VomitPuke Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Undeniable, he would murder him with strikes in the first round, and he would not gas out like carwin did, Really Overeem is in a different class as bock bock, hes a step up from lesnar. His striking has improved so much, man what he would do to him, now THATS a fight I would buy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavemanJesus Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Just by the way their fights went I would say yes he would. But not to be skeptical this is just a theory. But man if Overeem was to do what Carwin did in the 1st round Overeem wouldve done more damage to the body than the head of Lesnar, since he was covering up the whole time. But in Overeems case his cardio wouldve been better than Carwins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiousmat Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Undeniable' date=' he would murder him with strikes in the first round, and he would not gas out like carwin did, Really Overeem is in a different class as bock bock, hes a step up from lesnar. His striking has improved so much, man what he would do to him, now THATS a fight I would buy[/quote'] I'm pretty sure he would destroy Bock Lesnar.. Just not Brock Lesnar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technique Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Brock would take him down and wear out his new muscles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdnMMAfan15 Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 I'm pretty sure he would destroy Bock Lesnar.. Just not Brock Lesnar. lol funny. but seriously theres a lil too much hype around overeem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VomitPuke Posted July 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 lol funny. but seriously theres a lil too much hype around overeem. WHAT and theres not too much hype around brock?!?! lmao, dude lets take a step back and look at who is the real hype machine.....jeez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RampagE_AttacK Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Undeniable' date=' he would murder him with strikes in the first round, and he would not gas out like carwin did, Really Overeem is in a different class as bock bock, hes a step up from lesnar. His striking has improved so much, man what he would do to him, now THATS a fight I would buy[/quote'] Yea just like Carwin would destroy Brock zzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickTF Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 I must admit that I think Overeem is Lesnar's poison as of right now. This is what came to mind watching the fight. Lesnar needs to improve some things if he's to win agains this guy if the chance ever comes. The question is though how is his take down defense. Also, Technique has it right; that being the possibility for Overeem to gas even faster given his rediculous stature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdnMMAfan15 Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 WHAT and theres not too much hype around brock?!?! lmao' date=' dude lets take a step back and look at who is the real hype machine.....jeez[/quote'] I didnt say that. They're both extremely overhyped. But lets look at it this way Brock has beaten some top competition in the premiere organization but has shown alot of holes in his game Overeem is in a secondary organization and hasnt even fought the man most people consider to be the best in that organization From this we can see that we are dealing with two overhyped fighters. They both have skill to be champs in their respective organizations but neither has proven to me at least that they deserve they hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoryMacdonaldisabeast Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 who has overeem beat? someone enlighten me please..... way too much hype these fedor nutthuggers/ ufc haters will do anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad780 Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 I must admit that I think Overeem is Lesnar's poison as of right now. This is what came to mind watching the fight. Lesnar needs to improve some things if he's to win agains this guy if the chance ever comes. The question is though how is his take down defense. Also' date=' Technique has it right; that being the possibility for Overeem to gas even faster given his rediculous stature.[/quote'] was carloss his poison as well as mir and couture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMCBK Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 They are both warriors, but i think Brock would take Overeem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookster Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 there is no hype around overeem its the ufc that hype the sh!t out of the fighters like lesnar,then he runs and cowers like a girl from carwin overeem is no hype he's a in a different league from brock and would smash him to pieces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMCBK Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 there is no hype around overeem its the ufc that hype the sh!t out of the fighters like lesnar' date='then he runs and cowers like a girl from carwin overeem is no hype he's a in a different league from brock and would smash him to pieces[/quote'] What do you mean by different league? I would have thought the opponents Brock has fought were of a higher level than that of overeem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOGMAN Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Overeem has lost to Shogun twice, Lil Nog twice, Chuck Liddell, and had a no contest against Cro Cop. Lesnar would smash all of the above. Granted, these guys were in there prime when the fought, but c'mon man. Lesnar would take Overeem down at will, and grind out a decision or a TKO victory. Basically Overeem = Carwin - Wrestling Background Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad780 Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 there is no hype around overeem its the ufc that hype the sh!t out of the fighters like lesnar' date='then he runs and cowers like a girl from carwin overeem is no hype he's a in a different league from brock and would smash him to pieces[/quote'] first fedor, now overeem? plz stop trolling and watch mma, and plz dont reply that you have been watching mma since pride and ufc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachoMan Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 please, overeem got beat by that no talent joker chuck liddell there should be a special place in hell for dudes that still get beat by the likes of chuck and coleman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMCBK Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 please' date=' overeem got beat by that no talent joker chuck liddell there