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I think whoever thinks Rampage is going to win.Just really likes Rampage,and not Machida.The thing is if you look at Rashad/Rampage fight.Rashad has become elusive,and was mixing it up but mostly using his wrestling.Rashad picked up this talent,after getting knocked out by Machida.Machida is far more elusive than Rashad.So if we see the old Rampage.Then he has a chance,but I'm guessing he isn't training as hard as Machida is.Rampage even said he doesn't train that hard for fights.He's still in the same UK camp.Just came to the states with them or something.So Machida will outwork Rampage.Tire him out.Then can even take him down I bet at least once or twice in the later rounds.All he needs to do is hit him on the chin enough times,and Rampage will get rocked eventually.Technique will come into play against Rampages staggering boxing stance.Machida will work Rampages lead leg,and just circle Rampage and own him in the exchanges.That's my prediction.Rampage will win by a lucky hook.

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Ok machida will not push for a takedown like rashad did' date='and thats a big mistake machida will get ko'ed. sig bet??[/quote']

 

lyoto can and will get the takedowns, he will take him down and get straight back to score points, will also pick and run as always, quinton is to 1 dimensional, scrappy boxing that looks and hopes 4 the 1 blow ko, lyoto is a bad matchup 4 quinton. machida ud...... and as 4 the sig bet..... im good 4 it....

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lyoto can and will get the takedowns' date=' he will take him down and get straight back to score points, will also pick and run as always, quinton is to 1 dimensional, scrappy boxing that looks and hopes 4 the 1 blow ko, lyoto is a bad matchup 4 quinton. machida ud...... and as 4 the sig bet..... im good 4 it....[/quote']

 

You my friend are dumb. Rampage has some of the best TDD in the game, it's njust that Rashad is a world class wrestler probaly one of the top 5 wrestlers in the World. Machida doesn't have strong takedowns. Okay so he took Shogun down 2 times. Woopdy Doooo.He won't take Rampage down and he will get KTFO. and dent packin and will never get a the title again.

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You my friend are dumb. Rampage has some of the best TDD in the game' date=' it's njust that Rashad is a world class wrestler probaly one of the top 5 wrestlers in the World. Machida doesn't have strong takedowns. Okay so he took Shogun down 2 times. Woopdy Doooo.He won't take Rampage down and he will get KTFO. and dent packin and will never get a the title again.[/quote']

 

my friend, rampage aint the same fighter from his pride days where he HAD top notch tdd, hes jaded and aint the same fighter, lyoto can and will take him whenever he chooses.....

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You my friend are dumb. Rampage has some of the best TDD in the game' date=' it's njust that Rashad is a world class wrestler probaly one of the top 5 wrestlers in the World. Machida doesn't have strong takedowns. Okay so he took Shogun down 2 times. Woopdy Doooo.He won't take Rampage down and he will get KTFO. and dent packin and will never get a the title again.[/quote']

 

He won't need to take down Rampage.Rampage will just stagger around in the middle of the octagon.Machida will just circle him and destroy him.Then once Rampage can't take it anymore and tries to go and explode on Machida out of frustration.Machida can just work around him and take him down.It'll be funny to watch to be honest.It'll really show how elusive and how technical Machida really is.Unless Rampage has crisp boxing,and can actually land a shot.Which is doubtful.Even if he does he's not a better fighter.He has lost focus,and has a crappy camp.I hope Rampage trains harder this time,and has the discipline to come into camp at a good weight,and work hard.Cause he'll need to.To beat Machida.

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He won't need to take down Rampage.Rampage will just stagger around in the middle of the octagon.Machida will just circle him and destroy him.Then once Rampage can't take it anymore and tries to go and explode on Machida out of frustration.Machida can just work around him and take him down.It'll be funny to watch to be honest.It'll really show how elusive and how technical Machida really is.Unless Rampage has crisp boxing' date='and can actually land a shot.Which is doubtful.Even if he does he's not a better fighter.He has lost focus,and has a crappy camp.I hope Rampage trains harder this time,and has the discipline to come into camp at a good weight,and work hard.Cause he'll need to.To beat Machida.[/quote']

 

well said, very well said..... i hope lyoto picks quinton apart.....

