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Who agrees?

 

I think it is highly likely that we will find a way to kill ourselves off within the next 200 years, and I think that is being optimistic. In reality I would be shocked to find that we survive with the same standards of living past 100 years.

 

People refuse to stop being so heavily reliant on fossil fuels because of greed/money.

People refuse to stop having 4,5 or more kids per couple.

People refuse to alter their diets so that we have a more sustainable food source.

 

It's just crazy.

 

Populations growing at an exponential rate.

More cars on the road.

We cut down trees that help process the pollution from these cars etc. at a faster and faster rate because there are so many more people being born.

 

On top of things like that we have terrorists...and to me it is only a matter of time before one religious nut or another gets ahold of a WMD.

 

We're doomed...thanks to ignorance.

 

People voting against their own interests in the healthcare debate is a perfect example of the stupidity of human beings...and a perfect representation of the kind of mentality that will eventually kill us all off.

 

****ing stupid people.

 

Thoughts?

 

Cheers

 

-DR

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I doubt this, coz as you can see Medical Experts are finding new or much improve cure for some disease/illness which 100 years ago are considered uncurable, for me that's the most important thing that we can say people of today will live longer than those of yesterday.

People of today are also becoming conscious about their health, I think people of today smoke less than those people of the 70's.

The world are also on alternative energy as of now, more and more are using Solar and Wind energy, this would lessen the world's consumption on fuel.

Some of the cars now are hybrid so no problem even if the numbers multiply quickly.

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Who agrees?

 

I think it is highly likely that we will find a way to kill ourselves off within the next 200 years' date=' and I think that is being optimistic. In reality I would be shocked to find that we survive with the same standards of living past 100 years.

 

People refuse to stop being so heavily reliant on fossil fuels because of greed/money.

People refuse to stop having 4,5 or more kids per couple.

People refuse to alter their diets so that we have a more sustainable food source.

 

It's just crazy.

 

[b']Populations growing at an exponential rate.[/b]

More cars on the road.

We cut down trees that help process the pollution from these cars etc. at a faster and faster rate because there are so many more people being born.

 

On top of things like that we have terrorists...and to me it is only a matter of time before one religious nut or another gets ahold of a WMD.

 

We're doomed...thanks to ignorance.

 

People voting against their own interests in the healthcare debate is a perfect example of the stupidity of human beings...and a perfect representation of the kind of mentality that will eventually kill us all off.

 

****ing stupid people.

 

Thoughts?

 

Cheers

 

-DR

 

Ok i agree with almost everything but that part about population growing at an exponential rate. Its called Demographics my man. The US currently sits at zero, that is for 2 parents theres 2 kids.

 

However where there is huge populations growing crazily..... I'll let you guess....

 

...

.

...

...

Got it yet?

 

ARABS lol. Oh noes! They have a huge plus sum of babies per adult influx. Sit on that idea for awhile and think about what it could mean for the future of the world. And im not talking an abundance of these babies in the Middle East. They are everywhere.

 

Italy is decreasing

Russia is getting destroyed by aids almost as fast as Africa.

Africa obviously is in bad shape

UK decreasing

France decreasing etc etc etc.

 

And your comment where you said people voting against there own interests in healthcare debate PROVES that your the ignorant one.

 

Cheers!

 

EDIT: All my information about demographics comes from a book called America Alone... Its a good one. And yes i like to read books for information not just come up with some random **** the news showed me. ;)

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Who agrees?

 

I think it is highly likely that we will find a way to kill ourselves off within the next 200 years' date=' and I think that is being optimistic. In reality I would be shocked to find that we survive with the same standards of living past 100 years.

 

People refuse to stop being so heavily reliant on fossil fuels because of greed/money.

People refuse to stop having 4,5 or more kids per couple.

People refuse to alter their diets so that we have a more sustainable food source.

 

It's just crazy.

 

Populations growing at an exponential rate.

More cars on the road.

