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As of this moment, which division do you think is the most strongest, stacked, talented.

For the Lightweight and below, I combined the 155, 145 & 135 lbs fighters

Here are some of my analysis:

 

HW - Brock, Overeem, Werdum, Cain, JDS. These guys are very dominant as of now. Brock retains his title, Overeem dominated Rogers, Werdum makes Fedor tapped, Cain is still undefeated and beat a lot of quality opponents, JDS is still undefeated in his UFC career, beating guys like Cro Cop, Werdum, Nelson

Then this division have a lot of reliable guys, like Mir, Fedor, Carwin, Cro Cop, Big Nog, Kongo, Schaub, Nelson, Rothwell, Antonio Silva.

Guys like Lashley & Duffee are just waiting to explode.

 

LHW - King Mo and Rashad are the best guys in this division right now. Machida & Rampage are also about to explode on the scene again. The New Kids on the Block Jones & Bader are very dominant, before the 2011 ends, one of this 2 will hold the LHW belt.

Their reliables are Forrest, Couture, Mousasi, Franklin, Hammil, Bonnar, Ortiz, T. Silva

Then they have the Boxer Toney and the injured Shogun

 

MW - Anderson is unbeatable. Vittor, Jacare, Sonnen, Maia, Marquadt, Hendo, Wanderlei, Lawler, Okami, Munoz, Leben, Belcher, Sexyama, Palhares. This division is stacked like the HW.

 

WW - The no. 1 P4P of the world is in this div and he's GSP. Fitch looks very dangerous recently and with only 1 thing in mind "Beat GSP". KOS just defeated 2 slugger (Rumble & Daley). The addition of Shield makes this div more interesting.

Plus their reliables Alves, Thiago, Swick, Kappman, Dollaway, Sadollah, Diaz brothers, Marcus Davies, Lytle, Hathaway

 

LW & Below - Penn, Kenflo, Edgar, Maynard, Gomi, Melendez, Aldo, Alvarez, Huerta, Cruz, Binavidez, Bowles, Torres, Faber, Brown, Henderson. George Sot, Aoki, Ganburyan, Guillard, Etim

Removing Penn on this div, then this div would be very balanced & interesting.

 

 

My pick would be the Heavyweight division. Brock & Overeem wont be losing anytime soon, Cain & JDS would be a dominant force in the future. Carwin & Mir are still very dangerous and anytime now expect them to fight for the title again.

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As of this moment' date=' which division do you think is the most strongest, stacked, talented.

For the Lightweight and below, I combined the 155, 145 & 135 lbs fighters

Here are some of my analysis:

 

[b']HW[/b] - Brock, Overeem, Werdum, Cain, JDS. These guys are very dominant as of now. Brock retains his title, Overeem dominated Rogers, Werdum makes Fedor tapped, Cain is still undefeated and beat a lot of quality opponents, JDS is still undefeated in his UFC career, beating guys like Cro Cop, Werdum, Nelson

Then this division have a lot of reliable guys, like Mir, Carwin, Cro Cop, Big Nog, Kongo, Schaub, Nelson, Rothwell, Antonio Silva.

Guys like Lashley & Duffee are just waiting to explode.

 

LHW - King Mo and Rashad are the best guys in this division right now. Machida & Rampage are also about to explode on the scene again. The New Kids on the Block Jones & Bader are very dominant, before the 2011 ends, one of this 2 will hold the LHW belt.

Their reliables are Forrest, Couture, Mousasi, Franklin, Hammil, Bonnar, Ortiz, T. Silva

Then they have the Boxer Toney.

 

MW - Anderson is unbeatable. Vittor, Jacare, Sonnen, Maia, Marquadt, Hendo, Wanderlei, Lawler, Okami, Munoz, Leben, Belcher, Sexyama, Palhares. This division is stacked like the HW.

 

WW - The no. 1 P4P of the world is in this div and he's GSP. Fitch looks very dangerous recently and with only 1 thing in mind "Beat GSP". KOS just defeated 2 slugger (Rumble & Daley). The addition of Shield makes this div more interesting.

Plus their reliables Alves, Thiago, Swick, Kappman, Dollaway, Sadollah, Diaz brothers, Marcus Davies, Lytle, Hathaway

 

LW & Below - Penn, Kenflo, Edgar, Maynard, Gomi, Melendez, Aldo, Alvarez, Huerta, Cruz, Binavidez, Bowles, Torres, Faber, Brown, Henderson. George Sot, Aoki, Ganburyan, Guillard, Etim

Removing Penn on this div, then this div would be very balanced & interesting.

