wingzero8717 Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 title explains discuss below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadSquire Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Jon Fitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingzero8717 Posted August 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Jon Fitch hes definitely top 3 WW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KansasCityKing Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Fitch or BJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remedx Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Carlos Condit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bright508620 Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 not even close with BJ. lol. It will either be Fitch or Shields. But i believe it will be Fitch because hes use to the UFC and everything and has better wrestling than Shields who is not use to the UFC. GSP won't move up for another 2-3 fights. Hes #1 ever though. GO GSP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous505 Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 i voted for Paulo Thiago because nobody else will hahqa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypnotik2717 Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Fitch or Shields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGNx559 Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Fitch, already the most dominant WW in the division. I can see Shields beating him tho, he has nice reversals and good subs, but Fitch's jiu jitsu defense is great also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHenry Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 If Bj goes back to WW he'll be champ, otherwise i think id go with Hardy because i think he will really improve after that lose to GSP. Working Jiu jitsu with Eddie Bravo will close the grappling gap with alot of the other WWs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwGSP Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 if bj goes back to ww he'll be champ' date=' otherwise i think [b']id go with hardy [/b]because i think he will really improve after that lose to gsp. Working jiu jitsu with eddie bravo will close the grappling gap with alot of the other wws lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHenry Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 lol. o im sorry is it because he made GSP look like a boring tool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdBlood Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 It would be cool if GSP moves up, but not until he has fought Shield's! I generally feel this match up would be a great fight to watch.. And I'm pretty sure GSP would showcase his stand up skills more in this match too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guthro777 Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Fitch or BJ +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KansasCityKing Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 o im sorry is it because he made GSP look like a boring tool? No because GSP made him look like he was nothing. Let's see he isn't as good of a striker as Alves. He can't out grapple...well anybody. How the hell is he gonna become champion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mg10 Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I put Fitch just because Shields has not fought a fight yet in the UFC, but he could very well end up being better than Fitch. After the Kampann fight and maybe 2-3 others we can see where Shields stands in the division. BJ I dont think will move back up to welterweight unless it is to get a third match with GSP. Alves and Hardy I dont think will become champions because they will be dominated by the wrestlers at the top of the welterweight division. Thiago does not look ready yet to become a top contender in the welterweight division, but he has a ton of potential and could in the future be a top contender. Koscheck could definitely make a run at it, but I am not sure he is just too unpredictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderProdigy Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 BJ if he could stuff the TDs of Fitch/Sheilds/Kos, if not Fitch or Kampmann. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHenry Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 No because GSP made him look like he was nothing.Let's see he isn't as good of a striker as Alves. He can't out grapple...well anybody. How the hell is he gonna become champion? Yes GSP did, but he did 0 damage to Hardy and Hardy was able to stand-up off his back 3 times i believe. Alves is a terrible excuse for a WW imho. He has the grappling of a cancer patient and never makes weight. Well with a purple belt under Eddie Bravo he looked pretty stout off his back, only time will tell how good he will get. How will anyone else be champion? dont bash me because i happen to believe in fighters i like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graciejitz Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Fitch' date=' already the most dominant WW in the division. I can see Shields beating him tho, he has nice reversals and good subs, but Fitch's jiu jitsu defense is great also.