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Fedor Emelianenko vs. Alistair Overeem: The Numbers Do Not Lie

by Marco Yanitelli Analyst Written on May 25, 2010 Vote Now! - Author Poll

Who is being treated unfairly in this controversy?

 

Alistair Overeem Fedor Emelianenko Both Niether vote to see results It would seem prudent at this juncture to look at this potential encounter in a cold hard way. No opinions, just numbers and analysis.

 

Due to the overwhelmingly incorrect concept that Fedor is ducking the Strikeforce Champion It is necessary to simply examine the facts and see what they reveal.

 

The following is a comparison of the the last five fights engaged in by each competitor.

 

Alistair's last 5 fights:

 

Brett Rogers 10-1 (W) 1 loss streak

Kaz Fujita 15-9 (W) 2 loss streak - 4 losses of 6

James Thompson 15-12 (W) 2-7-1 over previous 10

Tony Sylvester 11-3 (W) 1-2 over last 3

Gary Goodridge 23-22 (W) 2-8 over last 10 with 7 straight losses

 

Fedor's last 5 fights:

 

Brett Rogers 10-0 (W) 10-0 over last ten fights. Top 10 HW

Andre Arlovski 15-8 (W) 5 fight win streak 11 of previous 13. Top 10 HW

Tim Sylvia 24-4 (W) 7-3 over previous 10 fights Top 10 HW

Hong Man-Choi 1-0 (W) exhibition, Choi no losses (only 1 fight)

Matt Lindland 20-4 (W) 9-1 over previous 10 fights

 

Alistair Overeem Opponent stats last 5:

 

Undefeated opponents: 0

Top 10 opponents: 0

Total combined record of past 5: 74-47

combined opponent record over their prev 10: 24-26

 

Fedor Emelianenko stats last 5:

 

Undefeated Opponents: 2

Top 10 opponents: 3

Total combined record of past 5: 80-16

combined record over their prev 10: 36-5 (does not equal 50 because Choi had only 1)

 

The numbers would seem to indicate a vast chasm between the skill level and competitive nature of each fighter. Fedor seems to win more and against better competition. That is not an opinion, the numbers do not lie.

 

Perhaps Alistair only wants the fame he thinks he will get from beating Fedor. The problem is that he is not a patient person and refuses to wait his turn. Therefore he stirs up controversy by constantly calling out Fedor.

 

Alistair has never beaten a top 10 opponent. He has been knocked out 11 times. The questionable competition Alistair faced revealed an apparently weak jaw. The last time he fought someone that wasn't on a losing streak he was knocked out.

 

It would be hard to gauge fan reaction to such a fight. While the hype might be tremendous there could be some backlash if Alistair cant make a fight out of it. Fedor would then face further abuse from fans that claim he is only fed weak fighters.

 

So why does Fedor's camp even have to humor Alistair? If Strikeforce wants the fight then the fight will happen. To have the Champion chasing the challenger seems rather comical in itself.

 

If Alistair could fight an opponent such as Big Foot it would do a lot to add to his credibility. In addition the fact is that Fedor is already booked and would not be available to fight until April of 2011.

 

Though Big Foot is barely a top 10 guy he would at least be a respectable opponent. It would be the first time Overeem didn't fight someone on a losing streak in five years when he was demolished by Shogun Rua.

 

Perhaps Overeem and his camp think that if they stoke the fires high enough and manipulate writers into feeding this propaganda, that Fedor will drop his commitments to real fighters and give into Alistair's demands.

 

Viewing it historically it is not likely to pan out that way. After all, Fedor has Werdum and after that comes Barnett. Fedor will be not be available until around April of next year. Till then Alistair should find someone else to fight such as the aforementioned Big Foot. If he can beat Fedor then Big Foot should not pose any major challenges right?

 

Everyone is questioning Fedor but not many fans here or anywhere else seem to question Alistair's ability and level of competition. Fedor is constantly railed upon regarding the quality of his opponents. The question is, if Alistair is fighting far worse competition what does that say about him and why are only a few fans questioning that aspect?

 

Is Alistair or Fedor more important to the future of the Strikeforce operation?

