Striker_Kid Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Ok Randy Couture vs. James Toney is this Saturday, the more i think about this fight, the more i think about Toney winning, i think Nogueira is an amazing fighter, he is very good but i feel that now that he is out of his prime, his hands arent very heavy. He dropped Randy multiple times in their fight and i think Toney has hands that are more heavy then Nogueira. If this goes to the ground then i deffinitly have Randy but something just tells me if it stays standing up we might be surprised. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinkleToesTommy Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Ok Randy Couture vs. James Toney is this Saturday' date=' the more i think about this fight, the more i think about Toney winning, i think Nogueira is an amazing fighter, he is very good but i feel that now that he is out of his prime, his hands arent very heavy. He dropped Randy multiple times in their fight and i think Toney has hands that are more heavy then Nogueira. If this goes to the ground then i deffinitly have Randy but something just tells me if it stays standing up we might be surprised. Thoughts?[/quote'] Im scared too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibberish Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Ok Randy Couture vs. James Toney is this Saturday' date=' the more i think about this fight, the more i think about Toney winning, i think Nogueira is an amazing fighter, he is very good but i feel that now that he is out of his prime, his hands arent very heavy. He dropped Randy multiple times in their fight and i think Toney has hands that are more heavy then Nogueira. If this goes to the ground then i deffinitly have Randy but something just tells me if it stays standing up we might be surprised. Thoughts?[/quote'] Im scared too. little kids make me laugh. i'm scared. hahahahha oh no mr. toney please don't punch randy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinkleToesTommy Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 little kids make me laugh. i'm scared. hahahahha oh no mr. toney please don't punch randy. I have a feeling Randy is gonna submit him or TKO him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarwinDemoMan66 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Toney going to put his lights out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coreyflipp Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 The James Toney Train will de-rail this Saturday. Believe That. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinkleToesTommy Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 The James Toney Train will de-rail this Saturday. Believe That. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendohenderson Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 if they stand up randy is ****ed seriously ****ed he will knock him out cold fat he is a extreamly talented boxer anyone who is goin into this fight thinking couture can beat him on the feet is stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba_Pilks Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Randy's going to clinch and wear Toney down, his punches will be rendered useless by the 2:05 mark of the first round. He's really out of shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinkleToesTommy Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Randy's going to clinch and wear Toney down' date=' his punches will be rendered useless by the 2:05 mark of the first round. He's really out of shape.[/quote'] Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guessue24 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Ok Randy Couture vs. James Toney is this Saturday' date=' the more i think about this fight, the more i think about Toney winning, i think Nogueira is an amazing fighter, he is very good but i feel that now that he is out of his prime, his hands arent very heavy. He dropped Randy multiple times in their fight and i think Toney has hands that are more heavy then Nogueira. If this goes to the ground then i deffinitly have Randy but something just tells me if it stays standing up we might be surprised. Thoughts?[/quote'] yeah me too http://forums.ufc.production.sparkart.net/showthread.php?t=51982 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MABFanForLife Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Randy knows he has to get this fight to the ground immediately. He is perfectly aware of Toney's power. He himself has said that if he doesn't get the fight to the ground quick that he will be in trouble. So I'm not worried. I expect Randy will get the takedown within the first 30 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coreyflipp Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Randy knows he has to get this fight to the ground immediately. He is perfectly aware of Toney's power. He himself has said that if he doesn't get the fight to the ground quick that he will be in trouble. So I'm not worried. I expect Randy will get the takedown within the first 30 seconds. This. Randy is no dummie. Once it goes to the mat Toney will be like a fish out of water. Toney's milk expires Aug 28. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobercuban Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 I'm good with either outcome .. as I'm not a Couture fan (yeh I'm THAT guy). Randy does always seem to bring a good gameplan however ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMCMMA Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Randy's going to clinch and wear Toney down' date=' his punches will be rendered useless by the 2:05 mark of the first round. He's really out of shape.