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GSP poses a bigger threat to Anderson than Shogun does.

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The reasons for this shall be stated below:

 

1. Anderson Silva is the best striker in the world/Shogun is a striker.

2. GSP is the best wrestler in the world IMO/Anderson couldn't defend his takedowns.

3. Shogun's agressive style would likely fit Anderson's counter striking perfectly.

4. GSP is one of the best technical strikers in all of MMA, and he mixes it beautifully with his wrestling. This is why he's been abe to outstrike all of his opponents.

5. GSP is a better all around figher than Shogun is.

 

Discuss.....

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claxp94

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Incorrect. GSP is 10 times better striker than Sonnen with better sub defense.

If he fought the spider, rush would be the smaller fighter for the first time in his entire career. that would not go well with him and would get beaten worse than sonnen will.

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Furiousmat

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agreed but for the GSP is a very technical striker...

 

Well I agree that he is very technical, but I don't think that because he mixes it up he would dominate the stand up. I think in this particular fight he really would be forced to go to the ground. There is no way he can stand with Anderson. His only option is to take it to the ground.

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Maurilio

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10 times? thats a big number coming from a 13 year old. shogun much better. and bigger

 

Bigger - yes. Better - no. If Rua was better, he would also be a contender for the p4p best fighter, but he isn't Only GSP and Silva are mentioned by the majority when asked who is the best fighter pound for pound.

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Bigger - yes. Better - no. If Rua was better' date=' he would also be a contender for the p4p best fighter, but he isn't Only GSP and Silva are mentioned by the majority when asked who is the best fighter pound for pound.[/quote']

 

im talking about styles. styleisticlly, shogun is a better match up to beat anderson that gsp .

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im talking about styles. styleisticlly' date=' shogun is a better match up to beat anderson that gsp .[/quote']

 

I have to respectfully disagree.

 

Putting up a good striker vs the best striker in MMA isn't a good match up. The better match up and a classic match up is the best striker against possibly the best ground fighter in MMA.

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I personally think Shogun will get destroyed if he fought Anderson. GSP will do better but not much better because GSP will be the smaller and weaker of the 2 . I think Rashad matches well vs Anderson since he is a bigger guy than gsp and Maybe Jones can beat the spider if he keeps getting better.

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I have to respectfully disagree.

 

Putting up a good striker vs the best striker in MMA isn't a good match up. The better match up and a classic match up is the best striker against possibly the best ground fighter in MMA.

 

shogun isnt just a striker you know that right? he's got some of the best sweeps in the game.

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Furiousmat

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GSP is a mini version of Sonnen.

Shogun is well rounded and dangerous in all areas.

 

/thread.

 

GSP has absolutely nothing to do with Sonnen.

 

The only point they have in common is that they both use wrestling... But that is ALL sonnen has. GSP probly has even superior wrestling than Sonnen, but also is a legitimate BJJ black belt as well as a kyokushin karate black belt and has some of the best striking in his division.

 

GSP compared to MMA caliber

wrestling : 10/10

BJJ : 8-9/10

striking : 7-8/10

 

Sonnen compared to MMA caliber

wrestling : 9-10/10

BJJ : 4-5/10 (at least he's supposed to have worked on sub defense..)

striking : 3-4/10

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Stylisticly, GSP has the better Chance to beat Anderson.

 

Shoguns striking can be pretty wild sometimes, and that plays right into Andersons counter striking gameplan. Anderson striking is too accurate + Shoguns aggressivness = TKO, He would catch Shogun eventually, not a one punch KO but a TKO for sure.

 

With GSP though, I think hes too undersized for Anderson, If hes was Shoguns size, i might even Say GSP would for sure win. But the size difference is too much,

 

GSP = 5'10, 190lbs, 75"reach.

Silva = 6'2, 210lbs, 77.5" reach.

 

I think Anderson would use his superior reach/speed to get a TKO victory.

 

After UFC 117, we'll know how Anderson would do against GSP, If Anderson can succesfully defend some of Sonnens takedowns (he will not defend them all, thats for sure), Then he should do fairly well against a much smaller GSP. IMO

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Shogun would knock the grease off St Pierre's back and batter Anderson's twigs he calls legs with leg kicks.

