fedorrule Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 let me tell u that that fight between the two biggest roiders , brock and shane was a complete fix. remember the post fight interviews. shane clearly said brock was out during the fight during one of his punches, and we all saw in the fight that brock did absolutely nothing to intelligently defend thos punch, which means the ref should have stopped the fight but did not . do u know why. it because i believe the ufc paid the ref and made sure that he favored brock in the fight. remember what dana had to say in the press. he said ref made the right call. and what about brock , he said he was happy that ref did not stop the fight. hmm suspect something. what about the wwe stars in ring side had to say. they thank the ref that he did not stop the fight,they all knew the fight should have be stopped but luckily for them shane gassed out and made brock recover from the smashing he got. the fight should have been stopped but the ref didnt . In any other match the fight would be called off as soon as the fighter is struggling to defend himself. well in this fight ufc made sure that the ref help brock to win the fight. what a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machidaNo1p4p Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 wow and i tought i was hard to understand! please troll somewhere else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToiletSeat Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Penn vs Sanchez was a worse beating, brock defended himself very well in that fight, most punches hit his forearms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkReflection Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 blah blah...your name betrays you. Cheers -DR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoToGuy Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 let me tell u that that fight between the two biggest roiders ' date=' brock and shane was a complete fix. remember the post fight interviews. shane clearly said brock was out during the fight during one of his punches, and we all saw in the fight that brock did absolutely nothing to intelligently defend thos punch, which means the ref should have stopped the fight but did not . do u know why. it because i believe the ufc paid the ref and made sure that he favored brock in the fight. remember what dana had to say in the press. he said ref made the right call. and what about brock , he said he was happy that ref did not stop the fight. hmm suspect something. what about the wwe stars in ring side had to say. they thank the ref that he did not stop the fight,they all knew the fight should have be stopped but luckily for them shane gassed out and made brock recover from the smashing he got. the fight should have been stopped but the ref didnt . In any other match the fight would be called off as soon as the fighter is struggling to defend himself. well in this fight ufc made sure that the ref help brock to win the fight. what a shame.[/quote'] Wow, this crap again. That's old news and bad excuses. Lesnar got his **** beat but he won his fight end of story. Live with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLane Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Penn vs Sanchez was a worse beating' date=' brock defended himself very well in that fight, most punches hit his forearms[/quote'] ^this and please mods just close the thread already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcaneKnight Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 This guys right. Fight was a total fix. Go back and watch the fight. Just before they came out for round 2, you see them look at eachother. Shane Carwin winks, and Brock Lesnar smiles. That was basically Shane Carwin saying "Alright, you can submit me now, we have them fooled." Brock Lesnar instantly lit up with a huge smile because he knew Shane was finally giving him the go-ahead to take home the title. You think if all Shane Carwin was going to make was 40k that night, he would've let Brock win that fight? Brock gave Shane a lot of financial incentive to allow him to keep that belt. Where if Brock didn't pay him off, no way does Shane let Brock leave that arena with that belt. I mean honestly.. Who the hell winks in the middle of a championship fight, unless that fighter is trying to signal something to his opponent? That wink obviously was a secret sign, that's why Brock lit up with a huge smile because he knew it was time. That's why he instantly went in for the takedown, and submitted him shortly thereafter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito_Brigante Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 this guys right. Fight was a total fix. go back and watch the fight. Just before they came out for round 2' date=' you see them look at eachother. Shane carwin winks, and brock lesnar smiles. That was basically shane carwin saying "alright, you can submit me now, we have them fooled." [/b'] brock lesnar instantly lit up with a huge smile because he knew shane was finally giving him the go-ahead to take home the title. You think if all shane carwin was going to make was 40k that night, he would've let brock win that fight? Brock gave shane a lot of