Rob_Lazarus Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 Being relaxed in the cage can be a good thing but he just looked like he had no energy. He wasn't moving very much and Sakara was clocking him at will. Do you think he was maybe feeling the weight cut? Personally I can't believe he cut to 185 that is definitely not his natural weight. I'd like to see him stay at 205. Also..."I can't open my ****ing eye...I CAN'T OPEN MY ****ING EYE" LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uaquin Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 The weight cut did him in IMO. You look at Irvin at 205 and he had not an ouch of fat on him. 185 was just ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milleboss Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 IMO Irvin just doesnt have what it takes to become a top 10 fighter in either 205 or 185... But sizewise, he has a better chance to be competitive in 185 rather than 205. He is in my opinion just not a good enough fighter to stand and trade with the top fighters in the UFC. has a very limited bag of tricks and in other matches i have watched him fight he usually gasses pretty fast. But we all know not everybody can be a superstar, every orginisation needs a few middle to low level fighters as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthWest Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 the real question is does he get cut now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Lazarus Posted March 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 The weight cut did him in IMO. You look at Irvin at 205 and he had not an ouch of fat on him. 185 was just ugly. Yeah pretty gross. He was so cut up at 185. IMO Irvin just doesnt have what it takes to become a top 10 fighter in either 205 or 185... But sizewise' date=' he has a better chance to be competitive in 185 rather than 205. He is in my opinion just not a good enough fighter to stand and trade with the top fighters in the UFC. has a very limited bag of tricks and in other matches i have watched him fight he usually gasses pretty fast. But we all know not everybody can be a superstar, every orginisation needs a few middle to low level fighters as well.[/quote'] I think he can improve though. I don't know why but I feel like he has potential with his mindset and attitude. With good coaching and some serious revamping I think he could really be a contender. He needs to stop always looking for that one punch knockout and let it come naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbDeanFan Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 Yeah he looked flat footed while standing right in front of Sakarra. I would attribute it to the cut and ring rust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berghausen Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 Yup, ringrust combined with his most draining cut ever made him look terrible. He will never fight at MW again, dude looked huge at LHW, not sure why he felt the need to go lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturally4real Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 Yeah, Irvin looked really sluggish in his fight. Really did not look like himself. Although it seems that the A. Silva fight may have done him in mentally. Somebody posted an article last week some time that had an interview with Irvin and his confidence sounds to be very low. If his attitude was the same going into this fight (with Sakura) as it was when he had that interview it is no wonder he looked the way he did. Until he get back to at least close to 100% mentally he should stay out of the fight game until he does get it back mentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dublin_huntington Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 the real question is does he get cut now? I hope not, sure he lost two in a row... but the first one was A.Silva, a fight he took after for other lhw's turned it down.. and the last fight at 185 was a mistake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uaquin Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 I think he will get at least one more fight at LHW before he gets cut. That was his first fight after a long lay off and at a weight class that is just to low for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleisterfiend Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 I thought Irvin looked terrible at the weigh in. His face especially just looked really sunk in. He looked a little better at the fight after he was hydrated but not much. He should really be at 205. I can't imagine that weight cut not hurting him. He didn't have hardly any body fat at 205. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtp Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 When I found out he was cutting to 185 and fighting in Colorado, I knew there was no chance in him winning the fight unless he caught Sakara wicked early. Too bad for Irvin. The cut definatley killed him more though. After he weighed in he immediatley downed a liter of Electrolytes and Hydrants. He was hurting for sure. Good thing Dana said he wouldnt give Irvin another fight at 185. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRearNaked Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 He seemed too slow for 185. He tried to hit sakara but missed mostly everytime and sakara landed almost everytime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceMcCluskey Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 I saw a post fight interview with Dana and he said Irvin will not fight at 185 ever again in the UFC. He also said that he was a huge fan of Irvin's, so maybe one more at 205 to save face. http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/UFC-postfight-Officials-screw-up-in-Buentello-f;_ylt=AgoZXT__NARkZXJNmvn33z49Eo14?urn=mma,229373 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAMBA24ILL Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 What was his reason for dropping down in weight? He looked like he was circling in sand, very sluggish. Honestly, i think the eye poke was a blessing cause he was gonna get put to sleep or hurt worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwillin87 Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 if you seen irvin at the way in, you will know why he got wrecked...... i litterally almost threw up in my mouth just lookin at his sunk in body and his face. he looked like he had been up for 2 weeks boofing ice!!!!! he has to go back to 205. rogan even mention how bad he looked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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