SCOver2 Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Just one. Fedor has not beaten anyone in today's evolved MMA HW division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claxp94 Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Rogers = Carwin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSuperman Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Rogers = Carwin. /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 name me one guy lesnar has fought that ever will be relevant again ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOver2 Posted May 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Rogers = Carwin.How so?Rogers has 2 losses and only has 1 signficant win' date=' and carwin has 2 significant wins, and 0 losses, all wins by first round stoppage.[/b'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 How so?Rogers has 2 losses and only has 1 signficant win' date=' and carwin has 2 significant wins, and 0 losses, all wins by first round stoppage.[/b'] lesnar has zero significant wins ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOver2 Posted May 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 name me one guy lesnar has fought that ever will be relevant again ?Mir is still a relevant HW whether or not you want to admit it.He's still in the Top 10 and none of Fedor's opponents are. Actually Mir stopped Fedor's best opponent Nog when Fedor couldn't in three fights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkReflection Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 name me one guy lesnar has fought that ever will be relevant again ? Mir may. But that said Lesnar is in the deep waters...where if he keeps winning he'll be fighting guys like...oh.. Dos Santos, Carwin, Velasquez. Of course Lesnar will probably never fight guys like say...Noguiera and Crocop...because they aren't good enough to claim the belt. But hey...it's good enough for Fedor right? Riiiight. Cheers -DR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Mir is still a relevant HW whether or not you want to admit it. Actually Mir stopped Fedor's best opponent Nog when Fedor couldn't in three fights. mir has a 5 tko-loss record, one to lhw vera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSuperman Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Rogers is the same as Carwin for the most part, don't deny it. Either give Rogers the credit, or don't give Carwin the credit. ATT is all that matters, and ATT, Rogers was undefeated, and just had come off a win to Arlovski. Carwin may look better at this point, but they are still the same for the most part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOver2 Posted May 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Rogers is the same as Carwin for the most part' date=' don't deny it. Either give Rogers the credit, or don't give Carwin the credit. ATT is all that matters, and ATT, Rogers was undefeated, and just had come off a win to Arlovski. Carwin may look better at this point, but they are still the same for the most part[/quote']Rogers has 2 losses and only has 1 signficant win, and carwin has 2 significant wins, and 0 losses, all wins by first round stoppage. Also Carwin has an NCAA wrestling champion pedigree. Rogers has no pedigree to speak of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSuperman Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Mir is still a relevant HW whether or not you want to admit it.He's still in the Top 10 and none of Fedor's opponents are. Actually Mir stopped Fedor's best opponent Nog when Fedor couldn't in three fights. Good job' date=' you know how to apply MMAth, now you just have to know [i']when[/i] to apply it, which is never. Styles make the fight, you know this, don't be so ignorant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkReflection Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Rogers has 2 losses and only has 1 signficant win' date=' and carwin has 2 significant wins, and 0 losses, all wins by first round stoppage. [b']Also Carwin has an NCAA wrestling champion pedigree. Rogers has no pedigree to speak of[/b]. And STILL Rogers could hang with Fedor on the ground. Cheers -DR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claxp94 Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 How so?Rogers has 2 losses and only has 1 signficant win' date=' and carwin has 2 significant wins, and 0 losses, all wins by first round stoppage.