financial incentive to allow him to keep that belt. Where if brock didn't pay him off, no way does shane let brock leave that arena with that belt. I mean honestly.. Who the hell winks in the middle of a championship fight, unless that fighter is trying to signal something to his opponent? That wink obviously was a secret sign, that's why brock lit up with a huge smile because he knew it was time. That's why he instantly went in for the takedown, and submitted him shortly thereafter. lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToiletSeat Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 This guys right. Fight was a total fix. Go back and watch the fight. Just before they came out for round 2' date=' you see them look at eachother. Shane Carwin winks, and Brock Lesnar smiles. That was basically Shane Carwin saying "Alright, you can submit me now, we have them fooled." Brock Lesnar instantly lit up with a huge smile because he knew Shane was finally giving him the go-ahead to take home the title. You think if all Shane Carwin was going to make was 40k that night, he would've let Brock win that fight? Brock gave Shane a lot of financial incentive to allow him to keep that belt. Where if Brock didn't pay him off, no way does Shane let Brock leave that arena with that belt. I mean honestly.. Who the hell winks in the middle of a championship fight, unless that fighter is trying to signal something to his opponent? That wink obviously was a secret sign, that's why Brock lit up with a huge smile because he knew it was time. That's why he instantly went in for the takedown, and submitted him shortly thereafter.[/quote'] Lol, i love conspiricy theorys I'm guessing this is sarcasm but it's hard over the internet lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labyrinthic Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Are you the same guy who said fedor was a massive roid abuser?? This forum is going down hill fast .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 honestly, i have NO idea weather that fight was fixed or not, OR IF it should have been stopped or not. I WOULD HAVE LIKED THEM TO STOP IT, but its to late to Bltch now, what bothers me though is the possibility of the ufc ACTUALLY FIXING FIGHTS. IF THERE IS PROOF THAT THEY FIXED ONE. i would stop watching. its on the same level as the WWE at that point if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiccoli Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 This guys right. Fight was a total fix. Go back and watch the fight. Just before they came out for round 2' date=' you see them look at eachother. Shane Carwin winks, and Brock Lesnar smiles. That was basically Shane Carwin saying "Alright, you can submit me now, we have them fooled." Brock Lesnar instantly lit up with a huge smile because he knew Shane was finally giving him the go-ahead to take home the title. You think if all Shane Carwin was going to make was 40k that night, he would've let Brock win that fight? Brock gave Shane a lot of financial incentive to allow him to keep that belt. Where if Brock didn't pay him off, no way does Shane let Brock leave that arena with that belt. I mean honestly.. Who the hell winks in the middle of a championship fight, unless that fighter is trying to signal something to his opponent? That wink obviously was a secret sign, that's why Brock lit up with a huge smile because he knew it was time. That's why he instantly went in for the takedown, and submitted him shortly thereafter.[/quote'] LMAO! Classic! Nice work there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLane Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 honestly' date=' i have NO idea weather that fight was fixed or not, OR IF it should have been stopped or not. I WOULD HAVE LIKED THEM TO STOP IT, but its to late to Bltch now, what bothers me though is the possibility of the ufc ACTUALLY FIXING FIGHTS. IF THERE IS PROOF THAT THEY FIXED ONE. i would stop watching. its on the same level as the WWE at that point if you ask me.[/quote'] watch the fight again, Brock kept moving, just cause it was Carwin hitting him a lot of fans ASSUMED that should be it, fight over, but obviously Brock was still very with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenColbert Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 god youre an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leiting Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 No the fight shouldn't have been stopped. The right call was made. (I am a Carwin fan.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piercer138 Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 This guys right. Fight was a total fix. Go back and watch the fight. Just before they came out for round 2' date=' you see them look at eachother. Shane Carwin winks, and Brock Lesnar smiles. That was basically Shane Carwin saying "Alright, you can submit me now, we have them fooled." Brock Lesnar instantly lit up with a huge smile because he knew Shane was finally giving him the go-ahead to take home the title. You think if all Shane Carwin was going to make was 40k that night, he would've let Brock win that fight? Brock gave Shane a lot of financial incentive to allow him to keep that belt. Where if Brock didn't pay him off, no way does Shane let Brock leave that arena with that belt. I mean honestly.. Who the hell winks in the middle of a championship fight, unless that fighter is trying to signal something to his opponent? That wink obviously was a secret sign, that's why Brock lit up with a huge smile because he knew it was time. That's why he instantly went in for the takedown, and submitted him shortly thereafter.