 

Regardless, the time Alistair must wait in order to get his date with Fedor could be used productively by fighting some better opponents. He needs to challenge himself or he will not have very much chance at all of defeating Fedor.

 

Ironically the worse Alistair does against Fedor the worse it could end up being for Fedor's reputation.

 

Is Fedor being treated fairly in this war of words? The numbers seem to tell a clear story but we don't need to interpret that for anyone- it's pretty easy to understand why Fedor doesn't pay much heed to Alistair's cries, taunts, and even attacks on his very manhood.

 

Is Alistair simply desperately afraid that someone will beat Fedor before him? Alistair stands to gain quite a bit of money and recognition by winning such a fight. Unfortunately it is very unlikely- at least according to the math - that Fedor would lose to Alistair or anyone else for that matter.

 

Does Alistair have a weak jaw? Could Alistair possibly compete with Fedor on the ground?

 

Even if he finally gets such a fight, Alistair will likely lose anyway.

 

Perhaps he should start looking at the UFC as a possible career move.

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"If Alistair could fight an opponent such as Big Foot it would do a lot to add to his credibility. In addition the fact is that Fedor is already booked and would not be available to fight until April of 2011."

 

All of you who complained about Alistar having to fight a guy coming off a loss - here's his chance to fight Bigfoot who is coming off a win.

 

LMAO.

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Incredible post, and analysis. That about sums it all up.

 

Unfortunately, 80% of the forum here don't like numbers.........apparently they mean nothing in debate amongst TUF nub opinions.

 

It's amazing what you really find when you break it all down. Most clowns here couldn't be bothered.....

 

 

Again, nice post.

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Either way Reem will eventually be in the UFC fighting the best comp and Fedor most likely wont!! So yor right Exodus' date=' numbers dont mean much because both of them arent fighting top 5 guys yet!![/quote']

 

Settle down. Take the same stats and put Carwin, Velasquez, Lesnar and Cigano up against Emp and see what you find.....

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Settle down. Take the same stats and put Carwin' date=' Velasquez, Lesnar and Cigano up against Emp and see what you find.....[/quote']

 

Yes I see the numbers and seeing how deep the hw division is getting its hard to put any of those guys in the top ten (maybe Arlovski), so to me it doesn't exactly add up!!

 

So until he's taking out top 5 guys he's no more important than Reem imo, just a bigger name!!

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Yes I see the numbers and seeing how deep the hw division is getting its hard to put any of those guys in the top ten (maybe Arlovski)' date=' so to me it doesn't exactly add up!!

 

So until he's taking out top 5 guys he's no more important than Reem imo, just a bigger name!![/quote']

 

To each their own.

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Incredible post' date=' and analysis. That about sums it all up.

 

Unfortunately, 80% of the forum here don't like numbers.........apparently they mean nothing in debate amongst TUF nub opinions.

 

It's amazing what you really find when you break it all down. Most clowns here couldn't be bothered.....

 

 

Again, nice post.[/quote']

 

Yeah it's a nice post but the numbers are misleading.

 

Fedor's last 5 fights:

 

Brett Rogers 10-0 (W) 10-0 over last ten fights. Top 10 HW

 

Ok not much denying that the guy is undefeated, but who has he fought. It's not only about records, it's about competition. The guy's only high profile win if you can even call it that was Andrei Arlovski. The other 9 are nobodies. Plus that was right after a devestating KO at the hands of Fedor and he was def still affected.

 

Andre Arlovski 15-8 (W) 5 fight win streak 11 of previous 13. Top 10 HW

 

The numbers here aren't misleading, Arlovski was on a legitimate streak beating good fighters like Ben Rothwell and Big Country and Werdum. They are good fighters, but they are not great fighters. Were talking about a guy challenging a HW fighter that has over 30 fights and is undefeated.

 

 

Tim Sylvia 24-4 (W) 7-3 over previous 10 fights Top 10 HW

 

These numbers are very misleading. Most of his wins are over Andrei Arlovski. It seems like these guys are just beating each other and then Fedor beat them all. When he fought fedor he had lost 2 of his last 3. With his only win over a much smaller brandon vera. ^^ You see I can use numbers too!!

