agree that, in no particular order, brock, mir, carwin, cain, and jds are all in the top 5.

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1.) Beat Werdum in his UFC debut in the first round by knockout. Werdum is considered among the Top 10 if not 5.

 

2.) Dominated Struve. (Not that big of a deal' date=' I know.)

 

3.) Dominated CroCop, and made CroCop GIVE UP in the 3rd round. Considering this is CroCop, making him give is damn impressive.

 

3.) Dominated Gilbert Yvel. Hot new prospect in the UFC, said to be one of the best all around strikers in MMA.

 

4.) Dominated Gonzaga. Skilled BJJ blackbelt and striker.

 

Dominated all his fights in spectacular fasion. Hasn't been anywhere near danger of losing a fight. Who else should he take on?

 

Big Nog? Come on, thats asking for a KO.

 

Cain? His chin is in question and Dos Santos is strong enough to defend against his wrestling.

 

Carwin? He was rocked by Gonzaga. He couldn't stand against Dos Santos for long.

 

Kongo? Great striker, but he wouldn't be able to handle Dos Santos.

 

Mir? Possible. Mir maybe could defeat him.

 

[b']Lesnar? It's possible for Lesnar with his damn lay and pray[/b].

 

Not a fan of lesnar but how in any way is he lay and pray?

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It doesn't take much to make Cro Cop quit now days. And Yvel is a vet' date=' not a newcomer. He also wasn't top 10 just to be clear.

 

To be honest I wasn't impressed with JDS too much tonight. Mainly because that was the worst, terribly ranged, awfully timed, most bare naked kick I have ever seen. Any guy with 3 weeks of taebo training could have countered that. Gonzaga is overhyped, overrated. He's not top 10.

 

I like JDS, don't like Velasquez. But Cain was much more impressive.[/quote']

 

I know Yvel is a vet, I said he was a hot new prospect in the "UFC", not all of "MMA". Unless I am mistaken he has fought in the UFC before, and I said that Werdum was in the Top 10, not Yvel. You sound like my friend with the "not impressed" talk. He said it before Yvel, and before Gonzaga. I guess we will just have to wait and see if you are impressed by him after knocking out his next opponent. I like Valesquez too, and was impressed, but you have to admit Big Nog is falling off a little, a win over Couture doesn't mean your still near the top. Big Nog beating Couture was like Couture beating Coleman.

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The Junior Dos Santos bandwagon should be rolling in pretty soon. I keep saying Dos Santos will be the next big thing in the Heavyweight divison. Even if he can't handle Lesnar's lay and pray' date=' I believe he can still destroy any other fighter in the Heavyweight division. This fight with Gonzaga has it set in stone. Did you see how Dos Santos jumped right back up after Gonzaga took him down? Gonzaga having the better BJJ, HA! Gonzaga is gatekeeper at best. Lucky kick on CroCop in my opinion. My friend was watching the fights at my place and I loved the look on his face when Dos Santos knocked the hell out of Gonzaga. Good night of fights. I only missed 2 out 11 fights on Fantasy, and that isn't bad at all. Ranked 72 out of 16405. I was wrong on Eric Shafer and James Irvin.

 

 

Great night. :cool:[/quote']

 

Me personally I'm starting to hate Watching Dos Santos or Bones jones fight. At least these guys could do for us is play with opponents just a little bit. Every time they fight its like total destruction.

 

Just joking.

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I know Yvel is a vet' date=' I said he was a hot new prospect in the "UFC", not all of "MMA". Unless I am mistaken he has fought in the UFC before, and I said that Werdum was in the Top 10, not Yvel. You sound like my friend with the "not impressed" talk. He said it before Yvel, and before Gonzaga. I guess we will just have to wait and see if you are impressed by him after knocking out his next opponent. I like Valesquez too, and was impressed, but you have to admit Big Nog is falling off a little, a win over Couture doesn't mean your still near the top. Big Nog beating Couture was like Couture beating Coleman.[/quote']

 

A win over Nog is more impressive than a win over Gonzaga, easily.

 

And I'm just being honest, it was not an impressive KO. I like JDS. But that was not impressive to me. That was one of the worst kicks I've ever seen. hand down, close range, chin up = a terrible kick. Anybody could have countered that. Sure it's not JDS' fault he threw a terrible kick, but that still stops it from being impressive.

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Werdum isn't even in the UFC anymore.

 

Struve is terrible.

 

Cro-Cop isn't nearly as good as everyone seems to think. Yes he was good in pride' date=' but look how many people that were in Pride still contend for titles in the UFC.

 

Yvel? He hasn't really accomplished anything.

 

Yes he's dominated his fights in spectacular fashion, but who in the top 5 wouldn't? He needs to fight a top 5 opponent, and then we will see. Right now everyone seems to agree that, in no particular order, brock, mir, carwin, cain, and jds are all in the top 5.[/quote']

 

Werdum was top 5 when Dos Santos defeated him.

 

As for Gilbert Yvel, 32 (T)KO out of 36 wins if pretty impressive for anyone. I'm not saying he is anywhere near the top, but you have to admit is Muay Thai is deadly, and Dos Santos did well against him.

