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Shady_Champ

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Before I begin, I would like to apollogize to everyone that did not want to see a Sonnen/Silva rematch. It's my fault. A couple weeks ago I posted about Anderson's elaborate Scheme to get a fight with GSP. Dana obviously saw my thread. After seeing the thread he realized that I was right. So instead of setting up GSP/Silva he decided to give Sonnen a rematch just to double check. Sadly for everyone who wanted to see GSP/Silva it's not gonna happen. Because In the rematch Sonnen's gonna get wrecked. There's no reason for Silva to allow Sonnen to do what he did last time. Silva knows Dana will never let the little Canadian poster boy fight Silva. So I'm calling it now, Silva 1st round KO! Discuss.

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Exactly, thats the biggest reason I dont like this rematch. The other is I hate listening to Sonnen. Theres a line between hyping and trash talking, and just being ****in annoying. Hes like a clown trying to come up with all these analogies and stuff to sound as clever as possible. Give it a break

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I don't see why people think Silva is gonna develop world class wrestling in a few months before the next fight. I'm not saying Sonnen will win the fight, but to assume that Silva is gonna develop impeccable takedown defence and destroy Sonnen in such a short period of time is just naive.

 

Guys like Alves, Marquardt, Hardy, Daley and Okami have all gone into fights against elite wrestlers recently and the outcomes have all been the same. A one sided UD loss. Is that because they're stupid and didn't realise that the other guy was gonna try to take them down? No. It's because it takes YEARS to develop the strength, technique and mentality needed to counter the wrestling of guys like GSP, Fitch, Sonnen, Koscheck, etc.

 

Silva is no different. To say that he's gonna go into the rematch and block all of Chael's takedowns and KO him in the first round is delusional. His technique will have improved, sure. He might get a couple of sweeps and get a few sprawls, but unless he can KO Chael before the first shot, he WILL be on his back again in the rematch, and he's probably gonna need to finish Sonnen again in order to get the win.

 

You can't go from zero to hero in terms of wrestling skill in such a short space of time.

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Remember that time that Silva absolutely destroyed Sonnen in their first match like everyone said was going to happen?

 

Oh wait' date=' it didn't happen.[/quote']

 

Clever! I bet you spent all last week thinking of that. And now, finally, the opportunity to use that clever bit of retarded humor presented itself. Now you can finally die knowing that you are completely worthless.

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I don't see why people think Silva is gonna develop world class wrestling in a few months before the next fight. I'm not saying Sonnen will win the fight' date=' but to assume that Silva is gonna develop impeccable takedown defence and destroy Sonnen in such a short period of time is just naive.

 

Guys like Alves, Marquardt, Hardy, Daley and Okami have all gone into fights against elite wrestlers recently and the outcomes have all been the same. A one sided UD loss. Is that because they're stupid and didn't realise that the other guy was gonna try to take them down? No. It's because it takes YEARS to develop the strength, technique and mentality needed to counter the wrestling of guys like GSP, Fitch, Sonnen, Koscheck, etc.

 

Silva is no different. To say that he's gonna go into the rematch and block all of Chael's takedowns and KO him in the first round is delusional. His technique will have improved, sure. He might get a couple of sweeps and get a few sprawls, but unless he can KO Chael before the first shot, he WILL be on his back again in the rematch, and he's probably gonna need to finish Sonnen again in order to get the win.

 

You can't go from zero to hero in terms of wrestling skill in such a short space of time.[/quote']

 

For starters, nobody is saying Silva is gonna become some kind of Wrestling hero. I agree, it's just not possible in such a short time. The thing is though, the only reason Sonnen made it out of the first was because Silva completely overlooked his hands. Remember the first couple times Sonnen tried to close the distance to Wrestle in the very first minute or so of round 1? Silva simply pushed him away while clearing his hips. Then..., he got caught because he never gave Fail's hands a second thought. You're an idiot to think that will happen again. It's a safe bet that, had Silva not been caught with that lucky punch in the first, Sonnen would have had takedown after takedown stuffed, all the while catching kicks and elbows, causing him to quit in the 1st. If you seriously think that Silva is gonna dismiss Sonnen's stand up again, allowing him to be caught again, then you're an idiot. Silva will stuff Fail's takedowns and he will be looking for his hands. And there is not a chance in hell of Sonnen winning any kind of stand up with Silva, when Silva is ready for it.

