NightMare1993 Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 I think that this fight would be extremly good and i can honestly see Silva winning by (T)ko this for the fact that he hits really hard and I dont see Shogun trying to take this fight to the ground. with that being said who doe you think would win it and how Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneyShot7 Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Shoguns stand up is far superior to Thiagos. Shogun 1st round KO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCGOD1 Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 shogun 1 round T(KO) and i would rather see lil nog vs shogun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjameson6969 Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Id rather see Rampage Shogun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sick00 Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Shogun is in a completely different league to Thiago. There's a hell of alot more fights i'd prefer to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phd425 Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 T.Silva doesn't deserve a shot at the title and he needs to work on his takedown defense id see shogun winning via ground and pound round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eselockster Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 i would like to see that fight...thiago would give shogun a hard time.....especially with shogun unconscious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixshoota Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 i would like to see that fight...thiago would give shogun a hard time.....especially with shogun unconscious Aweeeee, is someone still sour about Machida getting laid-out? Shogun tko rd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCGOD1 Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 i would like to see that fight...thiago would give shogun a hard time.....especially with shogun unconscious Oh you mean like when machida was unconscious ?? oh i sure wish that shogun didn't stop punching machida till the ref stopped it ! he could have landed at least 2 extra punches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eselockster Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Aweeeee' date=' is someone still sour about Machida getting laid-out? Shogun tko rd 2[/quote'] nah i seriously think t.silvas aggresive style will give shogun trouble... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eselockster Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Oh you mean like when machida was unconscious ?? oh i sure wish that shogun didn't stop punching machida till the ref stopped it ! he could have landed at least 2 extra punches enjoy it while you can....wont happen again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCGOD1 Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 enjoy it while you can....wont happen again shogun's class is wasted on you machida fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eselockster Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 shogun's class is wasted on you machida fan never said shogun didnt have class but ok watever mang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komodo Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 I think that this fight would be extremly good and i can honestly see Silva winning by (T)ko this for the fact that he hits really hard and I dont see Shogun trying to take this fight to the ground. with that being said who doe you think would win it and how Who do I "know" would win it. Shogun easy. This fight would be like a replica of Griffin Vs. Silva... Shogun would KO him easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteNinja1 Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Saying shogun would ko thiago easy is ridiculous! yes shogun would win but easily winning by ko is a bit over the top. I'm a fan of both these guys but thiago is coming off a loss & he has some work to do before he has earnt a title shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volturi Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Shogun by murder. Shogun has Thiago outclassed in every aspect of the game and i think Shogun would show Thiago what aggresiveness really was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus9mm Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 I'm confident Gun would annihilate Thiago Silva.........Silva hasn't done anything to earn a shot at Rua, but it would be an interesting fight nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus9mm Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Saying shogun would ko thiago easy is ridiculous! yes shogun would win but easily winning by ko is a bit over the top. I'm a fan of both these guys but thiago is coming off a loss & he has some work to do before he has earnt a title shot. Why is a Shogun KO over the top? Machida knocked out Silva, and dude has pillow hands. Shogun hits much harder I'd say, and would probably knock Thiago clean out..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komodo Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Why is a Shogun KO over the top? Machida knocked out Silva' date=' and dude has pillow hands. Shogun hits much harder I'd say, and would probably knock Thiago clean out.....[/quote'] +1 Completely agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trinimmaman Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Thiago Silva is over rated and would be destroyed by Shogun's superior striking. Striking is much more than hitting hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komodo Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 I agree. Many people think Shogun is just a brawler and they don't understand how technical Shogun is at what he does. He has amazing stand up ability and can KO anyone on the feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deaDBird Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 nah i seriously think t.silvas aggresive style will give shogun trouble... Shogun has faught and beaten many aggresive fighters. Besides Shogun is an aggresive fighter himself Thiago's got nothing on Shogun...and Thiago's gotta get some W's before he even gets a title shot....What I would like to see is lil nog vs Thiago then Shogun vs Lil Nog II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_MC Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 I'm not sure about this one. I think Thiago is way overrated!