6Tnine Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 Havent been on in a few days so im not sure if this has been posted, im busy right now so im not gonna search threw a bunch of pages for it. Article from MMA Fix. Announcing after a fight (that you just got beat down in) that you were injured heading into it, is kind of like telling your buddy you think his girl is banging your other friend; yes, people need to hear the truth, but that doesn?t mean they?re going to like hearing it. Okay, maybe those two things aren?t at all similar, (and here?s hoping you don?t have experience in either scenario) but if you were one of the people screaming ?B.S.? when Anderson Silva said he had injured his rib prior to his bout with Chael Sonnen, an apology might be in order. According to the California State Athletic Commission, who released their medical suspensions from UFC 117 yesterday, Silva is suspected of having a fractured rib and is suspended from fighting for 6 months (unless cleared by a doctor prior). Now yes, the rib injury could have been sustained during the fight while Sonnen continually beat on the champ, but the normally fleet of foot Silva did seem a little off from the opening bell no? It?s not like the CSAC said he didn?t hurt his rib; that would have looked sketchy. The confirmation doesn?t change much in the sense that we all knew Silva would be on the sidelines for a while, and although Sonnen certainly deserves another crack based off his performance, the door does seem wide open for a Sonnen vs. Vitor Belfort tilt in the meantime? Joe, Dana, the Fertitta fellas, we doing this So his ribs being injured was NOT just an excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro21 Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 I think his ribs may have been injured but not broken before the fight. I think they broke during the fight from Chael being relentless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roebusto Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 think you missed the word that starts with S SUSPECTED ( and that was even after an x-ray Hell I went into the doctors on a dodgie work compo claim with a fractured ankle, did not fracture it but played it up real well said it was sore to walk on or even put weight on and low and behold I was given a nice little payed vacation for a few days with a doctors note saying "SUSPECTED" fracture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LT_Chaos Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 I call BS on your attempt to BS Anderson's BS. Just kidding. Thanks for the heads up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito_Brigante Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 think you missed the word that starts with S SUSPECTED ( and that was even after an x-ray Hell I went into the doctors on a dodgie work compo claim with a fractured ankle' date=' did not fracture it but played it up real well said it was sore to walk on or even put weight on and low and behold I was given a nice little payed vacation for a few days with a doctors note saying "SUSPECTED" fracture[/quote'] Is there an x-ray yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roebusto Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 Is there an x-ray yet? The fight was in the States right? and he has seen Doctors right? and if you walk into a hospital complaining of sore ribs and troubles with breathing they normally send you get some tests done which normally involves some x-rays? Also the guy is fighting in the UFC so Dana White is not going to send him to Doctor Nicks for an opinion he would of been sent to a legitimate hospital. Its not as if he was fighting in China and broke his rib and was sent to a vet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_MC Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 think you missed the word that starts with S SUSPECTED ( and that was even after an x-ray Hell I went into the doctors on a dodgie work compo claim with a fractured ankle' date=' did not fracture it but played it up real well said it was sore to walk on or even put weight on and low and behold I was given a nice little payed vacation for a few days with a doctors note saying "SUSPECTED" fracture[/quote'] Cool story kid!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito_Brigante Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 The fight was in the States right?and he has seen Doctors right? and if you walk into a hospital complaining of sore ribs and troubles with breathing they normally send you get some tests done which normally involves some x-rays? Also the guy is fighting in the UFC so Dana White is not going to send him to Doctor Nicks for an opinion he would of been sent to a legitimate hospital. Its not as if he was fighting in China and broke his rib and was sent to a vet Your speculation is actually good. You're suspecting that this is all b/s when you just said those things above. ^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leal47 Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 If you watched the Pre-fight interviews with Anderson Silva and Chael Sonnen you can see Anderson touching his ribs and constantly moving, even Dane White looked at him like WTF. He fought at 70% of his ability regardless of being hurt or not and still manged to beat the best Chael Sonnen ever. Winning rounds is not the same as winning a fight. Anderson just proved to the world that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RampageTKO Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 Is there an x-ray yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roebusto Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 Your speculation is actually good. You're suspecting that this is all b/s when you just said those things above. ^^^ and your abiility to skim posts is good too. Once again doctors SUSPECT a fractured rib ( they did not pick anything up on the x-rays as if they did it would of been declared A fractured rib ) and seeing his job involves taking shots to the area that is SUSPECTED of being injuried they give him a 6 month rest time to heal JUST incase it is actually fractured. BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFC_Achilles Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 think you missed the word that starts with S SUSPECTED ( and that was even after an x-ray Hell I went into the doctors on a dodgie work compo claim with a fractured ankle' date=' did not fracture it but played it up real well said it was sore to walk on or even put weight on and low and behold I was given a nice little payed vacation for a few days with a doctors note saying "SUSPECTED" fracture[/quote'] Fraud is really cool man, ****s like you are the reason people who are actually hurt have such a tough time from employers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roebusto Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 Fraud is really cool man' date=' ****s like you are the reason people who are actually hurt have such a tough time from employers.