We cut down trees that help process the pollution from these cars etc. at a faster and faster rate because there are so many more people being born.

 

On top of things like that we have terrorists...and to me it is only a matter of time before one religious nut or another gets ahold of a WMD.

 

We're doomed...thanks to ignorance.

 

[b']People voting against their own interests in the healthcare debate[/b] is a perfect example of the stupidity of human beings...and a perfect representation of the kind of mentality that will eventually kill us all off.

 

****ing stupid people.

 

Thoughts?

 

Cheers

 

-DR

 

 

 

I agree with everything that you wrote except for what I have bolded. If you think that Americas previous healthcare system was good then your an extremely ignorant individual.

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I agree with everything that you wrote except for what I have bolded. If you think that Americas previous healthcare system was good then your an extremely ignorant individual.

 

Health care was fine, we have the best doctors in the World all coming over here to practice, why? because they can charge up the yingyang if they want, well they can't anymore, everything will be regulated and the quality of health care will severely suffer...what should have happened is Insurance companies should have been regulated so the can't have power over all aspects i.e. prescriptions and medical procedures...they are the reason people can't afford proper health care, because they charge ridiculous amounts for these things

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I agree with everything that you wrote except for what I have bolded. If you think that Americas previous healthcare system was good then your an extremely ignorant individual.

 

*chuckle*

 

Oh no. You misunderstood. I think what we had/have was/is abhorrent. When I talk about people voting against their own interest I'm referring to the millions in this country who think that a public option or a single payer system is somehow evil and bad.

 

The conservatives, republicans and Limbaughs of the US have convinced the ignorant hicks that "Big Government" is out to get them.

 

And you are right..if I believed our private FOR PROFIT system of health care in the US was good than I would be extremely ignorant.

 

I don't think health coverage should be a for profit proposition, and I also think this new legislation isn't good enough. I just hope some day we'll have a single payer system.

 

Some people seriously shouldn't be allowed to vote or procreate. The only problem there...is once you start down that path..the WRONG people start using that power to deny people to vote and procreate.

 

Cheers sir

 

-DR

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Health care was fine' date=' we have the best doctors in the World all coming over here to practice, why? because they can charge up the yingyang if they want, well they can't anymore, everything will be regulated and the quality of health care will severely suffer...what should have happened is Insurance companies should have been regulated so the can't have power over all aspects i.e. prescriptions and medical procedures...they are the reason people can't afford proper health care, because they charge ridiculous amounts for these things[/quote']

 

 

Having the best doctors doesnt make our healthcare SYSTEM good. Whats the point in having a good healthcare system when only half or less of americas population can afford to benifit from it? The standard procedures in regards to patient treatment are already in place, and future doctors will be receiving the same schooling that they always have had.

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*chuckle*

 

Oh no. You misunderstood. I think what we had/have was/is abhorrent. When I talk about people voting against their own interest I'm referring to the millions in this country who think that a public option or a single payer system is somehow evil and bad.

 

The conservatives' date=' republicans and Limbaughs of the US have convinced the ignorant hicks that "Big Government" is out to get them.

 

And you are right..if I believed our private FOR PROFIT system of health care in the US was good than I would be extremely ignorant.

 

I don't think health coverage should be a for profit proposition, and I also think this new legislation isn't good enough. I just hope some day we'll have a single payer system.

 

Some people seriously shouldn't be allowed to vote or procreate. The only problem there...is once you start down that path..the WRONG people start using that power to deny people to vote and procreate.

 

Cheers sir

 

-DR[/quote']

 

Yes, then I REALLY misunderstood you. Sorry, and thanks for the clarification!

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Ok i agree with almost everything but that part about population growing at an exponential rate. Its called Demographics my man. The US currently sits at zero' date=' that is for 2 parents theres 2 kids.

 

However where there is huge populations growing crazily..... I'll let you guess....

 

...

.

...

...

Got it yet?

