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So..who would win now? Brock and Fedor

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cptawesome

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Wasn't Carwin gassed and tired from wrecking Brock the whole first round when Lestard tapped him? Wasn't Fedor early in the fight' date=' dry, dropped his opponent and caught in a submission from a high level BJJ black belt in Fabricio Werdum.[/quote']

 

why are you trying to deny there victories. carwin never finished brock because he wasnt strong enough, brock was better at defending himself. werdum saw a hole in fedors game and took advantage of it. i love lesnar haters no logic

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Wasn't Carwin gassed and tired from wrecking Brock the whole first round when Lestard tapped him? Wasn't Fedor early in the fight' date=' dry, dropped his opponent and caught in a submission from a high level BJJ black belt in Fabricio Werdum.[/quote']

 

Carwin got tired of punching Lesnar's head but it has no effect on Lesnar.

Fedor also hit Werdum but it doesn't have any effect on Werdum, as you can see Werdum submitted Fedor after those punches, that means Fedor punches has no effect whatsoever.

 

Please no more excuses regarding Fedor commited mistakes or got reckless.

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Carwin got tired of punching Lesnar's head but it has no effect on Lesnar.

Fedor also hit Werdum but it doesn't have any effect on Werdum' date=' as you can see Werdum submitted Fedor after those punches, that means Fedor punches has no effect whatsoever.

 

Please no more excuses regarding Fedor commited mistakes or got reckless.[/quote']

 

alot of people like to think that just because you were doing well at somepoint in a fight but still got KO'd or sub'd that you deserve the victory anyways. im sorry who tapped out who quit and gave up? thats right shane carwin he gave up. who gave up to werdum asking him to stop because he couldnt go on? oh the almighty fedor. i like fedor i do but he got beat fair and sqaure

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Kranga

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why are you trying to deny there victories. carwin never finished brock because he wasnt strong enough' date=' brock was better at defending himself. werdum saw a hole in fedors game and took advantage of it. i love lesnar haters no logic[/quote']

 

Yes youngling you have very sound logic yourself. :P Yeah right

 

FEDOR FTW

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MMAFANN4LIFE

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its funny how people still have excuses when brock obviously is the best hw at this moment, fedor was people need to stop living in the past and think he is the best now, hes really not even top 5, he is not in the ufc so hes fighting basically ufc rejects etc....brock,cain,jds,carwin,frank mir are all better than fedor at this point.

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its funny how people still have excuses when brock obviously is the best hw at this moment' date=' fedor was people need to stop living in the past and think he is the best now, hes really not even top 5, he is not in the ufc so hes fighting basically ufc rejects etc....brock,cain,jds,carwin,frank mir are all better than fedor at this point.[/quote']

 

Yeah....:confused:

And the UFC is the only MMA org that matters, If you are not in the UFC you are not considered a top fighter. **shakes head**

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its funny how people still have excuses when brock obviously is the best hw at this moment' date=' fedor was people need to stop living in the past and think he is the best now, hes really not even top 5, he is not in the ufc so hes fighting basically ufc rejects etc....brock,cain,jds,carwin,frank mir are all better than fedor at this point.[/quote']

 

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fedor cant beat any hw in the ufc

 

Maybe some.

 

I'd say Fedor' date='

 

Brock doesn't have the stand up and I think Fedor could dodge the take downs.

 

But really it is all in the take downs, if they work for Brock its his, if not Fedor.[/quote']

 

You mean like Shane Carwin?

 

Wasn't Carwin gassed and tired from wrecking Brock the whole first round when Lestard tapped him? Wasn't Fedor early in the fight' date=' dry, dropped his opponent and caught in a submission from a high level BJJ black belt in Fabricio Werdum.[/quote']

 

What a great example of talking out of your ****. Do you Fedor fanboys just drown yourselves with delusion to the fact that Brock WON his CHAMPIONSHIP match and p'ussy Fedor LOST his #1 CONTENDER match?

 

If Shane's hands couldn't put Brock away how in the hell can Fedor? Shane practically blew his hands out trying to smash Brock but couldn't. Now you Fedor fanboys think Fedor could?

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Maybe some.

 

 

 

You mean like Shane Carwin?

 

 

 

What a great example of talking out of your ****. Do you Fedor fanboys just drown yourselves with delusion to the fact that Brock WON his CHAMPIONSHIP match and p'ussy Fedor LOST his #1 CONTENDER match?

 

If Shane's hands couldn't put Brock away how in the hell can Fedor? Shane practically blew his hands out trying to smash Brock but couldn't. Now you Fedor fanboys think Fedor could?

 

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CoryXCrucial

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Brock by 1st rd RNC. Fedor has no submission defense.

