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So whats the deal with everyone saying that the 3 title fights were boring and/or disappointing.

 

I can see the case for the Aoki/Melendez fight but the other 2 were awesome.

 

Lawal/Mousasi fight: Honestly who the hell thought King Mo would pull that one off. There was constant action imo. Decent strike going back and forth. In the end the underdog pulled through.

 

Henderson/Shields fight: I know some people were giving shields a chance but wow..what a domination after the 1st round. Brilliant recovery for the punch that had to of put his lights out for a second or 2. Another underdog pulling it through when Strikeforce didn't even think hed make it.

 

I just hate the mentality that if all fights aren't finished they aren't good. Bottom line its part of the game and if both fighters are actually fighting and doing their best to put on a show for us its just as good as any other fight that gets finished imo. (depending on the fight)

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If I wanted to see 3 hours of rolling around on the ground with little action and no attempt to finish I'd tune into ESPN's coverage of the NCAA wrestling tournaments. I watch MMA to see actual MMA, not wrestling and people gassing after the 1st round.

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If I wanted to see 3 hours of rolling around on the ground with little action and no attempt to finish I'd tune into ESPN's coverage of the NCAA wrestling tournaments. I watch MMA to see actual MMA' date=' not wrestling and people gassing after the 1st round.[/quote']

 

Like it or not wrestling part of MMA. On top of that there was barely any lay and pray in those fights and the only one in question would be Lawal. But Mousasi made that fight real exciting off his back that was awesome what he was doing even if he was losing the points.

The sheilds fight....Constantly moving ...How many mounts did he get? How many subs did he try? Just because a fighter doesn't get the finish doesn't mean he didn't try.

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If I wanted to see 3 hours of rolling around on the ground with little action and no attempt to finish I'd tune into ESPN's coverage of the NCAA wrestling tournaments. I watch MMA to see actual MMA' date=' not wrestling and people gassing after the 1st round.[/quote']

 

Agreed. The Aoki/Melendez fight was the ONLY decent fight of the three.

 

I could care less if I ever watch Jake Shields "fight" again.

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So whats the deal with everyone saying that the 3 title fights were boring and/or disappointing.

 

I can see the case for the Aoki/Melendez fight but the other 2 were awesome.

 

Lawal/Mousasi fight: Honestly who the hell thought King Mo would pull that one off. There was constant action imo. Decent strike going back and forth. In the end the underdog pulled through.

 

Henderson/Shields fight: I know some people were giving shields a chance but wow..what a domination after the 1st round. Brilliant recovery for the punch that had to of put his lights out for a second or 2. Another underdog pulling it through when Strikeforce didn't even think hed make it.

 

I just hate the mentality that if all fights aren't finished they aren't good. Bottom line its part of the game and if both fighters are actually fighting and doing their best to put on a show for us its just as good as any other fight that gets finished imo. (depending on the fight)

 

I'm sorry, but the only fight that was a domination on the main card was Aoki vs Melendez. Domination is beating your opponent in every way. Making them not want to fight anymore. Winning in there opponents best element. Think BJ vs KenFlo or Joe Daddy. King Mo and Shields were getting destroyed standing and did the smart thing by taking away their opponents gameplan. That's smart but in by no definition of the word is that dominating.

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For as much as they touted this as being an amazing card with three title fights that was gonna put the last two UFC ppv's to shame it was a strong disappointment. This event did more to hurt MMA then advance it. Not only did the boring fights likely turn away the casual fan who tunes in to the televised events, but it did nothing to earn more fans. Also the sillyness at the end, which was likely staged by strikeforce anyway, gives more ammo to those who want it stopped do to the brutality of it. And since there was more boos in the live audience then cheers, i guess I'm not alone in my opinion. I'm not bashing strikeforce or all of the fighters involved, I'm just saying it was a boring event.

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I'm sorry' date=' but the only fight that was a domination on the main card was Aoki vs Melendez. Domination is beating your opponent in every way. Making them not want to fight anymore. Winning in there opponents best element. Think BJ vs KenFlo or Joe Daddy. King Mo and Shields were getting destroyed standing and did the smart thing by taking away their opponents gameplan. That's smart but in by no definition of the word is that dominating.[/quote']

 

And besides the first round Jake Shields didn't do that? By taking it to the ground he took Hendos entire game out.

 

I guess Anderson Silva doesn't dominate anyone either since he decides not to hit the ground with ground fighters.

 

Am i the only one who feels this way about these fights lol. I feel all alone on this one.

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And besides the first round Jake Shields didn't do that? By taking it to the ground he took Hendos entire game out. Am i the only one who feels this way lol. I feel all alone on this one.

