Rumble170cHAMP Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 JON BONESSSSSSS JONES!!! face it fellow forum members. he might as well havew the belt around his waist and the title before his name. He is the best LHW in the world bar none. Troll me all you want because all I hear is the only reason Jones " cant" be a top 5 lhw or a champion is because hes too young. lol same stupid argument after every fight and every guy Bones faces is supposed to show the "composure and experience" to weather the storm and put the young up and comer into his place. If I hear another excuse like that Im gunna puke. He destroys everyone at their own specific game its sick. Throws around the janitor, elbows veras eye through the mat. his size , power, and skills are unbelievable.. give the man his credit and respect, idk how all of you haters can deny any of this the guy has done absolutely everything to prove he deserves it but shogun fanboys and all the others hate because they know when their fighters time to meet Bones comes , say goodnight because Bones is the best fighter in the world thank you and now ill get my extinguisher to put out the flames ill get for this one. oh and clay guida will eventually be LW champ just throwing that in there.lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimpygimpet Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 JON BONESSSSSSS JONES!!! face it fellow forum members. he might as well havew the belt around his waist and the title before his name. He is the best LHW in the world bar none. Troll me all you want because all I hear is the only reason Jones " cant" be a top 5 lhw or a champion is because hes too young. lol same stupid argument after every fight and every guy Bones faces is supposed to show the "composure and experience" to weather the storm and put the young up and comer into his place. If I hear another excuse like that Im gunna puke. He destroys everyone at their own specific game its sick. Throws around the janitor' date=' elbows veras eye through the mat. his size , power, and skills are unbelievable.. give the man his credit and respect, idk how all of you haters can deny any of this the guy has done absolutely everything to prove he deserves it but shogun fanboys and all the others hate because they know when their fighters time to meet Bones comes , say goodnight because Bones is the best fighter in the world thank you and now ill get my extinguisher to put out the flames ill get for this one. oh and clay guida will eventually be LW champ just throwing that in there.lol[/quote'] Alright, You'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForrestGriffinFan101 Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Jones wouldn't beat the following; Rampage, Rashad, Machida, and Anderson. /thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumble170cHAMP Posted August 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 we certainly will shogun and bones are on a crash course. I dont see Machida, Rampage, rashad, lil nog, or bader being able to handle either of these guys so its almost destiny ( one word lol not two diego) that these guys will fight for the title . looking forward to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimpygimpet Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Jones wouldn't beat the following; Rampage' date=' Rashad, Machida, Anderson, [b']Forrest, Thiago Silva, and Shogun.[/b] /thread! I fixed that for you. You've left some people out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimpygimpet Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 we certainly will shogun and bones are on a crash course. I dont see Machida' date=' Rampage, rashad, lil nog, or bader being able to handle either of these guys so its almost destiny ( one word lol not two diego) that these guys will fight for the title . looking forward to it[/quote'] You think Rumble will be the man to beat GSP. I can't take your MMA views seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumble170cHAMP Posted August 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 he might be but he should move to 185 this name is old obviously lol. I think Phil Davis beats the above mentioned fighters that Bones would lose to lol jp at least for the moment . Thiago Silva is one of my fav fioghters ever but Jones would demolish him . Easy takedown and ground n pound for the win. Anyone names forrest griffin fan i dont respect so you suck lol Bones would beat anyone in the division. I still get no reasons why bones would lose these fights. Hes young yes but what else. and youth and inexperience in the cage can lead you to the title ask brock or even your boy anderson , he didnt have many fights before he got his shot. he destroyed leben etc leading to franklin so has bones so whats the difference? i smell the fear bones is putting into you both lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSmith99 Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 You are dellusional and your logic is ridiculous its ok to think anthony johnson will be champion but not to be a fan of forrest lol and as for the OP well quite clearly no amount of rational logic can get you to hop off the bones hype train. Don't get me wrong i think the guy will have his shot at the title in the future but is he the best right now? Absolutely 100% NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumble170cHAMP Posted August 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 You are dellusional and your logic is ridiculous its ok to think anthony johnson will be champion but not to be a fan of forrest lol and as for the OP well quite clearly no amount of rational logic can get you to hop off the bones hype train. Don't get me wrong i think the guy will have his shot at the title in the future but is he the best right now? Absolutely 100% NO i never really liked forrest as a person for some reason but i respected his fighting until he cried and ran out of the cage in the silva fight never seen someone give up like that and just dont have the belief in him anymore. He has pillows for hands anyway he is the bisping of the LHW division but hes more likeable thats the only difference. Rumble has the potential in the future to be the best if works on a ground game its over