 

Hong Man-Choi 1-0 (W) exhibition, Choi no losses (only 1 fight)

 

This guy factors into the undefeated list with Brett Rogers. The article makes it seem like fedor beat two very highly regarded undefeated fighters. I don't consider either of these guys anything close to highly regarded. After only 1 fight they expect him to challenge Fedor?

 

Matt Lindland 20-4 (W) 9-1 over previous 10 fights

 

Matt Lindland weighed in at 212 pounds. He was used to fighting guys like Carlos Newton who usually fights at 170 and Jeremy Horn. These are his two biggest wins except for maybe Travis Lutter. These guys are WW or MW at best. What was he doing fighting an Undefeated HW?

 

 

 

The original article compares Fedor to Overeem. I would hope that Fedor has faced stiffer competition in his Last 5 fights as he was ranked the #1 HW in the world. It's easy to make Fedor's competition look good when you compare him to a guy who left the US for shady reasons got huge and fought a bunch of scrubs.

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If Alistair could fight an opponent such as Big Foot it would do a lot to add to his credibility. In addition the fact is that Fedor is already booked and would not be available to fight until April of 2011.

 

Curious about this. Fedor is fighting next month but won't be available to fight again until April2011? Guy needs a year off in between fights?

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Yeah it's a nice post but the numbers are misleading.

 

Fedor's last 5 fights:

 

Brett Rogers 10-0 (W) 10-0 over last ten fights. Top 10 HW

 

Ok not much denying that the guy is undefeated' date=' but who has he fought. It's not only about records, it's about competition. The guy's only high profile win if you can even call it that was Andrei Arlovski. The other 9 are nobodies. Plus that was right after a devestating KO at the hands of Fedor and he was def still affected.

 

Andre Arlovski 15-8 (W) 5 fight win streak 11 of previous 13. Top 10 HW

 

The numbers here aren't misleading, Arlovski was on a legitimate streak beating good fighters like Ben Rothwell and Big Country and Werdum. They are good fighters, but they are not great fighters. Were talking about a guy challenging a HW fighter that has over 30 fights and is undefeated.

 

 

Tim Sylvia 24-4 (W) 7-3 over previous 10 fights Top 10 HW

 

These numbers are very misleading. Most of his wins are over Andrei Arlovski. It seems like these guys are just beating each other and then Fedor beat them all. When he fought fedor he had [b']lost 2 of his last 3[/b]. With his only win over a much smaller brandon vera. ^^ You see I can use numbers too!!

 

Hong Man-Choi 1-0 (W) exhibition, Choi no losses (only 1 fight)

 

This guy factors into the undefeated list with Brett Rogers. The article makes it seem like fedor beat two very highly regarded undefeated fighters. I don't consider either of these guys anything close to highly regarded. After only 1 fight they expect him to challenge Fedor?

 

Matt Lindland 20-4 (W) 9-1 over previous 10 fights

 

Matt Lindland weighed in at 212 pounds. He was used to fighting guys like Carlos Newton who usually fights at 170 and Jeremy Horn. These are his two biggest wins except for maybe Travis Lutter. These guys are WW or MW at best. What was he doing fighting an Undefeated HW?

 

 

 

The original article compares Fedor to Overeem. I would hope that Fedor has faced stiffer competition in his Last 5 fights as he was ranked the #1 HW in the world. It's easy to make Fedor's competition look good when you compare him to a guy who left the US for shady reasons got huge and fought a bunch of scrubs.

 

 

LOL you'll just confuse them Technique. To the average Fedor fan Matt Lindland was a HUGE threat at HW.

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Curious about this. Fedor is fighting next month but won't be available to fight again until April2011? Guy needs a year off in between fights?

 

No..He will be fighting Werdum next month and Barnett somtime later this year,After both of these fights Overeems chance at squaring off against Fedor won't be until around that time period.

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No..He will be fighting Werdum next month and Barnett somtime later this year' date='After both of these fights Overeems chance at squaring off against Fedor won't be until around that time period.[/quote']

 

I hadn't heard he was looking to fight Barnett. That is a fight I would love to see. I wonder if it will be in Japan as Barnett can't seem to pass a piss test here in the US.

