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*2 stoppages in his last 10 fights

 

*biggest name win on his record is evander holyfield who was 41 at the time

 

*overall (T)KO %age of 57%

 

*his record is a whos who of cans in the boxing world and he has never beaten a top name fighter who was remotley close to there prime

 

*4 wins our of his last 9 fights

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*2 stoppages in his last 10 fights

 

*biggest name win on his record is evander holyfield who was 41 at the time

 

*overall (T)KO %age of 57%

 

*his record is a whos who of cans in the boxing world and he has never beaten a top name fighter who was remotley close to there prime

 

*4 wins our of his last 9 fights

 

You are a fool to discredit Toneys boxing career

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*2 stoppages in his last 10 fights
Which is not bad for boxing stadards. Get a clue.

 

*biggest name win on his record is evander holyfield who was 41 at the time
He wasn't much off his prime at that age.

Apart from that' date=' Toney is only 7'5". He's a small dude. Evander is 6'2"

 

*overall (T)KO %age of 57%
Could you name many boxers who have a higher %-age of (T)KOs? Not many.

 

*4 wins our of his last 9 fights
Hahaha. 2 losses in his last 9 fights. - Now that looks better, doesn't it?

 

Actually - only 2 losses in his last 23 fights.

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BJBJJ

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looks like this is mma.

 

your deceptive tactics will not save you from the loss of your beloved avatar JUNGLEBIRD!

 

I am on to you.........

 

you will have to start a new account (ie. you cant use this account) after you lose our avatar bet you cretin.

 

like highlander (which I have not personally seen, a little too nerdy for my liking... but I am aware of the references)

 

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!

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your deceptive tactics will not save you from the loss of your beloved avatar JUNGLEBIRD!

 

I am on to you.........

 

you will have to start a new account (ie. you cant use this account) after you lose our avatar bet you cretin.

 

like highlander (which I have not personally seen' date=' a little too nerdy for my liking... but I am aware of the references)

 

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE![/quote']

 

stop accusing me! i'm just a man that wants to speak of a beautiful sport! i say what i mean and you eat what i say then you poop on me like i'm some kind of african animal deep in the jungle trying to survive from his nemesis.... the lion.

 

i am a new member of this forum. there must be a way i can prove i am not... junglebird!

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stop accusing me! i'm just a man that wants to speak of a beautiful sport! i say what i mean and you eat what i say then you poop on me like i'm some kind of african animal deep in the jungle trying to survive from his nemesis.... the lion.

 

i am a new member of this forum. there must be a way i can prove i am not... junglebird!

 

ah HA!

 

I caught you you godless slug!

 

how do you know the name "jungle bird"?

I have never mentioned this name.

has anyone ELSE mentioned this name?

 

NO!

an emphatic NO!

 

for shame junglebird.... for shame............

you are worse than a prostitute who has to buy change rolls to cash in her earnings.

 

your syphilitic nature makes me sick to my stomach. you are no better than a common tape worm feasting on feces.

 

I WILL CONSUME YOUR SOUL!

 

 

yours truely... the AUTHENTIC sir stephen colbert.

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your deceptive tactics will not save you from the loss of your beloved avatar JUNGLEBIRD!

 

I am on to you.........

 

you will have to start a new account (ie. you cant use this account) after you lose our avatar bet you cretin.

 

like highlander (which I have not personally seen' date=' a little too nerdy for my liking... but I am aware of the references)

 

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE![/quote']

 

ah HA!

 

I caught you you godless slug!

 

how do you know the name "jungle bird"?

I have never mentioned this name.

has anyone ELSE mentioned this name?

 

NO!

an emphatic NO!

 

for shame junglebird.... for shame............

you are worse than a prostitute who has to buy change rolls to cash in her earnings.

 

your syphilitic nature makes me sick to my stomach. you are no better than a common tape worm feasting on feces.

 

I WILL CONSUME YOUR SOUL!

 

 

yours truely... the AUTHENTIC sir stephen colbert.

 

there! you said junglebird you funky imbecile!

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BJBJJ

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there! you said junglebird you funky imbecile!

 

you edited my post, just like you stole my identity.

 

I dont have to sit here and defend myself against your heartless attacks on my character.

 

good day sir.

 

sincerely..... the REAL and the ORIGINAL stephen colbert.

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Labyrinthic

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check your original post imbecile!

 

Yes,Dcent is an imbecile, he has a great way with words though,I was thinking of following some English lesson?s with him, but I changed my mind because it would only end up with me ripping the head off of the greatest Keyboard warrior ever lived! His light?s would have gone out and then I would say..Din pay yo lectric bill you 34 year old halfwit!LIGHTS OUT,BLEE DAT!!

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casino16

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you are a fool for believing his own hype....he has beaten no-one

 

ya seriously, up to his 27th fight i havent heard of any of those guys. then he fought roy jones and lost..... then he fought an old evander.