 

Anderson wouldn't be able to dance after a few good kicks. Without the ability to dance what does that leave him? Nothing...

 

Shogun wouldn't be able to stand long enough to strike with St. Pierre.

 

And I don't know, Rua might break his knees trying to kick Anderson.

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Shogun would knock the grease off St Pierre's back and batter Anderson's twigs he calls legs with leg kicks.

 

Anderson wouldn't be able to dance after a few good kicks. Without the ability to dance what does that leave him? Nothing...

 

your absolutely right man, wow. i cant believe ive never noticed this.

 

Andersons pin point accurate strikes, Andersons superior speed to almost everyone one, Andersons Black belt in BJJ, Judo, and taekwondo, and his yellow rope in Capoeira is all because he can dance. Dam, take away his dancing and hes gonna lose to everyone...

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If he fought the spider' date=' rush would be the smaller fighter for the first time in his entire career. that would not go well with him and would get beaten worse than sonnen will.[/quote']

 

after 8000 posts on this forum do you really need to be told that GSP was smaller than Alves and Hardy by a good margin? or are you just trolling?

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shogun isnt just a striker you know that right? he's got some of the best sweeps in the game.

 

who cares of the sweeps. If the fight goes to the ground, anderson obviously prefers to be on his back than on top. When he's on top he just escapes and stand up. You won't see him GnP. And when it's on the feet, Anderson has the advantage.

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your absolutely right man' date=' wow. i cant believe ive never noticed this.

 

Andersons pin point accurate strikes, Andersons superior speed to almost everyone one, Andersons Black belt in BJJ, Judo, and taekwondo, and his yellow rope in Capoeira is all because he can dance. Dam, take away his dancing and hes gonna lose to everyone...[/quote']

 

Thank you sir! Anderson might buckle from a single leg kick and then Shogun proceeds to f*ck him up. Anderson saw what happened to Lyoto twice and he wants nothing to do with Shogun. He even recently said he's not going up in weight to go after the belt and that there will always be new challenges at 185.

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The reasons for this shall be stated below:

 

1. Anderson Silva is the best striker in the world/Shogun is a striker.

2. GSP is the best wrestler in the world IMO/Anderson couldn't defend his takedowns.

3. Shogun's agressive style would likely fit Anderson's counter striking perfectly.

4. GSP is one of the best technical strikers in all of MMA' date=' and he mixes it beautifully with his wrestling. This is why he's been abe to outstrike all of his opponents.

5. GSP is a better all around figher than Shogun is.

 

Discuss.....[/quote']

 

best wrestler in the world? he can barely make the olympics dude. but its stil true that anderson couldnt defend his take downs. gsp was also submitted by armbar. anderson could catch him. also shogun is a lot heavier then gsp.

+ anderson best striker in the world? lol really buddy? if he was he would be a boxer.

 

Shogun>Silva>GSP

 

as much as i like gsp ( my fav ) he would loose.

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best wrestler in the world? he can barely make the olympics dude. but its stil true that anderson couldnt defend his take downs. gsp was also submitted by armbar. anderson could catch him. also shogun is a lot heavier then gsp.

+ anderson best striker in the world? lol really buddy? if he was he would be a boxer.

 

Shogun>Silva>GSP

 

as much as i like gsp ( my fav ) he would loose.

 

silva has done a few boxing matches before which he won. and just cus gsp got caught in an armbar by the best wreslter in mma at the time while he was still learning wrestling doesnt mean ****. Its funny since 2 of Anderson's 4 losses are by submission but yet he cant get caught. If GSP takes his time and puts weight on properly and executes his gameplan perfectly theres no reason he couldnt have a chance. also when have we seen anderson go through a 5 round grind?? never but gsp can do 5rds and then some

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If Greasy St Pierre thinks that a natural 155er that is 5'5" hits hard then I can only imagine his reaction to a strike from Anderson. One single strike and it's lights out.

 

This fight would be f*cking embarassing because Anderson is big enough to tie Georges up and have the ref stand it up if Georges even gets the takedown without eating a knee that puts him on q u e e r street in the process.