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCFMRE Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 I'd like to see this fight even though he's obviously not next in line. It could go either way but I'd give it to Thiago by KO. I would rather see Anderson Silva vs Shogun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technique Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 People are writing Thiago off.... is it because rashad layed on him for 3 rounds? Is it because he still almost finished rashad off with herniated discs in his back? He has heavy hands and a black belt in BJJ. Your only as good as your last fight huh? That's why everybody is convinced shogun would win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus9mm Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 People are writing Thiago off.... is it because rashad layed on him for 3 rounds? Is it because he still almost finished rashad off with herniated discs in his back? He has heavy hands and a black belt in BJJ. Your only as good as your last fight huh? That's why everybody is convinced shogun would win. Silva had some big wins, but needs to step up against the better competition. And Shogun is better competition. I don't think he's well rounded, or hungry enough to take on a healthy, champion Shogun. But, it is MMA, and anything can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technique Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Silva had some big wins' date=' but needs to step up against the better competition. And Shogun is better competition. I don't think he's well rounded, or hungry enough to take on a healthy, champion Shogun. But, it is MMA, and anything can happen.[/quote'] Yeah your probably right. I wrote that in response to the people saying Shogun by Murder. I'm as impressed with Shogun as the next guy, I just think people underestimate Thiago. Plus I like the guy, he always brings it and is extremely confident. I think this would be a good fight, Shogun probably has the edge though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodimus Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Oh you mean like when machida was unconscious ?? oh i sure wish that shogun didn't stop punching machida till the ref stopped it ! he could have landed at least 2 extra punches I'm glad he never.It shows what a class act and true champ he is.Honourable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JujitsWho Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 I think that this fight would be extremly good and i can honestly see Silva winning by (T)ko this for the fact that he hits really hard and I dont see Shogun trying to take this fight to the ground. with that being said who doe you think would win it and how Ahhh no, Silva wouldn't win this fight. Yeah he hits hard, but so does Shogun. Rua also has a granite chin and way more tools than Thiago. This would be a very one sided fight IMO. Shogun just outclasses the guy in every area. He's the better striker, has just as much power, the FAR better clinch, and his ground game is the best in the division Easy win IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalman_666 Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 ok guys hear is is Shogun KO vs Machida...... Machida KO against Rashad and Thiago .... Rashad desicisive Victory over Thiago Thiago is a tough guy but i wouldnt hes about a 7 or 8 in the rankings right now, possible if he could win his next couple fights but i see him more as a gatekeeper now would love too see thiago vs jones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus9mm Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Yeah your probably right. I wrote that in response to the people saying Shogun by Murder. I'm as impressed with Shogun as the next guy' date=' I just think people underestimate Thiago. Plus I like the guy, he always brings it and is extremely confident. I think this would be a good fight, Shogun probably has the edge though.[/quote'] No doubt. Thiago has big power.....and Shogun has a phenomenal chin. Would definitely be a matchup I'd like to see, but I don't think Thiago has earned a shot at any title holder....needs a big win over somebody (maybe a Machida rematch) before moving up. Either way, as you said.....to guarantee murder is outlandish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizzle1d3w Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 id much rather see A.Silva vs. Shogun, that would be an outstanding stand up fight. thiago couldnt hang with shogun. shogun tko rd. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandicoot Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 they are good friends so i dont think they would fight each other. Shogun would win but thiago would give him more troubles than 95% of LHW fighters could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TornHonor Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Thiago Silva blows I don't even think he would beat Forrest Griffin let alone any top LHW contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daweedy Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 I dont know why Thiago is getting such high praise I think he is a bit overrated. Outside of Keith Jardine and Tomas Drwal he hasnt beaten anyone really good. And even those two are just good. They arent top fighters or anything. He is good and exiting fighter but I dont see him beating any of the top 5 guys. Sure its MMA and anything can happen but I just dont see it that likely. I rank Thiago as slightly above or a really good gatekeeper. Thiago is in about the same boat as Cane for me. I think that those two should actually fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticKJ Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 T. Silva is a poor man's Shogun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilfel Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 nah i seriously think t.silvas aggresive style will give shogun trouble... What? Have u not seen any of Shoguns pride fights? there litteraly none stop action thanks to shogun lol. Mauricio has only been knocked down 1 time in his entire career while being 1 of the most aggresive fighters in mma history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilfel Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 This wouldnt even be fair 4 T. Silva, the guys a badd man but his most crediable wins has come 4rm the dean of mean and Houston Alexander. Sorry to say it but T. Silva is overhyped and overrated. Thiago doesnt stand a chance against Shogun. Rua is better in everything Silva is even good at. If this fight ever goes down, I think it would look a lot like Shogun V Arona but in the ufc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volturi Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 People are writing Thiago off.... is it because rashad layed on him for 3 rounds? Is it because he still almost finished rashad off with herniated discs in his back? He has heavy hands and a black belt in BJJ. Your only as good as your last fight huh? That's why everybody is convinced shogun would win. Im convinced because i dont see a single place Thiago could take this fight and have the edge, His bread and butter is BJJ and MT which is what Shogun has been training since he was the