[/quote'] bummer aye considering 6 months earlier I had a Hernia from heavy lifting from the same employer and had to pay for my Ulltrasounds then was forced to return to work early only to develop an infection in my stitchings due to my employer putting me back into the same workload that I actually got the injury from. There was no ease into coming back to work an this was 10 days after sergury. So yes I ****ed over a system that ****ed me over boohoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFC_Achilles Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 bummer aye considering 6 months earlier I had a Hernia from heavy lifting from the same employer and had to pay for my Ulltrasounds then was forced to return to work early only to develop an infection in my stitchings due to my employer putting me back into the same workload that I actually got the injury from. There was no ease into coming back to work an this was 10 days after sergury. So yes I ****ed over a system that ****ed me over boohoo Should've taken your prior situation up with the people your claim was filed with I guarantee you would have gotten an extension, im all for people not getting screwed by the system. My cousin broke his foot when loading trucks and he was off literally a month or two longer than he should have been because he talked to the people his warehouse filed the claim with. Btw they wanted him to go to back to work literally the day he broke it so they tried to ****** him too. But for the second situation, I know you had a bad history with the company but you don't need to go to illegal ends to "get even" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roebusto Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 My previous employers back to work coordinator was a filthy skank that had no right doing the job she was doing she was a walking contridiction head of the O H & S committee and weighing around 140kg ( she also took care of filing the claims ) So yes I do agree with you on my wrong doings but sometimes 2 wrongs does make a right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFC_Achilles Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 My previous employers back to work coordinator was a filthy skank that had no right doing the job she was doing she was a walking contrudiction head of teh O H & S committee and weighing around 140kg ( she also took care of filing the claims ) Ah, the lady my cousin talked to was really nice. It helped too that they told my cousin not only to come back after he had his x-ray done (they literally wanted him to work the rest of that day) but they also tried to get him to come back to work while he was still on his pain medicine (lortabs) which are illegal to drive on. So he pretty much had them by the balls on a few things lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilspinin Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 The fight was in the States right?and he has seen Doctors right? and if you walk into a hospital complaining of sore ribs and troubles with breathing they normally send you get some tests done which normally involves some x-rays? Also the guy is fighting in the UFC so Dana White is not going to send him to Doctor Nicks for an opinion he would of been sent to a legitimate hospital. Its not as if he was fighting in China and broke his rib and was sent to a vet Whats wrong with Dr. Nick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimpygimpet Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 Havent been on in a few days so im not sure if this has been posted' date=' im busy right now so im not gonna search threw a bunch of pages for it. Article from MMA Fix. So his ribs being injured was NOT just an excuse.[/quote'] It had to have been fractured during the fight because he wouldn't have been cleared if it was fractured coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6Tnine Posted August 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 It had to have been fractured during the fight because he wouldn't have been cleared if it was fractured coming in. that doesnt mean it wasnt injured before the fight though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roebusto Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 you cant half fracture something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6Tnine Posted August 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 you cant half fracture something i think we all know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimpygimpet Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 that doesnt mean it wasnt injured before the fight though. The worst he could've had is bruised ribs. That isn't that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6Tnine Posted August 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 The worst he could've had is bruised ribs. That isn't that bad. Have you ever had bruised ribs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6Tnine Posted August 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 The worst he could've had is bruised ribs. That isn't that bad. going into a fight with a wrestler as relentless as Sonnen with bruised ribs will really **** you up. Ribs injuries are one of the worst injuries you can get man. imagine having ****ed up ribs, and having some guy that weighs around 200lbs constantly driving through you, taking you down, dropping you on your back, and laying on you and punching you in the body for 23 consecutive minutes. im surprised Anderson didnt quit man, im not saying his ribs were fractured before the fight, i know they werent, he wouldnt have been cleared to fight if they were. but they were still injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimpygimpet Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 going into a fight with a wrestler as relentless as Sonnen with bruised ribs will really **** you up. Ribs injuries are one of the worst injuries you can get man. imagine having ****ed up ribs' date=' and having some guy that weighs around 200lbs constantly driving through you, taking you down, dropping you on your back, and laying on you and punching you in the body for 23 consecutive minutes. im surprised Anderson didnt quit man, im not saying his ribs were fractured before the fight, i know they werent, he wouldnt have been cleared to fight if they were. but they were still injured.