 

I guess Anderson Silva doesn't dominate anyone either since he decides not to hit the ground with ground fighters.

 

You don't understand, if it was a domination, he would've been able to keep it standing by the 5th round. What he did was took away Henderson game plan. Nothing wrong with that. It's the smart thing to do. But just not a domination.

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You don't understand' date=' if it was a domination, he would've been able to keep it standing by the 5th round. What he did was took away Henderson game plan. Nothing wrong with that. It's the smart thing to do. But just not a domination.[/quote']

 

But Shields game isn't about standing. Its about hitting the ground. And he dominated on the ground. Hendo did virtually nothing on the ground and since thats where most of the fight was fought....he was dominated.

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You don't understand' date=' if it was a domination, he would've been able to keep it standing by the 5th round. What he did was took away Henderson game plan. Nothing wrong with that. It's the smart thing to do. But just not a domination.[/quote']

 

Ummm.... I'm gonna have to say other than the 1st round, Shields pretty much dominated the fight. I thought it was a good event and I don't understand why people are complaining about it. It was free and it had some great fighters. Don't hate just because it's not UFC

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But Shields game isn't about standing. Its about hitting the ground. And he dominated on the ground. Hendo did virtually nothing on the ground and since thats where most of the fight was fought....he was dominated.

 

It's just my definition of the word. To be dominated means that there is no way you can win. If Hendo was able to stand, he would've been able to knock out Shields. I not saying the fight wasn't one sided. Jake won without ever giving Hendo a chance to get the fight back. Now that I think about it, a domination in the name of the Shields fight would be fair. But not in the King Mo fight.

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It's just my definition of the word. To be dominated means that there is no way you can win. If Hendo was able to stand' date=' he would've been able to knock out Shields. I not saying the fight wasn't one sided. Jake won without ever giving Hendo a chance to get the fight back. Now that I think about it, a domination in the name of the Shields fight would be fair. But not in the King Mo fight.[/quote']

 

Ya def not the King Mo fight =P. Didnt mean to imply that.

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Shields dominated positions, but his 200+ punches combined weren't as damaging as the first right hand that Hendo dropped him with. I am just mystified that Hendo could be punched that many times and not appear in the slightest bit damaged. Shields must hit like a 10 year old girl. Shields took Hendo down and passed guard at will, but was unable to finish despite gaining dominant positions over and over. I give Shields some credit for doing his best to try and finish the fight, but I never felt that he got close. I was more disappointed in Hendo than impressed by Shields.

 

King Mo's performance would have been laughable if Mousasi's wasn't even worse. Neither of these fighters looked like they belonged on a main card, let alone a championship bout. Gassing out in the first round, King Mo's only offense was takedowns, and he was clearly more damaged than Mousasi at the end of the fight.

 

Melendez was the only fighter on the main card that fought like a champion. Despite being extremely one-sided, this was the most entertaining of the 3 bouts. Aoki sure can scoot around the cage on his butt, too bad he didn't train takedowns instead.

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Shields dominated positions' date=' but his 200+ punches combined weren't as damaging as the first right hand that Hendo dropped him with. I am just mystified that Hendo could be punched that many times and not appear in the slightest bit damaged. Shields must hit like a 10 year old girl. Shields took Hendo down and passed guard at will, but was unable to finish despite gaining dominant positions over and over. I give Shields some credit for doing his best to try and finish the fight, but I never felt that he got close. I was more disappointed in Hendo than impressed by Shields.

 

King Mo's performance would have been laughable if Mousasi's wasn't even worse. Neither of these fighters looked like they belonged on a main card, let alone a championship bout. Gassing out in the first round, King Mo's only offense was takedowns, and he was clearly more damaged than Mousasi at the end of the fight.

 

Melendez was the only fighter on the main card that fought like a champion. Despite being extremely one-sided, this was the most entertaining of the 3 bouts. Aoki sure can scoot around the cage on his butt, too bad he didn't train takedowns instead.[/quote']

 

Unlike you I watched the fights.

I'm more than positive Mr. Shields "fought like a champion."

Melendez beats up a guy (standing for the most part) who is a known ground specialist and you consider this "fought like champion."

Shields dominates Hendo on the ground for 4 rounds and he didnt "fought like a champion?"

 

SWALLOW

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I think when a champion punches a man in the face more than 200 times it should leave a mark' date=' that's all.[/quote']

 

Indeed sir, I understand what you are saying.

 

I believe nearly getting KO'd twice in round 1 takes a lot out of a man though.

Not to mention the energy expended wrestling with ole Hendo.

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