stevebo413 Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Is there any way to see if you have a good chin besides getting punched i always wondered if i did but today i had to spar this 200 pound guy (im only 145 and im 16)and i found out i have a good chin even know everytime he hit me it felt like i was getting smacked by a hammer But im wondering if there is another way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor_Obviously Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 I think bone structure plays a big part. Leben's jaw bone is probably 3 inches thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebo413 Posted July 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 I think bone structure plays a big part. Leben's jaw bone is probably 3 inches thick. Is there like a way to see how thick it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderProdigy Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 who needs an iron chin ? Stephan Bonnar survives off pure determination and heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous505 Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 A strong neck has something to do with it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 X-ray I suppose. I kind of agree with Doc but having a thick jaw or big jaw doesn't necessarily mean you can take a heavy blow and be fine. I think it plays some part there's alot of other factors as well. Generally sharp angles are not good to have. For evidence of this look at people like Mark Hunt, Cabbage, BJ Penn, Wanderlei etc. etc. Lets say a blow lands on someone with a sharp pointy angular jaw. If it lands on a certain point the impact is much greater over this smaller surface. However if it lands on a more rounded jaw the impact point is spread out over a larger area. This isn't the case always but just my own little theory. Some people just have it some don't regardless of structure. As mentioned a strong neck can also help absorb some of the whiplash effect that scrambles the brain but still doesn't always necessarily mean that person can take a heavy shot. I've knocked out too many meatheads to prove that theory wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobbomb Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 who needs an iron chin ? Stephan Bonnar survives off pure determination and heart not true, if bonnar had Liddells chin, all the heart in the world doesnt matter if your ktfo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobbomb Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Is there any way to see if you have a good chin besides getting punched i always wondered if i did but today i had to spar this 200 pound guy (im only 145 and im 16)and i found out i have a good chin even know everytime he hit me it felt like i was getting smacked by a hammer But im wondering if there is another way? this doesnt mean you have a good chin, depends where he hit you, with what force he hit you etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderProdigy Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 not true' date=' if bonnar had Liddells chin, all the heart in the world doesnt matter if your ktfo[/quote'] Liddell had a great chin, until he hit what seems to be a damaged nerve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebo413 Posted July 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Thanks for all the help guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobbomb Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Liddell had a great chin' date=' until he hit what seems to be a damaged nerve.[/quote'] He did, he doesnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderProdigy Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 He did' date=' he doesnt[/quote'] i know that, because of what once again seems to be a damaged nerve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor_Obviously Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Who knows what they do to mouthpieces so fighters don't have as many concussions? By the way, it seems to be a myth: http://dentistry.about.com/od/issuesandemergencies/f/concussion.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RampageTKO Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Is there any way to see if you have a good chin besides getting punched i always wondered if i did but today i had to spar this 200 pound guy (im only 145 and im 16)and i found out i have a good chin even know everytime he hit me it felt like i was getting smacked by a hammer But im wondering if there is another way? hey i noticed you have a sig bet with dcent, to bad if he loses hes not going to fulfill his end of the deal read his sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 i know that' date=' because of what once again seems to be a damaged nerve.[/quote'] I really think his brain just can't take repeated impacts anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimpygimpet Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 A strong neck has something to do with it too I work my neck all the time for wrestling we have machines just for the neck muscles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebo413 Posted July 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 hey i noticed you have a sig bet with dcent' date=' to bad if he loses hes not going to fulfill his end of the deal read his sig[/quote'] Oh?why is that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobbomb Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Oh?why is that his sig used to say " i do not honor sig bets " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderProdigy Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 I really think his brain just can't take repeated impacts anymore. yeah its some thing along those lines, no disrespect for Franklin but he really just kinda threw a short jab and Liddell was clean out. I just think that whenever he gets hit, the brain shuts him down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebo413 Posted July 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 his sig used to say " i do not honor sig bets " Oh so if he wins should i just not do it ha jk i have respect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Who knows what they do to mouthpieces so fighters don't have as many concussions? By the way' date=' it seems to be a myth: http://dentistry.about.com/od/issuesandemergencies/f/concussion.htm[/quote'] Interesting. Ive never really heard mouth pieces claming to prevent concussion. It just protects your teeth from going through your lip and somewhat from teeth getting knocked out. My understanding of KO's is your brain is surrounded by fluid and a high velosity impact makes your brain slam into your skull. If it hits hard enough and your brain can't asbsorb the impact it's lights out. How the f*uck would a mouthpiece prevent that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMA_IS_LIFE Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 well i think if your head is big like leben's, bj's, cabbage's etc. the shot to the head is transmitted over a bigger area. If your head is smaller then the impact of the shot is dispersed over a smaller area, im not sure if this is correct or not tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMA_IS_LIFE Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Interesting. Ive never really heard mouth pieces claming to prevent concussion. It just protects your teeth from going through your lip and somewhat from teeth getting knocked out. My understanding of KO's is your brain is surrounded by fluid and a high velosity impact makes your brain slam into your skull. If it hits hard enough and your brain can't asbsorb the impact it's lights out. How the f*uck would a mouthpiece prevent that? well i play hockey and we were mouthguard's to prevent concussions. If you fall and hit your jaw off the ground the mouthguard prevents the jaw from hitting your upper jaw, and if your not the impact could if hard enough send a shock through your jaw resulting in a cuncuion. Don't know if this makes sense to anyone, or if it would have the same principles in mma, im not very good at explaning things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 well i play hockey and we were mouthguard's to prevent concussions. If you fall and hit your jaw off the ground the mouthguard prevents the jaw from hitting your upper jaw' date=' and if your not the impact could if hard enough send a shock through your jaw resulting in a cuncuion. Don't know if this makes sense to anyone, or if it would have the same principles in mma, im not very good at explaning things.