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my friend' date=' rampage aint the same fighter from his pride days where he HAD top notch tdd, hes jaded and aint the same fighter, lyoto can and will take him whenever he chooses.....[/quote']

 

My God I thought all you Machida fanboys were gone after 113, but I guess you need Rampage to knock your boy out first. Lets be real here Shogun who doesn't have half of Rampages strength knocked your boy out and I expect Rampage to do the same only it will take a shorter amount of time since Machida won't take Rampage down and stall like he did in the Shogun fight.

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Sure, Rampage has KO power, but the thing is his technique is so sloppy and slow that by the time he winds up and swings his haymaker, Lyoto will have already stepped in, kicked him once, punched him twice, and step out... Lyoto is too fast, too smart, and too technical... the Machida that got KO'ed by Shogun was the one that abandoned the style and gameplan that made him a champ... now that he's been served his first loss, he's more than learned his lesson and is going to come back the same way GSP came back...

 

And then when Rashad lays on Shogun for a decision win (hoping otherwise, but still a big possibility), Machida is going to be right there to throw Rashad across the cage and serve the same massive beatdown he gave him before...

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Lyoto has more elusiveness but not very heavy hands. Rampage, not very elusive but can knock you out by flicking his finger if he lands clean. Im going with rampage after seeing the shogun fight. It seems like what shogun did will play well for Rampage if he does the same thing. If he doesnt, lyoto by decision because I dont see him knocking rampage out.

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My God I thought all you Machida fanboys were gone after 113' date=' but I guess you need Rampage to knock your boy out first. Lets be real here Shogun who doesn't have half of Rampages strength knocked your boy out and I expect Rampage to do the same only it will take a shorter amount of time since Machida won't take Rampage down and stall like he did in the Shogun fight.[/quote']

 

machida fanboy homey? plz..... well it seemed pretty clear to me the shogun that doesnt have half of rampages strength soccer kick the stripes off him, so invalid point..... and as 4 quinton finishing lyoto quicker than rua did...... i highly doubt it...... quinton wont be able to get near lyoto...... he's finished.....

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Sure' date=' Rampage has KO power, but the thing is his technique is so sloppy and slow that by the time he winds up and swings his haymaker, Lyoto will have already stepped in, kicked him once, punched him twice, and step out... Lyoto is too fast, too smart, and too technical... the Machida that got KO'ed by Shogun was the one that abandoned the style and gameplan that made him a champ... now that he's been served his first loss, he's more than learned his lesson and is going to come back the same way GSP came back...

 

And then when Rashad lays on Shogun for a decision win (hoping otherwise, but still a big possibility), Machida is going to be right there to throw Rashad across the cage and serve the same massive beatdown he gave him before...[/quote']

 

You're obviously a Machida fanboy. First of all there's no way in hell Machida would ever get close enough to Rampage to throw ANY kicks or punches unless he's pressing for a quick takedown. Rampage would put a knot on his eye worse than Shogun did if he tried to stand with him. Machida is going to be looking to throw Rampage off with counter punches to land takedowns and fight on the ground. I still don't see him getting Rampage down. Rampage will land a big shot and jump on him for the TKO.

 

 

"And then when Rashad lays on Shogun for a decision win (hoping otherwise, but still a big possibility), Machida is going to be right there to throw Rashad across the cage and serve the same massive beatdown he gave him before"

 

haha If you think Rashad is going to "lay" on Shogun for a decision...what makes you think he wouldn't "lay" on Machida for a decision as well? Rashad screwed up by not "laying" on him in the first fight. He didn't even attempt to wrestle Machida the first time. He lost a stand up fight due to Machida's excellence in counter punching. It would be a totally different fight if they were to fight again and like you say...Rashad would "lay" on him. I feel Shogun vs Rampage for the LHW title lurking.