[/quote'] I've wrestled with bruised ribs. I can see how it feels. I didn't get punched but i got driven into and slammed. Again, It isn't that bad. It feels like what it'd feel like if someone dug there finger into a bruise on an arm or something except inside your ribs and a little bit weirder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6Tnine Posted August 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 I've wrestled with bruised ribs. I can see how it feels. I didn't get punched but i got driven into and slammed. Again' date=' It isn't that bad. It feels like what it'd feel like if someone dug there finger into a bruise on an arm or something except inside your ribs and a little bit weirder.[/quote'] yeah but theres so many things you have to take in to consideration, so many variable. His rib bruise could have been 100 times worse then yours for all we know. just too many variables you know ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimpygimpet Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 yeah but theres so many things you have to take in to consideration' date=' so many variable. His rib bruise could have been 100 times worse then yours for all we know. just too many variables you know ?[/quote'] Mine was pretty bad but we are in agreement there. His indeed could've been a bigger bruise or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold_Howard Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 Rumor has it that he broke his rib trying to give himself a BJ, that's how in love with himself he is. JK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMMAMind Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 I Wrestled In high school and had to wrestle a few times with bruised ribs. Anyone who has played any kind of contact sport knows the feeling of competing like this. That being said Silva was rocked on a few occassions (which getting rocked had 0 to do with his ribs) I think that's what set up the take downs. Fact is if he was going to use this as an excuse then he shouldn't have fought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimpygimpet Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 I Wrestled In high school and had to wrestle a few times with bruised ribs. Anyone who has played any kind of contact sport knows the feeling of competing like this. That being said Silva was rocked on a few occassions (which getting rocked had 0 to do with his ribs) I think that's what set up the take downs. Fact is if he was going to use this as an excuse then he shouldn't have fought. You used to wrestle. I never thought wrestling with bruised ribs was that bad. I'll admit when i got taken down and landed all weird i thought they were broke but that pain goes away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vendur Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 This is complete BS. doctors don't "suspect fractured ribs". They know if any ribs are fractured. In reality he is just suffering froma case of pussitus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Bearcat Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 I call BS! Anderson is a liar. He paid the commission to medically suspend him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roebusto Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 I call BS! Anderson is a liar. He paid the commission to medically suspend him! and your abiility to skim posts is good too. Once again doctors SUSPECT a fractured rib ( they did not pick anything up on the x-rays as if they did it would of been declared A fractured rib ) and seeing his job involves taking shots to the area that is SUSPECTED of being injuried they give him a 6 month rest time to heal JUST incase it is actually fractured. BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshdfs Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 There could be pictures of his ribcage sticking out through his skin and there would still be haters here calling it all BS and accusing him of "excuse making" or "ducking" because the trivial childlike hate and jealousy that drives them is all they have in their pathetic little excuses for lives. Like has been pointed out numerous times in this thread, these are medical professionals employed by the state commission whose livelihood depends on their integrity and reliability of diagnosis. Whether it is broken or not it is obviously injured to the point that warrants a 6 month medical suspension. As professionals they aren't just going to throw "suspected" out there with pretty damn good reason to suspect it. And Sonnen did nothing in that fight that should lead anyone to believe he caused any injury to Silva's ribs, which should lead any reasonable person to the conclusion that he came into the fight injured, and the fight itself aggravated it. Regardless of any of that, to anyone who has watched Silva fight before in his career, even just once, he was obviously not functioning at full capacity coming into that fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkhills1 Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 It had to have been fractured during the fight because he wouldn't have been cleared if it was fractured coming in. right he would have never been cleard if the were broke befor the fight.fact is there would be to big a risk of getting a puctured lung if he went in with broken ribs,so STOP WITH ALL THE EXCUSES FOR ANDERSONS WEAK PERFORMANCE THAT NIGHT ALREADY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobraa Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 Havent been on in a few days so im not sure if this has been posted' date=' im busy right now so im not gonna search threw a bunch of pages for it. Article from MMA Fix. So his ribs being injured was NOT just an excuse.