 

 

My pick would be the Heavyweight division. Brock & Overeem wont be losing anytime soon, Cain & JDS would be a dominant force in the future. Carwin & Mir are still very dangerous and anytime now expect them to fight for the title again.

 

You failed to mention Shogun in the LHW description. This is already a fail thread. Also you said Rashad and King Mo are best in the division so that's more of a fail.

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You failed to mention Shogun in the LHW description. This is already a fail thread. Also you said Rashad and King Mo are best in the division so that's more of a fail.

 

Shogun's record in UFC is a dismal 3-2 in the UFC and 2 of those 3 wins are against the ageing Lidell & Coleman, if he havent got lucky against Machida, his record would have been 2-3

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I would say WW' date=' its got a lot of names and a lot of talent.

I think the HW division isn't realy that good compared to other weight classes. It has about 15 good fighters in and out of the UFC, and thats about it, no real depth[/quote']

 

Sorry if I didn't put AA in there, honestly he's one of my favorite fighter. Is just that he's inconsistent lately, but I know he's still a good fighter.

War Andrei.

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LHW is the most stacked and exciting division imo. Even though you mention Evans as the standout, but not Shogun. And I don't know too many you'll find that'll agree with statement that Shogun got lucky against Machida. I'm a Machida fan and I think the Dragon was fortunate to escape the first time, no questions about the second time. Shogun won't hold the belt for too long imo just because there are so many guys in legit contention for it.

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King Mo beat Mousasi' date=' then Rashad has just recently beat 2 top fighters (Rampage & T. Silva)[/quote']

 

King Mo should have lost that fight, even though mo hold him on the ground the first four rounds he got beat up there and he only threw punches in the fifth round so how the **** do you pick control over damage? Gay judges

 

Rashad cant beat shogun or machida and well mo couldnt beat Rampage, Franklin, Shogun, Henderson, Jones even Wandarlei as of now could be hard for him. Hes 7-0 but he hasnt faced a top tier competition besides mousasi and i dont think he would be even a contender in ufc

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Sorry if I didn't put AA in there' date=' honestly he's one of my favorite fighter. Is just that he's inconsistent lately, but I know he's still a good fighter.

War Andrei.[/quote']

 

Yeah, his chin seems to be letting him down aswell though, he just could never take a big punch. Very technical though, on the feet and on the ground. Don't think he would make top 10 again seen as he got outstruck by Bigfoot lol

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As of this moment' date=' which division do you think is the most strongest, stacked, talented.

For the Lightweight and below, I combined the 155, 145 & 135 lbs fighters

Here are some of my analysis:

 

[b']HW[/b] - Brock, Overeem, Werdum, Cain, JDS. These guys are very dominant as of now. Brock retains his title, Overeem dominated Rogers, Werdum makes Fedor tapped, Cain is still undefeated and beat a lot of quality opponents, JDS is still undefeated in his UFC career, beating guys like Cro Cop, Werdum, Nelson

Then this division have a lot of reliable guys, like Mir, Fedor, Carwin, Cro Cop, Big Nog, Kongo, Schaub, Nelson, Rothwell, Antonio Silva.

Guys like Lashley & Duffee are just waiting to explode.

 

LHW - King Mo and Rashad are the best guys in this division right now. Machida & Rampage are also about to explode on the scene again. The New Kids on the Block Jones & Bader are very dominant, before the 2011 ends, one of this 2 will hold the LHW belt.

Their reliables are Forrest, Couture, Mousasi, Franklin, Hammil, Bonnar, Ortiz, T. Silva

Then they have the Boxer Toney and the injured Shogun

 

MW - Anderson is unbeatable. Vittor, Jacare, Sonnen, Maia, Marquadt, Hendo, Wanderlei, Lawler, Okami, Munoz, Leben, Belcher, Sexyama, Palhares. This division is stacked like the HW.

 

WW - The no. 1 P4P of the world is in this div and he's GSP. Fitch looks very dangerous recently and with only 1 thing in mind "Beat GSP". KOS just defeated 2 slugger (Rumble & Daley). The addition of Shield makes this div more interesting.