 

 

 

Links please.

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I hadn't heard he was looking to fight Barnett. That is a fight I would love to see. I wonder if it will be in Japan as Barnett can't seem to pass a piss test here in the US.

 

 

 

Links please.

 

there is no confirmation that hes fight with barnett is gonna happen M-1 simply stated that they would love to fight barnett

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LOL you'll just confuse them Technique. To the average Fedor fan Matt Lindland was a HUGE threat at HW.

 

Lol, yeah sometimes it doesn't take much to confuse or convince people on here. All it takes is some flashy manipulated numbers and people are like woooah.

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Fedor can't make people want to chase him. Overeem is trying, and he will probably lose.

 

Its not his fault that strikeforce can't get the top 5 fighters at hw, and its not strikeforces fault that the top 5 guys, who want fedors p4p ranking and fame of the win over him aren'g going over to their org to fight him.

 

WHAT IS BANETT FAILING URINE TESTS FOR? JUICE OR OTHER DRUGS?

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Fedor can't make people want to chase him. Overeem is trying' date=' and he will probably lose.

 

Its not his fault that strikeforce can't get the top 5 fighters at hw, and its not strikeforces fault that the top 5 guys, who want fedors p4p ranking and fame of the win over him aren'g going over to their org to fight him.

 

WHAT IS BANETT FAILING URINE TESTS FOR? JUICE OR OTHER DRUGS?[/quote']

 

He was tested positive to riods his current issues are however that he hadnt shown up on appointments to the athletickommission defending him self.

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Fedor Emelianenko vs. Alistair Overeem: The Numbers Do Not Lie

by Marco Yanitelli Analyst Written on May 25' date=' 2010 Vote Now! - Author Poll

Who is being treated unfairly in this controversy?

 

Alistair Overeem Fedor Emelianenko Both Niether vote to see results It would seem prudent at this juncture to look at this potential encounter in a cold hard way. No opinions, just numbers and analysis.

 

Due to the overwhelmingly incorrect concept that Fedor is ducking the Strikeforce Champion It is necessary to simply examine the facts and see what they reveal.

 

The following is a comparison of the the last five fights engaged in by each competitor.

 

Alistair's last 5 fights:

 

Brett Rogers 10-1 (W) 1 loss streak

Kaz Fujita 15-9 (W) 2 loss streak - 4 losses of 6

James Thompson 15-12 (W) 2-7-1 over previous 10

Tony Sylvester 11-3 (W) 1-2 over last 3

Gary Goodridge 23-22 (W) 2-8 over last 10 with 7 straight losses

 

Fedor's last 5 fights:

 

Brett Rogers 10-0 (W) 10-0 over last ten fights. Top 10 HW

Andre Arlovski 15-8 (W) 5 fight win streak 11 of previous 13. Top 10 HW

Tim Sylvia 24-4 (W) 7-3 over previous 10 fights Top 10 HW

Hong Man-Choi 1-0 (W) exhibition, Choi no losses (only 1 fight)

Matt Lindland 20-4 (W) 9-1 over previous 10 fights

 

Alistair Overeem Opponent stats last 5:

 

Undefeated opponents: 0

Top 10 opponents: 0

Total combined record of past 5: 74-47

combined opponent record over their prev 10: 24-26

 

Fedor Emelianenko stats last 5:

 

Undefeated Opponents: 2

Top 10 opponents: 3

Total combined record of past 5: 80-16

combined record over their prev 10: 36-5 (does not equal 50 because Choi had only 1)

 

The numbers would seem to indicate a vast chasm between the skill level and competitive nature of each fighter. Fedor seems to win more and against better competition. That is not an opinion, the numbers do not lie.

 

Perhaps Alistair only wants the fame he thinks he will get from beating Fedor. The problem is that he is not a patient person and refuses to wait his turn. Therefore he stirs up controversy by constantly calling out Fedor.