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idc if im a machida fan boy i like how the guy fights okay number 1 someone said rashad would beat machida in a rematch you must be high you saw what happened the first time and as for shogun having half rampage power if you look at the punch that hit lyoto it was well behind the ear if you get hit there your going down big time and lyoto vs rampage will be a war i give this one the ninja(lyoto) vs the warrior (rampage) giving it to the ninja for the skills he has

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You're obviously a Machida fanboy. First of all there's no way in hell Machida would ever get close enough to Rampage to throw ANY kicks or punches unless he's pressing for a quick takedown. Rampage would put a knot on his eye worse than Shogun did if he tried to stand with him. Machida is going to be looking to throw Rampage off with counter punches to land takedowns and fight on the ground. I still don't see him getting Rampage down. Rampage will land a big shot and jump on him for the TKO.

 

 

"And then when Rashad lays on Shogun for a decision win (hoping otherwise' date=' but still a big possibility), Machida is going to be right there to throw Rashad across the cage and serve the same massive beatdown he gave him before"

 

haha If you think Rashad is going to "lay" on Shogun for a decision...what makes you think he wouldn't "lay" on Machida for a decision as well? Rashad screwed up by not "laying" on him in the first fight. He didn't even attempt to wrestle Machida the first time. He lost a stand up fight due to Machida's excellence in counter punching. It would be a totally different fight if they were to fight again and like you say...Rashad would "lay" on him. I feel Shogun vs Rampage for the LHW title lurking.[/quote']

 

lol... yes, I am a Machida fanboy... you say that like it's a bad thing :P I mean, you're obviously a Rampage fanboy... I wouldn't hold that against you...

 

Still doesn't change the fact that Machida is too fast and too skilled for Rampage to handle... like I said before, Rampage has power, but he's too slow and and swings too wide... Machida will have a two punch or a punch/kick combo in before Rampage even gets his hand half way to Machida... the fact that Machida is one of the hardest guys to connect a punch on only makes Rampage's job harder, and also gives Machida more avenues to counterstrike... Shogun, for what it's worth, is a lot quicker and a lot more skilled than Rampage, and Rampage doesn't have the leg/body kicks Shogun had to slow Machida down... saying Rampage could KO Machida because Shogun could doesn't add up per se... don't get me wrong though, Rampage has a puncher's chance with his KO power, but that's all it is... a puncher's chance... I see Machida picking Rampage apart on the stand-up game...

 

As for Rashad, Lyoto's elusiveness, mixed with his Judo and Sumo experience, normally neutralizes wrestlers... if it were that easy for Rashad to take Lyoto down, I'm sure he would have done it... Shogun however doesn't have the same takedown ability or takedown defense Lyoto has... in Shogun/Lyoto 2, Lyoto was able to take Shogun down with ease, and Rashad very likely saw that and is going to exploit it like hell when they fight... I can admit that Shogun got up when Lyoto took him down, and maybe that'll play a factor, but I'd think that if Shogun were to win it'd probably be a BJJ win... also, seeing that everyone blames Shogun's loss to Griffin on his knee, and his knee problems are starting to re-surface again, Rashad will have a very strong advantage...

 

Don't get me wrong... Machida vs Shogun 3 for the title would be ideal... just got a feeling though that Rashad is going to take it...

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idc if im a machida fan boy i like how the guy fights okay number 1 someone said rashad would beat machida in a rematch you must be high you saw what happened the first time and as for shogun having half rampage power if you look at the punch that hit lyoto it was well behind the ear if you get hit there your going down big time and lyoto vs rampage will be a war i give this one the ninja(lyoto) vs the warrior (rampage) giving it to the ninja for the skills he has

 

Also worth noting that Shogun's punch to Lyoto standing up was a knockdown punch... it was the 3-4 punches from the mount that did Lyoto in... its not like Lyoto was one-punched or anything... I could bet the toughest chin in the UFC wouldn't be able to take those ground punches...