[/quote'] Please let Randy get in range to try and hug him please let Randy do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MABFanForLife Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Please let Randy get in range to try and hug him please let Randy do it. Randy won't. He's not going to push Toney against the cage. He's gonna pick him up, slam him on his back and make him his ***** for most of the first round before ending via TKO or submission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOTMF Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 The more I think about it I don't care if Randy loses. Randy is past his prime and quite old, so what if Toney beats him, try pairing up an MMA and boxing fighter in their primes and see what happens, this would be a more true test of which one can dominate more. I still think Randy should win this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MABFanForLife Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 The more I think about it I don't care if Randy loses. Randy is past his prime and quite old' date=' so what if Toney beats him, try pairing up an MMA and boxing fighter in their primes and see what happens, this would be a more true test of which one can dominate more. I still think Randy should win this one.[/quote'] Randy will. And my whole problem with Toney is his attitude. He's only doing this so that he can go and say that boxing is harder than MMA. He's not interested in trying MMA for a career like Lesnar did. He just wants to brag about how much harder it is to avoid being a punching bag versus avoiding getting a limb broken or choked to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOTMF Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Randy will. And my whole problem with Toney is his attitude. He's only doing this so that he can go and say that boxing is harder than MMA. He's not interested in trying MMA for a career like Lesnar did. He just wants to brag about how much harder it is to avoid being a punching bag versus avoiding getting a limb broken or choked to death. You're right, it's most just hype, these guys know how to sell a PPV and make money and brag, but I hope it comes back to haunt him, I really disklike the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MABFanForLife Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 You're right' date=' it's most just hype, these guys know how to sell a PPV and make money and brag, but I hope it comes back to haunt him, I really disklike the guy.[/quote'] Yeah. Imagine what Toney will feel like when one of these "supposed legends" defeats a dude with his head so far up his ****. Toney will never want anything to do with MMA after this fight, period. He won't even want to talk about it. This fight will be the one that haunts him for the rest of his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmicjewzombie Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Toney is going to put the lights out on dana's puppet! Blee dat!! Randy couture hey princess gun gitchu!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticKJ Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 This. Randy is no dummie. Once it goes to the mat Toney will be like a fish out of water. Toney's milk expires Aug 28. Toney's milk lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew1211 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Ok Randy Couture vs. James Toney is this Saturday' date=' the more i think about this fight, the more i think about Toney winning, i think Nogueira is an amazing fighter, he is very good but i feel that now that he is out of his prime, his hands arent very heavy. He dropped Randy multiple times in their fight and i think Toney has hands that are more heavy then Nogueira. If this goes to the ground then i deffinitly have Randy but something just tells me if it stays standing up we might be surprised. Thoughts?[/quote'] Im nervous, because if randy loses mma is going to get bashed and people will think boxing is superior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBottery Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Meh, Randy isn't going to try to stand with Toney to prove something. He is immediatly going to take him down and either pound him out of choke him out. Either one works for me. BLEE DAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff83 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Hopefully James Toney will be the first ever to be released from the UFC with a professional record of 0-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bear413 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 It's bothered me since day 1 that Randy is the guy the UFC chose to fight Toney. A win over Couture would boost his career further than it ever should be. It's also disrespectful to other people in the UFC that want to fight Couture, yet this clown gets to fight him in his first fight. I hate gimmick fights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker_Kid Posted August 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 The only reason i dont want Randy to lose is so people dont start thinking boxing is better than MMA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew1211 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 The only reason i dont want Randy to lose is so people dont start thinking boxing is better than MMA. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MABFanForLife Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 The only reason i dont want Randy to lose is so people dont start thinking boxing is better than MMA. Well, to be honest, you would have extremely strong personal tastes for stand-up fighting to think boxing is better than MMA. There's absolutely nothing wrong with a high caliber boxer entering into MMA. Wrestlers do it all the time. But is wrestling better than MMA? All depends on one's personal tastes. Anyone who thinks MMA is better than boxing won't change that opinion if Randy loses, much like those who think boxing is better than MMA won't change their opinion if Toney loses. This fight won't change many people's thoughts between the two. It could be good for MMA if Randy wins and enough boxing fans are watching and realize what we all know in that there's really something spectacular about MMA that boxing doesn't seem to posess anymore. This fight, regardless of the outcome, won't convince too many people that boxing or MMA is the superior craft. It all comes down to personal tastes and to the top competitors of both sports, I salute you because no one can deny that regardless of which one a person enters, to become a top fighter requires a ton of heart, skill, and determination. The assets of champions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QT3_141406053019 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 I thought it was interesting what WBA boxing Heavyweight champion David Haye said about this fight: ?Six months of training isn?t going to be enough. As a UFC fan, I know two or three years wouldn?t be enough. How many times has Toney sprawled in his life? 500? How many leg kicks has he taken in his life? 300? How many Kimura attempts has he defended? 