[/quote'] as always a good comment from A.K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phkit Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 terrible thread. brock got caught with the uppercut, backed off, dropped down, and then he only got hit with about 1 outta every 6 punches. most of them didn't connect well or hit his arms. however the elbow carwin threw when he was running out of gas was a very good shot. josh rosenthal did his job and you could clearly hear him telling brock that he better defend or he was gonna call it and brock defended to the best of his ability at the time. as far as the wink and smile goes that was just sportsmanship at it's best. 2 big bulls colliding and brock letting shane know that "hey man, you got me good but i'm still standing." they touched gloves and the fight ensued, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDevil Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdoubleu Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Why are there so many dummies on message boards? Does anyone even know what words like "proof" and "fact" mean anymore? Stop putting the word proof in your thread title if all your thread is really about is what you "think" about something. There's nothing in your entire post that proves anything so stop being misleading to get people to read your garbage. I swear there has been a "proof" thread about every topic imaginable and none of them ever prove a damn thing except our school system sucks and a lot of people need to invest in dictionaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_Moss Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 let me tell u that that fight between the two biggest roiders ' date=' brock and shane was a complete fix. remember the post fight interviews. shane clearly said brock was out during the fight during one of his punches, and we all saw in the fight that brock did absolutely nothing to intelligently defend thos punch, which means the ref should have stopped the fight but did not . do u know why. it because i believe the ufc paid the ref and made sure that he favored brock in the fight. remember what dana had to say in the press. he said ref made the right call. and what about brock , he said he was happy that ref did not stop the fight. hmm suspect something. what about the wwe stars in ring side had to say. they thank the ref that he did not stop the fight,they all knew the fight should have be stopped but luckily for them shane gassed out and made brock recover from the smashing he got. the fight should have been stopped but the ref didnt . In any other match the fight would be called off as soon as the fighter is struggling to defend himself. well in this fight ufc made sure that the ref help brock to win the fight. what a shame.[/quote'] Sorry about Shanes defeat. You'll get over it one day. Maybe after Brock defeats him again. Shane is pretty good though. He just needs not to put all his eggs in one basket. Brock was never out and was absorbing the shots very well as Shane was tiring. In Championship fights, the refs usually let fights go on a little longer to ensure that the fighter can not go on. In a non Championship fight, the ref is usually quicker to stop the fight. But, some refs are different than others. I thought the ref in this case made the right call. I'm sure Shane will have another chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadSquire Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Arcane Knight, you win this time around... I got nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claudiorebelo Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 irrefutable proof indeed, wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmckay1406051840 Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 This guys right. Fight was a total fix. Go back and watch the fight. Just before they came out for round 2' date=' you see them look at eachother. Shane Carwin winks, and Brock Lesnar smiles. That was basically Shane Carwin saying "Alright, you can submit me now, we have them fooled." Brock Lesnar instantly lit up with a huge smile because he knew Shane was finally giving him the go-ahead to take home the title. You think if all Shane Carwin was going to make was 40k that night, he would've let Brock win that fight? Brock gave Shane a lot of financial incentive to allow him to keep that belt. Where if Brock didn't pay him off, no way does Shane let Brock leave that arena with that belt. I mean honestly.. Who the hell winks in the middle of a championship fight, unless that fighter is trying to signal something to his opponent? That wink obviously was a secret sign, that's why Brock lit up with a huge smile because he knew it was time. That's why he instantly went in for the takedown, and submitted him shortly thereafter.