ricefarmer2 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Both with really similar records, both young and upcoming fighters, both great wrestlers and strikers (amazing well rounded newcomers), and both really strong. This would be a great match for the (weak) UFC 115 fight card! I don't think either is ready for machida yet! They would match up well against each other! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP24 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 It would certainly test Bader's chin! Hehehehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duss Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 I think bader is good but i think Jones is a little bit higher up and needs to get in the mix with some more elite fighters like, Thiago Silva, Lil Nog, maybe loser of rampage/rashad, Forrest i just think hes ready for the next level. Not too count out Bader just think Jones is a little above him in the pecking order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricefarmer2 Posted March 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 jones hasn't fought someone as well rounded as bader. Hamill was just a wrestler who never fought a good mma wrestler (until jones). Bader could stand up and wrestle. Bader was a three-time PAC 10 Champion and two-time D-1 All-American. If you disagree with jones fighting bader, perhaps he should fight... wanderlei silva!!??!! I would love to see that! Silva doesn't back down.. he's a black belt in jiu jitsu, but you don't see that much. The dude loves to stand up and brawl! Maybe jones could fight liddell! Liddell has long reach and doesn't stay on the ground if taken down. hahaha.. i didn't expect that last sentence in your reply. I almost choked on my drink. That's some funny sh**. I like anderson silva, but they are giving him a lot of bad match-ups (ex. cote, maia, leites, irvin). Frank Mir is just average. He'll never beat lesnar again! Cain Velasquez is, in my opinion, the next big thing in the heavy weight division. I could see him putting up a good fight for lesnar... but velasquez has to gain lean weight (without losing speed) to fight someone like lesnar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmtl Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 can you please delete your extra posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin27 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Both with really similar records' date=' both young and upcoming fighters, both great wrestlers and strikers (amazing well rounded newcomers), and both really strong. This would be a great match for the (weak) UFC 115 fight card! I don't think either is ready for machida yet! They would match up well against each other![/quote'] This would be an o.k. match, but I wouldn't want to see it. Think about this, Bader had trouble with Jardine. Brandon vera had trouble with Jardine,Vera lost a decision. Vera didn't make it past three minutes in the first round with Jones. Jardine would pose no challenge to Jones. This fight would be a little closer than the Matt Hamil fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crowebar03 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 yeah but the one thing I have learned is that you preety much have to put fights with jardine in a different catagory. The dude has the weirdest style, he put up a good fight against rampage and has defeated liddel and vera. And he has been knocked out so many times. But to be honest I thought hamil was higher up on the foodchain then vera, but it was a main event match so it wasnt a step back for jones. I think bader would be a good match for Jones, neither have been tested both are good wrestlers, bader has heavy hands but jones has long reach and weird strikes.Actually who do you think is a better wrestler between the two, I think they are both really good. bader has a brick chin too and we havent really seen jones get hit yet so who knows. Exciting match for mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteNinja1 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 I personally don't like this match up but that's just me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkBenjamin Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 im actually pretty excited about this cuz both these guys just proved themselves by beating veterans and i think the winner of this will be close to the top of the division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meltrobe Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 i agree ^ this is a miss match jones is in a diffrent league to bader at the moment he should be looking a little higher imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac4719 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 i thing jones should fight Thiago silva, silva's only lost to a champion and former champ a win against him would place him right up there in the mix plus silva loves to bang and jones has some awesome unorthodox strikes make it happen ufc i think this a fight people would be excited to see, baders not a big enough name to bring in the veiwers. PS i cant wait to see Paul Daley ko josh koscheck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJSMAN Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 i thing jones should fight Thiago silva' date=' silva's only lost to a champion and former champ a win against him would place him right up there in the mix plus silva loves to bang and jones has some awesome unorthodox strikes make it happen ufc i think this a fight people would be excited to see, baders not a big enough name to bring in the veiwers.PS i cant wait to see Paul Daley ko josh koscheck[/quote'] Koscheck is going to punish Paul "Gold TEEFEYS", Daley... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meltrobe Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Koscheck is going to punish Paul "Gold TEEFEYS"' date=' Daley...[/quote'] ha ha ok mate keep dreaming semtex gonna knock that wig clean of his head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryKUTFO Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Is he **** mate, cant deny Daley's KO power but Josh is not going to let him bully him like he did his previous opponents. Plus Josh has KO power of his own and in general is a much more well rounded and accomplished fighter with a wealth of experience:) Kos ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jduk Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Is he **** mate' date=' cant deny Daley's KO power but Josh is not going to let him bully him like he did his previous opponents. Plus Josh has KO power of his own and in general is a much more well rounded and accomplished fighter with a wealth of experience:) Kos ftw.[/quote'] daley has 33 pro fights, thats a wealth of experience. he also has 7 title fights in various organisations, kos has 20 fights and no title fights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickTF Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 I'm not interested in this fight at all. I said early in some of the early posts after Jones smashed Vera that Bader won't be much more then the Hamil fight and I don't want to see that. I'll watch it and be interested but i'd be shocked if Bader made it out of the first round conscious. I don't think Vera's a joke and Jones made him look that way. He needs to face a DOMINANT wrestler not just someone who is a wrestler. Couture or Rampage end of story. Top strikers (Machida, Shogun) will pose problems as well. Not sure enough about little Nog yet. Griffen will loose having no advantage in reach against Jones. Silva will be taken down and finished on the ground. I just really think Bader would be a quick quick one round and done fight for the Jones W! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jduk Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 I'm not interested in this fight at all. I said early in some of the early posts after Jones smashed Vera that Bader won't be much more then the Hamil fight and I don't want to see that. I'll watch it and be interested but i'd be shocked if Bader made it out of the first round conscious. I don't think Vera's a joke and Jones made him look that way. He needs to face a DOMINANT wrestler not just someone who is a wrestler. Couture or Rampage end of story. Top strikers (Machida' date=' Shogun) will pose problems as well. Not sure enough about little Nog yet. Griffen will loose having no advantage in reach against Jones. Silva will be taken down and finished on the ground. I just really think Bader would be a quick quick one round and done fight for the Jones W![/quote'] rashad would be a good matchup i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muay_Thai_Leeds Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 You know, Chuck Liddell no longer has an oponent for UFC 115 :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickTF Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 rashad would be a good matchup i think Actually, I could see Evans posing some problems too good call! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muay_Thai_Leeds Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Actually' date=' I could see Evans posing some problems too good call![/quote'] For Bader? Evans is a bit of a step up for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickTF Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 For Bader? Evans is a bit of a step up for him. No, I could see Evans posing problems for Jones given his wrestling ability. Then again I could see him posing problems for Bader as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muay_Thai_Leeds Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 No' date=' I could see Evans posing problems for Jones given his wrestling ability. Then again I could see him posing problems for Bader as well.[/quote'] Jones and Evans wont be fighting each other, they both train under Jackson and they are good friends. I could see Bader vs Evans down the road tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwiftSpear Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 I expect Jones to knock bader out before the first round is over with little effort expired. Bader wouldn't beat Brandon Vera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buccos13 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 I expect Jones to knock bader out before the first round is over with little effort expired. Bader wouldn't beat Brandon Vera. This. Jones would run right through Bader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rup Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 awesome fight! as of right now I got bader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThresherShark17 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Bader would beat Vera, but Jones would most likely destroy Bader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricefarmer2 Posted March 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 i agree ^ this is a miss match jones is in a diffrent league to bader at the moment he should be looking a little higher imo. of course you disagree with this match up. you put paul daley as #4 on your top 10 fighters list... liddell on #8 (but shogun not even on the list), dan hardy as #10 (but st.pierre also not on the list), terry etim?!?! who the f is he?? oh yea.. i remember.. he's the guy that couldn't beat rich clementi. Where's bj penn, st.pierre, shogun, lesnar, fedor?? Your top 10 fighters list is garbage. You really don't know much about mma. I'm surprised you don't have ray mysterio jr. on your list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylamo Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 bones would win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetruth1012 Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 worst matchup ever.. why wud the ufc pitt 2 upncomers against eachother? talk about a fail thread..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denominator Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 I love Bader, but he's nowhere near as fast as Jones, and I think Jones is as strong, if not even stronger then he is. I think Jones would KO him in the 3rd round, if not it would go to the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricefarmer2 Posted April 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 worst matchup ever.. why wud the ufc pitt 2 upncomers against eachother? talk about a fail thread..... hmmm... didn't they put machida and thiago silva against each other.. both undefeated at the time with similar records?!! wow.. talk about someone who doesn't know about mma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMCMMA Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 I think Jones will be a little too quick for Bader, especially in the stand up. If you watch Bader's fights, especially vs Schafer he throws a lot of huge overhand rights. But if he lands one it is lights out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricefarmer2 Posted April 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 This would be an o.k. match' date=' but I wouldn't want to see it. Think about this, Bader had trouble with Jardine. Brandon vera had trouble with Jardine,Vera lost a decision. Vera didn't make it past three minutes in the first round with Jones. Jardine would pose no challenge to Jones. This fight would be a little closer than the Matt Hamil fight.[/quote']it doesn't always work that way. Example: Liddell beat wanderlei.. wanderlei killed jardine... jardine killed liddell! How long have you been watching the ufc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikmania Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 What is up with this? Can anyone confirm this because I know Wikipedia is terrible for MMA... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_116 it says bader vs t. silva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteNinja1 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Bader is having surgery on his knuckle doesn't sound major so he could be right by 116 but they dont really know how long he'll be out. Took em long enough to find out about the injury if they found it sooner he could already be recuperating "Found out today I have to have surgery on my right knuckle to repair a torn tendon that split in half from Jardine fight this thur," Bader wrote on his Twitter page http://www.fiveknuckles.com/mma-news/Ryan-Bader-to-undergo-surgery.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikmania Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Bader is having surgery on his knuckle doesn't sound major so he could be right by 116 but they dont really know how long he'll be out. Took em long enough to find out about the injury if they found it sooner he could already be recuperating "Found out today I have to have surgery on my right knuckle to repair a torn tendon that split in half from Jardine fight this thur' date='" Bader wrote on his Twitter page http://www.fiveknuckles.com/mma-news/Ryan-Bader-to-undergo-surgery.html[/quote'] Yeah I thought I read this and that's why I wanted someone to verify that wiki could be wrong in this instance...gasp... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmarbles1 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 If the wiki of ufc 116 is right it looks like the ufc is pushin bader more then jones... it would b bad buisness if they put bader and jones against each other.. they are both still tryin to establish themselves as big time ufc names.. they each should get at least a top 10 opponent and the only time they should face each other is if it were for the number 1 contender or a title fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan_Jay Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Too soon for these two to fight. They are the future of the LHW division and potentially the HW division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentson Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Jones would destroy Bader. I think they want to build Bader up not wreck him lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwGSP Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 I think Bader is better than people give him credit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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