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Also worth noting that Shogun's punch to Lyoto standing up was a knockdown punch... it was the 3-4 punches from the mount that did Lyoto in... its not like Lyoto was one-punched or anything... I could bet the toughest chin in the UFC wouldn't be able to take those ground punches...

 

anyone woulda been kod from that ground and pound people just like to blast it because there like omg first machida loss and he got knocked out so what everyone gets ko'd sometime in there career

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lol... yes' date=' I am a Machida fanboy... you say that like it's a bad thing :P I mean, you're obviously a Rampage fanboy... I wouldn't hold that against you...

 

Still doesn't change the fact that Machida is too fast and too skilled for Rampage to handle... like I said before, Rampage has power, but he's too slow and and swings too wide... Machida will have a two punch or a punch/kick combo in before Rampage even gets his hand half way to Machida... the fact that Machida is one of the hardest guys to connect a punch on only makes Rampage's job harder, and also gives Machida more avenues to counterstrike... Shogun, for what it's worth, is a lot quicker and a lot more skilled than Rampage, and Rampage doesn't have the leg/body kicks Shogun had to slow Machida down... saying Rampage could KO Machida because Shogun could doesn't add up per se... don't get me wrong though, Rampage has a puncher's chance with his KO power, but that's all it is... a puncher's chance... I see Machida picking Rampage apart on the stand-up game...

 

As for Rashad, Lyoto's elusiveness, mixed with his Judo and Sumo experience, normally neutralizes wrestlers... if it were that easy for Rashad to take Lyoto down, I'm sure he would have done it... Shogun however doesn't have the same takedown ability or takedown defense Lyoto has... in Shogun/Lyoto 2, Lyoto was able to take Shogun down with ease, and Rashad very likely saw that and is going to exploit it like hell when they fight... I can admit that Shogun got up when Lyoto took him down, and maybe that'll play a factor, but I'd think that if Shogun were to win it'd probably be a BJJ win... also, seeing that everyone blames Shogun's loss to Griffin on his knee, and his knee problems are starting to re-surface again, Rashad will have a very strong advantage...

 

Don't get me wrong... Machida vs Shogun 3 for the title would be ideal... just got a feeling though that Rashad is going to take it...[/quote']

 

Rampage fanboy? Wrong... I lost alot of interest in Rampage after his fight with Jardine. It may have sounded like I was being a fanboy but honestly I was just speaking realistically. YOU,on the other hand,are a Machida fanboy and are biased at everything you say about him. Not that there's anything wrong with being a fan of the guy...I mean he has always been a respectful fighter but realistically he's just average. He is above average in some aspects of the game but not enough to say he's an above average fighter.

 

I guarantee you Machida gets rocked while trying to counter punch and loses via TKO. Rampage will set him up with combos and pressure him to counter punch and will eventually find an opening and land a clean shot that will put him down long enough for Rampage to jump on and punch him out for the win.

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Rampage fanboy? Wrong... I lost alot of interest in Rampage after his fight with Jardine. It may have sounded like I was being a fanboy but honestly I was just speaking realistically. YOU' date='on the other hand,are a Machida fanboy and are biased at everything you say about him. Not that there's anything wrong with being a fan of the guy...I mean he has always been a respectful fighter but realistically he's just average. He is above average in some aspects of the game but not enough to say he's an above average fighter.

 

I guarantee you Machida gets rocked while trying to counter punch and loses via TKO. Rampage will set him up with combos and pressure him to counter punch and will eventually find an opening and land a clean shot that will put him down long enough for Rampage to jump on and punch him out for the win.[/quote']

 

You do realize Rampage hasn't used his wrestling in how long?He'll just stagger around hoping for that one hit.What happened in the Rashad fight?It'll play that exact same roll.If Rampage keeps standing.Machida won't even have to worry about wrestling like Rashad did.Cause he doesn't need to use it.Rampage won't that much of a threat.Just his hands.Unless we see the old Rampage.Which is highly unlikely.I'm not biased,and I like both fighters.I'm just talking realistically.If you say Machida is above aver in some aspects of the game.THen you have to look at Rampage.What does Rampage have to offer other than that one hit KO/TKO?Just his stand up boxing.That's all he'll want to do.So you're basically saying that Rampage is a worst fighter than Machida.Makes no sense.They are both good fighters.I think Machida has more focus,and determination in the fighting realm than Rampage nowadays.Sad but true.