 

ARABS lol. Oh noes! They have a huge plus sum of babies per adult influx. Sit on that idea for awhile and think about what it could mean for the future of the world. And im not talking an abundance of these babies in the Middle East. They are everywhere.

 

Italy is decreasing

Russia is getting destroyed by aids almost as fast as Africa.

Africa obviously is in bad shape

UK decreasing

France decreasing etc etc etc.

 

And your comment where you said people voting against there own interests in healthcare debate PROVES that your the ignorant one.

 

Cheers!

 

EDIT: All my information about demographics comes from a book called America Alone... Its a good one. And yes i like to read books for information not just come up with some random **** the news showed me. ;)[/quote']

 

Population IS growing at an exponential rate.

 

Let me make this easier for you okay.

 

There are more *****' and ******'s on the planet NOW than there were 50 years ago.

 

Exponential means change of the RATE OF CHANGE.

 

Because there are more "baby making devices"...there are more babies being born every day now than there was 100 years ago. Health care is getting better..so people are living longer and longer...babies born have higher survival rates now than 100 years ago...

 

Population isn't a US problem it's a GLOBAL problem. Too many children born ANYWHERE is a bad thing and detrimental to our odds of continued survival.

 

As for my stance on health care....care to elaborate on how that makes me ignorant?

 

Cheers

 

-DR

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Having the best doctors doesnt make our healthcare SYSTEM good. Whats the point in having a good healthcare system when only half or less of americas population can afford to benifit from it? The standard procedures in regards to patient treatment are already in place' date=' and future doctors will be receiving the same schooling that they always have had.[/quote']

 

exactly,**** the american health care system,i personally have a job that offers it but cant afford to cover me and my old lady.i could cover me but i refuse to have coverage if she cant,then if u got coverage you cant afford the deductibles anyway.it's bull-s-i-.

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Population IS growing at an exponential rate.

 

Let me make this easier for you okay.

 

There are more *****' and ******'s on the planet NOW than there were 50 years ago.

 

Exponential means change of the RATE OF CHANGE.

 

Because there are more "baby making devices"...there are more babies being born every day now than there was 100 years ago. Health care is getting better..so people are living longer and longer...babies born have higher survival rates now than 100 years ago...

 

Population isn't a US problem it's a GLOBAL problem. Too many children born ANYWHERE is a bad thing and detrimental to our odds of continued survival.

 

As for my stance on health care....care to elaborate on how that makes me ignorant?

 

Cheers

 

-DR

 

 

He either simply misunderstood you like I did, or he himself is the ignorant one.

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exactly' date='**** the american health care system,i personally have a job that offers it but cant afford to cover me and my old lady.i could cover me but i refuse to have coverage if she cant,then if u got coverage you cant afford the deductibles anyway.it's bull-s-i-.[/quote']

 

Yeah. It's incredible how many people will believe total lies.

 

The fact is single payer healthcare is the most efficient and comprehensive way to deliver health care to a population.

 

But single payer means an end to BILLIONS in profits for private insurance.

 

Politicians get a piece of that profit...so they vote against REAL reform...and they go out to their "town hall" meetings and lie to the people and scare them so that your average person is afraid of a single payer system...this way the politicians get to continue to profit off of greed and death.

 

We need a system like France/Canada/Japan/Sweden/Spain/Cuba/England....etc...

 

Cheers

 

-DR

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I definitely agree the world is screwed, population is getting out of control, the amount of pollution is absolutely ridiculous and nobody seems to really give a ****. We will kill the earth with our stupidity or someone in north korea will fart and that will set off a chain reaction of nukes being launched worldwide. Or Iran will get nukes and that will be that.

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thread fail.

 

Ahhh...what a relevant and enlightening contribution to this discussion.

 

Really kid...go learn. Seriously. The future of our species is in serious jeopardy...if you don't know about it yet..that's one thing...but simply because YOU don't understand something does not mean others should not be free to discuss it.

 

Cheers

 

-DR

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Population IS growing at an exponential rate.