his striking is already very good. And why should I hop off this hype train youve made up. Why isnt he the best then I just want to hear some reasons to counter what im saying but all i hear is im delusional lol. And age is not a reason to say someone isnt the best. so another reason bedies the overused lame excuse thats been floating around the forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForrestGriffinFan101 Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 he might be but he should move to 185 this name is old obviously lol. I think Phil Davis beats the above mentioned fighters that Bones would lose to lol jp at least for the moment . Thiago Silva is one of my fav fioghters ever but Jones would demolish him . Easy takedown and ground n pound for the win. Anyone names forrest griffin fan i dont respect so you suck lol Bones would beat anyone in the division. I still get no reasons why bones would lose these fights. Hes young yes but what else. and youth and inexperience in the cage can lead you to the title ask brock or even your boy anderson ' date=' he didnt have many fights before he got his shot. he destroyed leben etc leading to franklin so has bones so whats the difference? i smell the fear bones is putting into you both lol[/quote'] First off, both of us hate Anderson so he's not our boy. Second, Anderson was already a huge name and considered one of the best in the world when he came to the UFC and Bones was not. Your debut is different for different people. That's why Takanori Gomi's first fight in the UFC was against KenFlo's and Bones's debut was against Gusmao. Yes, I know he was a late replacement but you know what I mean. Machida is a better striker and has great TDD. Rampage is the same way. I'm a huge Bones fan but I can realize that he can't beat these top level guys yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSmith99 Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Ok he is no the no.1 LHW in the world because he hasn't even fought anybody in the top 10 to be the best you have to beat the best and jones is a long way from doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumble170cHAMP Posted August 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 First off' date=' both of us hate Anderson so he's not our boy. Second, Anderson was already a huge name and considered one of the best in the world when he came to the UFC and Bones was not. Your debut is different for different people. That's why Takanori Gomi's first fight in the UFC was against KenFlo's and Bones's debut was against Gusmao. Yes, I know he was a late replacement but you know what I mean. Machida is a better striker and has great TDD. Rampage is the same way. I'm a huge Bones fan but I can realize that he can't beat these top level guys yet.[/quote'] I heard that vera and the janitor have great TDD and great takedowns and veras ths superior striker and then Bones just owns them all at their own game. If he manhandled guys that have wealth of experience in grappling and takedowns, how could he not take down rampage as rashad would or machida?? the answer is he could and would and elbow holes in their heads lol. at least machida or shogun have some submission skills but rampage and rashad wouldnt stand a chance. lol i know silva had a big name already but im just focusing on the debut and on not before that or obviously that would factor in, but then again Brock Lesnar had a bigger name then silva with most fans going into his debut because of WWE and it took him what like 4 fights for the title versus bones however many he takes and silvas one fight lol so i guess that whole point just cancels out lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForrestGriffinFan101 Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 I heard that vera and the janitor have great TDD and great takedowns and veras ths superior striker and then Bones just owns them all at their own game. If he manhandled guys that have wealth of experience in grappling and takedowns' date=' how could he not take down rampage as rashad would or machida?? the answer is he could and would and elbow holes in their heads lol. at least machida or shogun have some submission skills but rampage and rashad wouldnt stand a chance. lol i know silva had a big name already but im just focusing on the debut and on not before that or obviously that would factor in, but then again Brock Lesnar had a bigger name then silva with most fans going into his debut because of WWE and it took him what like 4 fights for the title versus bones however many he takes and silvas one fight lol so i guess that whole point just cancels out lol[/quote'] Rashad has a better double leg than Bones and is the better wrestler. Bones did not beat Vera at his own game if he did that he would have beat him in striking. Rampage has great TDD and Rashad only took him down twice. Machida has some of the best TDD and elusiveness in MMA so there is no way Bones is winning that fight. Rashad has better boxing and great wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumble170cHAMP Posted August 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Rashad has a better double leg than Bones and is the better wrestler. Bones did not beat Vera at his own game if he did that he would have beat him in striking. Rampage has great TDD and Rashad only took him down twice. Machida has some of the best TDD and elusiveness in MMA so there is no way Bones is winning that fight. Rashad has better boxing and great wrestling. tdd and elusiveness dont win fights though. jones talent and unorthodox striking give everyone problems. you cant train to fight bones because no one can replicate his style or timing so saying Bones has NO way of winning any fight is just plain wrong. The only fighter who has zero shot at ever winning is forrest griffin we all know that lol. jp ( not really butr im not going to be a jerk lol ) rashad probably does have better boxing but that doesnt mean jones wont clip him with a kick,knee,elbow, or punch an KO him . or get a takedown because rashads double leg is better lol bones will just suplex him like bonnar lol ha either way bones is coming your top 5 lhws better be ready . also for the guy above your post, its not jones fault he hasnt fought