Plus their reliables Alves, Thiago, Swick, Kappman, Dollaway, Sadollah, Diaz brothers, Marcus Davies, Lytle, Hathaway

 

LW & Below - Penn, Kenflo, Edgar, Maynard, Gomi, Melendez, Aldo, Alvarez, Huerta, Cruz, Binavidez, Bowles, Torres, Faber, Brown, Henderson. George Sot, Aoki, Ganburyan, Guillard, Etim

Removing Penn on this div, then this div would be very balanced & interesting.

 

 

My pick would be the Heavyweight division. Brock & Overeem wont be losing anytime soon, Cain & JDS would be a dominant force in the future. Carwin & Mir are still very dangerous and anytime now expect them to fight for the title again.

 

The Couture/Toney fight is at HW, just for clarification sake. I agree with Jones and Bader at LHW. These two are bound to meet and soon after one will be challenging for the belt. They are certainly making waves.

 

WW: All those names at WW and you don't even mention Hughes? Yes, I'm hugely biased toward Matt Hughes, but I think he at least bears mentioning as he's on a three fight win streak, two of those stoppages. The last was also against someone a lot of people thought would have the tools to easily beat Hughes, and he got strangled unconscious. No, hell likely never make a run at the belt again but he's not as old as a lot of people think, proved he is still more than relevant in the division, and has a hell of a lot of fight left in him.

 

LW: Remove Penn and the division is balanced? How about Edgar, ya know, THE CHAMPION. He beat Penn, and is the only man to beat him at LW in YEARS. Much like Sonnen, even in defeat did to Anderson Silva, Edgar stole a lot of the mystique surrounding Penn. Is BJ a phenomenal fighter? Of course he is. He also lost to another phenomenal LW in Edgar.

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in order

 

WW- With GSP owning the top, there is an illusion that its JUST gsp, but take GSP away, there are 4 guys who can be just as dominant, take those guys away, and there are 15 guys who are super skilled and id love to see them fight. when theres a big fight between hughes and almedia, and nobody is even considering top 10, its pretty funny.

 

LHW-I think this has better top 10 talent than WW, but by no means from #10-#25 even come close to WW. this division seems a little past its prime. But still #1b imo on deepest div

 

LW-if anything, depth is the only thing going for the LW division, missing a lot of high end talent that can push them over the top, a workhorse in florian is everyones top 2-3. a sad sight. but you go down the list, and id say its a 10 way tie for #5 on the LW charts.

 

HW-some interesting fights coming up with talent that has seem to avoid each other, so its exciting to get to see how those top 4-5 unfold, but dont mistake that for depth. it is actually a pretty weak division.

 

MW-when you think of the avg athlete and human, they can usually fit in the 185 range, so why is it the top fighters seem to avoid this weight class. if this division gets 1 vote on this thread, its an outrage. bring sheilds up!

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The Couture/Toney fight is at HW' date=' just for clarification sake. I agree with Jones and Bader at LHW. These two are bound to meet and soon after one will be challenging for the belt. They are certainly making waves.

 

WW: All those names at WW and you don't even mention Hughes? Yes, I'm hugely biased toward Matt Hughes, but I think he at least bears mentioning as he's on a three fight win streak, two of those stoppages. The last was also against someone a lot of people thought would have the tools to easily beat Hughes, and he got strangled unconscious. No, hell likely never make a run at the belt again but he's not as old as a lot of people think, proved he is still more than relevant in the division, and has a hell of a lot of fight left in him.

 

LW: Remove Penn and the division is balanced? How about Edgar, ya know, THE CHAMPION. He beat Penn, and is the only man to beat him at LW in YEARS. Much like Sonnen, even in defeat did to Anderson Silva, Edgar stole a lot of the mystique surrounding Penn. Is BJ a phenomenal fighter? Of course he is. He also lost to another phenomenal LW in Edgar.[/quote']

 

After Penn beat the Lucky guy Edgar in their rematch, Edgar will become a can, Like Rogers he cannot win again.

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As of this moment' date=' which division do you think is the most strongest, stacked, talented.

For the Lightweight and below, I combined the 155, 145 & 135 lbs fighters

Here are some of my analysis:

 

[b']HW[/b] - Brock, Overeem, Werdum, Cain, JDS. These guys are very dominant as of now. Brock retains his title, Overeem dominated Rogers, Werdum makes Fedor tapped, Cain is still undefeated and beat a lot of quality opponents, JDS is still undefeated in his UFC career, beating guys like Cro Cop, Werdum, Nelson

Then this division have a lot of reliable guys, like Mir, Fedor, Carwin, Cro Cop, Big Nog, Kongo, Schaub, Nelson, Rothwell, Antonio Silva.