 

Let me make this easier for you okay.

 

There are more *****' and ******'s on the planet NOW than there were 50 years ago.

 

Exponential means change of the RATE OF CHANGE.

 

Because there are more "baby making devices"...there are more babies being born every day now than there was 100 years ago. Health care is getting better..so people are living longer and longer...babies born have higher survival rates now than 100 years ago...

 

Population isn't a US problem it's a GLOBAL problem. Too many children born ANYWHERE is a bad thing and detrimental to our odds of continued survival.

 

As for my stance on health care....care to elaborate on how that makes me ignorant?

 

Cheers

 

-DR

 

Your wrong about populations im not even gonna argue with you. Go to a book store' date=' grab the book America Alone and read it. Enough said about that.

 

[i']EDIT: I didnt read your post right, but yes populations anywhere is a bad thing. But you talk like its America ****ing us into the mess. I apologize, if you meant the world i agree. [/i]

 

Your ignorant on your stance with Health Care because you think your idea of govt run health care is more right then private health care. If you honestly think we can afford something of this magnitude your nuts. Ive already explained the whole thing in another thread so im not gonna waste my time here.

 

I'm not against providing health care for people. Im not for people dying... but i want you to understand this tiny simple point...

 

You CAN NOT measure the intent of something, WITHOUT first measuring the result. We are broke, China owns us and we are about to spend more money.... MORE MONEY.

 

TO quote myself from another post...

 

"Just one last point here since so many people like to call this kind of thought, close minded, unintellectual blah blah blah, all craaaaap....

 

History is crystal clear to the facts. Nothing has ever stood close to the freedoms and prosperity that is granted under FREE MARKET capitalism. The US did not kick **** and take names because of socialism. Edison didnt invent the light bulb because of a govt order, Ben Franklin didnt start the first printing press because of a govt bearucracy, Apple didnt invent the ipod because of a govt grant. Freedom is what gave them the ability to do that. Capitalism didnt fail, regulation failed. Regulation was behind all the problems.

 

What is greed? Do you honestly believe that Obama isnt greedy? Do you think he picked his cabinet for the virtue of the people? Negative. Someone stated that human nature is why capitalism works and its true. There are NO angels that could run this govt. Everyone of us can admit POLITICIANS SUCK, yet we trust them with something as precius as Health Care?"

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thread fail.

 

 

 

Vasile enters thread. He sees that there is a discussion going on about the healthcare system, and has nothing intelligent add.

 

My point is that you are the only one to write this, and several others have been adding their thoughts for a while now without and 'FAILs' coming up.

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I believe the next 50 years will decided whether or not humans will survive or not. If we keep on waring with each other, I believe we will not make it. Thermonuclear weapons and biological warfare are all easy ways to extinct are selves. The radiation from nuclear weapons are horrible and can travel for miles in any direction the wind takes it. With more and more countries getting a hold of weapons of mass destruction the odds of them being used goes up up and away.

 

We may have made great advances in medicine but we have made even greater leaps in weapons. Mark my words in 50 years time we will either destroy ourselves or make peace and become one nation around the world.

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I definitely agree the world is screwed' date=' population is getting out of control, the amount of pollution is absolutely ridiculous and nobody seems to really give a ****. We will kill the earth with our stupidity or someone in north korea will fart and that will set off a chain reaction of nukes being launched worldwide. Or Iran will get nukes and that will be that.[/quote']

 

In a nutshell...this is it.

 

More population...less food...over-fishing the oceans....rampant pollution...dwindling energy resources...religious extremists....nuclear weapons..

 

I think we're ****ed personally.

 

And whenever you see million of people out there who ACTUALLY BELIEVE that Obama is a secret muslim..and that single payer health care is some evil take over...and a path to the stripping of freedoms..

 

That's all it takes to know we're done.

 

If people cannot understand basic concepts and truths....like..Obama being a natural born citizen...there is NO WAY...we're going to stop having too many children...cease using fossil fuels...and stop going to war.