 

Alistair has never beaten a top 10 opponent. He has been knocked out 11 times. The questionable competition Alistair faced revealed an apparently weak jaw. The last time he fought someone that wasn't on a losing streak he was knocked out.

 

It would be hard to gauge fan reaction to such a fight. While the hype might be tremendous there could be some backlash if Alistair cant make a fight out of it. Fedor would then face further abuse from fans that claim he is only fed weak fighters.

 

So why does Fedor's camp even have to humor Alistair? If Strikeforce wants the fight then the fight will happen. To have the Champion chasing the challenger seems rather comical in itself.

 

If Alistair could fight an opponent such as Big Foot it would do a lot to add to his credibility. In addition the fact is that Fedor is already booked and would not be available to fight until April of 2011.

 

Though Big Foot is barely a top 10 guy he would at least be a respectable opponent. It would be the first time Overeem didn't fight someone on a losing streak in five years when he was demolished by Shogun Rua.

 

Perhaps Overeem and his camp think that if they stoke the fires high enough and manipulate writers into feeding this propaganda, that Fedor will drop his commitments to real fighters and give into Alistair's demands.

 

Viewing it historically it is not likely to pan out that way. After all, Fedor has Werdum and after that comes Barnett. Fedor will be not be available until around April of next year. Till then Alistair should find someone else to fight such as the aforementioned Big Foot. If he can beat Fedor then Big Foot should not pose any major challenges right?

 

Everyone is questioning Fedor but not many fans here or anywhere else seem to question Alistair's ability and level of competition. Fedor is constantly railed upon regarding the quality of his opponents. The question is, if Alistair is fighting far worse competition what does that say about him and why are only a few fans questioning that aspect?

 

Is Alistair or Fedor more important to the future of the Strikeforce operation?

 

Regardless, the time Alistair must wait in order to get his date with Fedor could be used productively by fighting some better opponents. He needs to challenge himself or he will not have very much chance at all of defeating Fedor.

 

Ironically the worse Alistair does against Fedor the worse it could end up being for Fedor's reputation.

 

Is Fedor being treated fairly in this war of words? The numbers seem to tell a clear story but we don't need to interpret that for anyone- it's pretty easy to understand why Fedor doesn't pay much heed to Alistair's cries, taunts, and even attacks on his very manhood.

 

Is Alistair simply desperately afraid that someone will beat Fedor before him? Alistair stands to gain quite a bit of money and recognition by winning such a fight. Unfortunately it is very unlikely- at least according to the math - that Fedor would lose to Alistair or anyone else for that matter.

 

Does Alistair have a weak jaw? Could Alistair possibly compete with Fedor on the ground?

 

Even if he finally gets such a fight, Alistair will likely lose anyway.

 

Perhaps he should start looking at the UFC as a possible career move.[/quote']

 

Very very good!!!

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Yes I see the numbers and seeing how deep the hw division is getting its hard to put any of those guys in the top ten (maybe Arlovski)' date=' so to me it doesn't exactly add up!!

 

So until he's taking out top 5 guys he's no more important than Reem imo, just a bigger name!![/quote']

 

You my friend are either geneticly slow or you were dropped on your head.Do a little research and you will not look like a fool.

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You my friend are either geneticly slow or you were dropped on your head.Do a little research and you will not look like a fool.

 

Oh you must be another one of those delusional Fedor fans. Read the rest of the thread smart guy!!!

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It would be the first time Overeem didn't fight someone on a losing streak in five years when he was demolished by Shogun Rua.

 

I don't recall that fight being like that at all, yes Rua won no doubts, but demolished nahhhh.

 

The fight was going Overeem's way till shogun got him on his back against the cage and dropped one on his chin.

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Choi is a freak show with one fight and they call him undefeated like he's had 20 fights....And Arlovski and Sylvia were way past their prime and Linland isnt even in his weight class.......Get the **** outta here with this bull ****.......I swear Fedor fans really are getting worse the BJ and Brock fans

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Choi is a freak show with one fight and they call him undefeated like he's had 20 fights....And Arlovski and Sylvia were way past their prime and Linland isnt even in his weight class.......Get the **** outta here with this bull ****.......I swear Fedor fans really are getting worse the BJ and Brock fans

 

I think both the Fedor fanboys and the Brock fanboys are unbelievable, but the Brockettes are definitely the worst out of the two, and probably the worst out of any fighter's fanboys. Both sides are stubborn, but the Brock people are definitely more immature.