a top 5 yet he doesnt make the fights so please read the convo before you add in as this is discussion upon things that can be controlled not what joe silva decides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyTown Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 You think Rumble will be the man to beat GSP. I can't take your MMA views seriously. ^^THIS Also, we really don't know how Bones will do against ANY of them. He has the potential to beat all of them, but that means nothing if he doesn't fight to his full potential. His next fight will be a top contender and then we will see how good he really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurilio Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Bones has the potential be to the LHW champion in the future. Will he be the LHW champ? Who knows. We don't know how he will do until we see him against top 5 competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DASTARK Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 everything rumble says about jones is false until proven otherwise so shut up rumble until we see him take on some one in top 10 if he fights machida and beats him i will believe it until then hush your mouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForrestGriffinFan101 Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 tdd and elusiveness dont win fights though. jones talent and unorthodox striking give everyone problems. you cant train to fight bones because no one can replicate his style or timing so saying Bones has NO way of winning any fight is just plain wrong. The only fighter who has zero shot at ever winning is forrest griffin we all know that lol. jp ( not really butr im not going to be a jerk lol ) rashad probably does have better boxing but that doesnt mean jones wont clip him with a kick' date='knee,elbow, or punch an KO him . or get a takedown because rashads double leg is better lol bones will just suplex him like bonnar lol ha either way bones is coming your top 5 lhws better be ready . also for the guy above your post, its not jones fault he hasnt fought a top 5 yet he doesnt make the fights so please read the convo before you add in as this is discussion upon things that can be controlled not what joe silva decides.[/quote'] If Jones couldn't get Machida down he would be so screwed. Unorthodox striking doesn't matter if you can't hit someone with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumble170cHAMP Posted August 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 everything rumble says about jones is false until proven otherwise so shut up rumble until we see him take on some one in top 10 if he fights machida and beats him i will believe it until then hush your mouth coming from someone who thinks machida and whoever anderson silve is? will go down as the greatest of all time that doesnt even register as an opinion to me lol . everything ive said is true. ive been talking about his past fights moron learn to read. i just dont see why people wanna derail the guy because hes basically been perfect in the ufc so far throughout every fight minus his dq garbage. no reason to think he cant and wont destroy anyone. i still have yet to hear one solid reason why he couldnt and wouldnt but ya thanks guys lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumble170cHAMP Posted August 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 and if rumble stays in WW he will be the man to defeat GSP if he develops any take down d. but regardless he should move up to 185 strictly for long term health reasons. so he wouldnt fight GSP like i said this name is old and if he moves up ill be happy to change to 185 champ lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurilio Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 and if rumble stays in WW he will be the man to defeat GSP if he develops any take down d. but regardless he should move up to 185 strictly for long term health reasons. so he wouldnt fight GSP like i said this name is old and if he moves up ill be happy to change to 185 champ lol So you were wrong in the past? What makes you think you can't be wrong about Jones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderProdigy Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 This thread is such a failure, Bones has beaten some B-level competetion and now he could champion, no there are still many that would beat him. and Clay Guida future LW champion hahahahaha in your dreams buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DASTARK Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 anderson silva is the middle weight champion who has set records jones is a guy who hit one guy with a elbow threw some fancy kicks and taken people down and machida someone with well rounded fighting enough said mr.rumble with bones and rumble as your number one and two favorite fighters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DASTARK Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 This thread is such a failure' date=' Bones has beaten some B-level competetion and now he could champion, no there are still many that would beat him. and Clay Guida future LW champion hahahahaha in your dreams buddy.[/quote'] this ^ enough said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nizmo270r Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Jones is the future LHW champ but he isn't in the top 5 yet Top 10 for sure If Jones can beat Bader (tough fight for both) then he deserves to fight either Rampage (can jones take a punch from page) Machida (how patient jones can be against Mr Elusive) Evans (won't happen) Tito (just to see him get KTFO) Franklin (when arm heals) Couture (would be epic) someday Anderson Silva before Silva retires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderProdigy Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 i'm really getting tired of this 'amazing striker' crap, Jones is very athletic and has great takedowns and wrestling, he couldn't hang with a lot of strikers at LHW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMARSA Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Jones is the future LHW champ but he isn't in the top 5 yetTop 10 for sure If Jones can beat Bader (tough fight for both) then he deserves