Infamous505 Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 I think this would be a great match up anybody else think so, i think rich franklin can be a big threat in the LHW divison,personally i think Rich Franklin would beat Shogun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claxp94 Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Don't get me wrong I like Ace but Shogun would beat him worse than Phenom did. EDIT: I would love to see Ace v Little Nog however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimpygimpet Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Rich's run for the title is over. I like Rich but he couldn't beat Shogun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6Tnine Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Would be a good fight, I like both guys. But until we see Franklin fight some more top guys in the LHW division, im gonna have to say Shogun would win. Solely based on the fact that Shogun has been more impressive lately. That being said, Franklin is no push over. He has 4 losses in the UFC. 2 are from Anderson Silva - definately no shame in that. another from a very very controversial loss to Dan Henderson and Vitor Belfort - No shame in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmarrissey Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 I hope he makes it, but Shogun wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorporalClegg Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Yeah Franklin is great at defending in the muay thai clinch! lol Rua would rape the sh*t out of Franklin. Chuck was beating his **** and just let the gameplan go out the god damn window and left himself open to be countered. If Chuck and Rich would have fought during both of their primes Chuck would have been able to eat that punch and beat Rich down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderProdigy Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 personally i think Shogun would destroy Rich, i also think he won't crack Top 5 UFC LHW's, and won't go far past the 10th spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous505 Posted July 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 i dont know i just have a gut feeling if they would fight Rich Franklin would win i dont know why sounds crazy and all it probably is crazy but i dont kno haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUF127 Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 I'm sorry but I don't want to see this fight. They are both two of my favorite fighters but I don't want to see Franklin murdered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderProdigy Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 i dont know i just have a gut feeling if they would fight Rich Franklin would win i dont know why sounds crazy and all it probably is crazy but i dont kno haha i could see Shogun losing his title to a lot of people ... after serious surgery that is. 100% maybe Machida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous505 Posted July 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 i could see Shogun losing his title to a lot of people ... after serious surgery that is. 100% maybe Machida. ya i think Rashad will beat Shogun using his wrestling because maybe Shoguns knees my be weak or whatever he might not be able to Defend a takedown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderProdigy Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 ya i think Rashad will beat Shogun using his wrestling because maybe Shoguns knees my be weak or whatever he might not be able to Defend a takedown i hate Rashad with a passion so i can not condone of him winning any fights, but even when i look at it i don't see how Rashad would win unless Shogun was not at 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coreyflipp Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Rich Franklin is a major contender. He comes in with a game plan like couture, has great cardio, very underestimated stand up, and can adapt to bad situations. I think he is a major threat to any lhw, including shogun. He should not be overlooked because of his loss to vitor. It wouldn't suprise if we see ace in a title fight or even a champ again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6Tnine Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Yeah i dont see Rashad beating Shogun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_A Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 I would love to see this fight. Shogun has all the advantages but Ace can take a lot of punishment and keep throwing hard shots. Theres a strong possibility of seeing him counter Rua into a K.O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmarrissey Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 I can see Franklin getting in the express lane for a title belt because he's a big name, former champ who just took out a former champ and a Machida rematch is way too early.... Rampage, Forest, Jon Jones, Bader will all probably need more fights by the time Shogun defends a 2nd time. But that's alot of ifs... all i'm saying is I could see it happening, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous505 Posted July 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Rich Franklin is a major contender. He comes in with a game plan like couture' date=' has great cardio, very underestimated stand up, and can adapt to bad situations. I think he is a major threat to any lhw, including shogun. He should not be overlooked because of his loss to vitor. It wouldn't suprise if we see ace in a title fight or even a champ again.[/quote'] ya i agree he is a great fighter i hate Rashad with a passion so i can not condone of him winning any fights' date=' but even when i look at it i don't see how Rashad would win unless Shogun was not at 100.[/quote'] You cant be blinded by hate, Rashad can beat Shogun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderProdigy Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 You cant be blinded by hate' date=' Rashad can beat Shogun[/quote'] im not blinded by hate i just see that Rashad falls to power punches, which Shogun is. I mean i love Rampage but Rampage hit him with two shots that barely connecting and Rashad was down, i also think that both his two previous wins would beat him in a re-match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor_Obviously Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 I think Rich Franklin has to fight Forrest now and then Shogun. Then all of our MMA math would be solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUF127 Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 im not blinded by hate i just see that Rashad falls to power punches' date=' which Shogun is. I mean i love Rampage but Rampage hit him with two shots that barely connecting and Rashad was down, i also think that both his two previous wins would beat him in a re-match[/quote'] Don't forget to mention Shogun's underrated BJJ game. Rashad will get killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderProdigy Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Don't forget to mention Shogun's underrated BJJ game.Rashad will get killed. i didn't forget, i just see it ending in KO more than sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous505 Posted July 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 im not blinded by hate i just see that Rashad falls to power punches' date=' which Shogun is. I mean i love Rampage but Rampage hit him with two shots that barely connecting and Rashad was down, i also think that both his two previous wins would beat him in a re-match[/quote'] ya i agree he probably has a weak chin i dont know maybe i like Thiago Silva so ya of course i think he could but i am not even a fan of Rashad but i just think he has what it takes to possible beat shogun but i wont mind him get KTFO so i can see a Shogun vs lil Nog 2 haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderProdigy Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 ya i agree he probably has a weak chin i dont know maybe i like Thiago Silva so ya of course i think he could but i am not even a fan of Rashad but i just think he has what it takes to possible beat shogun but i wont mind him get KTFO so i can see a Shogun vs lil Nog 2 haha Shogun vs Lil Nog 2 FTMFW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous505 Posted July 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Shogun vs Lil Nog 2 FTMFW what does that mean FTMFW?