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silva has done a few boxing matches before which he won. and just cus gsp got caught in an armbar by the best wreslter in mma at the time while he was still learning wrestling doesnt mean ****. Its funny since 2 of Anderson's 4 losses are by submission but yet he cant get caught. If GSP takes his time and puts weight on properly and executes his gameplan perfectly theres no reason he couldnt have a chance. also when have we seen anderson go through a 5 round grind?? never but gsp can do 5rds and then some

 

lol never? 2 of his title defenses went all 5 rounds buddy.

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those were not grinders..him bouncing around failing to engage while being booed by 12' date='000 people are not even close[/quote']

 

Your right they were pathetic fights I thought you meant he had never been 5 rounds before.

 

It still doesn't matter because he would knock the grease off GSP in the first or second round though.

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Anderson won't lose to a pure wrestler or pure BJJ fighter' date=' he tanks them every time. He needs to fight a fast world-class striker, I think shogun could show him a goof challenge. GSP can't strike and would get tooled in the first.

 

/thread.[/quote']

 

I truly dont think Shogun is well condition enough i think his knee effects his training too much but just a thought

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Anderson won't lose to a pure wrestler or pure BJJ fighter' date=' he tanks them every time. He needs to fight a fast world-class striker, I think shogun could show him a goof challenge. GSP can't strike and would get tooled in the first.

 

/thread.[/quote']

 

GSP cant strike ? He the number in UFC history at stand up hit landed .

 

U must be stupid or uneducated to make this kind of comment .

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Your right they were pathetic fights I thought you meant he had never been 5 rounds before.

 

It still doesn't matter because he would knock the grease off GSP in the first or second round though.

 

HATER !

 

** GSP dominate ur favorite fighter and u cant take it ? I feel sad for u kids .

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GSP cant strike ? He the number in UFC history at stand up hit landed .

 

U must be stupid or uneducated to make this kind of comment .

 

why do you constantly defend gsp? you idolize him like he is some kind of god and can't accept that gsp isn't the greatest fighter in all aspects of fighting. he is good on all levels but he's great at nothing.

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why do you constantly defend gsp? you idolize him like he is some kind of god and can't accept that gsp isn't the greatest fighter in all aspects of fighting. he is good on all levels but he's great at nothing.

 

I disagree with that statement i am a big GSP and i will agree with the fact that he is not a good striker as Silva. But i think it can definitely be said that GSP is a great wrestler. Look at the credentials of all his opponents and he has out wrestled and out grappled them. He's out wrestled numerous national champion and if thats not great i would like you to show me otherwise. GSP is great as other things that are just as important such as conditioning,executing a gameplan,flowing his techniques and his work ethic.

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The reasons for this shall be stated below:

 

1. Anderson Silva is the best striker in the world/Shogun is a striker.

2. GSP is the best wrestler in the world IMO/Anderson couldn't defend his takedowns.

3. Shogun's agressive style would likely fit Anderson's counter striking perfectly.

4. GSP is one of the best technical strikers in all of MMA' date=' and he mixes it beautifully with his wrestling. This is why he's been abe to outstrike all of his opponents.

5. GSP is a better all around figher than Shogun is.

 

Discuss.....[/quote']

 

GSP is a much bigger test than Shogun, Anderson would still beat both.

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why do you constantly defend gsp? you idolize him like he is some kind of god and can't accept that gsp isn't the greatest fighter in all aspects of fighting. he is good on all levels but he's great at nothing.

 

I dont defend him , i only bring the truth in false comment .

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The reasons for this shall be stated below:

 

1. Anderson Silva is the best striker in the world/Shogun is a striker.

2. GSP is the best wrestler in the world IMO/Anderson couldn't defend his takedowns.

3. Shogun's agressive style would likely fit Anderson's counter striking perfectly.

4. GSP is one of the best technical strikers in all of MMA' date=' and he mixes it beautifully with his wrestling. This is why he's been abe to outstrike all of his opponents.

5. GSP is a better all around figher than Shogun is.

 

Discuss.....[/quote']

 

I agree. Silva will knock Shogun out, probably pretty quickly. GSP is quick and powerful though, and could probably beat Silva to the touch, rip him down and lay on him. I still think Silva would take both fights on a good day.

 

I would give Shogun a punchers chance to put Silva's lights out.

 

And I'd give GSP a possible SD, given he avoids any possible strike with power, and submissions for 3-5 rounds.

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