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forget the numbers, look at there performances.. Rogers was man handling Fedor until he landed that punch and Overeem just made Rogers look like a ltitle kid.. Overeem is 6'5 255 but he moves like a middleweight, hes a freak athlete, if they do fight he would give Fedor alot of problems.. hopefully he can knock him out so everyone can finally stop riding Fedors junk

 

@UFCCagerattler, how many of Overeems fights have u seen?? his ground game is top level

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forget the numbers' date=' look at there performances.. Rogers was man handling Fedor until he landed that punch and Overeem just made Rogers look like a ltitle kid.. Overeem is 6'5 255 but he moves like a middleweight, hes a freak athlete, if they do fight he would give Fedor alot of problems.. hopefully he can knock him out so everyone can finally stop riding Fedors junk

 

@UFCCagerattler, how many of Overeems fights have u seen?? his ground game is top level[/quote']

 

His ground game is nothing compared to Fedors.

 

There is only destruction on the ground for No Chin.

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ya, fedor is great and should be favored but Overeem is looking very good since he got huge and moved to heavy weight. I actually like his chances. His chin isn't good enough to outright say he'll beat people but his talent level is definitely good enough to beat anybody, it was at 205 even and he's much better suited as a heavy weight.

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forget the numbers' date=' look at there performances.. Rogers was man handling Fedor until he landed that punch and Overeem just made Rogers look like a ltitle kid.. Overeem is 6'5 255 but he moves like a middleweight, hes a freak athlete, if they do fight he would give Fedor alot of problems.. hopefully he can knock him out so everyone can finally stop riding Fedors junk

 

@UFCCagerattler, how many of Overeems fights have u seen?? his ground game is top level[/quote']

 

ya' date=' fedor is great and should be favored but Overeem is looking very good since he got huge and moved to heavy weight. I actually like his chances. His chin isn't good enough to outright say he'll beat people but his talent level is definitely good enough to beat anybody, it was at 205 even and he's much better suited as a heavy weight.[/quote']

 

Overeem = 9 (t)ko losses K-1/ MMA, head-kick ko'd by Hari '09 final, kimura'd by Werdum & punch-subbed by 200lb Arona ... > this is not a serious threat to Emelianenko

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ya' date=' fedor is great and should be favored but Overeem is looking very good since he got huge and moved to heavy weight. I actually like his chances. His chin isn't good enough to outright say he'll beat people but his talent level is definitely good enough to beat anybody, it was at 205 even and he's much better suited as a heavy weight.[/quote']

 

The fact is he got chased out of LHW by a series of faster harder hitters.

 

All he did was lose.

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Fedor Emelianenko vs. Alistair Overeem: The Numbers Do Not Lie

by Marco Yanitelli Analyst Written on May 25' date=' 2010 Vote Now! - Author Poll

Who is being treated unfairly in this controversy?

 

Alistair Overeem Fedor Emelianenko Both Niether vote to see results It would seem prudent at this juncture to look at this potential encounter in a cold hard way. No opinions, just numbers and analysis.

 

Due to the overwhelmingly incorrect concept that Fedor is ducking the Strikeforce Champion It is necessary to simply examine the facts and see what they reveal.

 

The following is a comparison of the the last five fights engaged in by each competitor.