Guys like Lashley & Duffee are just waiting to explode.

 

LHW - King Mo and Rashad are the best guys in this division right now. Machida & Rampage are also about to explode on the scene again. The New Kids on the Block Jones & Bader are very dominant, before the 2011 ends, one of this 2 will hold the LHW belt.

Their reliables are Forrest, Couture, Mousasi, Franklin, Hammil, Bonnar, Ortiz, T. Silva

Then they have the Boxer Toney and the injured Shogun

 

MW - Anderson is unbeatable. Vittor, Jacare, Sonnen, Maia, Marquadt, Hendo, Wanderlei, Lawler, Okami, Munoz, Leben, Belcher, Sexyama, Palhares. This division is stacked like the HW.

 

WW - The no. 1 P4P of the world is in this div and he's GSP. Fitch looks very dangerous recently and with only 1 thing in mind "Beat GSP". KOS just defeated 2 slugger (Rumble & Daley). The addition of Shield makes this div more interesting.

Plus their reliables Alves, Thiago, Swick, Kappman, Dollaway, Sadollah, Diaz brothers, Marcus Davies, Lytle, Hathaway

 

LW & Below - Penn, Kenflo, Edgar, Maynard, Gomi, Melendez, Aldo, Alvarez, Huerta, Cruz, Binavidez, Bowles, Torres, Faber, Brown, Henderson. George Sot, Aoki, Ganburyan, Guillard, Etim

Removing Penn on this div, then this div would be very balanced & interesting.

 

 

My pick would be the Heavyweight division. Brock & Overeem wont be losing anytime soon, Cain & JDS would be a dominant force in the future. Carwin & Mir are still very dangerous and anytime now expect them to fight for the title again.

 

Did somebody hack Raffy's account, there's no way he would ever admit that.

 

If it was really you Raffy then good on yah, I think i'm in shock

 

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King Mo beat Mousasi' date=' then Rashad has just recently beat 2 top fighters (Rampage & T. Silva)[/quote']

 

nope the only reason king dumby won is because he was on top the whole fight but Mousasi beat his **** from the bottom judges dont give any credit to the work fighters do off there back the way they should

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Shogun's record in UFC is a dismal 3-2 in the UFC and 2 of those 3 wins are against the ageing Lidell & Coleman' date=' if he havent got lucky against Machida, his record would have been 2-3[/quote']

 

Neither Fedor nor Werdum is in the UFC! again! this thread fails xD and neither is rogers, Alistair is not in there either! UFC seems to be the only promotion around for you?

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Heres my order:

 

1. LHW (Machida, Shogun, Rashad, king mo, rampage, Couture, Jon Jones, Ryan Bader, Mousasi, lil nog, Franklin, Griffin, T. Silva, Ortiz)

2. WW ( GSP, Fitch, Kos, Shields, Kampmann, Saunders, Hughes, Hathaway, Nick&Nate Diaz, Alves, Lytle)

3. LW ( Penn, Edgar, Maynard, Florian, Aldo, Guida, Aoki, G-sot, Pelligrino , Melendez, Faber, Alvarez)

4.MW - MW is overrated. (Silva, Sonnen, Marquart, Okami, W. Silva, Belcher, Hendo, Palhares, )

5.HW - just not enough talent at the max weight, in a few years hopefully this division is filled up with freak of nature superstars.

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After Penn beat the Lucky guy Edgar in their rematch' date=' Edgar will become a can, Like Rogers he cannot win again.[/quote']

 

ridiculous statement and ridiculous thread to begin with....I agree with many others, to call King Mo and Rashad the two best LHs and barely mention shogun is outrageous.

 

That being said, I do think LHW is the most competitive, but heavyweight is on average my favorite to watch. I think though that the belt at LH is gonna move around a lot, until Jones has it and holds it for a long time. He gets hated on a lot because of all his hype, but I believe its well deserved. He's at the best camp and with his youth, wrestling, speed and incredible creativity on the feet, the sky really is the limit.

 

Also, as a final note, I wanna see GSP vs. Hughes 4.

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ridiculous statement and ridiculous thread to begin with....I agree with many others' date=' to call King Mo and Rashad the two best LHs and barely mention shogun is outrageous.