[/quote'] Shields beat Fitch in a grappling match, but I think in a fight Fitch would win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFC_Achilles Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I really like Shields and Fitch, I cant say who would win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KansasCityKing Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Yes GSP did' date=' but he did 0 damage to Hardy and Hardy was able to stand-up off his back 3 times i believe. Alves is a terrible excuse for a WW imho. He has the grappling of a cancer patient and never makes weight. Well with a purple belt under Eddie Bravo he looked pretty stout off his back, only time will tell how good he will get. How will anyone else be champion? dont bash me because i happen to believe in fighters i like[/quote'] Guess nearly breaking his arm doesn't count eh? Aves is big and misses weight but thats where he is and as long as he's there he's gonna hold the title for best striker. People need to quit complaining. A purple belt under anybody isn't going to get you far in that level of competition especially when most of the guys in that division are top grapplers. Fitch is the second best WW in the world. He has beat pretty much everyone except for GSP. Alves like I said is a better striker than Hardy and has a shot against anybody. Kos is a top wrestler with decent kickboxing. He actually poses the biggest threat to GSP because he will try to finish unlike Fitch but Fitch and Alves would tool him. Shields is like Fitch but with better submissions. Then comes your boy Hardy with excellent striking and a piss poor ground game. By the way I'm not bashing you but Hardy just isn't good enough to take on the top 5 guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForcexrecoN Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 If fitch is still here when GSP is gone, WW PPV's will be getting hit hard with low ratings unless the card has another title fight on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptawesome Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Yes GSP did' date=' but he did 0 damage to Hardy and Hardy was able to stand-up off his back 3 times i believe. Alves is a terrible excuse for a WW imho. He has the[b'] grappling of a cancer patient [/b]and never makes weight. Well with a purple belt under Eddie Bravo he looked pretty stout off his back, only time will tell how good he will get. How will anyone else be champion? dont bash me because i happen to believe in fighters i like lol thats so ****ed up but funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHenry Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Guess nearly breaking his arm doesn't count eh?Aves is big and misses weight but thats where he is and as long as he's there he's gonna hold the title for best striker. People need to quit complaining. A purple belt under anybody isn't going to get you far in that level of competition especially when most of the guys in that division are top grapplers. Fitch is the second best WW in the world. He has beat pretty much everyone except for GSP. Alves like I said is a better striker than Hardy and has a shot against anybody. Kos is a top wrestler with decent kickboxing. He actually poses the biggest threat to GSP because he will try to finish unlike Fitch but Fitch and Alves would tool him. Shields is like Fitch but with better submissions. Then comes your boy Hardy with excellent striking and a piss poor ground game. By the way I'm not bashing you but Hardy just isn't good enough to take on the top 5 guys. You obviously dont know who Eddie Bravo is, and if that purple belt was so unimportant how come Hardy walked out unscaved? Alves hasnt T(KO)ed any top(by your definition) competition, granted neither has Hardy but Alves style is the worst in the UFC. What good is deadly muay thai if you cant push forward w/o being takendown? Fitch and shields probably would beat Hardy in the same fashion GSP did but im hoping he has the work ethic and trains his grappling enough to were he can beat the **** out of those decision cranking excuses for fighters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KansasCityKing Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 You obviously dont know who Eddie Bravo is' date=' and if that purple belt was so unimportant how come Hardy walked out unscaved? Alves hasnt T(KO)ed any top(by your definition) competition, granted neither has Hardy but Alves style is the worst in the UFC. What good is deadly muay thai if you cant push forward w/o being takendown? Fitch and shields probably would beat Hardy in the same fashion GSP did but im hoping he has the work ethic and trains his grappling enough to were he can beat the **** out of those decision cranking excuses for fighters[/quote'] That's just it he didn't walk out unscathed his BJJ skills didn't keep him from getting submitted him having the heart to let GSP bend the arm was what saved him. Eddie Bravo may be a total stud when it comes to BJJ but like I said a purple belt under anybody won't do a lot considering that it equals out to about a yellow or green belt in karate. And if Hardy is just learning BJJ he should go to a more traditional place because 10th Planet is more geared towards funky submissions from weird positions. I don't think he will be able to defend their takedowns or grapple back to his feet against any of them any time soon. The good news is Hardy is 28 and Fitch Kos and Shields are all in their 30s so he has time to grow and they'll probably pass their prime in the next couple of years. The bad news is Thiago Alves is still only 26 so he'll be hitting his peak right around then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leiting Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Jon. Fitch. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCDynasty Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 This poll would be better posted after everyone has seen jake sheilds fight with kampman because i'm sure not everyone here watches SF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandicoot Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 shields isnt getting past kampmann. koscheck will be the next WW champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epilogue1406051983 Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Fitch or Shields are the likely picks... however, I'm hoping Kampmann pulls out the stops... the guy is well rounded and I think he stands a solid chance... if Shields becomes champ by hugging a guys legs against the cage, I'm going to be super pissed... at least GSP TRIES to finish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosnianbjj Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 jon fitch lo probrem BLEE DAT GUN GITCHU PRINCESS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seXXXpac Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Carlos Condit You are a smart man Condit vs Sanchez for the WW title would make my year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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