should be a special place in hell for dudes that still get beat by the likes of chuck and coleman[/quote'] OOOOOH YEEEAA the macho man talks alot of crap OOOHHH YEEEAAA!! c'mon...no talent joker chuck liddell HAHAHAHA..you mean the most popular UFC fighter of all time????? whole lot of OOOOOH YEEEEEA....crap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcruse82 Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Do you really believe Overeem would have a snowballs chance in hell of being able to stop Brocks takedowns. He would take him down at will and pound him the f#@k out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavemanJesus Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Basically Overeem = Carwin - Wrestling Background What are you talking about.......Overeem is a Grappler from the get go. Its has been mostly his striking he's been known for, but he is a serious grappler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickTF Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 was carloss his poison as well as mir and couture Look you won't find a bigger Lesnar fan than myself (well a non insane one) but I think Overeem poses some interesting questions. Like I originally added to my first reply in this thread, Overeem will have to be able to stop the Lesnar take down to win and I admit i'm not incredibly knowledgeable on Overeem only what short vids i've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2WW Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Undeniable' date=' he would murder him with strikes in the first round, and he would not gas out like carwin did, Really Overeem is in a different class as bock bock, hes a step up from lesnar. His striking has improved so much, man what he would do to him, now THATS a fight I would buy[/quote'] u is trollin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMCBK Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 u is trollin lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaptorStrike Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Undeniable' date=' he would murder him with strikes in the first round, and he would not gas out like carwin did, Really Overeem is in a different class as bock bock, hes a step up from lesnar. His striking has improved so much, man what he would do to him, now THATS a fight I would buy[/quote'] i remember how people like u said the same about Carwin. Epic Fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portorockxxl Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 lay off that pipe that meth is bad for u , make u say silly sh*t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labyrinthic Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 i remember how people like u said the same about Carwin. Epic Fail ouch!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VomitPuke Posted July 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 there is no hype around overeem its the ufc that hype the sh!t out of the fighters like lesnar' date='then he runs and cowers like a girl from carwin overeem is no hype he's a in a different league from brock and would smash him to pieces[/quote'] WOW FINALLY someone who has a clue thanks for the great opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookster Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 What do you mean by different league? I would have thought the opponents Brock has fought were of a higher level than that of overeem skill level' date='overeem is ten times the fighter first fedor, now overeem? plz stop trolling and watch mma, and plz dont reply that you have been watching mma since pride and ufc 1 why you bringing up fedor?im suprized you know who he is kid get back to your wwe posters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liljarheadjer Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Dude what in the world are u smoking, or have u just been hit in the head too many times, Overeem fails at lightheavyweight to shogun twice, little nog, so he throws a bunch of steroids into himself and starts to beat not even 2nd rate fighters but like 4th rate fighters.... and you wanna say he'd murder Lesnar? Everybody on Lesnars list would take Overeem hell Herring could take Overeem, He hasnt won or faced anybody good since his light heavyweight run and even there he sucked, once he beats a guy top 20 maybe ill see him beating like Kongo or something LMAO, Overeem is the most overly hyped steroid ****** in MMA, Lesnar has actually beaten good opponents and didnt even take much damage in the Carwin fight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMB Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Undeniable' date=' he would murder him with strikes in the first round, and he would not gas out like carwin did, Really Overeem is in a different class as bock bock, hes a step up from lesnar. His striking has improved so much, man what he would do to him, now THATS a fight I would buy[/quote'] Bock Mir is the P4P Champ of the world and he is gonna prove it on September 31st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labyrinthic Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 skill level' date='overeem is ten times the fighter why you bringing up fedor?im suprized you know who he is kid get back to your wwe posters[/quote'] Ten times the fighter? GTFO,you Dutch or something? Cause I am, and even im not that delusional.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raoullduke Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Undeniable' date=' he would murder him with strikes in the first round, and he would not gas out like carwin did, Really Overeem is in a different class as bock bock, hes a step up from lesnar. His striking has improved so much, man what he would do to him, now THATS a fight I would buy[/quote'] yes all of this is true. your logic is undisputable, if you take brocks wrestling out of the equasion. once its added in though things become slightly less straight forward though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceLeePhenom Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Overeem will Destroy Brock. I want to see Alistair vs JDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMB Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Overeem will Destroy Brock. I want to see Alistair vs JDS Bock Mir is unbeatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMCBK Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Ten times the fighter? GTFO' date='you Dutch or something? Cause I am, and even im not that delusional..[/quote'] Good luck in the world cup final...come on holland!