 

That being said, I do think LHW is the most competitive, but heavyweight is on average my favorite to watch. I think though that the belt at LH is gonna move around a lot, until Jones has it and holds it for a long time. He gets hated on a lot because of all his hype, but I believe its well deserved. He's at the best camp and with his youth, wrestling, speed and incredible creativity on the feet, the sky really is the limit.

 

Also, as a final note, I wanna see GSP vs. Hughes 4.[/quote']

 

I dont think the GSP vs Hughes again will be a competitive fight

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As of this moment' date=' which division do you think is the most strongest, stacked, talented......

 

BLAH BLAH BLAH...I LOOVE BROCK... YADDA YADDA... WASTE OF DATA... BLAH BLAH RAMBLE... I LOOOVE BROCK... BLAH BLAH.

 

 

My pick would be the Heavyweight division. Brock & Overeem wont be losing anytime soon, Cain & JDS would be a dominant force in the future. Carwin & Mir are still very dangerous and anytime now expect them to fight for the title again.[/quote']

 

All that to once again declare an over abundance of borderline creepy man love for the Vanilla Gorilla.

 

You use to be entertaining at least, now it is just redundant and sad.

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90% of those who vote for LHW are Shogun fanboys. If Shogun drops to MW' date=' then the MW div will become the highest pointer then.

So I don't think that the LHW is stronger than the HW[/quote']

 

 

look...i just came in to vote,but i couldn't hold my shelf not to post.not with this crap u have been writing bro...take easy and don't hurry to judje man ok?get over with shogun fans..machida has fans too,rashad has fans too.there are about 27 people who thinks that lhw is the strongest division..what about hw?how many voted?8?how the f**k do u know that they aren't brocks fans?think before u answer or better don't

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Shogun's record in UFC is a dismal 3-2 in the UFC and 2 of those 3 wins are against the ageing Lidell & Coleman' date=' [b']if he havent got lucky against Machida[/b], his record would have been 2-3

 

Lucky? He beat him twice, really... his record should be 4-1, the first fight was wrongly scored.

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I think the strongest divisions should be decided by how often the belt changes hands. this to m signifies the strenght of the competitors in the division.

 

1) LHW, No one has defended this belt more than once since Rampage.

 

2)HW, Although Brock has defended his title, i feel that this division wont remain dominated like some of the other lighter divisions.

 

3)LW, If you removed Penn, i think this division would be like LHW, just faster paced.

 

4)WW, George has cleaned out this division, and if he wasn't there, fitch would most likely have done the same this to the division.

 

5)MW, Anderson has defended the title more times here than anyone in any UFC division ever. While that says a lot about how good silva is, it also says a lot about the overall strenght of MW

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I think the strongest divisions should be decided by how often the belt changes hands. this to m signifies the strenght of the competitors in the division.

 

1) LHW' date=' No one has defended this belt more than once since Rampage.

 

2)HW, Although Brock has defended his title, i feel that this division wont remain dominated like some of the other lighter divisions.

 

3)LW, If you removed Penn, i think this division would be like LHW, just faster paced.

 

4)WW, George has cleaned out this division, and if he wasn't there, fitch would most likely have done the same this to the division.

 

5)MW, Anderson has defended the title more times here than anyone in any UFC division ever. While that says a lot about how good silva is, it also says a lot about the overall strenght of MW[/quote']

 

good points

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Well, the deepest division has been for a long time and probably will be for a long time the Light Heavyweight division, but in my opinion the most interesting divisions as of right now are the Heavyweight and Middleweight(which is incredible since it used to be the weakest).

 

For Heavyweight, we're reaching the end of finding out who was the best between Lesnar, dos Santos, Velasquez, Mir, and Carwin. Lesnar happened to be out for such a long time where a whole bunch of top contenders emerged that are exciting to watch, and it made it awesome.

 

For Middleweight, it's starting to become really competitive; Nate Marquardt, Rousimar Palhares, Alan Belcher, Demian Maia, and Yushin Okami all found themselves near the top, and then there's the new arrivals of Wanderlei Silva and especially Vitor Belfort. On top of that, the champion's considered to be one of the greatest fighters ever and Chael Sonnen dark horsed the hell out of the division.

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I would say WW' date=' its got a lot of names and a lot of talent.

I think the HW division isn't realy that good compared to other weight classes. It has about 15 good fighters in and out of the UFC, and thats about it, no real depth[/quote']

 

WW? lol You mean the Lay n Pray division? GSP, Kos, Fitch and Shields? Yawn....

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