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I don't see why people think Silva is gonna develop world class wrestling in a few months before the next fight. I'm not saying Sonnen will win the fight' date=' but to assume that Silva is gonna develop impeccable takedown defence and destroy Sonnen in such a short period of time is just naive.

 

Guys like Alves, Marquardt, Hardy, Daley and Okami have all gone into fights against elite wrestlers recently and the outcomes have all been the same. A one sided UD loss. Is that because they're stupid and didn't realise that the other guy was gonna try to take them down? No. It's because it takes YEARS to develop the strength, technique and mentality needed to counter the wrestling of guys like GSP, Fitch, Sonnen, Koscheck, etc.

 

Silva is no different. To say that he's gonna go into the rematch and block all of Chael's takedowns and KO him in the first round is delusional. His technique will have improved, sure. He might get a couple of sweeps and get a few sprawls, but unless he can KO Chael before the first shot, he WILL be on his back again in the rematch, and he's probably gonna need to finish Sonnen again in order to get the win.

 

You can't go from zero to hero in terms of wrestling skill in such a short space of time.[/quote']

 

I think people expect Silva to win the second time around because he looked like garbage, and not as a result of Sonnen being good... Silva looked like a guy who thought he was going to coast through the fight, trained half-assed, and got a very rude awakening because of it... Silva on any other day is too strong, too quick, and too precise for anyone to roll over like that... I can completely understand Silva doesn't have the same skill level as Sonnen in wrestling and it would take several years for him to get to that level, his BJJ has served as the answer for him when he gets put in that situation and has shown to be a bigger threat on his back than most are on top...

 

I dunno... we'll see when the fight comes... one of three things are going to happen... Silva works on his TDD and scores the (T)KO, Silva works on his BJJ and scores a submission in the 2nd or 3rd round, or Sonnen wins by UD... if Sonnen does win, we'll know Silva probably trained his **** off and then I'd be willing to admit that Sonnen is better than Silva...

 

Also would like to say that, even though Sonnen out-struck Silva like 10 to 1, the 4-5 strikes Silva landed did more damage to Sonnen than Sonnen did to Silva the whole fight... speaks volumes in my opinion...

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Exactly' date=' thats the biggest reason I dont like this rematch. The other is I hate listening to Sonnen. Theres a line between hyping and trash talking, and just being ****in annoying. Hes like a clown trying to come up with all these analogies and stuff to sound as clever as possible. Give it a break[/quote']

 

Agree 100%. The guy doesnt know when its time to shut his mouth, you can only bare to that much bs from a fighter and hes crossed the line long ago. Hes just too much talking, makes me feel like its all fake.

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This is exactly why a rematch is needed. AGAIN to many of you are writing off Sonnen's preformance and skills as a joke even though UFC 117 HAPPENED. It wasn't a dream sonnen set up his takedowns with punches and kicks. He also countered Silva's dangerous onslaught with takedowns. Chael didn't give Silva a chance to knock him out he perfected a defense against something that has devasted the MW division for years and thats Anderson Silva's Stand up. Hate him or love him the man earned respect that night and yes he got tapped out that night. Great fight and I wanna see it again!

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This is exactly why a rematch is needed. AGAIN to many of you are writing off Sonnen's preformance and skills as a joke even though UFC 117 HAPPENED. It wasn't a dream sonnen set up his takedowns with punches and kicks. He also countered Silva's dangerous onslaught with takedowns. Chael didn't give Silva a chance to knock him out he perfected a defense against something that has devasted the MW division for years and thats Anderson Silva's Stand up. Hate him or love him the man earned respect that night and yes he got tapped out that night. Great fight and I wanna see it again!

 

Silva made Sonnen look good on purpose. He was hoping that if he let Sonnen land a few shots and take him down @ will that Dana would think GSP would tool him. But Anderson knows a fight with GSP will never happen so there's no reason to make Fail look good this time that's why Silva will make short work of him and Finish Fail in the first.

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Before I begin' date=' I would like to apollogize to everyone that did not want to see a Sonnen/Silva rematch. It's my fault. A couple weeks ago I posted about Anderson's elaborate Scheme to get a fight with GSP. Dana obviously saw my thread. After seeing the thread he realized that I was right. So instead of setting up GSP/Silva he decided to give Sonnen a rematch just to double check. Sadly for everyone who wanted to see GSP/Silva it's not gonna happen. Because In the rematch Sonnen's gonna get wrecked. There's no reason for Silva to allow Sonnen to do what he did last time. Silva knows Dana will never let the little Canadian poster boy fight Silva. So I'm calling it now, [b']Silva 1st round KO! Discuss[/b].