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You do realize Rampage hasn't used his wrestling in how long?He'll just stagger around hoping for that one hit.What happened in the Rashad fight?It'll play that exact same roll.If Rampage keeps standing.Machida won't even have to worry about wrestling like Rashad did.Cause he doesn't need to use it.Rampage won't that much of a threat.Just his hands.Unless we see the old Rampage.Which is highly unlikely.I'm not biased' date='and I like both fighters.I'm just talking realistically.If you say Machida is above aver in some aspects of the game.THen you have to look at Rampage.What does Rampage have to offer other than that one hit KO/TKO?Just his stand up boxing.That's all he'll want to do.So you're basically saying that Rampage is a worst fighter than Machida.Makes no sense.They are both good fighters.I think Machida has more focus,and determination in the fighting realm than Rampage nowadays.Sad but true.[/quote']

 

Dude...the chances of Machida finishing this fight are slim to none. He could very well pull off a decision but that'd be the only way he's winning this fight. IF he can get it to the ground then maybe he could finish but we both know he's not going to get Rampage down unless he can use his counter punching to catch Rampage off guard long enough to shoot for and land a successful takedown. Otherwise we probably won't be getting to see any of his BJJ.

 

Oh and you're right...Rampage really doesn't have alot to offer besides strong stand up and takedown defense... but neither did Chuck Liddell when he put Randy Couture to sleep the 2nd and 3rd time... and I'm sure you'd agree that Couture is 10 times the fighter Liddell will ever be. The same goes for Machida/Rampage. Machida may be 10 times the fighter..but Rampage is still favorite to win because of his KO power and strong TDD. I just can't see Machida being able to knock him out and I certainly can't see him getting it to the ground. MAYBE if he could kick his legs from under him he could get him down but that's only if Rampage doesn't check them.

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Dude...the chances of Machida finishing this fight are slim to none. He could very well pull off a decision but that'd be the only way he's winning this fight. IF he can get it to the ground then maybe he could finish but we both know he's not going to get Rampage down unless he can use his counter punching to catch Rampage off guard long enough to shoot for and land a successful takedown. Otherwise we probably won't be getting to see any of his BJJ.

 

Oh and you're right...Rampage really doesn't have alot to offer besides strong stand up and takedown defense... but neither did Chuck Liddell when he put Randy Couture to sleep the 2nd and 3rd time... and I'm sure you'd agree that Couture is 10 times the fighter Liddell will ever be. The same goes for Machida/Rampage. Machida may be 10 times the fighter..but Rampage is still favorite to win because of his KO power and strong TDD. I just can't see Machida being able to knock him out and I certainly can't see him getting it to the ground. MAYBE if he could kick his legs from under him he could get him down but that's only if Rampage doesn't check them.

 

did you just say quinton will be favourite? lyoto may not possess the power quinton does but plz, quinton still wont check kicks and will lose ud 2 lyoto..... cant wait 4 the odds.....

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I'm a monstrous Machida fan, but this fight is honestly a toss-up.

 

With Rampage, he can put ANYONE out if he connects. His head is also made out of something between titanium and whatever the hell Ironman's suit is made out of. If Machida can pull this one out, it'll most likely be by decision. He's not really known for his power, but his speed and evasiveness SHOULD be able to prevail.

 

I say 60%-40% in favor of Machida.

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Dude...the chances of Machida finishing this fight are slim to none. He could very well pull off a decision but that'd be the only way he's winning this fight. IF he can get it to the ground then maybe he could finish but we both know he's not going to get Rampage down unless he can use his counter punching to catch Rampage off guard long enough to shoot for and land a successful takedown. Otherwise we probably won't be getting to see any of his BJJ.

