SuperDan1406051816 Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Despite suffering his first legitimate loss to Fabricio Werdum at Strikeforce/M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Werdum on June 26th, F4WOnline.com is reporting that Fedor Emelianenko will be offered a Strikeforce Heavyweight title shot against current champion Alistair Overeem, given he signs their usual title match agreement (which binds the champion to defend in the promotion). Apparently the idea is if Fedor fights Werdum again and wins, he can leave and that would allow Strikeforce to get him in a title match and keep him, whereas if he loses they've simply established their title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Despite suffering his first legitimate loss to Fabricio Werdum at Strikeforce/M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Werdum on June 26th' date=' F4WOnline.com is reporting that Fedor Emelianenko will be offered a Strikeforce Heavyweight title shot against current champion Alistair Overeem, given he signs their usual title match agreement (which binds the champion to defend in the promotion). Apparently the idea is if Fedor fights Werdum again and wins, he can leave and that would allow Strikeforce to get him in a title match and keep him, whereas if he loses they've simply established their title.[/quote'] Interesting ... like to hear Ex9mm's take on this ? (bad news for SCO, say bye-bye if its true) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technique Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Don't agree with it, but business-wise it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uaquin Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Don't agree with it' date=' but business-wise it makes sense.[/quote'] Yes and no. Dangling a no Werdum fight without a new contract at Fedor = smart business. Having Overeem defend his belt for a SECOND time against a guy coming off a loss= SF HW belt is as legit as one out of a gum ball machine. How much sense does it make if we see the Fedor vs Werdum rematch and Fedor is the defending Champ not Werdum. Makes no sense. They should have done Overeem vs Werdum Fedor vs BigFoot Silva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_A Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Yes and no. Dangling a no Werdum fight without a new contract at Fedor = smart business. Having Overeem defend his belt for a SECOND time against a guy coming off a loss= SF HW belt is as legit as one out of a gum ball machine. How much sense does it make if we see the Fedor vs Werdum rematch and Fedor is the defending Champ not Werdum. Makes no sense. They should have done Overeem vs Werdum Fedor vs BigFoot Silva Completely agree. If SF wants to stay in business they need start trying to legitimize their titles, not keep focusing on having all their eggs in the Fedor basket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicIzMySavior Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Despite suffering his first legitimate loss to Fabricio Werdum at Strikeforce/M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Werdum on June 26th' date=' F4WOnline.com is reporting that Fedor Emelianenko will be offered a Strikeforce Heavyweight title shot against current champion Alistair Overeem, given he signs their usual title match agreement (which binds the champion to defend in the promotion). Apparently the idea is if Fedor fights Werdum again and wins, he can leave and that would allow Strikeforce to get him in a title match and keep him, whereas if he loses they've simply established their title.[/quote'] I heard they want a rematch before any title fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technique Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Yes and no. Dangling a no Werdum fight without a new contract at Fedor = smart business. Having Overeem defend his belt for a SECOND time against a guy coming off a loss= SF HW belt is as legit as one out of a gum ball machine. How much sense does it make if we see the Fedor vs Werdum rematch and Fedor is the defending Champ not Werdum. Makes no sense. They should have done Overeem vs Werdum Fedor vs BigFoot Silva Yeah great points. This is how a non-struggling MMA organization would have handled things, but you can't blame them for not wanting to miss out on the bigger pay day with Overeem vs Fedor. It does tarnish the HW belt though, maybe Overeem will just come to the UFC... (Crosses Fingers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G__row Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 This is stupid imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdnMMAfan15 Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 this is stupid imo. agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodimus Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Maybe this is a return slap to Werdum for wanting a rematch over a title fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaySmartGE Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 I hope Fedor doesn't accept that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeformedGravy Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Fedor vs Werdum II. Fedor either re-signs with SF and fights Overeem for title, depending on if he beats Werdum, or he retires. Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookster Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 gotta love speculation lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff83 Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 This is stupid imo. Rogers can lose 2 straight and still get a good fight... hell, a title shot with a loss... why not the greatest ever? The SF way. HAHA What a joke for a promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eselockster Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 strikeforce= joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_M Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 If this happens then wtf is Werdum going to do? Unless he gets Overeem, werdum is getting screwed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex_Kwon_Do Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Maybe this is a return slap to Werdum for wanting a rematch over a title fight. Quite stupid of him I must say...it's like they told him back in the locker room..."if you win this bout immediately ask for a rematch with Fedor....cuz personally we don't wanna see you as champion plus we stand to lose tons of money." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leiting Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 So Overeem wins the Heavyweight title - doesn't defend it or even appear at a SF event for two and a half years, then has his first defense against a guy who's coming off a loss and now they want to have him defend the title again against ANOTHER guy fresh off a loss? I understand Fedor is no ordinary fighter and his legacy puts him in a different category, but from a promotional stand point it's like they don't give a **** about the prestige of their title. I swear Vince McMahon does a better job of making his Heavyweight Title look like it means something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RampagE_AttacK Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 I still say Fedor should grow some nuts and stop hiding behind his management and come fight in the UFC. Thats if Dana will have his fat a ss now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus9mm Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 I expected this. I don't like it, but as others have said, it's smart business right now. Clearly, Werdum should be fighting Overeem, but that won't sell tickets. They're banking on Fedor beating Overeem, having the title clause that requires him to stay, and then giving him Werdum as his first defense, also being a rematch. I'd love to see him obliterate Overeem though, I'm not gonna lie. I really don't care who he fights, just as long as he fights. War Fedor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uaquin Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Looks like someone forgot to take his meds again. I tell ya as much as I want SF to be successful its hard to take those jokers seriously sometimes. http://www.cagepotato.com/bobby-lashley-wants-fedor-nextno-seriouslytheres-no-punchline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentson Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Despite suffering his first legitimate loss to Fabricio Werdum at Strikeforce/M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Werdum on June 26th' date=' F4WOnline.com is reporting that Fedor Emelianenko will be offered a Strikeforce Heavyweight title shot against current champion Alistair Overeem, given he signs their usual title match agreement (which binds the champion to defend in the promotion). Apparently the idea is if Fedor fights Werdum again and wins, he can leave and that would allow Strikeforce to get him in a title match and keep him, whereas if he loses they've simply established their title.[/quote'] This makes totally sense as to be eligible for a title shot in the strikefarce hw division you need to lose in embarrassing fashion in your previous fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendoforpresident Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 This makes totally sense as to be eligible for a title shot in the strikefarce hw division you need to lose in embarrassing fashion in your previous fight. losing to the top BJJ guy in the world via triangle choke after pummeling him for a few seconds is not wat i would consider embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentson Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 losing to the top BJJ guy in the world via triangle choke after pummeling him for a few seconds is not wat i would consider embarrassing Jumping sloppily into the guard of a top bjj guy and throwing wild sloppy punches when his opponent only slipped and was not rocked is a rookie mistake, embarrassing for a fighter of Fedor's stature. In his past (Big Nog) he would just let them stand up, he was overconfident and lost to an opponent he should have demolished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendoforpresident Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Jumping sloppily into the guard of a top bjj guy and throwing wild sloppy punches when his opponent only slipped and was not rocked is a rookie mistake' date=' embarrassing for a fighter of Fedor's stature. In his past (Big Nog) he would just let them stand up, he was overconfident and lost to an opponent he should have demolished.[/quote'] cuz fedor let nog stand up sooo many times i agree he made a mistake but Werdums BJJ is amazing, brock woulda done the same thing and so would everyone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Jumping sloppily into the guard of a top bjj guy and throwing wild sloppy punches when his opponent only slipped and was not rocked is a rookie mistake' date=' embarrassing for a fighter of Fedor's stature. In his past (Big Nog) he would just let them stand up, he was overconfident and lost to an opponent he should have demolished.