 

Cheers sir

 

-DR

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Your wrong about populations im not even gonna argue with you. Go to a book store' date=' grab the book America Alone and read it[/b']. Enough said about that.

 

Your ignorant on your stance with Health Care because you think your idea of govt run health care is more right then private health care. If you honestly think we can afford something of this magnitude your nuts. Ive already explained the whole thing in another thread so im not gonna waste my time here.

 

I'm not against providing health care for people. Im not for people dying... but i want you to understand this tiny simple point...

 

You CAN NOT measure the intent of something, WITHOUT first measuring the result. We are broke, China owns us and we are about to spend more money.... MORE MONEY.

 

TO quote myself from another post...

 

"Just one last point here since so many people like to call this kind of thought, close minded, unintellectual blah blah blah, all craaaaap....

 

History is crystal clear to the facts. Nothing has ever stood close to the freedoms and prosperity that is granted under FREE MARKET capitalism. The US did not kick **** and take names because of socialism. Edison didnt invent the light bulb because of a govt order, Ben Franklin didnt start the first printing press because of a govt bearucracy, Apple didnt invent the ipod because of a govt grant. Freedom is what gave them the ability to do that. Capitalism didnt fail, regulation failed. Regulation was behind all the problems.

 

What is greed? Do you honestly believe that Obama isnt greedy? Do you think he picked his cabinet for the virtue of the people? Negative. Someone stated that human nature is why capitalism works and its true. There are NO angels that could run this govt. Everyone of us can admit POLITICIANS SUCK, yet we trust them with something as precius as Health Care?"

 

 

1. America isnt the only country in the world. Etreme population growth(or exponentional as DR put it) is a world wide problem, because in several of the countries were it is happening, the people eventually move to another country(like America or somewhere in Canada, or Europe).

 

2. Our health care system wasnt working. period. If you have ever visited a country like Germany(Americas new healthcare system plan is similar to that), you would notice that EVERYONE has health care.

Plus one of the points of our new healthcare system is to give people more options for which health care theyd like.

For an example of our old system, just read what Meat_Head posted about his experience with it.

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Your wrong about populations im not even gonna argue with you. Go to a book store' date=' grab the book America Alone and read it. Enough said about that.

 

Your ignorant on your stance with Health Care because you think your idea of govt run health care is more right then private health care. If you honestly think we can afford something of this magnitude your nuts. Ive already explained the whole thing in another thread so im not gonna waste my time here.

 

I'm not against providing health care for people. Im not for people dying... but i want you to understand this tiny simple point...

 

You CAN NOT measure the intent of something, WITHOUT first measuring the result. We are broke, China owns us and we are about to spend more money.... MORE MONEY.

 

TO quote myself from another post...

 

"Just one last point here since so many people like to call this kind of thought, close minded, unintellectual blah blah blah, all craaaaap....

 

History is crystal clear to the facts. Nothing has ever stood close to the freedoms and prosperity that is granted under FREE MARKET capitalism. The US did not kick **** and take names because of socialism. Edison didnt invent the light bulb because of a govt order, Ben Franklin didnt start the first printing press because of a govt bearucracy, Apple didnt invent the ipod because of a govt grant. Freedom is what gave them the ability to do that. Capitalism didnt fail, regulation failed. Regulation was behind all the problems.

 

What is greed? Do you honestly believe that Obama isnt greedy? Do you think he picked his cabinet for the virtue of the people? Negative. Someone stated that human nature is why capitalism works and its true. There are NO angels that could run this govt. Everyone of us can admit POLITICIANS SUCK, yet we trust them with something as precius as Health Care?"[/quote']

 

 

Regarding health care...if you believe that we should have ANY health care you cannot intelligently defend the private for profit system we have now.

 

If we did this THE RIGHT WAY...we would be saving money. Here is what I posted in a previous thread...simple...and to the point...