[/quote'] haha Gotta love AK's posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jimbob2 Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 let me tell u that that fight between the two biggest roiders ' date=' brock and shane was a complete fix. remember the post fight interviews. shane clearly said brock was out during the fight during one of his punches, and we all saw in the fight that brock did absolutely nothing to intelligently defend thos punch, which means the ref should have stopped the fight but did not . do u know why. it because i believe the ufc paid the ref and made sure that he favored brock in the fight. remember what dana had to say in the press. he said ref made the right call. and what about brock , he said he was happy that ref did not stop the fight. hmm suspect something. what about the wwe stars in ring side had to say. they thank the ref that he did not stop the fight,they all knew the fight should have be stopped but luckily for them shane gassed out and made brock recover from the smashing he got. the fight should have been stopped but the ref didnt . In any other match the fight would be called off as soon as the fighter is struggling to defend himself. well in this fight ufc made sure that the ref help brock to win the fight. what a shame.[/quote'] Your absolutey right! YOU DID IT !!! NOW we all know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiousmat Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 is that what you call a proof? wow. what a shame. Watch Carwin vs Mir you'll see how a fighter who doesn't defend himself is supposed to look for teh fight to be stopped. think about it. Brock came back before the end of the round, was able to stand up and to pin Carwin against the cage, and even take him down. That in itself is a proof that the fight shouldn't have been stopped. Stopping a fight in which a fighter is still capable of coming back and defending himself is called an early stoppage. Watch Carwin vs Mir again. Tell me if you think Mir coulda been able to come back from this, should Carwin have gassed? Answer is no. If there had been no ref Mir would be dead right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiousmat Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 This guys right. Fight was a total fix. Go back and watch the fight. Just before they came out for round 2' date=' you see them look at eachother. Shane Carwin winks, and Brock Lesnar smiles. That was basically Shane Carwin saying "Alright, you can submit me now, we have them fooled." Brock Lesnar instantly lit up with a huge smile because he knew Shane was finally giving him the go-ahead to take home the title. You think if all Shane Carwin was going to make was 40k that night, he would've let Brock win that fight? Brock gave Shane a lot of financial incentive to allow him to keep that belt. Where if Brock didn't pay him off, no way does Shane let Brock leave that arena with that belt. I mean honestly.. Who the hell winks in the middle of a championship fight, unless that fighter is trying to signal something to his opponent? That wink obviously was a secret sign, that's why Brock lit up with a huge smile because he knew it was time. That's why he instantly went in for the takedown, and submitted him shortly thereafter.[/quote'] he was winking to the camera not to brock you dumb, dumb conspiracy theorist. Man people hate on Brock so much that they even make up some dumb conspiracy theories when he wins. If you think the fights are fixed why are you watching the UFC at all. Go watch the WWE at least you'll see more chix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkie Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 This fedorrule tard and AK are a match made in heaven. Can you imagine how dumb the kid is gonna be? Sure the fight was fixed. Nevermind the fact that like 90% of Carwin's GnP was to Brock's shoulders and forearms, or that Brock was constantly moving, trying to improve his position. Both of which mean the fight should have been stopped, right? And yeah, most other NON-TITLE fights would have been stopped. Thing is though, this was a TITLE fight! As for the wink, it happens a lot. And I'm really surprise that AK didn't think of it as Carwin was making a pass at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KansasCityKing Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 This fedorrule tard and AK are a match made in heaven. Can you imagine how dumb the kid is gonna be? Sure the fight was fixed. Nevermind the fact that like 90% of Carwin's GnP was to Brock's shoulders and forearms' date=' or that Brock was constantly moving, trying to improve his position. Both of which mean the fight should have been stopped, right? And yeah, most other [b']NON-TITLE[/b] fights would have been stopped. Thing is though, this was a TITLE fight! As for the wink, it happens a lot. And I'm really surprise that AK didn't think of it as Carwin was making a pass at him. WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA You cannot compare AK's threads of right trolling to this weak attempt at wrong trolling. AK is entertaining. This isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkie Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOAYou cannot