to fight either Rampage (can jones take a punch from page) Machida (how patient jones can be against Mr Elusive) Evans (won't happen) Tito (just to see him get KTFO) Franklin (when arm heals) Couture (would be epic) someday Anderson Silva before Silva retires ^ I agree with this, except the Tito option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLane Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 JON BONESSSSSSS JONES!!! face it fellow forum members. he might as well havew the belt around his waist and the title before his name. He is the best LHW in the world bar none. Troll me all you want because all I hear is the only reason Jones " cant" be a top 5 lhw or a champion is because hes too young. lol same stupid argument after every fight and every guy Bones faces is supposed to show the "composure and experience" to weather the storm and put the young up and comer into his place. If I hear another excuse like that Im gunna puke. He destroys everyone at their own specific game its sick. Throws around the janitor' date=' elbows veras eye through the mat. his size , power, and skills are unbelievable.. give the man his credit and respect, idk how all of you haters can deny any of this the guy has done absolutely everything to prove he deserves it but shogun fanboys and all the others hate because they know when their fighters time to meet Bones comes , say goodnight because Bones is the best fighter in the world thank you and now ill get my extinguisher to put out the flames ill get for this one. oh and clay guida will eventually be LW champ just throwing that in there.lol[/quote'] YES but not for a couple years unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLane Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 This thread is such a failure' date=' Bones has beaten some B-level competetion and now he could champion, no there are still many that would beat him. and Clay Guida future LW champion hahahahaha in your dreams buddy.[/quote'] Jones can beat anybody at 205 mark my words by 2012 it will be Jones vs. Shogun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolomite5698 Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Rampage retires to act. Shogun retires due to his knees. Machida retires because his daddy said so. Anderson retires because he already beat everyone. 3-5 years pass...then Jon Jones is champ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinkleToesTommy Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Nope, never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderProdigy Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Jones can beat anybody at 205 mark my words by 2012 it will be Jones vs. Shogun i dont deny what he can be, i deny what he is currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDevil Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 i have real hard time to see him as LHW champ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLane Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 i dont deny what he can be' date=' i deny what he is currently.[/quote'] fair enough, all i know is he's never been rocked, taken down, out struck, out grappled, or lost a round, until i see any of that I'll continue to think each obstacle he's put up against he'll overcome. it's too bad Forrest lost his nerve i would have like to see that fight since he walks around a lil heavier then Jones oh well T. Silva or Franklin will be a fun fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderProdigy Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 fair enough' date=' all i know is he's never been rocked, taken down, out struck, out grappled, or lost a round, until i see any of that I'll continue to think each obstacle he's put up against he'll overcome. it's too bad Forrest lost his nerve i would have like to see that fight since he walks around a lil heavier then Jones oh well T. Silva or Franklin will be a fun fight[/quote'] i think he can beat Forrest or Franklin, i wanna see how he fairs against T.Silva and if he walks through him, then i'll open my eyes a bit more on what hes capable of, until then hes put 2 wrestlers on and kid who never lived up to his potential on their backs and pounded them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLane Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 i think he can beat Forrest or Franklin' date=' i wanna see how he fairs against T.Silva and if he walks through him, then i'll open my eyes a bit more on what hes capable of, until then hes put 2 wrestlers on and kid who never lived up to his potential on their backs and pounded them.[/quote'] i'm guessing Hamill and Vlad are the wrestlers and Vera is underachiever? i can live with that assessment UFC 123 Jon Jones vs. Thiago Silva if he beats Thiago then he fights Rampage vs. Machida winner for #1 Contender! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderProdigy Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 i'm guessing Hamill and Vlad are the wrestlers and Vera is underachiever? i can live with that assessment UFC 123 Jon Jones vs. Thiago Silva if he beats Thiago then he fights Rampage vs. Machida winner for #1 Contender! :cool: yes, wrestlers are no good off their back, and Vera would be the guy whos extremely talented he just doesn't like to show it in his fights. I want Jones vs. a legit black belt, doesn't look like hes too worried about his arm sometimes. I could agree with that, because even if Silva can't get it done, Rampage/Machida would both beat him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady_Champ Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Bones has the potential be to the LHW champion in the future. Will he be the LHW champ? Who knows. We don't know how he will do until we see him against top 5 competition. I agree with this^^^ It's easy to look good against Scrubs. The only non Scrub was Hammill. Its like When I play undisputed online against lower level guys I'm a beast! Against 50-80 I'm good but higher then that especially 100 Half the time I get tooled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLane Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 I agree with this^^^ It's easy to look good against Scrubs. The only non Scrub was Hammill. Its like When I play