BJ Penn vs. A.Silva

[Dmtl]

If Bj was in shape at MW does anyone think this would be an interesting match?

[123bdog]

You mean If BJ magically became a true 185 pound fighter? Then yea it would be a hell of a fight, a true tactical standup battle. Bj's chin is awesome and we would get to see just how awesome it is.

[steviez]

No way. BJ got schooled by GSP. He is one of the best PNP but so is Silva. He could never fight Silva. Thats ridiculous.

[Dmtl]

Yes, in shape to fight at that weight. Stylistically BJ has the boxing Silva has the Muy Thai, they both have good BJJ.

 

I think it would come down to Silva's reach advantage.

[0verrated]

Yes' date=' in shape to fight at that weight. Stylistically BJ has the boxing Silva has the Muy Thai, they both have good BJJ.

 

I think it would come down to Silva's reach advantage.[/quote']

 

Bj does have a short reach, Only 70". Silva has 77" reach and is much more dynamic. He is a more creative fighter.

 

Silva would beat Bj if they were the same weight.

[e_r_i_k]

You mean If BJ magically became a true 185 pound fighter? Then yea it would be a hell of a fight' date=' a true tactical standup battle. Bj's chin is awesome and we would get to see just how awesome it is.[/quote']

 

why would he have to become a true 185 pounder?

im sure it would be bad **** if he was a small 185,or even stayed at 155

 

with BJ's skills,the only reason he'd need to add weight to fight ANYONE,is to get the athletic commission to approve the fight

 

he's been taking guys in the forever stacked LW division and ran through everyone of them

i didnt even think BJ was human till the GSP fight

he never bleeds,gets swollen eyes...its weird

 

i think he could pick anderson silva apart and win

 

but then again,silva could easily pick BJ apart too

this is a fight i'd LOVE to see

[e_r_i_k]

No way. BJ got schooled by GSP. He is one of the best PNP but so is Silva. He could never fight Silva. Thats ridiculous.

 

for all you know...anderson would school GSP even worse so thats irrelevant

i could see GSP shooting in for the takedown only to jump right into a knee to the face

 

and please name one person anderson silva has fought who has world class striking?

it seems he always gets world class grapplers,and anderson never tries to take it to the ground

same as in his next title defense

went from a world class striker,to the best submission guy in mma

 

this fight is gonna be like the leites fight,only maia will be more willing to engage them thales was...i hope at least

[VaKev]

Silva would destroy the smaller guy standing up. This would be a brutal fight and end quickly. Bj would get beaten to the punch and wind up eating knees if he tried to grapple.

 

There may be 185 guys BJ could beat, Silva isn't one of them.

[Dmtl]

Guys this is about what would happen if BJ (AT MW weight and in shape) vs. A.Silva would be please don't be sidetracked by trolls.

 

I actually made this thread because I started thinking about it and searched if there was a thread about it.

 

I think this would be an intrigueing match up of skill and one that definetly would make you wonder.

[Sick00]

With Silva's reach I'm not sure how BJ would close the distance. Silva's kicks would break Penn down and BJ is the perfect height to eat those knees.

[Dmtl]

With Silva's reach I'm not sure how BJ would close the distance. Silva's kicks would break Penn down and BJ is the perfect height to eat those knees.

 

Silva is only 6'1 I think and BJ is 5'9 that's only 4 inch height difference.

[Sick00]

Silva is only 6'1 I think and BJ is 5'9 that's only 4 inch height difference.

 

So is Rich and we all know how that ended. Once Silva gets those long limbs around you its goodnight,

[Dmtl]

So is Rich and we all know how that ended. Once Silva gets those long limbs around you its goodnight' date='[/quote']

 

I am not debating that.

 

Personally GSP/Penn and Penn/Silva appeal to me alot more than GSP/Silva

 

Yes I know Penn/GSP already happened 2x.

 

Remember people I hate BJ Penn as a person but respect his skill. That's why I bring up this match up.