 

i can fight little grade school kids and make a boxing record for myself of 200-0 it wont make me a better fighter lol

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the truth about james toney is he's a world class boxer. the fact that he doesnt have KOs should prove to you more that he's a technical striker, not relying on knockout power to win his fights. in all likelihood, toney will be overwhelmed and smothered with gnp or submission. but randy has to get it there first, and i doubt randy would be conscious if he eats a couple of shots from toney. in vegas i would pick toney in this fight because he's a huge underdog and the chance is good he'll hit him at least once, but if my life was on the line i'd pick couture.

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KaTsA

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what kind of boxing are you watching? boxers Always want to get a KO or TKO just like any fighter in mma would

 

Tell that to Floyd Mayweather Jr :P

 

Oh, and as for the Toney bashing, I'm usually the last person to defend him, but he did TKO The Real Deal, he's only like 4 years younger than him. Oh yeah, and he got a UD against John Ruiz.

 

 

Oh wait, that win got overturned, and is a NC due to the fact Toney was juicing, lol!

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He wasn't much off his prime at that age.

Apart from that' date=' Toney is only 7'5". He's a small dude. Evander is 6'2"

 

Could you name many boxers who have a higher %-age of (T)KOs? Not many.

 

Hahaha. 2 losses in his last 9 fights. - Now that looks better, doesn't it?

 

Actually - only 2 losses in his last 23 fights.[/quote']

 

Toney is 7'5? Try 5'9" :P (i know, just being silly, but how did you get 7'5" I'd understand if he were 5'7")

 

I can name a bunch, here goes :

Joe Calzaghe - 69.57% which would have been much higher if he didn;'t keep busting his hands up.

David Haye - 88% Which wont drop too drastically if it doesn't climb as he'll be retiring in the next few years.

Ricky Hatton - 68.09%

Nigel Benn - 72.92% (Who Toney ducked if you ask me)

Amir Khan - 70.83% Would love to see Amir train up in MMA and cross over, but he's making too much money right now in Boxing, and wants to build a legacy.

Manny Pacquiao - 67.86% The boxer I would most love to see come into MMA, but alas, will never happen.

Mike Tyson - 75.86%

Wladimir Klitschko - 84.21% If he ever agrees to a reasonable purse cut for Haye to fight him he'll improve Haye's %

Lennox Lewis - 72.73%

 

All the above are also far more credible fighters than Toney :)

 

As for Toney's 2 losses in his last 9 fights, he had 2 NC's, one of which as a result of him using banned substances in a Championship fight, which should really have been 3, as he got caught AGAIN after his fight with Danny Batchelder, and only managed a split decision.

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Yes' date='Dcent is an imbecile, he has a great way with words though,I was thinking of following some English lesson?s with him, but I changed my mind because it would only end up with me ripping the head off of the greatest Keyboard warrior ever lived! His light?s would have gone out and then I would say..Din pay yo lectric bill you 34 year old halfwit!LIGHTS OUT,BLEE DAT!![/quote']

 

I would not be able to deal with your arsenal of homoerotic muscle mags and oily brock lesnar action figures.

 

and just because you have a borderline homosexually ****ographic image of a sac of muscles in your avatar does NOT make you tough in real life.

 

but your lack of linguistic prowess is quite apparent regardless of the medium through which you attempt to communicate your very basic thoughts and opinions.

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Toney has only fought 19 times in the past decade, as opposed to 22 fights in 1989 and 1990 combined.. a 2 year span.

 

There's no doubt that Toney has slowed down with age (he will be turning 42 before their bout). He was a wrecking ball when he was in his prime. Yes, he didn't fight the best opponents, but that still means he was a hell of a lot better than most of he boxers out there in his hay day.

 

If he lands a solid combo on Couture, things could get interesting..

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Couture is 18-10.

 

72-6 > 18-10 by a longshot.

 

I don't care who you are' date=' he went 44-0 in Boxing before getting a loss, not all fighters can do that.[/quote']

 

Comparing a boxing record to a MMA record is pointless. In boxing there's only punching to worry about.

 

Also, Randy never ducked anyone, Toney did. Randy never got caught juicing, Toney did.

 

As for Toney's record, it's been said numerous times, but I'll say it again, he's fought a lot of nobodies in the the boxing world. The only top name fighter he ever beat was Evander.

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Toney has only fought 19 times in the past decade' date=' as opposed to 22 fights in 1989 and 1990 combined.. a 2 year span.

 

There's no doubt that Toney has slowed down with age (he will be turning 42 before their bout). He was a wrecking ball when he was in his prime. Yes, he didn't fight the best opponents, but that still means he was a hell of a lot better than most of he boxers out there in his hay day.

 

If he lands a solid combo on Couture, things could get interesting..[/quote']

 

Forget combo if he lands a solid punch Randy is going to sleep. Easier said than done though and Toney will find that out real quick.

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Comparing a boxing record to a MMA record is pointless. In boxing there's only punching to worry about.

