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Anderson Silva to GSP, Shogun: 'Come Fight Me in My Division'

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Considered by many the reigning pound-for-pound king in mixed martial arts, UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva has been imagined in many fascinating scenarios. Some have envisioned him fighting welterweight champ Georges St. Pierre at a catch weight (Silva himself once suggested the possibility of fighting at welterweight). A permament move up one division to light-heavyweight has also been mentioned, and UFC President Dana White has voiced a belief that he's big enough and talented enough to fight some UFC heavyweights.

 

Well, put all those dream bookings on hold. The mercurial star now says that he's perfectly content ruling over the 185-pound weight class, and that he plans to stay there for the remainder of his career.

 

 

 

Eschewing possible superfights with the likes of St. Pierre and Mauricio "Shogun" Rua, Silva says they'll have to meet him on his own turf to face him.

 

"If you want to beat me up, make weight and come fight me in my category, my division," Silva said through his manager and interpreter Ed Soares.

 

Silva is in the midst of a historic run in the sport. At 26-4 overall, he is the holder of 11 straight victories in the octagon, a UFC record. He next defends the championship against No. 1 contender Chael Sonnen at UFC 117 on August 7.

 

sorry if this has all ready being posted did look but nothing came up

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Hampus

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I think he?s right except i think that he should move up if he wants to fight Shogun because that?s how it works..

 

BJ had to move in order to take the belt, and fight against GSP twice.

So if GSP wants to fight, then put on some weight on your midget body and let?s see what you can do against a very very dangerous striker.

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It seems the only real criticism of Silva is that he's not keen to move up a weight class (again) to fight the LHW champ. So you are, of course, admitting noone in the division can touch him. I have to agree with you here. He's not obligated to do anything besides defend his title, but if it were to happen Silva v Shogun would have to be the biggest draw we've ever seen... I'm not desperate to see this one tho, I like both these fighters, but it would be awesome to settle the debate... Don't see it happening, it doesn't make business sense at this point and we all know Dana is all about the business...

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silva has some cheek considering he weighs around 220 lbs. if he fought his whole career in the ufc as a lhw, he wouldnt have been anywhere near as successful. one of the main things that he has in his favour at mw is reach and size advantage, which plays to his style really well

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silva has some cheek considering he weighs around 220 lbs. if he fought his whole career in the ufc as a lhw' date=' he wouldnt have been anywhere near as successful. one of the main things that he has in his favour at mw is reach and size advantage, which plays to his style really well[/quote']

 

Yea he really used that against the sandman and Griffin.

 

It?s his superior striking, why can?t people recognize it.

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few things wrong Fedor is far from the best hasnt been the best ever in my eyes he hasnt fought anyone in a long long while and he just got beat by someone that JDS k.o in one round

 

Silva shouldnt cut to fight GSP he is to big it would effect him to much however GSP walks around at 200lbs so he should fight Silva at middleweight

 

Shogun walks round at 220 lbs so he shouldnt cut Silva should fight at LHW then there are no excuses because he has fought there before

 

Verdict

Silva Defeats GSP tko/ko

Shogun Silva first could go the distance if not I say shogun tko or Silva by submission

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I do find it amusing that a lot of people seem to believe that Silva would defeat most light heavyweights. He defeated Irvin, but that's no big feat. He defeated a former champion in Griffin, and in devestating form, but as much as I love Forrest he isn't a Top 5 fighter at 205lb.

 

I don't like Rashad in the slightest, but I think he would give Silva a lot of problems, especially with his wrestling.

 

But back to the main topic, in regards to moving up or down in weight - St-Pierre (should he decide to fight Silva) should move up to fight Anderson; it's how it should be, but as a big GSP fan I'm not keep on the idea as we don't know how he would perform at a higher weight class.

 

If Silva wants to call out Shogun, then move up to 205lb again. Rua isn't a huge light heavyweight, but he's a 205lber none the less. He's the defending light heavyweight champion, he doesn't have to go anywhere - Silva has to move up to fight him.