[/b'] Carwin: 10 Cans & 2 ****es [bJJ guys, try to stand-n-bang) Loss Brock Lesnar TKO (Punches) UFC 116 - Lesnar vs. Carwin 7/3/2010 2 3:34 << the future Win Frank Mir KO (Punches) UFC 111 - St. Pierre vs. Hardy 3/27/2010 1 3:48 Win Gabriel Gonzaga TKO (Punches) UFC 96 - Jackson vs. Jardine 3/7/2009 1 1:09 Win Neil Wain TKO (Punches) UFC 89 - Bisping vs. Leben 10/18/2008 1 1:31 Win Christian Wellisch KO (Punch) UFC 84 - Ill Will 5/24/2008 1 0:44 Win Sherman Pendergarst TKO (Punches) ROF 31 - Undisputed 12/1/2007 1 1:41 Win Rex Richards Submission (Guillotine Choke) AOW - Art of War 4 10/27/2007 1 1:24 Win Rick Slaton KO ROF 30 - Domination 9/15/2007 1 0:49 Win Chris Guillen Submission UTS 6 - Ultimate Texas Showdown 6 6/24/2006 1 0:29 Win Justice Smith TKO (Punches) Extreme Wars 3 - Bay Area Brawl 6/3/2006 1 0:31 Win Jay McCown Submission UTS 5 - Ultimate Texas Showdown 5 4/29/2006 1 1:31 Win Casey Jackson Submission (Guillotine Choke) Extreme Wars 2 - X-1 3/18/2006 1 0:22 Win Carlton Jones Submission (Punches) WEC 17 - Halloween Fury 4 10/14/2005 1 2:11 Brett Rogers: 9 Cans, 1 credible win, 1 legend loss, 1 regular loss Loss Alistair Overeem TKO (Punches) Strikeforce - Heavy Artillery 5/15/2010 1 3:40 Loss Fedor Emelianenko TKO (Punches) Strikeforce / M-1 Global - Fedor vs. Rogers 11/7/2009 2 1:48 Win Andrei Arlovski TKO (Punches) Strikeforce - Lawler vs. Shields 6/6/2009 1 0:22 Win Ron Humphrey TKO (Knees) Strikeforce - Shamrock vs. Diaz 4/11/2009 2 1:38 Win Jon Murphy KO (Punch) EliteXC - Primetime 5/31/2008 1 1:01 Win James Thompson KO (Punches) EliteXC - Street Certified 2/16/2008 1 2:24 Win Ralph Kelly Submission (Punches) EliteXC - Renegade 11/10/2007 1 1:43 Win Josh Melichar KO (Punches) EFX - Fury 2/1/2007 1 0:12 Win Mark Racine TKO (Punches) EFX - Fury 12/7/2006 1 2:35 Win Brian Heden KO (Punches) EFX - Fury 11/1/2006 1 1:20 Win Stan Strong KO (Punches) UCS - Throwdown at the T-Bar 7/30/2006 2 0:13 Win Chris Clark TKO (Punches) EFX - Fury 5/3/2006 1 0:37 Both wrestlers, KO Power, besides that one is black and one is white, they're twins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Name me one guy Fedor has beat that's relevant today `` They are all relevant in that they all belong to the greatest winning streak in modern sports history. If you are a HW MMA fighter and you have not faced Fedor your career is a fail. Sorry. Thats just the way it is in the fight game. There`s only one champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSuperman Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Rogers has 2 significant losses and only has 1 signficant win' date=' and carwin has 2 significant wins, and 0 losses, all wins by first round stoppage. Also Carwin has an NCAA wrestling champion pedigree. Rogers has no pedigree to speak of.[/quote'] Why does any pedigree of anything matter? GSP is no college wrestler, yet look what he does every fight. What you train in and how and ect. ect. are irrelevant in this subject as to calling someone 'relevant' in the sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOver2 Posted May 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 And STILL Rogers could hang with Fedor on the ground. Cheers -DR Yeah and Overeem outstuck him 54-1 en route to total domination. Doesn't say much about Fedor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOver2 Posted May 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Why does any pedigree of anything matter? GSP is no college wrestler' date=' yet look what he does every fight. What you train in and how and ect. ect. are irrelevant in this subject as to calling someone 'relevant' in the sport[/quote']GSP is also a world champion with many big wins. The only thing Rogers has ever done is a flash KO over Arlvoski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Yeah and Overeem outstuck him 54-1 en route to total domination. Doesn't say much about Fedor. fedor finished the job, overeem didn't have the skill/ power & needed the ref Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claxp94 Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 fedor finished the job' date=' overeem didn't have the skill/ power & needed the ref[/quote']Why does it say TKO on Sherdog? :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 GSP is also a world champion with many big wins. The only thing Rogers has ever done is a flash KO over Arlvoski. GSP has 20 wins. SO he is yeasr away from matching Fedors record. Plus fedor came up in REAL MMA. Tournaments. No weights limts. GSP is a modern UFC fighter and thats all. That isn;t even real MMA. Has has never fought anyone bogger than him and he has obviously never fought in a tournament. He couldn`t. He doesn;t have that kind of talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOver2 Posted May 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 GSP has 20 wins. SO he is yeasr away from matching Fedors record. Plus fedor came