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including boxing' date=' muay thai and all the classical martial arts what do you think is the best in the stand up?[/quote']

 

muay thai and kickboxing

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So far in the UFC the best striking stand up martial art has been a combination of boxing (as

 

evidenced primarily by JDS, secondly by Roy Nelson, and

 

Muay Thai, as evidenced in no particular order by A.Silva, Crocop, Pat Barry)

 

 

 

In Strikeforce the best striking standup art has been boxing, as evidenced by Nick Diaz,

 

Tae Kwon Do's spinning back side kick, as evidenced by Cung Le

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1. Muay Thai

2. Kickboxing/Karate... when I say Karate, I'm thinking of GSP, Machida or Cung Le

3. Karate/Kickboxing

4. Boxing, I'd like to put it lower but without breaking down Karate in each discipline, no other MMA striking style is coming to mind.

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A little off topic, but can I stop and ask what you guys think of Tai Chi?

 

I'm writing a novel where one of the characters, a young intellectual, has studied and can defend himself. I'm considering Tai Chi.

 

Are any of you guys familiar with Tai Chi, and if so, do you have any thoughts or comments about it?

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There is no clear winner here. It all depends on the talent of the fighter and especially striking is something that you can't really learn at the gym. Some people have that natural ability (handspeed, timing, power, balance) and some just don't.

 

Come the 28th we will see the difference between a naturally gifted striker and someone that took some boxing lessons on the side :)

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A little off topic' date=' but can I stop and ask what you guys think of Tai Chi?

 

I'm writing a novel where one of the characters, a young intellectual, has studied and can defend himself. I'm considering Tai Chi.

 

Are any of you guys familiar with Tai Chi, and if so, do you have any thoughts or comments about it?[/quote']

 

LMFAO tai chi aint even a martial art, its like some sort of morning exercise. Tai Chi is like the crappiest "fighting" style you can acquire.

 

I would go with

1. Muay Thai

2. Kick Boxing

3. Boxing

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LMFAO tai chi aint even a martial art' date=' its like some sort of morning exercise. Tai Chi is like the crappiest "fighting" style you can acquire.[/quote']Perfect. As much as anything else, that's the reason I'm associating it with intellectualism. But I'm not actually all that familiar with it (more than the poster I've quoted, though!).

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For mma Muay Thai is the best. This thread made me realize I need to check out for martial arts competitions because other than K-1 or mma I don't really get to see too many fighting styles in action.

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LMFAO tai chi aint even a martial art' date=' its like some sort of morning exercise. Tai Chi is like the crappiest "fighting" style you can acquire.

 

I would go with

1. Muay Thai

2. Kick Boxing

3. Boxing[/quote']

 

actually Tai Chi can be very dangerous when mastered.I seen lots of training videos from one individual.I can send you the link to him when I find him again.If you don't think it's dangerous you are nuts.That is the main reason most styles aren't meshed in with the UFC.Especially if they are too dangerous.In fact a Tai Chi vs Karate style was put to the test on one video.The Tai Chi won with flying colors.Just so you know.

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Meh. MT is probably better than boxing. A lot of the things you learn in both sports is useless in a real fight, generally, but at least MT will teach you to use your knees and elbows more. Most real fights go to the ground, anyway. I think you'd be better off just being training wrestling and takedown/control techniques. In real life, there isn't some BS referee that stands over you saying "you gots ta do sumtin or I stands you up". Wrestling takedown + headbutt to the bridge of the nose has won me countless fights with guys near twice my size.

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I'd honestly go with Mauy Thai.Only cause a lot of people find it very hard to defend,and it's very effective.You can really control the body,and land lots of knees anywhere.Leaving the opponent guessing.I really like that style.Even though a lot could argue differently with each style.

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Muay Thai for LHW and down.

 

But with the big boys I would have to go with boxing just because of the power they can put out.

 

In other words Muay allows you to get the most hits in, Boxing puts people to sleep..

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MT in the cage for sure.

 

In the street likely a system that includes strikes to eyes/neck/groin etc.. I assume ninjitsu focuses on a lot of stuff like that that's banned in sports environment (such as eye/groin strikes and small joint manipulation) but don't have any clue about how effective its practitioners would be in a real fight..

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I trained in Taekwondo from the time I was 12 until I was about 18.

 

Whoever said Taekwondo, does not know what they are talking about.

 

After two weeks of training Muy Thai at my gym I had the very disturbing and somewhat dissapointing realization that Taekwondo was a knife to Muy Thai's gun.

 

Is Taekwondo useless? No.

 

Is it on Muy Thai's level in any way shape or form. Not even close.

 

That was hard for me to admit at first becuase I trained Taekwondo for about six years and then found out that at best it was only a good exercise to stay in shape and flexible.

 

I can say that Taekwondo gave me the agility and flexibility I needed to make my Muy Thai kicks much more devestating. But thats about all I can give it credit for.

 

Muy Thai is by far the best stand up martial art I have come across.

 

I run across some guys in my gym who obviously prefer to straight box and dont care much about kicks at all, and its those guys you always catch with the head kick after throwing two leg kicks. They fall for it again and again and again.

 

Boxing is good, but Muy Thai is far better.

 

Think about it like this. If you can get within punching range, yes, boxing is devestating. But you get too far out (kicking range) or too close in (clinch range) and you limit your tool set very quickly.

 

Muy Thai gives you weapons for all three ranges. Kicking, punching, and clinch. (Boxing has some clinch, but knees and elbows in the clinch by far dominate dirty boxing in the clinch.)

 

Of course, some boxers who are extremely skilled will be able to dominate some Muy Thai fighters that are only moderately skilled ect...

 

It has to do with the talent of the fighters on many levels. But, I would speculate that if you could put two "evenly skilled" fighters, a boxer, and a Muy Thai fighter, up against one another the Muy Thai fighter would come out victorious with room to spare. Muy Thai simply has many many many more tools to work with than boxing.

 

Boxing is more of a "sport" in my opinion, where as Muy Thai is more of a "fighting style."

 

Well, this is my opinion based on my experience. I could be wrong.

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Muay Thai. It uses all elements of striking (knees, elbows included).

 

The kicks are trown with full power so can take out your opponent asap.

 

TKD has great kicks but it's more focus about scoring points than to cripple your opponent.

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The major downside to Kicks is you leave yourself very open to takedowns.

 

But then, the traditional boxing stance has the same problem, if you adapt your stance to compensate for this, you lose a lot of the punches power.

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