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I really hope for the sake of you Randy fans that The Natural does not try to stand with Toney for long. Cause I can guarantee you Couture is going to find himself counting sheep while Toney smokes his victory cigar.

 

If Randy's chin is intact when this fight comes around and he can eat a few going into the clinch, I suspect he'll be ok... buuut... I think Randy might get dropped.

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I really hope for the sake of you Randy fans that The Natural does not try to stand with Toney for long. Cause I can guarantee you Couture is going to find himself counting sheep while Toney smokes his victory cigar.

 

If Randy's chin is intact when this fight comes around and he can eat a few going into the clinch' date=' I suspect he'll be ok... buuut... I think Randy might get dropped.[/quote']

 

i agree...no disrespect to nogueira's striking, but he had randy rocked a number of times. i have very little doubt that if toney connects, randy will go out.

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I really hope for the sake of you Randy fans that The Natural does not try to stand with Toney for long. Cause I can guarantee you Couture is going to find himself counting sheep while Toney smokes his victory cigar.

 

If Randy's chin is intact when this fight comes around and he can eat a few going into the clinch' date=' I suspect he'll be ok... buuut... I think Randy might get dropped.[/quote']

 

i agree...no disrespect to nogueira's striking' date=' but he had randy rocked a number of times. i have very little doubt that if toney connects, randy will go out.[/quote']

 

 

 

 

Same here...

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GTFO ' date=' even if your not a randy fan ( which i am not ) you need to support him cause you will be supporting MMA[/quote']

 

reality check. a WWE superstar is your heavyweight champion. deal with it.

 

i'm just being real here.

 

 

if Toney was locked in that cage with Carwin, i'd look at this differently.

 

if Toney was locked in that cage with Mir, i'd look at this differently.

 

but Toney is going to be locked in that cage with a man who's stylistic highlights include "dirty boxing". this is a man who has made a very successful career out of knocking people like Randy out.

 

 

so don't troll me with your holier than thou "M-M-A ALL-THE-WAY" nonsense and accept that someone from a different combat sport might just be able to defeat the fighter that time forgot.

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I absolutly love boxing!...Ive watched it since I was a kid and it is far and away my favorite sport...The stamina, the agility, the gameplans, everything from Mayweather's unbeatable defence all the way to Golden Boy Promotions taken the sport to new heights....I LOVE BOXING!!!!!!!......Having said all that, Couture easily wins this fight....And i mean easily!

 

Randy will put him on his **** and that will be that...You guys are forgetting that Toney is pushing 50 also.

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I really hope for the sake of you Randy fans that The Natural does not try to stand with Toney for long. Cause I can guarantee you Couture is going to find himself counting sheep while Toney smokes his victory cigar.

 

If Randy's chin is intact when this fight comes around and he can eat a few going into the clinch' date=' I suspect he'll be ok... buuut... I think Randy might get dropped.[/quote']

 

If Captain America tries to stand with Toney, I can see this happening, but that would be a horrible game plan. I expect him to take Toney to the ground asap for GnP because how good can Toney's ground game really be?

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This is going to be a boring lopsided fight' date=' where toney ends up pressed aaginst the cage for 95% of the fight.[/quote']

 

If randy has himup against the cage he better be looking for the takedown. If he tries to strike, he will eat uppercuts, from a very heavy puncher

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I think were giving Toney too much credit' date=' I think Couture will win with ease and will probably still trade with him.[/quote']

 

to say randy will win with ease when trading with him is giving randy way too much credit...he may beat him standing up, doubt it tho but if he does it wont be with 'ease'

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yea the OP made alot of good points, you have to give credit where its due and matter of fact is that james toneys boxing is lightyears ahead of randy coutures and everyone else in the UFC and if randy tries to stand up with him and rely on dirty boxing as he has been doing recently then it is very posible he will get KO'd.

 

H/ever if randy can still shoot fast enough to get a take down early in the fight then odds are the fight will be finished fairly quickly. At his age though I'm not sure how much speed he has left in his shots, but lets be honest no one expect james toneys TD defence to be any good.

 

So really if randy stands imo he will get KO'd if he wrestles on the ground then he should get a fairly easy win

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GTFO ' date=' even if your not a randy fan ( which i am not ) you need to support him cause you will be supporting MMA[/quote']

 

Normally I'd agree with you here, but as a huge fan of boxing also, I'd like to see the MMA crowd get brought back to reality about fighting. Was a fan of Toney for most of his career, so I'd like to see him knock The Natural clean out.

 

It's a good matchup either way - washed up boxers get an eye-opener in the ground game, and learn how much they need it as well. Or MMA fanboys will realize what a pro-boxer can do on his feet, and show a little more respect to a legendary sport.

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If Randy stands and trades with James Toney, sure he'll more than likely lose in the exchanges, but KO?

 

James Toney is not a knockout artist. He's one of the greatest boxers of all time, but he's not going to be knocking out top heavyweights. He may TKO some of these guys if he can keep the fight standing and the other guys gets exhausted in the later rounds. He may outpoint somone in the same manner, but no KO's.

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If Randy stands and trades with James Toney' date=' sure he'll more than likely lose in the exchanges, but KO?