 

That right there is what people are going to say when they fight again then everyone will be surprised when Chael kicks his ****... Again.

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Silva made Sonnen look good on purpose. He was hoping that if he let Sonnen land a few shots and take him down @ will that Dana would think GSP would tool him. But Anderson knows a fight with GSP will never happen so there's no reason to make Fail look good this time that's why Silva will make short work of him and Finish Fail in the first.

 

I will sig/avatar bet anyone that the fight will go pass the 1st and/or 2nd round. PM me if your so damn sure it'll be finished within the first 2 rounds by silva ko or sub and the bet will be on.

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I sure hope it is a first round KO. Sonnen didn't deserve this rematch. He QUIT in the 5th round. When you quit' date=' you don't deserve a second chance at the belt.[/quote']

 

C'mon man, he didn't quit. Sonnen went all out for every round. If by "quit" you mean that he tapped, well yeah, then he did quit. But either way, he was going to lose to that triangle.

Sonnen gets the rematch, match up Marquardt against Belfort, and then give Silva the winner of that fight.

 

Silva by 2nd round TKO/Sub.

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Before I begin' date=' I would like to apollogize to everyone that did not want to see a Sonnen/Silva rematch. It's my fault. A couple weeks ago I posted about Anderson's elaborate Scheme to get a fight with GSP. Dana obviously saw my thread. After seeing the thread he realized that I was right. So instead of setting up GSP/Silva he decided to give Sonnen a rematch just to double check. Sadly for everyone who wanted to see GSP/Silva it's not gonna happen. Because In the rematch Sonnen's gonna get wrecked. There's no reason for Silva to allow Sonnen to do what he did last time. Silva knows Dana will never let the little Canadian poster boy fight Silva. So I'm calling it now, Silva 1st round KO! Discuss.[/quote']

 

Im ready for the countdown show :) wonder what sonnen will say..

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Clever! I bet you spent all last week thinking of that. And now' date=' finally, the opportunity to use that clever bit of retarded humor presented itself. Now you can finally die knowing that you are completely worthless.[/quote']

 

Its called sarcasm and he made a very valid point, which completely went over your head

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I will sig/avatar bet anyone that the fight will go pass the 1st and/or 2nd round. PM me if your so damn sure it'll be finished within the first 2 rounds by silva ko or sub and the bet will be on.

 

Im on my phone so I'll PM you when I get to a computer. But your on. You'll see that Anderson allowed that.

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For starters' date=' nobody is saying Silva is gonna become some kind of Wrestling hero. I agree, it's just not possible in such a short time. The thing is though, the only reason Sonnen made it out of the first was because Silva completely overlooked his hands. Remember the first couple times Sonnen tried to close the distance to Wrestle in the very first minute or so of round 1? Silva simply pushed him away while clearing his hips. Then..., he got caught because he never gave Fail's hands a second thought. You're an idiot to think that will happen again. It's a safe bet that, had Silva not been caught with that lucky punch in the first, Sonnen would have had takedown after takedown stuffed, all the while catching kicks and elbows, causing him to quit in the 1st. If you seriously think that Silva is gonna dismiss Sonnen's stand up again, allowing him to be caught again, then you're an idiot. Silva will stuff Fail's takedowns and he will be looking for his hands. And there is not a chance in hell of Sonnen winning any kind of stand up with Silva, when Silva is ready for it.[/quote']

 

You make no sense. This Anderson Silva who is the king of stuffing all takedowns unless you're some kind of elite striker. Where was he against Travis Lutter or Dan Henderson? Because I seem to remember both of those guys (coincidently the only two fighters that Anderson has fought with any kind of wrestling background) had a very easy time taking him down. The fact that Chael caught Anderson is irrelevant. He didn't even need to punch his way in for the shot most of the time. He was shooting from a long way off and as soon as he got a hold of Anderson's leg, the fight was on the ground.

 

You can call me an idiot all you want, but at least I have the sense to admit that Anderson was out-fought for 23 minutes in that fight instead of just claiming "He didn't try when he was training", "He didn't take the fight seriously", "He underestimated Chael". Get over yourself. He had no answer for Chael's wrestling and he's not going to in the second fight either. If he doesn't finish the fight then he'll lose on points. Simple.