undisputed online against lower level guys I'm a beast! Against 50-80 I'm good but higher then that especially 100 Half the time I get tooled. Vera was no joke he took Couture to the brink of defeat, has beaten Mir, just inconsistent, Jones wanted Thiago Silva but Thiago said Jones wasn't on his level so he got Vlad instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLane Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 yes' date=' wrestlers are no good off their back, and Vera would be the guy whos extremely talented he just doesn't like to show it in his fights. I want Jones vs. a legit black belt, doesn't look like hes too worried about his arm sometimes. I could agree with that, because even if Silva can't get it done, Rampage/Machida would both beat him [/quote'] i see Machida winning and Jones steamrolling Thiago then Jones beating Machida via decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimpygimpet Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 I heard that vera and the janitor have great TDD and great takedowns and veras ths superior striker and then Bones just owns them all at their own game. If he manhandled guys that have wealth of experience in grappling and takedowns' date=' how could he not take down rampage as rashad would or machida?? the answer is he could and would and elbow holes in their heads lol. at least machida or shogun have some submission skills but rampage and rashad wouldnt stand a chance. lol i know silva had a big name already but im just focusing on the debut and on not before that or obviously that would factor in, but then again Brock Lesnar had a bigger name then silva with most fans going into his debut because of WWE and it took him what like 4 fights for the title versus bones however many he takes and silvas one fight lol so i guess that whole point just cancels out lol[/quote'] At their own game? Vladimir was going to stand with Bones but Bones took him down. And Bones took Vera down before Vera could kill him standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderProdigy Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 i see Machida winning and Jones steamrolling Thiago then Jones beating Machida via decision Machida is a terrible match-up for Bones, his TDD is enough to stuff Bones takedowns, and on the feet Machida is several several levels above him. Same with Page basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLane Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Machida is a terrible match-up for Bones' date=' his TDD is enough to stuff Bones takedowns, and on the feet Machida is several several levels above him. Same with Page basically.[/quote'] the problem is Jones is nasty in the clinch and would throw Machida, not necessarily keep him down but i think take him down multiple times, the big factor in all of Jones fights is his reach, nearly 85" he'll be able to dictate the pace whether standing or in someones guard imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLane Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 At their own game? Vladimir was going to stand with Bones but Bones took him down. And Bones took Vera down before Vera could kill him standing. Vlad and Vera were considered to be tough test for Jones Vera with both wrestling and muay thai and Vlad was not supposed to be manhandle by Jones, Jones showed what he was made of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderProdigy Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 the problem is Jones is nasty in the clinch and would throw Machida' date=' not necessarily keep him down but i think take him down multiple times, the big factor in all of Jones fights is his reach, nearly 85" he'll be able to dictate the pace whether standing or in someones guard imo[/quote'] his reach is his biggest asset in the stand-up game, but i think a striker with good TDD would smash him (currently), also he can mess people up from the guard but i think lots of fighters could snatch up that arm he hangs out there, Vera was close to doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimpygimpet Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Vlad and Vera were considered to be tough test for Jones Vera with both wrestling and muay thai and Vlad was not supposed to be manhandle by Jones' date=' Jones showed what he was made of[/quote'] In a wrestling match Vlad would kill Jones. Vlad just figured he'd stand with him. Vera would kill Jones standing up. Problem is his wrestling is that great and can't stop a takedown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLane Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 In a wrestling match Vlad would kill Jones. Vlad just figured he'd stand with him. Vera would kill Jones standing up. Problem is his wrestling is that great and can't stop a takedown. bro Jones took Vlad down, if he was such a good wrestler why couldn't he A. stop it and B. get up with his supposed superior hips and Vera would get picked apart by Jones reach as most will, except Shogun imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLane Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 his reach is his biggest asset in the stand-up game' date=' but i think a striker with good TDD would smash him (currently), also he can mess people up from the guard but i think lots of fighters could snatch up that arm he hangs out there, Vera was close to doing it.[/quote'] the only reason Jones left the arm out is because he knew Vera and Vlad weren't going to be able to do anything with it that early, as far as tdd goes, if he can throw Hamill around i think he could takedown anybody at 205 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNOOB Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Jones' best victory was Brandon Vera, so that makes him the best in the world???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenColbert Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 At their own game? Vladimir was going to stand with Bones but Bones took him down. And Bones took Vera down before Vera could kill him standing. it doesnt matter if they could beat him on the feet if he can take them down at will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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