 

Also' date=' Randy never ducked anyone, Toney did. Randy never got caught juicing, Toney did.

 

As for Toney's record, it's been said numerous times, but I'll say it again, he's fought a lot of nobodies in the the boxing world. The only top name fighter he ever beat was Evander.[/quote']

 

Well you Couture fans already are discrediting Toney's move to MMA, now your targeting his Boxing career like you know what your talking about. When he fought RJJ, he put everything on the line. Both were considered one of the top P4P best boxers in the world. They both put on the line to meet. He lost. But he still sacrificed his unbeaten record and maybe a better legacy to fight RJJ, because thats what the fans wanted to see.

 

Couture came back and was gifted a title shot for the UFC Heavyweight Belt. Was Toney ever gifted anything? No, he wasn't. He worked for it.

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looks like this is mma.

 

Who the F is copying my avatar this time?!!??!

 

 

 

your deceptive tactics will not save you from the loss of your beloved avatar JUNGLEBIRD!

 

I am on to you.........

 

you will have to start a new account (ie. you cant use this account) after you lose our avatar bet you cretin.

 

like highlander (which I have not personally seen' date=' a little too nerdy for my liking... but I am aware of the references)

 

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE![/quote']

 

haha Dcent its not me.... I wouldnt waste my time with another account :P

 

Whoever it is, he is late to the cool train. Theres only room for 1 (maybe 2) Colbert avatars. But as everyone on the Forum knows Im the original, then rest are riding my sack like crabs looking for a warm place to sleep.

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Couture is 18-10.

 

72-6 > 18-10 by a longshot.

 

I don't care who you are' date=' he went 44-0 in Boxing before getting a loss, not all fighters can do that.[/quote']

 

Randy never fought a can. Randy has fought more real names than James Toney has. In my opinion, Couture has had 4 times more real fights.

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ah HA!

 

I caught you you godless slug!

 

how do you know the name "jungle bird"?

I have never mentioned this name.

has anyone ELSE mentioned this name?

 

NO!

an emphatic NO!

 

for shame junglebird.... for shame............

you are worse than a prostitute who has to buy change rolls to cash in her earnings.

 

your syphilitic nature makes me sick to my stomach. you are no better than a common tape worm feasting on feces.

 

I WILL CONSUME YOUR SOUL!

 

 

yours truely... the AUTHENTIC sir stephen colbert.

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Well you Couture fans already are discrediting Toney's move to MMA' date=' now your targeting his Boxing career like you know what your talking about. When he fought RJJ, he put everything on the line. Both were considered one of the top P4P best boxers in the world. They both put on the line to meet. He lost. But he still sacrificed his unbeaten record and maybe a better legacy to fight RJJ, because thats what the fans wanted to see.

 

Couture came back and was gifted a title shot for the UFC Heavyweight Belt. Was Toney ever gifted anything? No, he wasn't. He worked for it.[/quote']

 

I'm not discreditng Toney's move to MMA at all, if you read most of my posts about the subject I welcome it, and think Toney will come with a varied MMA skill set, I simply don't think it will be enough for the experience of someone like Randy, I think the only way Toney wins this right is on his feet, which I've constantly said is a pretty good cahnce.

 

As for his boxing career, he fought 3 big names in my opinion. RJJ, who he lost to. The Real Deal, who who beat, Evander was getting on a bit, but Toney is only like 4 years younger than him, so props to him on that one, and John Ruiz, who he got the decision against, but tested positive for roids after the fight, so it was overturned to a NC.

 

He should have fought the likes of Eubanks and Benn, but he ducked those fights. I'd love to see him try and fight Haye, then everyone swinging from his sack would just use his age for the reason he went to sleep!

 

However, feel free to tell me another top level fighter Toney ever fought, as you clearly know so much more than me.

 

For the record, I respect Toney's boxing, but the fact is, he aint that great at all.

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CarwinDemoMan66

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Randy never fought a can. Randy has fought more real names than James Toney has. In my opinion' date=' Couture has had 4 times more real fights.[/quote']

 

You don't understand how Boxers are made. Boxer's dont go 12-0 like Shane Carwin and get title shots at the whos who of their division. They build their records up with hard work and dedication. Some guys get title shots when their 25-0, or even higher or maybe a little lower. Boxers don't get thrown to the wolves in only 10 pro fights. Thats not how Boxing works. Boxing you need twice as experience as you do in MMA to be successful. Theirs various different styles and fighters that you'll face and you need to be prepared for any style.

 

As for Randy fighting more top competition, I do agree. But Toney held titles at Middleweight,Super Middleweight, Light Heavyweight, Cruierserweight, and now Heavyweight. Can't say alot of Boxers do that. It's not his fault the champions he beat didn't go on to become "known names". He fought who was on top at the time. Just because you haven't heard of someone, doesn't make them a can. The champs he beat just didn't get any recognition later in their careers.

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