compare AK's threads of right trolling to this weak attempt at wrong trolling. AK is entertaining. This isn't. I'm new to this site and AK doesn't come across as entertaining to me. Every single thing I've seen from him is either completely wrong, or opinion trying be passed off as fact, or just utterly retarded. Like I said, I'm new so he hasn't had the time go grow on me like everybody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimatefightingchamp Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 The fight shouldn't be stopped. Look at Machida vs Shogun 2, Shogun had to show mercy and say 'hey man, wt.f, stop this fight already, he's out'; Look at Couture vs Nogueira; Look at Struve's last fight. It was a great fight between the 2 best HWs right now and it didn't let us down. And AK, I love him, his humour is pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opie295 Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 let me tell u that that fight between the two biggest roiders ' date=' brock and shane was a complete fix. remember the post fight interviews. shane clearly said brock was out during the fight during one of his punches, and we all saw in the fight that brock did absolutely nothing to intelligently defend thos punch, which means the ref should have stopped the fight but did not . do u know why. it because i believe the ufc paid the ref and made sure that he favored brock in the fight. remember what dana had to say in the press. he said ref made the right call. and what about brock , he said he was happy that ref did not stop the fight. hmm suspect something. what about the wwe stars in ring side had to say. they thank the ref that he did not stop the fight,they all knew the fight should have be stopped but luckily for them shane gassed out and made brock recover from the smashing he got. the fight should have been stopped but the ref didnt . In any other match the fight would be called off as soon as the fighter is struggling to defend himself. well in this fight ufc made sure that the ref help brock to win the fight. what a shame.[/quote'] u said u had proof. this is crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedorrule Posted August 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 just look at carwin post fight interview where he said brock was out termporarily but the ref did nothinhg, just imagine if it was shane getting pounded, the ref will defiently stop the fight. poor ufc had to fix this fight like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Can Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 how about this guys the fight was not fixed , BUT if that was lesnar doing what Carwin did to him it would have been stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedorrule Posted August 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 yeah i agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMARSA Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 irrefutable proof indeed' date=' wow![/quote'] ^ This... how about this guys the fight was not fixed ' date=' BUT if that was lesnar doing what Carwin did to him it would have been stopped.[/quote'] ^ Maybe, but imo champion deserves the benefit of the doubt. It could've been stopped but it would've been a mistake cause clearly Brock was still in the fight. Championship fights are BY FAR (and obviously) the most important fights and early stoppages would be very controversial and lame to watch. A beating isn't a reason to stop a fight, a KO is, Brock was not out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJBJJ Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 This guys right. Fight was a total fix. Go back and watch the fight. Just before they came out for round 2' date=' you see them look at eachother. Shane Carwin winks, and Brock Lesnar smiles. That was basically Shane Carwin saying "Alright, you can submit me now, we have them fooled." Brock Lesnar instantly lit up with a huge smile because he knew Shane was finally giving him the go-ahead to take home the title. You think if all Shane Carwin was going to make was 40k that night, he would've let Brock win that fight? Brock gave Shane a lot of financial incentive to allow him to keep that belt. Where if Brock didn't pay him off, no way does Shane let Brock leave that arena with that belt. I mean honestly.. Who the hell winks in the middle of a championship fight, unless that fighter is trying to signal something to his opponent? That wink obviously was a secret sign, that's why Brock lit up with a huge smile because he knew it was time. That's why he instantly went in for the takedown, and submitted him shortly thereafter.[/quote'] 100% truth. I cant doubt you since you called shogun beating machida in the rematch BEFORE they had their first fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechniqueSeeker Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 For those that believe this fight was fixed, were you watching this fight through a peep hole called your belly button because your head is so far up your own butt. That you failed to see the whole truth. The fight was not fixed, Brock won, deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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