 

Alistair's last 5 fights:

 

Brett Rogers 10-1 (W) 1 loss streak

Kaz Fujita 15-9 (W) 2 loss streak - 4 losses of 6

James Thompson 15-12 (W) 2-7-1 over previous 10

Tony Sylvester 11-3 (W) 1-2 over last 3

Gary Goodridge 23-22 (W) 2-8 over last 10 with 7 straight losses

 

Fedor's last 5 fights:

 

Brett Rogers 10-0 (W) 10-0 over last ten fights. Top 10 HW

Andre Arlovski 15-8 (W) 5 fight win streak 11 of previous 13. Top 10 HW

Tim Sylvia 24-4 (W) 7-3 over previous 10 fights Top 10 HW

Hong Man-Choi 1-0 (W) exhibition, Choi no losses (only 1 fight)

Matt Lindland 20-4 (W) 9-1 over previous 10 fights

 

Alistair Overeem Opponent stats last 5:

 

Undefeated opponents: 0

Top 10 opponents: 0

Total combined record of past 5: 74-47

combined opponent record over their prev 10: 24-26

 

Fedor Emelianenko stats last 5:

 

Undefeated Opponents: 2

Top 10 opponents: 3

Total combined record of past 5: 80-16

combined record over their prev 10: 36-5 (does not equal 50 because Choi had only 1)

 

The numbers would seem to indicate a vast chasm between the skill level and competitive nature of each fighter. Fedor seems to win more and against better competition. That is not an opinion, the numbers do not lie.

 

Perhaps Alistair only wants the fame he thinks he will get from beating Fedor. The problem is that he is not a patient person and refuses to wait his turn. Therefore he stirs up controversy by constantly calling out Fedor.

 

Alistair has never beaten a top 10 opponent. He has been knocked out 11 times. The questionable competition Alistair faced revealed an apparently weak jaw. The last time he fought someone that wasn't on a losing streak he was knocked out.

 

It would be hard to gauge fan reaction to such a fight. While the hype might be tremendous there could be some backlash if Alistair cant make a fight out of it. Fedor would then face further abuse from fans that claim he is only fed weak fighters.

 

So why does Fedor's camp even have to humor Alistair? If Strikeforce wants the fight then the fight will happen. To have the Champion chasing the challenger seems rather comical in itself.

 

If Alistair could fight an opponent such as Big Foot it would do a lot to add to his credibility. In addition the fact is that Fedor is already booked and would not be available to fight until April of 2011.

 

Though Big Foot is barely a top 10 guy he would at least be a respectable opponent. It would be the first time Overeem didn't fight someone on a losing streak in five years when he was demolished by Shogun Rua.

 

Perhaps Overeem and his camp think that if they stoke the fires high enough and manipulate writers into feeding this propaganda, that Fedor will drop his commitments to real fighters and give into Alistair's demands.

 

Viewing it historically it is not likely to pan out that way. After all, Fedor has Werdum and after that comes Barnett. Fedor will be not be available until around April of next year. Till then Alistair should find someone else to fight such as the aforementioned Big Foot. If he can beat Fedor then Big Foot should not pose any major challenges right?

 

Everyone is questioning Fedor but not many fans here or anywhere else seem to question Alistair's ability and level of competition. Fedor is constantly railed upon regarding the quality of his opponents. The question is, if Alistair is fighting far worse competition what does that say about him and why are only a few fans questioning that aspect?

 

Is Alistair or Fedor more important to the future of the Strikeforce operation?

 

Regardless, the time Alistair must wait in order to get his date with Fedor could be used productively by fighting some better opponents. He needs to challenge himself or he will not have very much chance at all of defeating Fedor.

 

Ironically the worse Alistair does against Fedor the worse it could end up being for Fedor's reputation.

 

Is Fedor being treated fairly in this war of words? The numbers seem to tell a clear story but we don't need to interpret that for anyone- it's pretty easy to understand why Fedor doesn't pay much heed to Alistair's cries, taunts, and even attacks on his very manhood.

 

Is Alistair simply desperately afraid that someone will beat Fedor before him? Alistair stands to gain quite a bit of money and recognition by winning such a fight. Unfortunately it is very unlikely- at least according to the math - that Fedor would lose to Alistair or anyone else for that matter.

 

Does Alistair have a weak jaw? Could Alistair possibly compete with Fedor on the ground?

 

Even if he finally gets such a fight, Alistair will likely lose anyway.

 

Perhaps he should start looking at the UFC as a possible career move.[/quote']

I just cant wait to see this fight.And will see what happend.Numbers mean nothing.Anything can happend inside the octagon!

And stop being gay with these Fedor threads over and over again.

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