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Tim Sylvia is a 2 time champ though... its not like it was some kind of accident.

Maybe Carlos Newton, maybe Shane Carwin for interim HW championship.... which I dont think counts as a real championship. Also, we will have to see how Edgar does in the rematch because the original fight was questionable.

Not saying these guys are bad, they are just the least elite of the elite.

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Tim Sylvia is a 2 time champ though... its not like it was some kind of accident.

Maybe Carlos Newton' date=' maybe [b']Shane Carwin[/b] for interim HW championship.... which I dont think counts as a real championship. Also, we will have to see how Edgar does in the rematch because the original fight was questionable.

Not saying these guys are bad, they are just the least elite of the elite.

 

You think Carwin's bad?

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Tim Sylvia is a 2 time champ though... its not like it was some kind of accident.

Maybe Carlos Newton' date=' maybe Shane Carwin for interim HW championship.... which I dont think counts as a real championship. Also, we will have to see how Edgar does in the rematch because the original fight was questionable.

[b']Not saying these guys are bad, they are just the least elite of the elite[/b].

 

You think Carwin's bad?

 

No, no Im not.

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Same theory as the "Best to Never Hold a Title Thread"..

 

Except be real' date=' dont go and say something like Anderson Silva cuz u dont like him, ideally it should be someone who just won the belt and never defended it. Otherwise you wouldnt make sense.[/quote']

 

Tim Sylvia. He got a defense, but look at who they were against and the caliber of MMA heavyweights back then.

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BTW... "some_dude" elected me to be the leader of the Jon Jones bandwagon last evening' date=' so I regret to inform even though you are the conductor... i run the train. If you take issue with this, contact "some_dude"[/quote']

 

sorry bro gotta jump in here, just cause you have a sick avatar i am the original Jon Jones bandwagon freight train conductor! we went to HS together so i think i'm automatically elected right? :cool:

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Carlos Newton at WW. Dave Menne at MW. Tito Ortiz at LHW. Mark Coleman' date=' Maurice Smith and Kevin Randleman at HW.

 

Out of them all now Carlos Newton has a horrible record hovering around .500 Baroni style...[/quote']

 

I forgot about Randleman, or maybe blocked it out. Either way what a turd. He's probably worse then Sylvia

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sorry bro gotta jump in here' date=' just cause you have a sick avatar i am the original Jon Jones bandwagon freight train conductor! we went to HS together so i think i'm automatically elected right? :cool:[/quote']

 

is this true ?

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I forgot about Randleman' date=' or maybe blocked it out. Either way what a turd. He's probably worse then Sylvia[/quote']

 

Randleman is definitely worse then Poopie Pants. Carlos Newton and Dave Menne are worse then Sylvia. Tim Sylvia just doesn't have any fans and thats why his name keeps being brought up. He was 16-0 and a big underdog against Ricco and he went out there and destroyed him in the first round.

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Randleman is definitely worse then Poopie Pants. Carlos Newton and Dave Menne are worse then Sylvia. Tim Sylvia just doesn't have any fans and thats why his name keeps being brought up. He was 16-0 and a big underdog against Ricco and he went out there and destroyed him in the first round.

 

Sure he was 16-0 but look who it was against.

The toughest guys he fought were AA and ricco

AA's a chump. maybe top 20. And thats only giving him credit for a little past glory when the division was weaker.

 

And ricco's a mess. I dont know if you ever watched "fight quest" but they took a football player with no MMA experiance at all, gave him 2 days training and he beat Ricco.

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Sure he was 16-0 but look who it was against.

The toughest guys he fought were AA and ricco

AA's a chump. maybe top 20. And thats only giving him credit for a little past glory when the division was weaker.

 

And ricco's a mess. I dont know if you ever watched "fight quest" but they took a football player with no MMA experiance at all' date=' gave him 2 days training and he beat Ricco.[/quote']

 

Ricco is currently on like an 8 fight winning streak although most of his recent victims suck he did beat the sh*t out of Couture back in the day and I'm pretty sure Sylvia is the only one to ever knock Ricco out. Atleast from what I've seen and remember.

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Any champ that didn't at the very least defend it one time.

 

Sure Sylvia is TERRIBLE, but he defended it a couple times atleast even though the division sucked

 

From recent memory Griffen, Evans, Cough Cough Machida >:D, and who else oh yeah Page' defended it once.

 

Matt Serra won that one time against GSP because he clearly poisoned him before the fight. Then he lost it in the rematch. Carlos Newton and Dave Menne haha yeah them too, it was crazy back in the day when Menne was owned by Baroni after he already lost his title...

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Any champ that didn't at the very least defend it one time.

 

Sure Sylvia is TERRIBLE' date=' but he defended it a couple times atleast even though the division sucked

 

From recent memory Griffen, Evans, Cough Cough Machida >:D, and who else oh yeah Page' defended it once.