 

Oh and you're right...Rampage really doesn't have alot to offer besides strong stand up and takedown defense... but neither did Chuck Liddell when he put Randy Couture to sleep the 2nd and 3rd time... and I'm sure you'd agree that Couture is 10 times the fighter Liddell will ever be. The same goes for Machida/Rampage. Machida may be 10 times the fighter..but Rampage is still favorite to win because of his KO power and strong TDD. I just can't see Machida being able to knock him out and I certainly can't see him getting it to the ground. MAYBE if he could kick his legs from under him he could get him down but that's only if Rampage doesn't check them.

 

If Machida goes back to his old ways,and just counters.Instead of trying to be come forward like he did with Shogun he'll definitely be too fast for Rampage.Rampage will come forward and Machida will just circle him,and frustrate him.That's all I see happening in this fight for some reason.Saying a fighter can't knockout someone is kind of unrealistic.Anything can happen,and especially if Machida is punching him from every angle.Rampages leg is going to be swollen,and he's going to just keep coming forward to Machida.That's Machidas bread and butter.Luring his opponents to him.The chances of Machida winning are far greater than Rampages chances.IMO.It would be nice if Machida learned to mix up with coming forward aggressive,and just countering.Also if he worked on his ground game a lot.I'm not cancelling Rampage out of the picture at all.I'm just favoring Machida for this fight.I think he has a better chance.

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If Machida goes back to his old ways' date='and just counters.Instead of trying to be come forward like he did with Shogun he'll definitely be too fast for Rampage.Rampage will come forward and Machida will just circle him,and frustrate him.That's all I see happening in this fight for some reason.Saying a fighter can't knockout someone is kind of unrealistic.Anything can happen,and especially if Machida is punching him from every angle.Rampages leg is going to be swollen,and he's going to just keep coming forward to Machida.That's Machidas bread and butter.Luring his opponents to him.The chances of Machida winning are far greater than Rampages chances.IMO.It would be nice if Machida learned to mix up with coming forward aggressive,and just countering.Also if he worked on his ground game a lot.I'm not cancelling Rampage out of the picture at all.I'm just favoring Machida for this fight.I think he has a better chance.[/quote']

 

We'll have to just wait and see... Machida is a good fighter and deserves alot of respect but his chin will be the cause of his defeat in this fight.

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We'll have to just wait and see... Machida is a good fighter and deserves alot of respect but his chin will be the cause of his defeat in this fight.

 

I'd sig bet,but I'm not a sucker for sig bets.I never make them.I'll just remind you after the fight is over,and we'll talk about the whole fight.I'm curious how many fights Rampage still has on his contract,and how long he wants to keep fighting.With his acting career taking up some of his time.

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everyone has an opinion which they use to excrete words onto the forum and expect other people to look at their words and be impressed somehow.

 

if you get it you get it.

 

if you dont you dont.

 

I am too lazy to dumb it down.

 

 

that being said.

machida VS shogun 3

look how big it is.

a bit smelly.

I win.

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I'm a monstrous Machida fan' date=' but this fight is honestly a toss-up.

 

With Rampage, he can put ANYONE out if he connects. His head is also made out of something between titanium and whatever the hell Ironman's suit is made out of. If Machida can pull this one out, it'll most likely be by decision. He's not really known for his power, but his speed and evasiveness SHOULD be able to prevail.

 

I say 60%-40% in favor of Machida.[/quote']

 

^ This is pretty much what I think about this fight. Machida is quicker and more elusive, he'll be moving in and out with speed, landing his kicks and punches, probably mostly as counters. Rampage has the power to end anyone, so he's always gonna have a real chance against anyone. But he looked slow against Rashad, and Rashad looked slow against Machida, MMA math yes, but the point is Lyoto is way quicker than Rampage. How can so many write off the former champ after his first loss lol... crazy... I see Machida v Shogun 3 in the not-to-distant future...

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