 

that is seriously the most retarded thing ever stated.... EVER! he tapped out once, to an amazing bjj blackbelt. brock tapped to a heel hook, so he has zero sub defense also. and brocks standup is laughable to say the least, he has size and great wrestling... that is all, mir exposed his sub defense, carwin and couture exposed his striking defense.... he isnt the greatest fighter in the world, let alone the greatest heavweight. he is the 5-1 heavyweight around, ill give him that. fedor made an amazing career out of fighting larger opponents, brock is the most overrated hw champ next to tim sylvia

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that is seriously the most retarded thing ever stated.... EVER! he tapped out once' date=' to an amazing bjj blackbelt. brock tapped to a heel hook, so he has zero sub defense also. and brocks standup is laughable to say the least, he has size and great wrestling... that is all, mir exposed his sub defense, carwin and couture exposed his striking defense.... he isnt the greatest fighter in the world, let alone the greatest heavweight. he is the 5-1 heavyweight around, ill give him that. fedor made an amazing career out of fighting larger opponents, brock is the most overrated hw champ next to tim sylvia[/quote']

 

Thank god, at last someone with some commonsense. Well said Cory

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Fedor is no different because of that loss. He's still Fedor...I would go with Lesnar on this one. He's simply bigger, faster and stronger. Much more of a pure athelete. And it is apparent he can take some hits need be. Fedor has had to bash his way to a lot of victories, but has never been smashed up by anyone quite like Lesnar. I don't think he'd be able to recover after being put on his back by Brock....But you know what? They'd both win just from the amount of money they would both be paid to fight!

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I believe, if the fight happened today, Fedor would win it. Yes Fedor lost one fight - but losing one fight doesn't make you a bad fighter. It maybe made him lose his "unbeatable" appeal, but if you're a fanboy of records, there is no use to debating anything cause everyone at the top level has a loss, everyone...

 

Fedor's mistake was he got over anxious, it was something I've never seen before, he lost his cool and he went for a kill. I don't know why, maybe it was to prove that Overeem isn't the only one who can come in and dominate, maybe he was over confident, maybe he just didn't give Werdum's BJJ the respect it deserved, but regardless he'd made his mistake and paid for it. But it was a rare laps in character.

 

The only way I could possibly see Brock winning is by TKO of GnP. I'd give Brock next to no chance of getting the Sub, and Fedor's chin has been proven to be epic (though age catches up with even the best of them). I simply can't see this fight going the distance, so it's safe to assume decisions are out - neither man would allow for one. Meanwhile, I could see Fedor grabbing a nice sub on Lesnar. People often overlook just how good of a submission expert Fedor is because his stand up is so exciting. But there are really only a handful of examples of someone escaping once he can grab a limb.

 

I by no means am discrediting Brock, and I think the time will come very soon when my answer will change. Lesnar has grown leaps and bounds, and every fight he's coming a little more sharp and disciplined. Plus let's not discredit just how freakishly athletic and big Brock is. But I see too much potential for a great submission artist with a strong chin being able to weather Brock's ground game and grab a limb...especially with how calm Fedor is and his ability to adjust strategy on the fly.

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that is seriously the most retarded thing ever stated.... EVER! he tapped out once' date=' to an amazing bjj blackbelt. [b']brock tapped to a heel hook[/b], so he has zero sub defense also. and brocks standup is laughable to say the least, he has size and great wrestling... that is all, mir exposed his sub defense, carwin and couture exposed his striking defense.... he isnt the greatest fighter in the world, let alone the greatest heavweight. he is the 5-1 heavyweight around, ill give him that. fedor made an amazing career out of fighting larger opponents, brock is the most overrated hw champ next to tim sylvia

 

actually brock tapped to a kneebar...........noob exposed

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I'm sorry for a semi-Fedor thread in the UFC section' date=' but I'm curious to see the results of this poll.

 

Vote and discuss![/quote']

 

Wow the poll's alot closer than I thought it would be. But I voted for Brock cause I'm pretty sure he can take Fedor down. Then we'd have to watch one of the greats get smashed up pretty badly....almost brings a tear to my eye...

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PRIDEneverDIED

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Fedor still wins this fight with ease becuse he will train for opponents like Brock(yes there are russians as big and strong as brock wake up from fantasy world).....not to mention his loss was a wake up call that everyone needs in MMA. Fedor is a way more complete fighter and will find every weakness Brock has and try to expose it through his camp. I'm not saying Lesnar has no chance of winning but if i were to bet money i'd bet Fedor because of his experience/camp/skill/well roundedness. Brock has beaten overhyped or washed up UFC fighters thats about all....not that impressive(not until he beats 30 people in a row no matter what skill level)

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