 

 

Jesus Christ people can be SO goddamn stupid.

 

Okay...for the idiots that cannot seem to grasp a very simple concept.

 

First to the socialism charge.

 

What does private insurance do?

It collects money from a vast group of people...(SOCIALISM SOCIALISM SOCIALISM SOCIALISM!!!) and then..POCKETS SOME OF THE MONEY FOR PROFIT!! (CAPITALISM)....and with the remainder of those SOCIALISTS FUNDS....pays for all or part of the healthcare costs of those who buy in to the program.

 

Note that step there in the middle...POCKETS SOME OF THE MONEY!!!

 

I hope you uneducated fops realize that that money that is pocketed amounts to BILLIONS of dollars.

 

Now let me ask you THIS question.

 

How many MORE PEOPLE could be COVERED if that money was NOT POCKETED and instead used to TREAT PEOPLE???!!!

 

Ahh...you ****ing fools...do you begin to see reality or is Limbaugh's bag still in your way?

 

What is a "single payer system?"

 

It collects money from a vast group of people...(SOCIALISM SOCIALISM SOCIALISM SOCIALISM!!!) and then..pays for all or part of the healthcare costs of those who buy in to the program.

 

 

If you'll note that the two bolded sections of this post are nearly identical...with the exception of one thing...POCKETING OUR MONEY FOR PROFIT!!!

 

So you see..you blind..ignorant sheep.

 

Private insurance..and single payer..are the SAME thing. With the exception of incredibly immoral greed.

 

So as for these claims of "medicare" etc..being bankrupt.

 

IF we took the money ALREADY PAID into private insurance, and used the current PROFITS for TREATMENT, we would cover MILLIONS more people...without spending a single additional cent.

 

You make up for the rest by imposing a general tax, that you pay according to your means. Which ultimately would be a very marginal increase because even the lowest income demographics would contribute something.

 

It's really quite simple, but millions of people have been blinded to the realities of this situation by their own ignorance and intellectual incuriosity.

 

 

You sheep cry "socialism" in one breath while in the next defending the current socialist system. The difference is...one socialist program benefits a handful and the other would benefit ALL.

 

Cheers...go learn something.

 

-DR

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Vasile enters thread. He sees that there is a discussion going on about the healthcare system' date=' and has nothing intelligent add.

 

My point is that you are the only one to write this, and several others have been adding their thoughts for a while now without and 'FAILs' coming up.[/quote']

 

hey i just dont like political stuff my bad. i jsut think politics is silly. unless your acually in the government you shouldnt worry about it

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I agree with everything that you wrote except for what I have bolded. If you think that Americas previous healthcare system was good then your an extremely ignorant individual.

 

You are confusing good with free. Well not free, business owners like myself will be paying for people like you i suppose.

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Who agrees?

 

I think it is highly likely that we will find a way to kill ourselves off within the next 200 years' date=' and I think that is being optimistic. In reality I would be shocked to find that we survive with the same standards of living past 100 years.

 

People refuse to stop being so heavily reliant on fossil fuels because of greed/money.

People refuse to stop having 4,5 or more kids per couple.

People refuse to alter their diets so that we have a more sustainable food source.

 

It's just crazy.

 

Populations growing at an exponential rate.

More cars on the road.

We cut down trees that help process the pollution from these cars etc. at a faster and faster rate because there are so many more people being born.

 

On top of things like that we have terrorists...and to me it is only a matter of time before one religious nut or another gets ahold of a WMD.

 

We're doomed...thanks to ignorance.

 

People voting against their own interests in the healthcare debate is a perfect example of the stupidity of human beings...and a perfect representation of the kind of mentality that will eventually kill us all off.

 

****ing stupid people.

 

Thoughts?

 

Cheers

 

-DR[/quote']

haha no Humans are very adaptable, we are going to be around till the end of the world wether it be a population of 10 billion or 10 million. we will still be alive. plus the whole global warming arguement is total bull, with the release of climategate and Al gores Constant running away from a Debate with Monkton. plus from your Arguement it seems you really dont like the Human race or Technology. maybe you should go live in the Forest if you love it so much?