[/quote'] Same thing could be said for biting down hard though with no mouthpiece at all. I really don't think it acts as any kind of shock absorber but Im can't say for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebo413 Posted July 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Maybe they mean something els because i seen this show baki the grappler and this guy bit on something that looked like a mouth guard but it like made his jaw stronger ha idk im kinda talking out of my butt maybe if someone els saw it they could explain better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobbomb Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Maybe they mean something els because i seen this show baki the grappler and this guy bit on something that looked like a mouth guard but it like made his jaw stronger ha idk im kinda talking out of my butt maybe if someone els saw it they could explain better well a mouthpiece will absorb some of the shock sent into the top teeth from the bottom teeth distribution of force over a larger area is a big deal when preventing injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIMBOB Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Big heads are good for the same reason big hands are good, they are heavier so their momentum/inertia is greater. Big heads means you brain acellerates slower than it would otherwise. I think mouth gaurds would stop a few concussions as say a upper cut land on your jaw. the shock can travel from Jaw to tooth to tooth to skull, That is all hard tissue. or Jaw to tooth to mouthguard to tooth to skull which incluldes a impact reducing plastic. Even just a liltte bit of shock absorption would help if the impact is on the jaw. There is some discussion about having your mouth clamped around a mouthguard would actually help even of the blow was to say your temple or any part of the face which covers your skull (ie not your jaw). I don't know enough for an opinion on that. Rounded jaws are a older human trait (no I am not calling them cave men) from a time when humans needed to be tougher and so the round jaw is more an indicator to a heavier bone structure. Also a rounded jaw is harder to catch cleanly with a glancing strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_A Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Is there like a way to see how thick it is? Pay for an X-ray? Other then that you can see jaw structure and neck muscle pretty well just from looking at someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_A Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 I work my neck all the time for wrestling we have machines just for the neck muscles. We had those for football too. Ever since Pee wee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibberish Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 taken from 2belows thread sick of getting ko'd It's no medical secret that when you get popped on "the button" the light bulb in your head is going to flicker and burn out for a few seconds up to a minute or so. So let me ask you this: 1. Do you hate looking like Rashad after the Machida fight? 2. Are you sick of getting knocked out when someone catches and counters your body/leg kick? 3. You definitely don't want to be looking like Keith Jardine after the Ryan Bader bout, right? Well, as we all know, MMA's lifelong question has been, and will always be, how do I get a stronger chin? For the men listed above it is too late, but for you it could be just in time. I was at the Lion's den and Roy Nelson came up to me and said: "Dude, your chin is looking mean, what's your secret?" And this is when I unveiled the great truth. I pulled out a pack of Bazooka Joe gum from my waistband and said, "Shhh, this can be our little secret." As you all can see, Roy Nelson hasn't been getting knocked out since he entered the octagon. Why? I told him about the great truth. Chewing gum for 5-6 hours a day will beef up your chin beyond belief. You can work out your neck and shoulders all you want, but you are always going to miss the area that matters most. Since I started my gum regiment I have seen an inch thick layer of muscle form over the area referred to as "the button". Now, you don't want to over-train your chin so I suggest starting out with less resistance. I am on Bazooka Joe level which has the most gum-resistance, but I began with Fruit Stripe, the fruity zebra gum. Fruit Stripe is almost like chewing on paper. It's very flexible and will get your chin on the move. If you find this resistance to be too weak, then you can move up to Trident or Stride. These are medium resistance gums that will ensure you at least a quarter inch of muscle mass added to your chin. If you think you're ready, the gum with most resistance is Bazooka Joe. This stuff will work your chin into overdrive. Like I said, I do it for 5-6 hours a day and I have seen tremendous results. The secret to my patent pending regiment is the gum initially burns unwanted calories from your chin, and as the chewing continues and resistance grows, muscle will begin to form. It's very simple and risk free. Just ask Randy Couture: "I have been on the Trident Layers regiment for 3 years now and I'm 46 years old. How do you think I still compete? 2below's training regiment is more effective than the Tower 200. Let's go princess" - Randy Couture If you are still skeptical listen to former LHW champ Forrest Griffin: "Remember when I beat Shogun and Rampage and became LHW champ? And remember when I got KTFO'D by Rashad and Anderson? Well I wasn't on my gum regiment for the latter 2. My chin became weak and I became vulnerable. I started chewing again and beat Tito Ortiz. This is the real deal folks" - Forrest Griffin This is no joke people. So let's recap. - Start with a low resistance gum to get your chin used to the training. Don't want to overdo it and cause injury. - Move up and chew for about 3 hours a day on Trident or Stride. This is when you'll see muscle growth. - Train for 5-6 hours with Bazooka Joe to maximize results. I haven't been knocked out, ever, and I've been training since day 1 with this regiment. Burn calories, gain muscle, don't get KTFO. Fool proof system endorsed by MMA veterans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_vaessen Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 It's mostly natural. Native people have better chins than any other race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunianbulldog Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 ....Hmmmmmm ask Clay Garida (spl) That guys chin is made from granite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunianbulldog Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 It's mostly natural. Native people have better chins than any other race. LOL When you say native? Do you mean, as in anybody from their own country ie Europe, Americas, Africans, or Asian? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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