 

It's my view that Shogun vs. Silva is a lot more likely than GSP vs. Silva. But as is the case when any fighter wants to take on a new weight class above, they should have to move up. The only fighter with the true guts to move up a weight class with no concern whatsoever, regardless of whether he got his **** handed to him in brutal fashion, was BJ. That guy, love him or hate him, has a ton of fight in him and went all the way up to heavyweight to fight Machida years back, and it was a close decision.

 

Machida was considered unbeatable. Shogun knocked him out cold in 4 minutes.

Silva vs. Shogun - not a simple case of 'oh Silva would beat his ****'; I see Anderson being the one lying on his back after a thorough beating.

 

St-Pierre vs. Silva: I don't like the idea of it, though it would be amazing to watch. St-Pierre is intelligent in his gameplans, and could well pummel Silva on the ground. Silva could also knock him out standing up. Again, could go either way - but don't go calling out other champions if you aren't willing to go to their weight class.

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I do find it amusing that a lot of people seem to believe that Silva would defeat most light heavyweights. He defeated Irvin' date=' but that's no big feat. He defeated a former champion in Griffin, and in devestating form, but as much as I love Forrest he isn't a Top 5 fighter at 205lb.

 

I don't like Rashad in the slightest, but I think he would give Silva a lot of problems, especially with his wrestling.

 

But back to the main topic, in regards to moving up or down in weight - St-Pierre (should he decide to fight Silva) should move up to fight Anderson; it's how it should be, but as a big GSP fan I'm not keep on the idea as we don't know how he would perform at a higher weight class.

 

If Silva wants to call out Shogun, then move up to 205lb again. Rua isn't a huge light heavyweight, but he's a 205lber none the less. He's the defending light heavyweight champion, he doesn't have to go anywhere - Silva has to move up to fight him.

 

It's my view that Shogun vs. Silva is a lot more likely than GSP vs. Silva. But as is the case when any fighter wants to take on a new weight class above, they should have to move up. The only fighter with the true guts to move up a weight class with no concern whatsoever, regardless of whether he got his **** handed to him in brutal fashion, was BJ. That guy, love him or hate him, has a ton of fight in him and went all the way up to heavyweight to fight Machida years back, and it was a close decision.

 

Machida was considered unbeatable. Shogun knocked him out cold in 4 minutes.

Silva vs. Shogun - not a simple case of 'oh Silva would beat his ****'; I see Anderson being the one lying on his back after a thorough beating.

 

St-Pierre vs. Silva: I don't like the idea of it, though it would be amazing to watch. St-Pierre is intelligent in his gameplans, and could well pummel Silva on the ground. Silva could also knock him out standing up. Again, could go either way - but don't go calling out other champions if you aren't willing to go to their weight class.[/quote']

 

At the time when silva and forrest faught he was top 5, he had only just lost the title

 

i agree with most of this post apart from you thinking shogun would KO silva, he could win but i don't think he would KO him and i think GSP would be scard to use alot of ground and pound and going for more control than damage. It would also be hard for him because he hasn't ever been the smaller fighter in a fight so it would cause him trouble

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anderson silva =

 

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UFCGOD1 = ^ Now on to the topic. I can see where Silva is coming from, and just about every Fedor fan should agree with Anderson's statement. As I've heard many of them say Fedor doesn't have to go to the UFC to prove he's the best the others have to come to him. That being said I will be highly disappointed if Silva doesn't fight @ LHW again.

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few things wrong Fedor is far from the best hasnt been the best ever in my eyes he hasnt fought anyone in a long long while and he just got beat by someone that JDS k.o in one round

 

Silva shouldnt cut to fight GSP he is to big it would effect him to much however GSP walks around at 200lbs so he should fight Silva at middleweight

 

Shogun walks round at 220 lbs so he shouldnt cut Silva should fight at LHW then there are no excuses because he has fought there before

 

Verdict

Silva Defeats GSP tko/ko

Shogun Silva first could go the distance if not I say shogun tko or Silva by submission

 

where is the source on Shogun's walk-around weight? because Shogun looks smaller than Machida and Rashad who both have said they walk around at less than that...