 

Silva has reach advantage and his kicks. Besides that I don't see a clear cut advantage for Silva.

[Sick00]

If BJ was able to build up his body and stack muscle onto that frame, I'd love to see him get another shot at GSP at some point, although I'm not sure what GSP could gain from that fight.

[Dmtl]

If BJ was able to build up his body and stack muscle onto that frame' date=' I'd love to see him get another shot at GSP at some point, although I'm not sure what GSP could gain from that fight.[/quote']

 

Please stay on topic, Penn/Silva.

[0verrated]

I am not debating that.

 

Personally GSP/Penn and Penn/Silva appeal to me alot more than GSP/Silva

 

Yes I know Penn/GSP already happened 2x.

 

Remember people I hate BJ Penn as a person but respect his skill. That's why I bring up this match up.

 

Silva has reach advantage and his kicks. Besides that I don't see a clear cut advantage for Silva.

 

If Bj was 185 ripped and lean he would still lose. Not just because Anderson has a longer reach and insane kicks and knees, but simply because he is a better fighter. I know Bj is skilled and the best lw in the world, BUT he is not on the same skill level as Silva! Silva makes good fighters look bad.

 

Anderson is in a league of his own. I think he would easily beat GSP and Machida.

[Sick00]

I am not debating that.

 

Personally GSP/Penn and Penn/Silva appeal to me alot more than GSP/Silva

 

Yes I know Penn/GSP already happened 2x.

 

Remember people I hate BJ Penn as a person but respect his skill. That's why I bring up this match up.

 

Silva has reach advantage and his kicks. Besides that I don't see a clear cut advantage for Silva.

 

Silva's muay thai is greather than BJ's boxing. When Silva uses leg kicks, head kicks, body kicks, knees in the clinch, flying scissor knees, elbows and punches I can't see BJ handling all of that. IMO Silva has a big advantage in the striking.

[0verrated]

Silva's muay thai is greather than BJ's boxing. When Silva uses leg kicks' date=' head kicks, body kicks, knees in the clinch, flying scissor knees, elbows and punches I can't see BJ handling all of that. IMO Silva has a big advantage in the striking.[/quote']

 

For sure! Anderson's mauy thai trumps Bj's boxing by a mile. Not even close.

 

Bj would get smashed. Easily

[HHS777]

For sure! Anderson's mauy thai trumps Bj's boxing by a mile. Not even close.

 

Bj would get smashed. Easily

 

some ones on the a silva band wagon .

if bj was a natural 185er he would be bigger taller and have longer reach.

are u kidding me a silva a counter striker bj wouldnt be tricked into a awful exchange bjs boxing kills anderson silvas muay thai the reach is all that makes it great get rid of that what does he have? plus how good his his chin huh ? an bj ground game far surpasses silvas. anderson silvas way over hyped an i think sonnen is gonna pound him out btw travis lutter took him down an got mound had your boy looking like a fish out of water bj would easily beat him on the ground silvas wreslting is horrible.

[Ryno0108]

If bj was a natural 185'er(meaning taller,with longer reach) then I think it would make a crazy fight.. BJ has that crazy flying knee,insane bjj, and great boxing so the talent to beat silva is deffenitely there..

But IMO the same could b said about gsp..if he was a natural 185'er he cauld possibly beat Silva also..

[Dmtl]

TBH I see BJ's biggest flaw is his lacks of kicks, if he coul pick up kick boxing to complement his boxing I think it would even it out abit more. That being said A.Silva is mostly a counter striker which also being the champ means it's up to the opponent to bring the fight. So in that I also see BJ at the disadvantage.

 

Now if BJ added wrestling to his repertoire as well, that could probably tip the balance in his favour.

