drummerman2007 Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 I have been watching MMA for a few years and have always wondered something and would like an opinion from others to help my thinking. I just finished watching the Faber and Aldo fight this isnt the only fight that this works for but the most recent example. When a fighter is clearly losing either 2 rounds of the 3 or 3 of the 5 why do they just not go for broke and give yourself a shot at catching the other fighter. So what if you get knocked out or caught in a submission you were going to lose anyway you have a better shot goin for broke. Is there more respect by going the distance as opposed to getting knocked out or submitted. Maybe its just me but IF I was gettin my @$$ kicked id just go in there swingin now I understand you dont want to look dumb but come on go after and try and get the win. Any opinions are welcome love to hear from those who have been watching for a long time but anybody can offer help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bear413 Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 I felt like I was critiquing a ****ographic video. After the third round, I kept telling Faber that he needs to blow his load and go for broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2007k Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 could be lots of reasons... maybe they are trying new parts of game plans to see if it starts working ... the only way people are gonna beat these great chaps is to try many many things .. hopefully finding holes in their game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummerman2007 Posted April 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 I agree with trying to find holes but Faber was goin to do nothing he didnt have a leg he needed to just go. Another recent fight is Maia and Silva yeah Maia eventually went at him n got a few shots in but didnt keep it up so what if AS would of knocked him out charge n go there was no hole that they were goin to find after such dominations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2007k Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 some of it may have to do with future fights down the road too .. most people dont go back and watch fights ..they check out peoples records and try and base any sort of conclusion off that .. makes the guy look allot better if he went 5 rounds and lost a decision than getting ktfo in round 3 or 4 .. makes more room for excuses too .. easier to excuse a decision than a ko too .. all these guys are business men too .. they are not just fighters whole lot more goes into it than going buck wild looking for a desperate win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummerman2007 Posted April 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 some of it may have to do with future fights down the road too .. most people dont go back and watch fights ..they check out peoples records and try and base any sort of conclusion off that .. makes the guy look allot better if he went 5 rounds and lost a decision than getting ktfo in round 3 or 4 .. makes more room for excuses too .. easier to excuse a decision than a ko too .. all these guys are business men too .. they are not just fighters whole lot more goes into it than going buck wild looking for a desperate win This does make sense especially the business part with a decision fight as opposed to a finish thanks and i dont mind when fights go to decision but mostly for titles that may be your only chance for some fighters so why not just go out and try n get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2007k Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 yeah the old days are pretty much over with go for broke attitude .. i forgot to mention that it helps save their contract too .. less likely to get cut if you drag out the fight than going for broke and coming up short .. chances of you getting the ko over the guy who is dominating you is very slim .. at the end of the day how do you protect your pocket book the most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brent555 Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 In all honesty, it may have been a better career choice for Faber to get KOed instead of taking any more damage to his legs...honestly those kicks were brutal and if they hit correctly on his already weakened knee in the 4th or 5th rounds who is to say it wouldn't do permanent damage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2007k Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 In all honesty' date=' it may have been a better career choice for Faber to get KOed instead of taking any more damage to his legs...honestly those kicks were brutal and if they hit correctly on his already weakened knee in the 4th or 5th rounds who is to say it wouldn't do permanent damage?[/quote'] no it wouldnt .. that dude is tough and will heal just fine .. he has gyms and other buisness agendas around sacramento .. def wouldnt of been good to get KTFO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImTheBest Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 I felt like I was critiquing a ****ographic video. After the third round' date=' I kept telling Faber that he needs to blow his load and go for broke.[/quote'] +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seXXXpac Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 Seriously, though, think about this for a second.. Nobody WANTS to get knocked out!! It's been proven that repeated knockouts will weaken your chin. There's no point in damaging yourself for future fights. Also to consider.. the fact that you may not physically be able to 'go for broke'. In this case, Urijah was completely beaten down. His entire body was weak, and all the strength had been sapped from him. The fact that he was still standing/getting up is a testament to the amount of heart this guy has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImTheBest Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 Seriously' date=' though, think about this for a second..Nobody WANTS to get knocked out!! It's been proven that repeated knockouts will weaken your chin. There's no point in damaging yourself for future fights. Also to consider.. the fact that you may not physically be able to 'go for broke'. In this case, Urijah was completely beaten down. His entire body was weak, and all the strength had been sapped from him. The fact that he was still standing/getting up is a testament to the amount of heart this guy has.[/quote'] could be why gsp is all lay and pray he always talks about his legacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2007k Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 could be why gsp is all lay and pray he always talks about his legacy look at royce gracies ..seemed to work for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImTheBest Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 look at royce gracies ..seemed to work for him this is true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImTheBest Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 and hughes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRIDEneverDIED Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 to answer your question on why Faber didnt go for broke......its because Machida beat Shogun which proves anything can happen in a decision. but foreal props to Aldo he is a bad man i knew it would go to decision like most championship fights, i personally have more respect for a fighter that grinds out a decision or loses to a decision, no one really lost they both just ran out of time. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImTheBest Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 to answer your question on why Faber didnt go for broke......its because Machida beat Shogun which proves anything can happen in a decision. but foreal props to Aldo he is a bad man i knew it would go to decision like most championship fights' date='[b'] i personally have more respect for a fighter that grinds out a decision or loses to a decision, no one really lost they both just ran out of time[/b]. . interesting perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2007k Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 like saying i could have beat Micheal Jordan if i just had more time .. so even though the score was 100 to 0 i just didnt have enough time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRIDEneverDIED Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 like saying i could have beat Micheal Jordan if i just had more time .. so even though the score was 100 to 0 i just didnt have enough time yea your probably not going to be nearly 80 years old when he is you could probably beat him in a game of horse....its only a matter of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meecrob Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 I get the whole "go for broke" thing but these guys are professional fighters why no try to counter or hope the guy beating you makes a mistake and you can capitalize on that. I guess in the last minutes of the 5th round you should but in the fight Faber had nothing left in his legs by then. If he went all out and got caught in the 4th it wouldnt have made this fight any better for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2007k Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 yea your probably not going to be nearly 80 years old when he is you could probably beat him in a game of horse....its only a matter of time. yup his knees have to give out sooner or later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRIDEneverDIED Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 yup his knees have to give out sooner or later at least you understand the concept now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2007k Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 at least you understand the concept now. what ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRIDEneverDIED Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 what ?? if you didnt understand that i would have to type a novel for you to get it and thats not going to happen so ill just say respect the decision dont wait for the KO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2007k Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 if you didnt understand that i would have to type a novel for you to get it and thats not going to happen so ill just say respect the decision dont wait for the KO. sure you dont mean respect the ko and wait for the decision ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRIDEneverDIED Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 sure you dont mean respect the ko and wait for the decision ? positive...a 15 or 25 minute fight is better than any 30 second fight any day, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seXXXpac Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 positive...a 15 or 25 minute fight is better than any 30 second fight any day' date='[/quote'] Agreed. Henderson/Cerrone was extremely anti-climatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2007k Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 positive...a 15 or 25 minute fight is better than any 30 second fight any day' date='[/quote'] i dont know .. id much rather watch a quick KO than say a kimbo vs. houston fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2007k Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 Agreed.Henderson/Cerrone was extremely anti-climatic. stop touching yourself and pay more attention next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRIDEneverDIED Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 i dont know .. id much rather watch a quick KO than say a kimbo vs. houston fight i'd rather watch Oprah than a Kimbo fight but i wont hate ANY fighter for going to a decision atleast he is in the ring not on the key board like us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2007k Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 i'd rather watch Oprah than a Kimbo fight but i wont hate ANY fighter for going to a decision atleast he is in the ring not on the key board like us or octagon ... but i dont even need to train .. i was born pretty bad **** i may not be champion of the streets in my hood .. but im def a gatekeeper ..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichigo Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 I agree with trying to find holes but Faber was goin to do nothing he didnt have a leg he needed to just go. Another recent fight is Maia and Silva yeah Maia eventually went at him n got a few shots in but didnt keep it up so what if AS would of knocked him out charge n go there was no hole that they were goin to find after such dominations its quite funny half way through the Maia Silva disaster Maia was practically asking Silva to ko him haha but in your origonal statement yeah i think alot more people should just go for broke Sorta like the Cant remember the fight Leben vs ?????? Leben outrageously rocked then just swings for the fences and destroys the guy with a single punch that was excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummerman2007 Posted April 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 Thanks Cayne I understand I brought up the Aldo Faber fight but thats just becuase it was the most recent and maybe in respect for Faber his decision might of been a better option. And the person who mentioned getting KOd weakens your chin if it happens a lot thats a great point i didnt think of. But for some of these guys just why not? Garcia and Korean Zombie were goin toe to toe and they didnt have anything left and were still exchanging some serious punches so i dont like the there tired they dont hit as hard these guys are athletes they should be able to KO someone in the 5th just as much in the 1st. Im not asking for a quick finish seeing as im sayin in the 3rd 4th or 5th round they go for the KO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivetonninja Posted April 26, 2010 Report Share Posted April 26, 2010 all I would say is that if you can end the fight end it, if you give your oppnent to much respect you can lose because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMac614 Posted April 26, 2010 Report Share Posted April 26, 2010 I agree with OP 100% I think most of the time, mainly in 5 round fights, the losing fighter is just to worn down (mentally and physically) to really be able to go totally balls to the wall for a KO or Sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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