 

Matt Serra won that one time against GSP because he clearly poisoned him before the fight. Then he lost it in the rematch. Carlos Newton and Dave Menne haha yeah them too, it was crazy back in the day when Menne was owned by Baroni after he already lost his title...[/quote']

 

Yeah thing about Griffin, Evans, Machida, Page is their in the stacked division called LHW. lol NO ONE holds titles there. it's insane. The rest i 100% agree with@

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Yes i do not like this fighter but im choosing him because i do believe he was one of the worst.

 

Tito Ortiz.

 

Defends against:

 

Yuki Kondo = 29-9-3, Defeated Andre Dantas in his Debut next fight gets a Shot at Tito.

 

Evan Tanner = 23 - 3, Defeated 3 Opponents to Face Tito but his first 2 wins came against no namers.

 

Elvis Sinosic = 4-4-1, Defeated Jeremy Horn to get a Shot at Tito, he is now 8-11-2.

 

Vladimir Matyushenko = Titos toughest Opponent his First REAL Defense if you wanna state it that way, Vlad Defeated Yuki Kondo by Decision in his Debut to get a Shot at Tito.

 

Ken Shamrock = 25-8-2, LOL His Name is enough.

 

IMO These above names should of never got a Title Shot, my reasoning for choosing Ortiz is he DID not fight the Top Guys in the LHW Division while he was Champion, fighters such as Chuck Liddell were fighting the BEST in the LHW Division the Best in the World, Tito did not fight Top Competetors while he was Champion, and when he had no other choice then to face his 6th Challenger he loses it to Randy Couture who was a top Contender.

 

So imo i think it was Tito.

 

He gained his Popularity from defeating No Bodies.

 

Note: The Records next to the Fighters are from AFTER they lost to Tito, there Records have ofcourse changed since their loss, and for the worse.

 

I ALSO Agree with the people saying Tim Sylvia lol

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Tim Sylvia. He got a defense' date=' but look at who they were against and the caliber of MMA heavyweights back then.[/quote']

 

you can't really look at it that way or else cats like royce gracie today would get killed today but they were still great back then.

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Ya'll really have to think about what it means to be a good champ before you call out whose the worst champ. The Champ must represent the best of your division.

A good champ doesn't have to reign over his division(ala BJ, GSP, Anderson), he doesn't have to completely decimate each of his challengers, and he doesn't even have to have more than one defense.

 

Yes, doing the above makes you a great champ, but not doing it doesn't make you a bad champ. But to be a good champ, all you have to do is prove a massive force for your opponent. Look at Rampage vs Griffin. Despite who you had winning this fight, all of us can agree that this was an extremely close fight. Rampage was Griffin's biggest challenge, but Griffin came in with a great gameplan and won a close decision. Does this make Rampage a bad champ?

 

Everyone who says Griffin is a bad champ, rewatch the Evans fight. Griffin was winning the fight, not letting Evans get anything off, up until Evans finally closed the distance, and ended the fight.

 

Now, who could be said is a bad champ? Let's go with Serra(though I really like Serra), who was destroyed in his first title defense.

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Same theory as the "Best to Never Hold a Title Thread"..

 

Except be real' date=' dont go and say something like Anderson Silva cuz u dont like him, ideally it should be someone who just won the belt and never defended it. Otherwise you wouldnt make sense.[/quote']

 

That is really good question. With a little homework I am going to have to go with Murilo Bustamante. I thought it would be Dave Menne but his has some quality wins. Murilo went to decision twice against Henderson but he gets my vote anyway.

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Ya'll really have to think about what it means to be a good champ before you call out whose the worst champ. The Champ must represent the best of your division.

A good champ doesn't have to reign over his division(ala BJ' date=' GSP, Anderson), he doesn't have to completely decimate each of his challengers, and he doesn't even have to have more than one defense.

 

Yes, doing the above makes you a great champ, but not doing it doesn't make you a bad champ. But to be a good champ, all you have to do is prove a massive force for your opponent. Look at Rampage vs Griffin. Despite who you had winning this fight, all of us can agree that this was an extremely close fight. Rampage was Griffin's biggest challenge, but Griffin came in with a great gameplan and won a close decision. Does this make Rampage a bad champ?

 

Everyone who says Griffin is a bad champ, rewatch the Evans fight. Griffin was winning the fight, not letting Evans get anything off, up until Evans finally closed the distance, and ended the fight.

 

Now, who could be said is a bad champ? Let's go with Serra(though I really like Serra), who was destroyed in his first title defense.[/quote']

Then rashad was a bad champ, his loss to machida was 1000x more embarrassing than serra's to GSP

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i like frankie' date=' but really, he shouldnt have the title. and i want to say lesnar, but i would get to many replies from his fan group. tim sylvia is up there to. matt serra.[/quote']

 

lesnars defended his title twice, even tho his 2nd time was abit idk a comeback but still a win. he dominated frank mir the 2nd time, whether you wana call it pure strength or jiu jitsu defence+wrestling

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Same theory as the "Best to Never Hold a Title Thread"..

 

Except be real' date=' dont go and say something like Anderson Silva cuz u dont like him, ideally it should be someone who just won the belt and never defended it. Otherwise you wouldnt make sense.[/quote']

 

imo, tim sylvia

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