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderProdigy Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 what does that mean FTMFW?? for the mother eff'n win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimpygimpet Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 ya i think Rashad will beat Shogun using his wrestling because maybe Shoguns knees my be weak or whatever he might not be able to Defend a takedown Well of course he won't defend the take down. Rashad is this decent wrestler and Shogun doesn't have that great TDD but Shogun's BJJ will get him right back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikhail420 Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 I think this would be a great match up anybody else think so' date=' i think rich franklin can be a big threat in the LHW divison,personally i think Rich Franklin would beat Shogun...[/quote'] rich has what it takes to beat anybody.. i dont think vitor could do what he did ever again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUF127 Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 i didn't forget' date=' i just see it ending in KO more than sub.[/quote'] I see Rashad trying to go straight for the takedown. I doubt he's going to want to stand with Shogun and risk getting knocked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous505 Posted July 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 rich has what it takes to beat anybody.. i dont think vitor could do what he did ever again i dont know about that' date=' that was an impressive win from Vitor Well of course he won't defend the take down. Rashad is this decent wrestler and Shogun doesn't have that great TDD but Shogun's BJJ will get him right back up. maybe we will have to wait and see for the mother eff'n win so why did u say that cuz u want to see that matchup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claxp94 Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Well of course he won't defend the take down. Rashad is this decent wrestler and Shogun doesn't have that great TDD but Shogun's BJJ will get him right back up. Bad knee bro. Ala Coleman fight, he'll gas and Rashad will get a dry **** win. Sad, really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B00mer Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Shogun by turning into a dragon and biting off Franklin's head Fatality!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorinh Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 All of this talk about how supreme shogun is. I'm not taking anything away from the guy, but I'm shocked everyone just counts Rich Franklin out. He is the only fighter MAN enough to get dismantled by Anderson Silva, and then come back for seconds. Rich Franklin all the way over shogun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpedge Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 are you guys serious? Let him face some top competition first, Bader, Jones, Lil Nog.. Then up too Rampage, Machida, Rashad.. Not after one win against an old washed up man. Not only would he need 2 more wins against good competition, he would probably get pummeled by shogun. And this is from a franklin fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous505 Posted July 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 All of this talk about how supreme shogun is. I'm not taking anything away from the guy' date=' but I'm shocked everyone just counts Rich Franklin out. He is the only fighter MAN enough to get dismantled by Anderson Silva, and then come back for seconds. Rich Franklin all the way over shogun.[/quote'] Very True people on these forums count out alot of fighters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coreyflipp Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 All of this talk about how supreme shogun is. I'm not taking anything away from the guy' date=' but I'm shocked everyone just counts Rich Franklin out. He is the only fighter MAN enough to get dismantled by Anderson Silva, and then come back for seconds. Rich Franklin all the way over shogun.[/quote'] Amen brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimpygimpet Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 All of this talk about how supreme shogun is. I'm not taking anything away from the guy' date=' but I'm shocked everyone just counts Rich Franklin out. He is the only fighter MAN enough to get dismantled by Anderson Silva, and then come back for seconds. Rich Franklin all the way over shogun.[/quote'] Good first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatt4music Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 You are not crazy.Rich probably would beat Shogun.Rich has better cardio,knockout power and great gameplans.Shogun has not been as impressive as people keep saying.Dont forget his loss to Griffin.It really wasnt that long ago and his loss in the first Machida fight.People only seem to think of his wins.Ace is on a rampage i can see it happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B00mer Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Listen Franklin is a monster no question about it. But, look Shogun is the beast in the LHW div. I honestly thought Lyoto was the best in the world after he won that title from Evans because he was unstoppable in his fights and Shogun really won me over in the first and second fight. Shogun is really really good and thats not taking anything away from Franklin, but he just isn't on the same level. Franklin does have the ablility to make some noise in the divsion, but he won't touch gold again in the UFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cohea Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Huge fan of Rich, great guy, tough fighter and all... but I honestly don't see him being a top 5 lhw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpedge Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 You are not crazy.Rich probably would beat Shogun.Rich has better cardio' date='knockout power and great gameplans.Shogun has not been as impressive as people keep saying.Dont forget his loss to Griffin.It really wasnt that long ago and his loss in the first Machida fight.People only seem to think of his wins.Ace is on a rampage i can see it happening[/quote'] So losing to Hendy, then winning a decision over a fighter who should fight at 185(wandy), then getting KTFO by Belfort, then beating a washed up fighter is on a rampage? I would state that all these guys are legends, but cmon now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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