up in REAL MMA. Tournaments. No weights limts. GSP is a modern UFC fighter and thats all. That isn;t even real MMA. Has has never fought anyone bogger than him and he has obviously never fought in a tournament. He couldn`t. He doesn;t have that kind of talent. LMAO GSP also fights top 5 guys in every single fight, Fedor has fought 2 since 2006 in a much weaker division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 LMAO GSP also fights top 5 guys in every single fight' date=' Fedor has fought 2 since 2006[/quote'] He fights one guy every 6 or 8 months. Big deal. Go fight some real MMA and then we`ll talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkReflection Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 He fights one guy every 6 or 8 months. Big deal. Go fight some real MMA and then we`ll talk. *chuckle* OH...so you've got no interest in the sport of today...so I expect you'll refrain from posting here anymore. Well nice to have met you...but I'm sure you're not dumb enough to go on and on about "fake MMA" right? That's what I thought. Take care, I'm sure you'll be missed. Cheers -DR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOver2 Posted May 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 He fights one guy every 6 or 8 months. Big deal. Go fight some real MMA and then we`ll talk. yeah GSP has 7 top 5 wins since 2006, Fedor has 2 in a much weaker division, big deal that's only like more than 3 times as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 *chuckle* OH...so you've got no interest in the sport of today...so I expect you'll refrain from posting here anymore. Well nice to have met you...but I'm sure you're not dumb enough to go on and on about "fake MMA" right? That's what I thought. Take care' date=' I'm sure you'll be missed. Cheers -DR[/quote'] Facts: Fedor has fought in reall MMA - tournament elimination MMA. No weight limuts. What has GSP ever fought - EVER - Modern UFC judged single bouts. Big effing deal. GSP HAS NEVER EVEN BEEN IN A FIGHT WITH SOMEON BIGGER THAN HIM. How the Eff can you be an MMA fighter and never fight someone bigger than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Oh lets not forget the biggest fact - Fedor is te highest grossing MMA fighter that ever lived. Even bigger than LEsnat with his legion of WWE fanboys like SCO. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOver2 Posted May 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Facts: Fedor has fought in reall MMA - tournament elimination MMA. No weight limuts. What has GSP ever fought - EVER - Modern UFC judged single bouts. Big effing deal. GSP HAS NEVER EVEN BEEN IN A FIGHT WITH SOMEON BIGGER THAN HIM. How the Eff can you be an MMA fighter and never fight someone bigger than you. Good point, so why do you think GSP is ranked ahead of Fedor at every relevant P4P ranking? Because he's better. Thanks for playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOver2 Posted May 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Oh lets not forget the biggest fact - Fedor is te highest grossing MMA fighter that ever lived. Even bigger than LEsnat with his legion of WWE fanboys like SCO. Go figure. lmao link? He can't even sell 100k ppv buys Brock over a million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claxp94 Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 lmao link? He can't even sell 100k ppv buys Brock over a million. He got 5.4 mil on his fight with Rogers. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 lmao link? He can't even sell 100k ppv buys Brock over a million. Wait now. WHo has GSP fought that is relevent today. Hughes. Sera. (oh wait, sera beat him up didn;t he...forget him) Maybe Fitch. Yes its quite a cast of charactors isnt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOver2 Posted May 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 He got 5.4 mil on his fight with Rogers. :eek:Link or it didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Fedor makes more money than LEsnar. LOL And he didn;t have to jon the WWE to do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOver2 Posted May 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Wait now. WHo has GSP fought that is relevent today. Hughes. Sera. (oh wait' date=' sera beat him up didn;t he...forget him) Maybe Fitch. Yes its quite a cast of charactors isnt it.