age of 6 & 7 for gods sake. Shogun is the more technical striker by a country mile, The better MT practitioner and would dominate if it hits the ground let alone the experience advantage. I repeat, Shogun by murder. Give me one solid piece of evidence to the contrary other then the normal "Hes got KO power" which means nothing considering we've only seen him knockout Jardine and Houston Alexander or "Hes got a BJJ Black belt" which we are yet to see him use at all. Oh and this is coming from a Thiago Silva fan but Shogun is a better, faster, more experienced and technical version of Thiago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remedx Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 that sounds like a sick **** fight. Unfortunately Thiago needs to rebound from losing to Rashad and get a streak going before we can see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volturi Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 they are good friends so i dont think they would fight each other. Shogun would win but thiago would give him more troubles than 95% of LHW fighters could. Shogun has stated he would be more then happy to fight Anderson Silva, And last time i checked they werent exactly friends as more they have trained together in the past. Maybe your thinking of the whole Anderson Silva/Lyoto Machida butt buddy thing because the only person Shogun has ever refused to fight was Wanderlei Silva and thats because of the Chute Box family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technique Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Im convinced because i dont see a single place Thiago could take this fight and have the edge' date=' His bread and butter is BJJ and MT which is what Shogun has been training since he was the age of 6 & 7 for gods sake. Shogun is the more technical striker by a country mile, The better MT practitioner and would dominate if it hits the ground let alone the experience advantage. I repeat, Shogun by murder. Give me one solid piece of evidence to the contrary other then the normal "Hes got KO power" which means nothing considering we've only seen him knockout Jardine and Houston Alexander or "Hes got a BJJ Black belt" which we are yet to see him use at all. Oh and this is coming from a Thiago Silva fan but Shogun is a better, faster, more experienced and technical version of Thiago.[/quote'] I don't know how you can be so convinced one guy is going to win in an MMA bout between two top level fighters. Your biased and people can see it from a mile away. I never said Thiago would win... what I said was this would be a great fight and I would love to see it. People talk like Thiago isn't worthy to even fight Shogun. Thiago is a monster, a guy with a real killer instinct. So is shogun though, but he didn't start at 6 or 7. That was a mistake by a pride announcer. He actually started around 15, that's from his own mouth. Not like that even matters because we know he is nasty. Both guys are BJJ black belts and both are aggressive strikers. In my mind it's anybody's fight with Shogun having a slight edge. You say we havent seen any BJJ from Thiago, well Shogun has been submitted twice (just saying). Thiago only real loss IMO was to Machida and that was before Machida had been figured out by Shogun. The Evans bout he shouldn't have taken because he was severely injured, but manned up because the card had been trashed due to injury. He still almost put Evans away in the 3rd round. Beating Thiago is no easy task. Who would I have money on if they fought? Shogun, but this IMO would be fireworks. Thiago doesn't deserve it yet because he's coming off a loss, but I would love to see this fight. Most likely will happen after Shogun loses the title, because I don't think he will hold it long. We will see though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtyShell3 Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 i think it would be a great fight. i dunno who would win. there styles match... could go either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuteboxcamp25 Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Shoguns stand up is far superior to Thiagos. Shogun 1st round KO. shoguns BJJ is far superior than thiagos as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarDawg Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Shogun would destroy T Silva. Shogun has better stand up then Silva. Shgoun has better BJJ then Silva. Thiago is a hard hitter but so is Rampage and Lil Nog and we all know what happened when Shogun faught them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBottery Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 People are writing Thiago off.... is it because rashad layed on him for 3 rounds? Is it because he still almost finished rashad off with herniated discs in his back? He has heavy hands and a black belt in BJJ. Your only as good as your last fight huh? That's why everybody is convinced shogun would win. Honestly I think Silva showed how skilled he is in his last fight. I believe it was what? 3 shots that Rashad landed on the ground? Pathetic. Plus Rashad, who is also a black belt and a very skilled and experienced wrestler, couldn't hold Thiago down, even with the herniated discs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claxp94 Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Shogun would destroy T Silva. Shogun has better stand up then Silva. Shgoun has better BJJ then Silva. Thiago is a hard hitter but so is Rampage and Lil Nog and we all know what happened when Shogun faught them... Lil Nog dropped him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedorp4pking Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 I think that this fight would be extremly good and i can honestly see Silva winning by (T)ko this for the fact that he hits really hard and I dont see Shogun trying to take this fight to the ground. with that being said who doe you think would win it and how how can i explain this... hmm... lets see... SHOGUN >Silva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crakt Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Would be a fight I would like to see! Only to showcase just how much greater Shogun is than Thiago! Thiago is a dangerous fighter but he has nothing on Shogun! Rua Round 1 KO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDBASS Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 I think that this fight would be extremly good and i can honestly see Silva winning by (T)ko this for the fact that he hits really hard and I dont see Shogun trying to take this fight to the ground. with that being said who doe you think would win it and how You have got to be kidding. Check their records and try again, I see no reason to embarrass T. Silva like that. Maybe he should start winning again first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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