 

So, you just named the top fight, and I only think Mir and Lesnar could beat him. Even at only being the 5th best in the division, that means he can still destroy everyone else, and thats saying something. It's like Fedor, he may not be fighting the best in the UFC, but does that mean his skills are any less great? I think not.

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For those who are still not impressed by JDS, and were impressed by cains preformance against nog.

 

What do you think JDS would do to Nog if they were to fight? (I know they are training partners and it's not going to happen) I'm 100% sure JDS would knock his **** out in the first round just as good as cain did, if not better!

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For those who are still not impressed by JDS' date=' and were impressed by cains preformance against nog.

 

What do you think JDS would do to Nog if they were to fight? (I know they are training partners and it's not going to happen) I'm 100% sure JDS would knock his **** out in the first round just as good as cain did, if not better![/quote']

 

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It doesn't take much to make Cro Cop quit now days. And Yvel is a vet' date=' not a newcomer. He also wasn't top 10 just to be clear.

 

To be honest I wasn't impressed with JDS too much tonight. Mainly because that was the worst, terribly ranged, awfully timed, most bare naked kick I have ever seen. Any guy with 3 weeks of taebo training could have countered that. Gonzaga is overhyped, overrated. He's not top 10.

 

I like JDS, don't like Velasquez. But Cain was much more impressive.[/quote']

 

The Taebo thing was spot on. Gabe threw lame leg kicks and JDS said fine, i'll crack you when you throw one of those, especially when you put your right hand down on one of the better left hands in UFC! That KO was not that impressive. And Gabe is not a top heavyweight. Let's see JDS fight some better HWs before we all start swingin' eh?-

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What has Gonzaga ever done? Really? I'm a JDS fan' date=' but everyone is prematurely saying how great he is. To be considered a top fighter, you need to fight a top fighter, and Gabriel Gonzaga is not a top fighter.[/quote']

 

Werdum was what #4 in the world when he beat him.

Cro Cop could still take off anyones head if he tries

Yvel is a ko artist and very dangerous

Gab is a JJ beast.

 

Short of fighting Nog (his mentor) Mir or Fedor, the best Heavyweights around are the up and comers beating the older legends.

JDS is the guy putting away everyone, even the named guys away in dominant fashion. Better than Cain, better than Carwins competition.

 

Who is he supposed to beat before people see he is someone not to be overlooked?

**** if he beat Fedor if the first few minute of the first round people would still be saying he needs to be better tested on the ground.

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Cheers mate

 

I can't believe the people that still doubt JDS and don't see he's heading straight for the top!:confused:

 

Because he beat Yvel, CroCop & Gonzaga???? Ha! Take a look a good look at these guys JDS has fought and you'll see why some folks doubt him. He needs more big fights my friend. There's top four in UFC HW and that's it! Everyone else are simply once-upon-a-time gatekeepers. Anyone in the current top four would destoy the competetion JDS has fought. Maybe he will get his shot at that top four now..since that's pretty much all there is left for him. But don't question the doubt, when the competetion is suspect.-

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Because he beat Yvel' date=' CroCop & Gonzaga???? Ha! Take a look a good look at these guys JDS has fought and you'll see why some folks doubt him. He needs more big fights my friend. There's top four in UFC HW and that's it! Everyone else are simply once-upon-a-time gatekeepers. Anyone in the current top four would destoy the competetion JDS has fought. Maybe he will get his shot at that top four now..since that's pretty much all there is left for him. But don't question the doubt, when the competetion is suspect.-

MrKobayashi[/quote']

 

You left out Werdum!:P jk

Yeah sure he still has mir,carwin,cain and brock to fight and still needs to be tested on the ground, but he has taken out everybody put in front of him with ease!

You can't say for sure that those top hws mentioned above could defeat JDS former opponents that easily! (I know they have the potential too)

My point really was people talking up cains win against nog saying it was more impressive than juniors because cains was against nog!

Junior would destroy nog in the first round just the same as cain imo!

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Werdum was what #4 in the world when he beat him.

Cro Cop could still take off anyones head if he tries

Yvel is a ko artist and very dangerous

Gab is a JJ beast.

 

Short of fighting Nog (his mentor) Mir or Fedor' date=' the best Heavyweights around are the up and comers beating the older legends.

JDS is the guy putting away everyone, even the named guys away in dominant fashion. Better than Cain, better than Carwins competition.

 

Who is he supposed to beat before people see he is someone not to be overlooked?

**** if he beat Fedor if the first few minute of the first round people would still be saying he needs to be better tested on the ground.[/quote']

 

I'm gonna have to agree.

Not too sure why everybody is doubting him. He's been fighting good guys, and he's been looking better in each fight. He's got OBVIOUS knockout power, and the fact that Gonzaga couldn't keep him down, shows that he's also got tremendous grappling skills.

Haters will be haters, I guess.

For the people who say he needs to fight 'better competition'.. who would you suggest that he fight? Todd Duffee?

 

I guess the obvious next two fights will be Dos Santos vs Velasquez, and Nogueira vs Gonzaga.

I think that sounds pretty damn good.

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