 

i don't see why Silva no longer wants to take part in LHW fights, Shogun said he would fight him...and Silva has competed at LHW recently and successfully...

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BJ is the only one man enough to go to somebody elses weightclass to fight them =P

 

WTF A. Silva moved up twice and dominated both LHW. But yeah Im a huge Silva fan and am kinda disappointed that he wouldnt move after all the talk that he was. I mean this dude could be the first fighter in UFC history to hold three belts:)... Easily beating Rua and GSP.

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WTF A. Silva moved up twice and dominated both LHW. But yeah Im a huge Silva fan and am kinda disappointed that he wouldnt move after all the talk that he was. I mean this dude could be the first fighter in UFC history to hold three belts:)... Easily beating Rua and GSP.

 

Keep dreaming

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It would also be hard for him (GSP) because he hasn't ever been the smaller fighter in a fight so it would cause him trouble

 

thiago alves?

dan hardy?

 

both just as large if not larger than GSP.

 

that was even the selling point for the thiago alves fight. "GSP has never fought someone so huge...blahblahblah"

they sold that PPV based on telling the public that alves was larger than GSP. the entire fight was rogan talking about how alves makes GSP look small.

 

 

GSP walks around at 200lbs so he should fight Silva at middleweight

 

Shogun walks round at 220 lbs so he shouldnt cut Silva should fight at LHW

 

honestly' date=' I think you just made these numbers up out of convenience to back up your point.

 

there is no way that GSP cuts 30lbs to fight.

 

GSP realistically cuts 20lbs tops. (thats about 11% of total body weight)

 

Its official

 

Silva is ducking Shogun

 

Theres no more denying it

 

 

sigh.

fanboy.

 

 

He's (A Silva) not obligated to do anything besides defend his title' date=' [/quote']

 

NOW we have a reasonable post.

 

 

 

and for everyone in this thread.

WTF do you want silva to do. really think about it.

he has an upcomming fight so he CANT be planning future fights untill this fight with chonen is done.

he is the ONLY fighter (besides GSP/BJ) who has mentioned a super fight that the fans would LOVE. dana doesnt give him the fight ( dana said in a video that silva doesnt deserve GSP) and the fans still hate silva and call him a coward.

 

silva is the unfortunate victim of hatred due to his uncanny success.

 

he seems invincible so people want nothing more than to see him fall.

 

well, I for one am more entertained by 5 rounds of silva throwing jabs and playing air guitar then I am of 3 rounds of lay and pray, or clinching against the cage. or 5 rounds of f*cking leg kicks (Im looking at you shogun)

 

silva is the greatest MMA fighter alive today.

deal with it.

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its real simple he has no competition at 185 so of course he would be content stayin there. i hope chael beats the brakes off this guy so hopefully we wont have to hear about for a while except from you guys that are in love with him. personally i cant stand the guy and the only people he stepped up to face was james irvin and that was what a 20 second fight if even. all im sayin is if you are the "best pound-for-pound fighter" how come hes scared to change weightclasses

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I really hate that so many people think GSP would loose to Silva. If anything' date=' it's better for GSP to stay at WW. It's an absolutely STACKED divison, while MW is shallow and weak.[/quote']

 

GSP would lose. Silva could be a solid LHW if he wanted he has much much better striking then GSP and silva's ground game is very good and has an underrated sprawl

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honestly, I think you just made these numbers up out of convenience to back up your point.

 

there is no way that GSP cuts 30lbs to fight.

 

GSP realistically cuts 20lbs tops. (thats about 11% of total body weight)

 

 

I agree. GSP is at 193 now.

 

 

 

 

and for everyone in this thread.

WTF do you want silva to do. really think about it.

he has an upcomming fight so he CANT be planning future fights untill this fight with chonen is done.

 

 

True

 

 

 

silva is the unfortunate victim of hatred due to his uncanny success.

 

 

He's hated cause he acts like a f*cking monkey in the ring and disgraces our beloved sport.