[/quote'] stop sticking up for this tool already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicoCeli Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 The worst he could've had is bruised ribs. That isn't that bad. Why is that? If he didn't alert the UFC to his injury he could have easily made it into the fight with a worse injury. Just saying. Maybe it was nothing more than bruised ribs but it could have been worse. Bruised ribs maybe aren't that bad if you are going to sit behind a desk but if you are going to step into a cage to get punched maybe having a rib injury is kind of a handicap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roebusto Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 Why is that? If he didn't alert the UFC to his injury he could have easily made it into the fight with a worse injury. Just saying. Maybe it was nothing more than bruised ribs but it could have been worse. Bruised ribs maybe aren't that bad if you are going to sit behind a desk but if you are going to step into a cage to get punched maybe having a rib injury is kind of a handicap. You do know that they do go through a medical on the same day as the weigh ins right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicoCeli Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 Its not like a 6 month lay off is even that long in the fight game. How often does GSP fight? When is Shogun fighting again? Silva seems to defend his belt a lot more often than anyone else. Of course he also holds onto his belt longer than most or any other champion for that matter. Hell, he still has it even after losing 4 1/2 rounds. He didn't need an excuse because he won and when it comes down to it thats all that matters. He obviously was addressing his fans and not the haters when he informed US of the injury that he believes was responsible for his lackluster performance. Truthfully, maybe Chael was only good enough to beat him for as long as he did and Silva was good enough to win in 15 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicoCeli Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 You do know that they do go through a medical on the same day as the weigh ins right? Yes I am aware of that but as someone pointed out earlier, its quite easy to play up an injury and just as easy to play down one. Does the medical include a full body scan? Doubt it. Would they have given his ribs an x-ray if he didn't complain of pain? Doubt it. Is he tough enough to make it thru a medical without tipping his hand? Probably. I respect your skepticism being a skeptic myself but question the motive. Why? Why second guess his injury? He won't be gone that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roebusto Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 if he legitametly had bruising or a fracture has he claims the slightest touch would have made him winse ( and no matter how tough you are the body cant be faked out of a winse ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaballa Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 Well Silva didn't look 100% on that fight, and maybe thats why he got caught by Sonnen(great takedowns, but not known for great striking) or he was just unlucky. And Silva slipped on round 5, even Sonnen admitted taking advantage of that during post fight interview. So eitherway Silva wasn't 100% or unlucky(or both).. however Silva still won the fight fair n square and even Dana White or Sonnen won't deny that. So even if injured rib story is BS, Silva is still won that fight and thats why he is still the champion. p.s. i rewatched that fight many times trying to see Anderson defending one particular side of the rib. but it was kinda hard to tell. Silva did take some shots to both sides of the ribs during round 1-5 but nothing heavy. One thing i did noticed is that Silva had painful expression on his face when he got taken down on 3rd round. (i'm not sure if it had anything to do with his ribs..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyran125 Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 GOD isnt the champion that PROOVED he was the champion allowed to rest his injuries!?!?! man.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicoCeli Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 if he legitametly had bruising or a fracture has he claims the slightest touch would have made him winse ( and no matter how tough you are the body cant be faked out of a winse ) I imagine there can be different degrees of bruising. Actually, I don't imagine I know. Some bruises are on the surface and others are deeper in the muscle. A few guys on this thread said they have wrestled with bruised ribs and that was more than likely at a high school level but possibly college. If a bunch of teenagers can compete with bruised ribs than I imagine a professional like Anderson can handle it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkReflection Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 fractures can be hard to detect...it could have been there before the fight....or it could have been broken during that first round.. either way...Silva was injured before the fight....he didn't fight up to his full potential...but he still won... Can't wait for the rematch to see just how much of an impact that injury and the family stuff had on that first fight. Cheers -DR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisted_Mind Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 It had to have been fractured during the fight because he wouldn't have been cleared if it was fractured coming in. Maybe not, if anderson didnt say anything about like my ribs hurt or something they might not check them. Even though the doc checks you up, he wont go microscopic on you. I dont know how they check fighters in the states, but here they ask you bunch of questions and do some testing, its not like they check everything if you dont speak up. Also you cant see a broken/injured rib if its not swollen. I dont know if the doctor did a full check on him... However i remember reading somewhere that anderson had some swollen **** on him before the fight, dont know and really i dont care. Anderson was off, you cant really argue with that, i dont know if he was injured or not, i believe he was. In the end Silva still won the fight and thats all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisted_Mind Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 if he legitametly had bruising or a fracture has he claims the slightest touch would have made him winse ( and no matter how tough you are the body cant be faked out of a winse ) I disagree, i have had broken ribs. Yes they hurt, but only when you apply pressure to them like tensioning your abs, laughing or coughing then they hurt, but other than that its not that bad. They still hurt less than a broken finger for example or a broken arm and still you see guys competing with those injuries, these guys are tough and some of them can push through the pain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP_Ghost Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Is there an x-ray yet? you make it sound like its common practice that fighters put their x-rays online to prove it to fans.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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