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deaDBird Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Theres no doubt Overeem has the skills to beat lesnar...on all aspects of MMA Overeem is the better fighter, he has the experience, strength, and stand up to destroy Brock...I just wanna see him in another fight in HW, see how he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurilio Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Undeniable' date=' he would murder him with strikes in the first round, and he would not gas out like carwin did, Really Overeem is in a different class as bock bock, hes a step up from lesnar. His striking has improved so much, man what he would do to him, now THATS a fight I would buy[/quote'] Yeah, I thought the same thing too. I was thinking Overeem would do the exact same thing Carwin did except for gassing...then I remembered Overeem isn't half the wrestler Carwin is. I think Brock would take him down within the first minute and turn off the lights on him. Good night, Overeem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdGOAT Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 No lol. Carwin's power is superior to that Overeem and Brock took those shots like a champ. But a better conditioned Carwin would have won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labyrinthic Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Good luck in the world cup final...come on holland!! Haha thankz, we will need it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claxp94 Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 skill level' date='overeem is ten times the fighter[/quote'] i'm not suprised you're saying hanna montana is 10x's the fighter. don't let your hate cloud your judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deaDBird Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 No lol. Carwin's power is superior to that Overeem and Brock took those shots like a champ. But a better conditioned Carwin would have won. why do people keep thinking that just cause Carwin has powerful hands that Brock cant be KO'd? are Carwin's punches more powerful the Overeems? yes. Does this mean Overeem cant KO Brock? no. Overeem's punches may not be as powerful as Carwin's but his striking is better, So while Overeems punches might not be as powerful as Carwin's he will hitting Brock in the same spot over and over again and he will fall .Overeem's superior striking is what will finish Brock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deaDBird Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 i'm not suprised you're saying hanna montana is 10x's the fighter. don't let your hate cloud your judgement. what he said is true, tell me 1 thing other than wrestling that Brock is superior skill wise in MMA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdGOAT Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 why do people keep thinking that just cause Carwin has powerful hands that Brock cant be KO'd? are Carwin's punches more powerful the Overeems? yes. Does this mean Overeem cant KO Brock? no. Overeem's punches may not be as powerful as Carwin's but his striking is better' date=' So while Overeems punches might not be as powerful as Carwin's he will hitting Brock in the same spot over and over again and he will fall .Overeem's superior striking is what will finish Brock[/quote'] I'm not saying he can't. Anyone can if they get hit on the button but Brock has a good chin, and it's hard to KO someone from your back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocforums Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Yeah' date=' I thought the same thing too. I was thinking Overeem would do the exact same thing Carwin did except for gassing...then I remembered Overeem isn't half the wrestler Carwin is. I think Brock would take him down within the first minute and turn off the lights on him. Good night, Overeem.[/quote'] Do you really believe Overeem would have a snowballs chance in hell of being able to stop Brocks takedowns. He would take him down at will and pound him the f#@k out. well brock and his takedowns were no where to b seen in the first round ..so that tells me if there was a second round kind like the first then hmmm brocks takedowns dont matter much please' date=' overeem got beat by that no talent joker chuck liddell there should be a special place in hell for dudes that still get beat by the likes of chuck and coleman[/quote'] chuck was 7 years ago (whenhe was 23) and he was no where near what he is now (overeem that is) .... and i cant figure out the coleman thing .. never happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adambomber Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 To OP....did you not see the Carwin fight? before the fight the Brocktards where sayig Carwins standup was overrated and Brock himself said he was better than Carwin standing Then in the fight Brock is so afraid of striking with Carwin he runs and turtles up on the ground Brock has the worst striking of any fighter in the ufc, in any division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookster Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Ten times the fighter? GTFO' date='you Dutch or something? Cause I am, and even im not that delusional..[/quote'] well seen as ur dutch then you should know that overeem is far the superior fighter to brock!!!theres no excuse for you!! whats your deal?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yerbo Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 what he said is true' date=' tell me 1 thing other than wrestling that Brock is superior skill wise in MMA[/quote'] He doesn't need more skill to win, he has the physical attributes and toughness to more than make up for the lack of skills. Though with time his skills will improve. Sub of the night ain't a bad way to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raps43 Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Undeniable' date=' he would murder him with strikes in the first round, and he would not gas out like carwin did, Really Overeem is in a different class as bock bock, hes a step up from lesnar. His striking has improved so much, man what he would do to him, now THATS a fight I would buy[/quote']Give him some banana bread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
button_man Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 overeem has a big chance on defeating brock,he has improved his striking.but he also has to be very intelligent on the ground,for sure brock will force him a TD,but thats the opportunity if knocking him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czombie1 Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Undeniable' date=' he would murder him with strikes in the first round, and he would not gas out like carwin did, Really Overeem is in a different class as bock bock, hes a step up from lesnar. His striking has improved so much, man what he would do to him, now THATS a fight I would buy[/quote'] Oh really....because of all the top notch fighers that he's faced and murdered right., especially in the last 2.5 years. don't be gay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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