Reaper413 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 To Me, in my opinion, The WW Div is pretty bad. They have few good stand up fighters. Then the whole entire half of the division is slam masters. Hense GSP, Jon Fitch, Josh K. They don't put on good fights. they go to decision and by just laying on their opponent. I don't see any of these fighters to brutal GAP'ing. Then when the good stand up fighters fight a slam master. its a horrible fight and its pretty lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otan Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 What you are saying is you don't like Wrestlers . Fine, but that's your personal preference. I think in turns of skill, experience and any other measure the WW division is better than all other division except LW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentson Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Its the most boring division for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFC_Achilles Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Dude the ww belt would get thrown around a ton too, that division is stacked. Its just that in great divisions theres always gonna be that one guy who is dominant as hell, thats GSP in this case. A few other examples are Chuck in his prime, Anderson Silva, Bj Penn, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper413 Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 I don't mind wrestler's I just hate when someone takes it to the ground and does little of anything but, lay on them. I know its MMA but, your fighting finish the fight. Show us that you have power in your hands and be able to finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2WW Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 all the divs are badass,imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmorrow10 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 imo i love the welterweight division i mean i hate fitch and koscheck but i love some of the guys matt brown vs chris lytle is a recent fight that i loved i love every division though and if u say GSP is a boring fighter i hate you cuz he is a great fighter and an exciting one too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefco1990 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Agreed. The top 3-4 fighters are snores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 ive said it before, if you dont like wrestling and bjj, go watch boxing. not everyone thinks there boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balistic12 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 I'll agree that it's a boring division, but it's fighters are some of the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aethlefirth Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 To Me' date=' in my opinion, The WW Div is pretty bad. They have few good stand up fighters. Then the whole entire half of the division is slam masters. Hense GSP, Jon Fitch, Josh K. They don't put on good fights. they go to decision and by just laying on their opponent. I don't see any of these fighters to brutal GAP'ing. Then when the good stand up fighters fight a slam master. its a horrible fight and its pretty lame.[/quote'] [/img] yeah nothing but lay and prayers in this division! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aethlefirth Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 [/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentson Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Just wait until Shields joins the ww division, the ufc will house the finest ww lay and prayers in the world!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor_Obviously Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 GSP Fitch Koscheck Alves Hardy MacDonald Condit Hathaway Thiago Hazelett Hendricks Almeida Hughes Davis Diaz Howard Sadollah Kampmann Lytle Swick Saunders And soon...Shields. And that's just a few. Where is it bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aethlefirth Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 [/img] slammin nothing but! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2WW Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 if gsp never got beat up by serra then everyone would be his fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper413 Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 lol, aethlefirth you are a bully. GSP vs Baby Jay was just stupid. BJ is a better LW then WW. When Penn left the UFC. GSP arosen and started giving people the ****. When he came bakc he was a LW pro. Now though GSP smells. he just spoons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilflip Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 I don't mind wrestler's I just hate when someone takes it to the ground and does little of anything but' date=' lay on them. I know its MMA but, your fighting finish the fight. Show us that you have power in your hands and be able to finish[/quote'] This^ I wish there was a rule or something about how much decisions you could get in a certain amount of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMA_IS_LIFE Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 ive said it before' date=' if you dont like wrestling and bjj, go watch boxing. not everyone thinks there boring.[/quote'] this man is a genius. Bjj and wrestling are two of the best aspects of mma. Maybe its just me because i wrestle in school and was brought into mma through bjj but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilflip Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 ive said it before' date=' if you dont like wrestling and bjj, go watch boxing. not everyone thinks there boring.[/quote'] Hey idiot, We like wrestling and BJJ. We don't like it when the idiots use it like a *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFC_Achilles Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Guys I dont see how you all can be bored watching any of these fights, grappling is exciting to me, granted its not two guys try to take each others heads off but its still exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper413 Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 BJJ is mad Dope. Its intense when you are about to bust a guys arm in half and he some how slips out of ur grip. Subs are as equally awesome win comparred with KO's. Wrestling is cool because you have the ability to man handle your foe. When you don't do anything on the ground, that bugs me. ur wrestling sucks if you don't even have the ability to finish the fight when you use wrestling. It just puts u in a safe postion and you get to win via Decision. Also fighters need better Takedown Deffense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFC_Achilles Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 BJJ is mad Dope. Its intense when you are about to bust a guys arm in half and he some how slips out of ur grip. Subs are as equally awesome win comparred with KO's. Wrestling is cool because you have the ability to man handle your foe. When you don't do anything on the ground' date=' that bugs me. ur wrestling sucks if you don't even have the ability to finish the fight when you use wrestling. It just puts u in a safe postion and you get to win via Decision. Also fighters need better Takedown Deffense[/quote'] True I would like more wrestlers to work GnP like they used to instead of just kinda laying there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcooper Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Its the most boring division for sure. wrestlers make this sport....honestly if you don't believe wrestling is entertaining well then im sorry, but you need to understand this isnt boxing or kickboxing, its mixed martial arts. I don't expect people who have never taken wrestling to understand the athleticism required. Take downs make the sport....if people are sick of watching wrestlers...dont complain to the wrestlers complain to their opponents who cannot get off their backs to improve on their ground game and take down defense.....wrestlers like GSP, Koscheck are well rounded. and have knock outs in their career BUT with the ever improving competition these men wish to uphold their records so they fall into their basic skills in which are wrestling. Fitch another example great wrestler...regarding no he cant finish a fight very well but hes still respected in the division. FOR his wrestling. Love the sport for the sport and not only the stand up aspect of it..... come on people. the WW division is one of if not the most talented division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus77 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 ive said it before' date=' if you dont like wrestling and bjj, go watch boxing. not everyone thinks there boring.