[p4pbest86]

why would he have to become a true 185 pounder?

im sure it would be bad **** if he was a small 185' date='or even stayed at 155

 

with BJ's skills,the only reason he'd need to add weight to fight ANYONE,is to get the athletic commission to approve the fight

 

he's been taking guys in the forever stacked LW division and ran through everyone of them

i didnt even think BJ was human till the GSP fight

he never bleeds,gets swollen eyes...its weird

 

i think he could pick anderson silva apart and win

 

but then again,silva could easily pick BJ apart too

this is a fight i'd LOVE to see[/quote']

 

first of all Anderson has 30 pounds on BJ and has moved up to 205 and taken apart the fighters he has fought. I'm a huge BJ fan but seriously? this is a dumb thread BJ would never put on the weight to go up to 185 and Anderson would move up to 205 not down. If your unstoppable at your weight you don't drop weight so why would silva? GSP destroyed BJ when he went up to 170 anyone who thinks that BJ Penn could even compete with Anderson is a retard

[Dmtl]

first of all Anderson has 30 pounds on BJ and has moved up to 205 and taken apart the fighters he has fought. I'm a huge BJ fan but seriously? this is a dumb thread BJ would never put on the weight to go up to 185 and Anderson would move up to 205 not down. If your unstoppable at your weight you don't drop weight so why would silva? GSP destroyed BJ when he went up to 170 anyone who thinks that BJ Penn could even compete with Anderson is a retard

 

HUH no one is talking about BJ putting on weight. Read the thread before posting please.

 

I stated if BJ was in-shape at MW proper and everything how do you think this match up would be.

 

I NEVER anywhere did I say BJ should move up and fight A.Silva.

[e_r_i_k]

first of all Anderson has 30 pounds on BJ and has moved up to 205 and taken apart the fighters he has fought. I'm a huge BJ fan but seriously? this is a dumb thread BJ would never put on the weight to go up to 185 and Anderson would move up to 205 not down. If your unstoppable at your weight you don't drop weight so why would silva? GSP destroyed BJ when he went up to 170 anyone who thinks that BJ Penn could even compete with Anderson is a retard

 

has anderson picked apart any LHW's anywhere near BJ's skill level and fighting smarts?

he fought james irvin and forrest griffin who to me is one of the worst technical strikers in MMA and was trying to run forward and throw sloppy jabs

 

how has who he's fought at LHW have anything to do with BJ penn

 

oh n by the way

BJ fought lyoto machida at like 195 pounds

im sure makin 185 wouldnt be that difficult

[Dmtl]

e_r_i_k please ignore the troll

[e_r_i_k]

TBH I see BJ's biggest flaw is his lacks of kicks' date=' if he coul pick up kick boxing to complement his boxing I think it would even it out abit more. That being said A.Silva is mostly a counter striker which also being the champ means it's up to the opponent to bring the fight. So in that I also see BJ at the disadvantage.

 

Now if BJ added wrestling to his repertoire as well, that could probably tip the balance in his favour.[/quote']

 

his kicks?

didnt u see the kick he landed thats gonna leave a scar on diego sanchez's forehead till he dies?

 

i really think BJ could win this fight

he isnt stupid like forrest griffin and wouldnt keep walking forward trying to punch if he was hitting nothing but air everytime he swang

 

people should remember,fighting is partly about skill,partly about using your brain

 

thats why some fights are refered to as a chess match

 

and i think BJ would be screaming "checkmate" by no latter then round 4

[Dmtl]

his kicks?

didnt u see the kick he landed thats gonna leave a scar on diego sanchez's forehead till he dies?

 

i really think BJ could win this fight

he isnt stupid like forrest griffin and wouldnt keep walking forward trying to punch if he was hitting nothing but air everytime he swang

 

people should remember' date='fighting is partly about skill,partly about using your brain

 

thats why some fights are refered to as a chess match

 

and i think BJ would be screaming "checkmate" by no latter then round 4[/quote']

 

BJ's kicks are horrible. So he caught Sanchez with one does not make it anything special.

[Tjc81]

Would be a good fight to see,I doubt Penn would be able to gain an advantage in either the stand up or on the ground though. Silva's reach and speed combined would overwhelm Penn.

[HAD0K3N]

Anderson would take him hands down everytime...