[/quote'] not true ^ .. of the two classic beat-downs fedor handed Nog, the first match was ground-war & the third was stand-up ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentson Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 cuz fedor let nog stand up sooo many times i agree he made a mistake but Werdums BJJ is amazing' date=' brock woulda done the same thing and so would everyone else[/quote'] Your trying to defend Fedor by comparing him to Brock???? Someone with only a handful of mma matches is expected to make rookie mistakes but Fedor should have known better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffy_handsome Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 If this is true then SF would just like Fedor to get 2 consecutive loss. They want it to happen so when Fedor contracts expired, M1 Global cannot dictate SF anymore if how much money they want, since no one wants Fedor then Good move SF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGrace Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 I have already voiced my opinion once on the hilarity that is the SF titles. Overeem now gets the chance to defend his belt not once but twice against a guy coming off a loss! Nothing about their rankings makes any sense to me. I understand that Fedor is well Fedor but still a loss is a loss. I thought title shots were earned by winning? Wouldn't that make Werdum the most deserving HW? I get business wise it doesn't make the most sense but to keep/earn any kind of rep as a fight company they kinda have to do the right thing here. Setup Fedor/Werdum 2 after Werdum fights Overeem. Potentially for the belt if Werdum could pull out the win(doubtful), but sometimes guys don't get a chance to avenge a loss and that's just the way it is, or it takes an awful long time to get your chance. Look at Liddell/Rampage, Rampage/Silva, etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentson Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 I have already voiced my opinion once on the hilarity that is the SF titles. Overeem now gets the chance to defend his belt not once but twice against a guy coming off a loss! Nothing about their rankings makes any sense to me. I understand that Fedor is well Fedor but still a loss is a loss. I thought title shots were earned by winning? Wouldn't that make Werdum the most deserving HW? I get business wise it doesn't make the most sense but to keep/earn any kind of rep as a fight company they kinda have to do the right thing here. Setup Fedor/Werdum 2 after Werdum fights Overeem. Potentially for the belt if Werdum could pull out the win(doubtful)' date=' but sometimes guys don't get a chance to avenge a loss and that's just the way it is, or it takes an awful long time to get your chance. Look at Liddell/Rampage, Rampage/Silva, etc etc[/quote'] +1 their hw title is a joke and apparently they thinks its funny enough to keep the joke coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendoforpresident Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 +1 their hw title is a joke and apparently they thinks its funny enough to keep the joke coming. i loved it when Werdum said Overeem could keep his belt that ****t is worthless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BESERKER Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 overeem has been (t)ko'd 9 times in his mma/ k-1 career > badr hari has 11 losses(7 by tko) & he knocked overeem down w/ a short left & finished w/ a head-kick ko in the '09 GP finals . werdum kimura'd him in '06 overeem is a meatball, werdum is off the chart superior to alistair .. word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimma Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Yes and no. Dangling a no Werdum fight without a new contract at Fedor = smart business. Having Overeem defend his belt for a SECOND time against a guy coming off a loss= SF HW belt is as legit as one out of a gum ball machine. How much sense does it make if we see the Fedor vs Werdum rematch and Fedor is the defending Champ not Werdum. Makes no sense. They should have done Overeem vs Werdum Fedor vs BigFoot Silva I completely agree. And to true mma fans, their organization becomes even more of a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adambomber Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 well has strikeforce done anything right? Fedor has been the #1 p4p fighter and many peoples list, yet Brett Rodgers, who he beat, fought for the Championship.... I think its unfair for Fedor in the first place Fedor should have fought Overeem before Fedor fought Arlosvski, before he fought Rodgers, and definitly before OVereem fought Rodgers According to how they have done things, Fedor should get a title shot now, why should they change how they do things now that Fedor lost? Again, they have done things wrong all along, but to do them right now would be doing Fedor even more wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckleUP4safeT Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 well has strikeforce done anything right? Fedor has been the #1 p4p fighter and many peoples list' date=' yet Brett Rodgers, who he beat, fought for the Championship.... I think its unfair for Fedor in the first place Fedor should have fought Overeem before Fedor fought Arlosvski, before he fought Rodgers, and definitly before OVereem fought Rodgers According to how they have done things, Fedor should get a title shot now, why should they change how they do things now that Fedor lost? Again, they have done things wrong all along, but to do them right now would be doing Fedor even more wrong[/quote'] Fedor dodged overeem.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzaroth Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Any shenanigans with Werdum vs Overeem before Fedor, only delays the more anticipated fedor vs overeem, and i'm not a patient man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzaroth Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 overeem has been (t)ko'd 9 times in his mma/ k-1 career > badr hari has 11 losses(7 by tko)& he knocked overeem down w/ a short left & finished w/ a head-kick ko in the '09 GP finals . werdum kimura'd him in '06 overeem is a meatball' date=' werdum is off the chart superior to alistair .. word [img']http://pumapac.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/CoolCat-SayingWORD_0.jpg[/img] That's an incredibly distorted reality you live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendoforpresident Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Fedor dodged overeem.. o shut up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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