[/quote'] Ugh.. *shakes head*. Wrestling and BJJ are two exciting martial arts.. but it just so happens that theres getting to be a lot of fighters out there who use these abitlitys to get easy wins. An example of this Mousasi/King Mo. Mo layed on him for 5 rounds, got out struck by a guy who was on the bottom, and pulled out the UD just from take downs and LnP. Wrestling is turning a sport based on "fights" into a sport based on "point matches". ie, who ever scores the most points wins. If you wrestling and BJJ matches decided by points then go watch wrestling and BJJ tournaments... and go take the WW with you. Those of us who spend 50 bucks to actually watch FIGHTS will continue to watch the more exciting version MMA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus77 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 wrestlers make this sport....honestly if you don't believe wrestling is entertaining well then im sorry' date=' but you need to understand this isnt boxing or kickboxing, its mixed martial arts.[/b'] I don't expect people who have never taken wrestling to understand the athleticism required. Take downs make the sport....if people are sick of watching wrestlers...dont complain to the wrestlers complain to their opponents who cannot get off their backs to improve on their ground game and take down defense.....wrestlers like GSP, Koscheck are well rounded. and have knock outs in their career BUT with the ever improving competition these men wish to uphold their records so they fall into their basic skills in which are wrestling. Fitch another example great wrestler...regarding no he cant finish a fight very well but hes still respected in the division. FOR his wrestling. Love the sport for the sport and not only the stand up aspect of it..... come on people. the WW division is one of if not the most talented division. 1. As you said.. this is MMA. This isn't a wrestling match or BJJ tourny. People pay to see fights, not boring point matches. Go get a new line to defend boring wrestlers with.. 2. "These men wish to uphold their records".. doesn't that kind of mean fighting safe? Safe = boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentson Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 1. As you said.. this is MMA. This isn't a wrestling match or BJJ tourny. People pay to see fights' date=' not boring point matches. Go get a new line to defend boring wrestlers with.. 2. "These men wish to uphold their records".. doesn't that kind of mean fighting safe? Safe = boring.[/quote'] That and good wrestlers finish their fights by mixing in some other martial arts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper413 Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Atticus77, ur my hero bud. thx = ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobilator Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Its the most boring division for sure. I always think u was a fan who understand what happen on the ground and appreciate it . U find boring ground game ? That funny u have a BJJ champion in ur favorite . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobilator Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 1. As you said.. this is MMA. This isn't a wrestling match or BJJ tourny. People pay to see fights' date=' not boring point matches. Go get a new line to defend boring wrestlers with.. 2. "These men wish to uphold their records".. doesn't that kind of mean fighting safe? Safe = boring.[/quote'] The hater coming back from is hole ! If u dont like westling and BJJ then u watching the wrong sport . Maybe for people who dont like technical fight is boring , but for people like me who already do fighting competition i realy appreciate the technical fight . U know u dont have to see blood and bone broken to have a good event . U said it by urself is MMA , if u can dominate ur oponant with BJJ or Westling or Stand up u DO IT . U got to be realy stupid if u think BJJ and Westling dont have place in MMA . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderProdigy Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Koscheck doesn't finish fights ? TKO Dustin Hazelett Sub Anthony Johnson KO Yoshiyuki Yoshida those were all great and exciting fights btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobilator Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Koscheck doesn't finish fights ?TKO Dustin Hazelett Sub Anthony Johnson KO Yoshiyuki Yoshida those were all great and exciting fights btw. So u like the acting ***** who get caught 2 time faking injury ? We just dont like the same kind of people . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper413 Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 To bad BJ has current day good stand up. Did U see Deigo Sanchez's face after the fight with Penn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderProdigy Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 So u like the acting ***** who get caught 2 time faking injury ? We just dont like the same kind of people . koscheck is one of the most exciting fighters in the division. Sorry i don't enjoy 25 minutes of man spooning like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper413 Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Lol Josh Koscheck. He has finished fights but, he is a lil *******. He has like gay butt sex with Dana White. He crys about the lamest $h1T. He is the worst fighter in the UFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1blowKO Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 To bad BJ has current day good stand up. Did U see Deigo Sanchez's face after the fight with Penn Too bad he gets lazy after winning a few fights in a row Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper413 Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 If you are referring to his belt lose. That wasn't even Baby Jay in that fight. At least his fights are exciting, unlike GSP Lay and Pray master! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus77 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 The hater coming back from is hole ! If u dont like westling and BJJ then u watching the wrong sport . Maybe for people who dont like technical fight is boring ' date=' but for people like me who already do fighting competition i realy appreciate the technical fight . U know u dont have to see blood and bone broken to have a good event . U said it by urself is MMA , if u can dominate ur oponant with BJJ or Westling or Stand up u DO IT . U got to be realy stupid if u think BJJ and Westling dont have place in MMA .[/quote'] Whats up bob I never said I like blood or broken bones, I never said I didn't appreciate the ground game, I never said that wrestling and BJJ dont belong in MMA.. did you take the time to read my post? Theres wrestlers out there, espeically in the WW division, who seem to approach MMA as a "match" rather then a "fight". These guys, whom I wont name to avoid a hate fest, are boring fighters who seem to be more then happy to win on points rather then push for a finish. If you like techinical grappling matches that are decided on points then go watch a wrestling tournament or a BJJ tournament. MMA is about fights, not about points. BTW you all realize that the original UFC's didnt have time limits, rounds, and judges for a reason right?.. The origin of MMA is based around marital artists finishing fights to prove who's the better fighter and which art is the most effective.. not who can look the best at the end and score more points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alleng Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Despite their fighting styles, they are still elite fighters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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