[/quote']GSP fights Top 5 guys in every fight and has cleared out his division. You're delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claxp94 Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Link or it didn't happen. http://mmajunkie.com/news/16803/strikeforces-fedor-emelianenko-vs-brett-rogers-event-peaks-with-5-46-million-viewers.mma Link ^^ So it did happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOver2 Posted May 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Fedor makes more money than LEsnar. LOL And he didn;t have to jon the WWE to do it! What a load of BS. As if Strikeforce can pay him more than UFC can pay Brock. Fedor can't even sell 100 k ppv Links please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranga Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Lesnar is a can and I'm delusional. Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claxp94 Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Fedor makes more money than LEsnar. LOL And he didn;t have to jon the WWE to do it! Fedor 300,000 > Lesnar 400,000? I'm pretty sure that doesn't make sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 GSP fights Top 5 guys in every fight and has cleared out his division. You're delusional. Fedor = WORLD champion. Not UFC Champion. Big differnce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOver2 Posted May 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 http://mmajunkie.com/news/16803/strikeforces-fedor-emelianenko-vs-brett-rogers-event-peaks-with-5-46-million-viewers.mma Link ^^ So it did happen That said nothing about Fedor making over five million $ That's 5 million viewers, which is relatively weak for a free card on network TV which is why Strikeforces CBS contract has gone skippy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOver2 Posted May 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Fedor = WORLD champion. Not UFC Champion. Big differnce. Fedor = Wamma champion lol He doesn't even have the balls to face the Strikeforce champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Why does it say TKO on Sherdog? :eek: .... the ref jumped in after the big right by fedor > rogers was not intelligently defending himself vs overeem ... ( you did see both fights ?) end of fight ^^ no g&p needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 That said nothing about Fedor making over five million $ That's 5 million viewers' date=' which is relatively weak for a free card on network TV which is why Strikeforces CBS contract has gone skippy[/quote'] That is only the American views. Check into whath they drew in Russia. Let us know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOver2 Posted May 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 .... the ref jumped in after the big right by fedor > rogers was not intelligently defending himself vs overeem ... ( you did see both fights ?) end of fight ^^ no g&p needed I did Fedor was losing until the KO and Reem completely dominated Rogers and stopped him in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 .... the ref jumped in after the big right by fedor > rogers was not intelligently defending himself vs overeem ... ( you did see both fights ?) end of fight ^^ no g&p needed I love this clip and the Arlovski clip. Imagine ROgers trying to throw a left hook at Fedor. WTF was he thinking. (and his jab was getting in too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Fedor = Wamma champion lol He doesn't even have the balls to face the Strikeforce champion ... you are approaching the level of causisaycrap ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOver2 Posted May 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 That is only the American views. Check into whath they drew in Russia. Let us know. Free views Nobody pays to see Fedor fight which is why he can't even sell 100 k ppvs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claxp94 Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 .... the ref jumped in after the big right by fedor > rogers was not intelligently defending himself vs overeem ... ( you did see both fights ?) end of fight ^^ no g&p needed No i'm talking about the Fedor fight. Loss Fedor Emelianenko TKO (Punches) Strikeforce / M-1 Global - Fedor vs. Rogers 11/7/2009 2 1:48 what the ****? ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 I did Fedor was losing until the KO and Reem completely dominated Rogers and stopped him in the first round. rogers allowed overeem to pass guard w/ one arm & then he curled-up in a ball, ... you saw how little badr hari destroyed overeem last year, ... now super-impose fedor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Free views Nobody pays to see Fedor fight which is why he can't even sell 100 k ppvs Gosh I wonder why Fedor and not Lesnar is on the Forbes 100 list of highest earning athelets. I guess they have;nt got your info yet. LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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