 

James Toney is not a knockout artist. He's one of the greatest boxers of all time, but he's not going to be knocking out top heavyweights. He may TKO some of these guys if he can keep the fight standing and the other guys gets exhausted in the later rounds. He may outpoint somone in the same manner, but no KO's.[/quote']

 

 

not a knockout artist? lol.. 72 wins..44 kos...speed may not stay with you as you get older , but most of his power will. and couture isnt the fastest person out there. dirty boxing? toneys short reach will help him stop coutures terrible dirty boxing. and everything like elbows which are ilegal in boxing are legal in mma. couture is done.

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Has anybody actually seen James Toney in an MMA fight? Has he ever been in one? I'm asking because I don't know. I don't know what to expect from him.

 

This will be a replay of Shields/Hendo. I can see Randy doing a Jake Shields and surviving the early storm from Toney, Toney will gas midway through the first round, Randy mounts him the whole fight, but instead of short little pillow fist punches, they will be thunderous Captian America blows that will turn "lights out" lights out.

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not a knockout artist? lol.. 72 wins..44 kos...speed may not stay with you as you get older ' date=' but most of his power will. and couture isnt the fastest person out there. dirty boxing? toneys short reach will help him stop coutures terrible dirty boxing. and everything like elbows which are ilegal in boxing are legal in mma. couture is done.[/quote']

 

Most of those "ko's" on his record are tko's. They abbreviate someone's record when stated. But check out Boxrec.com. He only has a few ko's. But for the one "can" they fed him as a heavyweight, no ko's and one towel thrown in by an 92 year old Evander Holyfield who's already made millions.

 

At heavyweight, Toney doesn't have enough power.

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everyone keeps saying about toneys boxing ability. yes its great but there is vast differences in striking in MMA and boxing. posture, and foot stance are most definitley different. Dana himself has said this many times. in MMA you need to stand prepared for take downs at all times and protect your legs but not in boxing. if toney takes a boxers stance it will let him open for many attacks, to his legs or for take downs. i am not taking anything away from toney, he may train very hard for this, but once the cage closes, and the bell rings and he is taken down or a few good leg kicks are landed his game plan may go right out the window, i think toney makes it clear that he is going to rely on his boxing, and he believes he can "knock anyone out" and i believe this mentality will cost him.

 

I know some will disagree, but for example look at kimbo (not the best example) but he is an amazing striker who had no ground game. he came to the sport relying on his hands, which won him fights, when he fought roy nelson who is a well rounded and seasoned MMA fighter, roy showed how little those strikes were worth against a good wrestler and grappler. I think we will see a repeat of a nelson vs. slice when we watch coutoure vs. toney

 

please dont assume i am in any way comparing toney to kimbo or coutoure to nelson just using the styles as examples of what i see happening

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I think if he connect Randy will go down but he will not go out. Chuck was the only man in the UFC to KO Randy and even then he only knocked him down and had to finish him on the ground. Though in the Big Nog fight when Randy got rocked he recovered ins seconds. Randy is one of the smartest if not thee smartest fighter there is. He knows what to do and what not to do. He will come with a great game plant to neutralize Tony and get the win. Randy will only stand long enough to go to clinch or to get the take down. Like I said he is a smart fighter. This fight will be Tony on his back getting GnP until the nice guy in the black shirt comes running in waving his arms over his head.

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i agree...no disrespect to nogueira's striking' date=' but he had randy rocked a number of times. i have very little doubt that if toney connects, randy will go out.[/quote']

 

Randy is one of the smartest fighters inside the cage. He rarely comes in with the wrong gameplan.

 

That being said, yes, Randy was rocked a few times by Big Nog, but who says Randy will try and stand with Toney? Randy didn't go for the takedowns on Nog because Nog is a world renowned submission specialist. Toney is nowhere close to Big Nog's ground game.

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Reality check' date=' Lesnar has skills and is a top notch collegiate wrestler.

 

P.S. I hate Lesnar but I still give credit where credit is due.

 

Reality check, he was responding to the guy who thinks you are against mma if you aren't supporting Randy in this fight even though boxing is an art just like wrestling and Toney was a champion at it.

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Most of those "ko's" on his record are tko's. They abbreviate someone's record when stated. But check out Boxrec.com. He only has a few ko's. But for the one "can" they fed him as a heavyweight' date=' no ko's and one towel thrown in by an 92 year old Evander Holyfield who's already made millions.

 

At heavyweight, Toney doesn't have enough power.[/quote']

 

I do agree with some of the points you've made, especially about Toney going nowhere in the heavyweight division. He would be crushed by any of the true heavyweight contenders. But if you think James Toney isn't capable of knocking almost anyone out with 4oz gloves on you're crazy.

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Why would the man who is legendarily one of the most intelligent and versatile fighters in history be dumb enough to try and stand and bang with a boxer who is equally legendary in his KO power and intelligent inside fighting?

 

Randy will NOT be safe with clinching and pinning Toney against the fence. The man can generate a KO quality uppercut with his arm pinned against his belly. He has made a living out of it for years. Toney is widely recognized in boxing circles as one of the most skilled inside fighters ever, and his KO record speaks for itself. He also has had a pretty stout chin throughout his career.

 

But like I said The Natural is one of the most intelligent and strategic fighters in the history of MMA. He will definitely know everything I have just said. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if he himself has drawn inspiration for his own dirty boxing from Toney.

 

This will be the ultimate style makes fights event. If it stays standing for any significant time, Randy goes to sleep. If it hits the ground for any time, Toney gets TKO'd. It all depends on who works their plan better, and at this point I would have to give a pretty huge advantage to Couture.

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