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Ok i agree with almost everything but that part about population growing at an exponential rate. Its called Demographics my man. The US currently sits at zero' date=' that is for 2 parents theres 2 kids.

 

However where there is huge populations growing crazily..... I'll let you guess....

 

...

.

...

...

Got it yet?

 

ARABS lol. Oh noes! They have a huge plus sum of babies per adult influx. Sit on that idea for awhile and think about what it could mean for the future of the world. And im not talking an abundance of these babies in the Middle East. They are everywhere.

 

Italy is decreasing

Russia is getting destroyed by aids almost as fast as Africa.

Africa obviously is in bad shape

UK decreasing

France decreasing etc etc etc.

 

And your comment where you said people voting against there own interests in healthcare debate PROVES that your the ignorant one.

 

Cheers!

 

EDIT: All my information about demographics comes from a book called America Alone... Its a good one. And yes i like to read books for information not just come up with some random **** the news showed me. ;)[/quote']

 

Demographics don't count for much to be honest. There is 1 child per 2 adults in China and it's the most populated country in the world.

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I just finished a final paper on the Global Water Crisis. In the US, California is really starting to feel the effects this problem, but 1/3 of the world is currently living in water-stressed areas but it is (conservatively) estimated that over 50% of the world population will be subject to water-stressed conditions by 2035. This global water crisis has been described as "a comet heading towards earth without being seen."

 

household conservation and freshwater ecosystem conservation are going to be the two best ways we can find a balance, meaning we can have the amount of water needed for everyday living in a sustainable way.

 

Sandra Postel and her colleges are some of the most respected folks in the field if anyone is interested in learning more. I don't want to be preachy, so I'll end it there.

 

Great discussion topic!

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I doubt this' date=' coz as you can see [b']Medical Experts are finding new or much improve cure for some disease/illness which 100 years ago are considered uncurable[/b], for me that's the most important thing that we can say people of today will live longer than those of yesterday.

People of today are also becoming conscious about their health, I think people of today smoke less than those people of the 70's.

The world are also on alternative energy as of now, more and more are using Solar and Wind energy, this would lessen the world's consumption on fuel.

Some of the cars now are hybrid so no problem even if the numbers multiply quickly.

 

What human infectious disease other than smallpox as been cured to the point of it been eradicated? Yes there are treatments for some diseases, but not cure's as there is no profit in eradicating a disease. Treatments are all well and good but it gives diseases the cance to mutate into stronger variations untill it becomes untreatable.

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I think in the next 200 years one of two things will happen.

 

1) a huge reduction in human population it will be a combination of natural disasters, energy crisis, disease and conflict. a return to more subsistence lifestyles.

 

2) some kind of future utopian society/world gov't develops to help ween us off fossil fuels and mass consumption and survive the effects of natural disasters.

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What human infectious disease other than smallpox as been cured to the point of it been eradicated? Yes there are treatments for some diseases' date=' but not cure's as there is no profit in eradicating a disease. Treatments are all well and good but it gives diseases the cance to mutate into stronger variations untill it becomes untreatable.[/quote']

 

I mean some cancer today are can be cure right, same also for tubercolosis.

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What human infectious disease other than smallpox as been cured to the point of it been eradicated? Yes there are treatments for some diseases' date=' but not cure's as there is no profit in eradicating a disease. Treatments are all well and good but it gives diseases the cance to mutate into stronger variations untill it becomes untreatable.[/quote']

 

this is the problem and people see it. profit can be a perverse incentive. as a society we can change that. we shouldn't be zombies and vampires living off the suffering of others.