 

Plenty of realistic fans on this forum knew exactly the threat that Chael posed and predicted a one-sided decision unless Anderson could finish the fight, while idiots like yourself were busy making threads saying "This fight is a joke", "Chael is getting KO'd in the first minute", "Chael is gonna get clowned like Maia and Leites". With no consideration or knowledge of how styles make match-ups. If the fans knew that this was gonna happen then so did Anderson and his trainers and the fight still went down like it did.

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The man has a point. Chael completely dominated every bit of that fight except the end and everyone is still writing him off.

 

Before, everyone who said Anderson would destroy Chael was just ignorant of Chael's skills.

Now that everyone has seen what he's capable of and I'm still reading posts where most of you are saying the same thing, I've come to the conclusion most of you are just ****ing stupid piss drinkers.

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Exactly' date=' thats the biggest reason I dont like this rematch. The other is I hate listening to Sonnen. Theres a line between hyping and trash talking, and just being ****in annoying. Hes like a clown trying to come up with all these analogies and stuff to sound as clever as possible. Give it a break[/quote']

 

In reality he was the reason for the best pre and post fight conferences in UFC history with one-liners never to be forgotten.

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Before I begin' date=' I would like to apollogize to everyone that did not want to see a Sonnen/Silva rematch. It's my fault. A couple weeks ago I posted about Anderson's elaborate Scheme to get a fight with GSP. Dana obviously saw my thread. After seeing the thread he realized that I was right. So instead of setting up GSP/Silva he decided to give Sonnen a rematch just to double check. Sadly for everyone who wanted to see GSP/Silva it's not gonna happen. Because In the rematch Sonnen's gonna get wrecked. There's no reason for Silva to allow Sonnen to do what he did last time. Silva knows Dana will never let the little Canadian poster boy fight Silva. So I'm calling it now, Silva 1st round KO! Discuss.[/quote']

 

This is the same call you made in the first fight.

 

Sonnen will KO Anderson in the rematch. Watch him train his standup......

 

He wasn't afraid of him the first time, and almost knocked his **** out. Next fight, he'll keep it standing, take it to Silva again, but this time Crappy Andy is going to sleep.

 

BOOM!

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In reality he was the reason for the best pre and post fight conferences in UFC history with one-liners never to be forgotten.

 

A good opinion but I'm just not in it for one liners. Im in it for good fights where the guys respect eachother but want to go out and win in devastating fashion and showcase all their skills needed to win in and then move on to the next.

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This is the same call you made in the first fight.

 

Sonnen will KO Anderson in the rematch. Watch him train his standup......

 

He wasn't afraid of him the first time' date=' and almost knocked his **** out. Next fight, he'll keep it standing, take it to Silva again, but this time Crappy Andy is going to sleep.

 

BOOM![/quote']

 

Anderson allowed it to go that far. This fight will end in the first. 2nd at the most. On a side note Evans is gonna lay on your boy for 5 rounds and become Chmpion. Anderson has faced 2 Elite wrestlers and subbed them both. Lets see how Shogun does against a wrestler thats not even as good as the 2 Silva faced.

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Anderson allowed it to go that far. This fight will end in the first. 2nd at the most. On a side note Evans is gonna lay on your boy for 5 rounds and become Chmpion. Anderson has faced 2 Elite wrestlers and subbed them both. Lets see how Shogun does against a wrestler thats not even as good as the 2 Silva faced.

 

Allowed it? LMAO....dude, you're embarrassing yourself. That's the funniest **** I've ever read.....

 

Fedor's fighting Rashad?

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You must not have read my thread on Anderson's Elaborate scheme. I'll bump it. And I thought Shogun was your boy.

 

Fedor is tops, but the Gun is definitely in my top 5. I'm starting to seriously worry about his future though......those knees are taking too much damage.

 

And if he's back to shape, he'll mangle Rashad. He's a leglock master - one of the best solutions to an aggressive wrestler. If Rashad takes it down, he's getting tapped out.

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Fedor is tops' date=' but the Gun is definitely in my top 5. I'm starting to seriously worry about his future though......those knees are taking too much damage.

 

And if he's back to shape, he'll mangle Rashad. He's a leglock master - one of the best solutions to an aggressive wrestler. If Rashad takes it down, he's getting tapped out.[/quote']

 

I think Rashad's smart enough to take to the ground and play it safe like Brock did with Mir @ 100.

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