 

 

he seems invincible so people want nothing more than to see him fall.

 

 

I wanna see him out cold cause of his stupid antics

 

 

well, I for one am more entertained by 5 rounds of silva throwing jabs and playing air guitar then I am of 3 rounds of lay and pray, or clinching against the cage. or 5 rounds of f*cking leg kicks (Im looking at you shogun)

 

 

This shows how stupid you are.

Mauricio "Shogun" Rua

Record - 19-4

Wins via KO - 16

Wins via SUB - 1

Wins via Decision - 2

 

1 decision against Antonio Rogerio Nogueira in a very entertaining fight.

 

silva is the greatest MMA fighter alive today.

deal with it.

 

Haha no.

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I'm not too sure if someone has mentioned this' date=' but if GSP or Shogun decide to fight Silva on his own turf of 185, it'll be Silva's belt on the line, which in my opinion shows a lot more guts than Silva chasing GSP for his WW belt or chasing Shogun for his LHW belt...[/quote']

 

I understand why he says GSP fight me in my division. If he drops to 170 he will be completly drained and not have that much energy. But he is heavy enough to fight Shogun at LHW instead of Shogun dropping to 185.

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I'm not too sure if someone has mentioned this' date=' but if GSP or Shogun decide to fight Silva on his own turf of 185, it'll be Silva's belt on the line, which in my opinion shows a lot more guts than Silva chasing GSP for his WW belt or chasing Shogun for his LHW belt...[/quote']

 

You make a very good point. That's a good way to look at it but the fact is, GSP's too small for 185 and Shogun is too big for 185. And Silva said he'd go to their weight classes. Now it seems like ducking. I understand him not dropping to 170 for GSP cause that's a big cut and it'd be draining but don't call out Shogun and tell him to drop. Imagine the reaction people would have if GSP called out Silva but said you have to come 170 though.

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ok if this guy is supposedly the "best pound-for-pound fighter" then why wont he change weightclasses? the only time he stepped up he fought james irvin and that was maybe a 30 second fight. all im saying is if you have this many people tricked in to believing this and then you're like " i'm goin to stay in this division where i have absolutely no competition and run over all these scrubs" give me a break best pound-for-pound hes scared. now dont get me wrong the guy is really good but he's way too full of himself and believes all the BS his fans are feeding him

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I agree with this.

 

Why should the best fighter in the sport have to chase anyone?

 

 

The best want to fight the best. Silva has pretty much said he is content with being in his weak division (cleaned out IMO) and finishing his career there. This all after he said he would fight MIR at HW, take GSP's belt @ WW and fight once in a while @ LHW. I think he is being a little wishy washy. People are of course going to get a little upset after all this talk and then he ups and changes his mind. It just makes himself look not as hungry as everyone thought he was.

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The best want to fight the best. Silva has pretty much said he is content with being in his weak division (cleaned out IMO) and finishing his career there. This all after he said he would fight MIR at HW' date=' take GSP's belt @ WW and fight once in a while @ LHW. I think he is being a little wishy washy. People are of course going to get a little upset after all this talk and then he ups and changes his mind. It just makes himself look not as hungry as everyone thought he was.[/quote']

 

I'm starting to think Anderson Silva is bi-polar or something.

 

His manager constantly hacks on the UFC for setting up Middle Weight challengers that aren't "worthy" in their opinions and has stated repeatedly they want "Super Fights" for Silva.

 

 

New's flash - there are no super fights to be had at MW outside GSP moving up to 185lb.

 

Out side of that if Silva wants a Super Fight he is going to have to go to 205 or higher or fight at catch weights.

 

I personally prefer a catch weight for champ vs champ fights. No titles on the line just pride.

 

Silva vs Shogun at 195 would be a reasonable cut for Shogun or any other 205lber.

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it is pretty easy to figure out silva would die cutting to 170 and he doesn't want to be the lhw champ because of Machida...... Machida didn't seem that he wanted anderson to fight shogun in a video i saw on here... he said he didn't have much to say about that fight..

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