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haha no Humans are very adaptable' date=' we are going to be around till the end of the world wether it be a population of 10 billion or 10 million. we will still be alive. plus the whole global warming arguement is total bull, with the release of climategate and Al gores Constant running away from a Debate with Monkton. plus from your Arguement it seems you really dont like the Human race or Technology. maybe you should go live in the Forest if you love it so much?[/quote']

 

I will say that A. Gore is kind of a d-bag, but the evidence of climate change is not up for debate. It is real and it is here. Ask the different cultures from Alaska to Islands near the equator that are having to relocate due to rising sea levels. http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/science/04/24/climate.change.eskimos/index.html

 

To say that climate change is not real is to repeat false, ignorant claims from people that want to remain ignorant of the truth for some reason.

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I think in the next 200 years one of two things will happen.

 

1) a huge reduction in human population it will be a combination of natural disasters' date=' energy crisis, disease and conflict. a return to more subsistence lifestyles.

 

2) some kind of future utopian society/world gov't develops to help ween us off fossil fuels and mass consumption and survive the effects of natural disasters.[/quote']

 

 

#2 = The Venus Project - http://www.thevenusproject.com/

this is actually getting popular, mostly in Europe, but Iceland, since their complete economic collapse, has been inquiring about this "resource-based economy."

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#2 = The Venus Project - http://www.thevenusproject.com/

this is actually getting popular' date=' mostly in Europe, but Iceland, since their complete economic collapse, has been inquiring about this "resource-based economy."[/quote']

 

yeah but the thing is places like sweden, norway, iceland that are implementing these measures are TINY.

 

6 of the biggest countries in the world have to be on board, but currently they arent even close to coming together.

 

China, India, US, Pakistan, Brazil, Indonesia not even close to having a viable plan to move off of fossil fuels. we are still operating as if we have endless resources and there in no evironmental issues.

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yeah but the thing is places like sweden' date=' norway, iceland that are implementing these measures are TINY.

 

6 of the biggest countries in the world have to be on board, but currently they arent even close to coming together.

 

China, India, US, Pakistan, Brazil, Indonesia not even close to having a viable plan to move off of fossil fuels. we are still operating as if we have endless resources and there in no evironmental issues.[/quote']

 

For sure these ideas will not be taken seriously by governments that put profit before people until the entire system collapses. The "resource-based economy" is a long way off. I just like that people are thinking seriously in this direction. I do think this is possible, but not for quite some time.

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this is the problem and people see it. profit can be a perverse incentive. as a society we can change that. we shouldn't be zombies and vampires living off the suffering of others.

 

I just wish more people saw it, alot of people don't but a suppose ignorance is bliss.

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Who agrees?

 

I think it is highly likely that we will find a way to kill ourselves off within the next 200 years' date=' and I think that is being optimistic. In reality I would be shocked to find that we survive with the same standards of living past 100 years.

 

People refuse to stop being so heavily reliant on fossil fuels because of greed/money.

People refuse to stop having 4,5 or more kids per couple.

People refuse to alter their diets so that we have a more sustainable food source.

 

It's just crazy.

 

Populations growing at an exponential rate.

More cars on the road.

We cut down trees that help process the pollution from these cars etc. at a faster and faster rate because there are so many more people being born.

 

On top of things like that we have terrorists...and to me it is only a matter of time before one religious nut or another gets ahold of a WMD.

 

We're doomed...thanks to ignorance.

 

People voting against their own interests in the healthcare debate is a perfect example of the stupidity of human beings...and a perfect representation of the kind of mentality that will eventually kill us all off.

 

****ing stupid people.

 

Thoughts?

 

Cheers

 

-DR[/quote']

 

i doubt it bro...do u know they r implementing population control even in america...ur misinformed bro...thats just an evil thing 2 do...

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We need population control to survive as a species.

 

I think we need to offer incentives for NOT having children...a tax benefit every year after the age of 18 the we remain childless. And we should give incentives to be sterilized as well...say...2000 or something.

 

At the end of the day it costs a hell of alot more to send a child through public school. And that's of course only the monetary benefits.

 

Cheers

 

-DR

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