140? Even if he?s done double that amount, he wouldn?t have nearly the experience needed to win a UFC fight.? Haye also stresses that this is not just a criticism of Toney specifically, but rather that he is speaking from his own experiences. In fact it was only a couple of years that Haye, who?s father was a Karate teacher, talked about making the transition when his boxing career comes to an end. ?I know from training in MMA myself that the wrestling aspect ruins your punching power,? he reveals. ?After a minute of grappling, your arms, back and shoulders fill with blood and even if you then find space to throw punches, your power is suddenly crap. ?And I hit a lot harder and I?m so much faster than James, and I couldn?t land a punch on fighters when all they wanted to do was take me down to the ground. James is a much more static fighter than I am, and is going to get thrown on his back immediately by Randy. I admire Toney?s spirit and boxing skills. But he?s delusional here.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoToGuy Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 I thought it was interesting what WBA boxing Heavyweight champion David Haye said about this fight: ?Six months of training isn?t going to be enough. As a UFC fan' date=' I know two or three years wouldn?t be enough. How many times has Toney sprawled in his life? 500? How many leg kicks has he taken in his life? 300? How many Kimura attempts has he defended? 140? Even if he?s done double that amount, he wouldn?t have nearly the experience needed to win a UFC fight.? Haye also stresses that this is not just a criticism of Toney specifically, but rather that he is speaking from his own experiences. In fact it was only a couple of years that Haye, who?s father was a Karate teacher, talked about making the transition when his boxing career comes to an end. ?I know from training in MMA myself that the wrestling aspect ruins your punching power,? he reveals. ?After a minute of grappling, your arms, back and shoulders fill with blood and even if you then find space to throw punches, your power is suddenly crap. ?And I hit a lot harder and I?m so much faster than James, and I couldn?t land a punch on fighters when all they wanted to do was take me down to the ground. James is a much more static fighter than I am, and is going to get thrown on his back immediately by Randy. I admire Toney?s spirit and boxing skills. But he?s delusional here.?[/quote'] Owned by one of his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff83 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 I thought it was interesting what WBA boxing Heavyweight champion David Haye said about this fight: ?Six months of training isn?t going to be enough. As a UFC fan' date=' I know two or three years wouldn?t be enough. How many times has Toney sprawled in his life? 500? How many leg kicks has he taken in his life? 300? How many Kimura attempts has he defended? 140? Even if he?s done double that amount, he wouldn?t have nearly the experience needed to win a UFC fight.? Haye also stresses that this is not just a criticism of Toney specifically, but rather that he is speaking from his own experiences. In fact it was only a couple of years that Haye, who?s father was a Karate teacher, talked about making the transition when his boxing career comes to an end. ?I know from training in MMA myself that the wrestling aspect ruins your punching power,? he reveals. ?After a minute of grappling, your arms, back and shoulders fill with blood and even if you then find space to throw punches, your power is suddenly crap. ?And I hit a lot harder and I?m so much faster than James, and I couldn?t land a punch on fighters when all they wanted to do was take me down to the ground. James is a much more static fighter than I am, and is going to get thrown on his back immediately by Randy. I admire Toney?s spirit and boxing skills. But he?s delusional here.?[/quote'] Amazing educated comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nando_G Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 I was giving toney a decent chance against couture, but after talking to many people who know a thing or two about boxing, they all agree that toney doesn't stand a chance. They say the atmosphere & techniques are so different. Toney won't be comfortable after the first kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Ok Randy Couture vs. James Toney is this Saturday' date=' the more i think about this fight, the more i think about Toney winning, i think Nogueira is an amazing fighter, he is very good but i feel that now that he is out of his prime, his hands arent very heavy. He dropped Randy multiple times in their fight and i think Toney has hands that are more heavy then Nogueira. If this goes to the ground then i deffinitly have Randy but something just tells me if it stays standing up we might be surprised. Thoughts?[/quote'] Randy has never been hit like Toney is going to hit him. He has zero room for error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nando_G Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Randy has never been hit like Toney is going to hit him. He has zero room for error. You make it sound like he's fighting king kong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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