Fast Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Remember the god ol days when a handshake and a persons's word was valued? Where has those days gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defsteve Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 The 70's arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab665 Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 you can thank paranoia and con artists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Posted August 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 The 70's arrived. Really? Did it start to turn that early? I was born in 74:eek: My grandparents use to tell me they coudl go to the bank and never sign a paper for money, they would shake hands and finalize the deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab665 Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Really? Did it start to turn that early? I was born in 74:eek: i think hes saying its your fault then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Posted August 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 i think hes saying its your fault then lol, Fast, the bringer of rebellion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffy_handsome Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 It's probably due to when ISO (International Organization of Standardization) was established. This groups itnroduces to the system of all companies that all things must be Documented. And we all knows that your company will not survived if they are not ISO certified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Posted August 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 It's probably due to when ISO (International Organization of Standardization) was established. This groups itnroduces to the system of all companies that all things must be Documented.And we all knows that your company will not survived if they are not ISO certified. But.. why do you feel like there was a need for that? In farming we have tractors now, but some still use Mules;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistolfli Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 I blame the media for making us all paranoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melkor Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 you can thank paranoia and con artists. Yes, con artists. People found that it is easier to make money illegally and immorally than getting a job and working hard for your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewster Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 I remember when a chocolate bar was only 25 cents. I remember when tv's didn't have a remote control I remember when I used to own a mortorola 8000... (for real) I remember watching UFC 1 on my illegal cable box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Posted August 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 I blame the media for making us all paranoid. You are correct, the media is good at that, but some of it could be caused by the actions that others took adn the media jsut presented it? If so, why do you think society has changed so much over the years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Posted August 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 I remember when a chocolate bar was only 25 cents. I remember when tv's didn't have a remote control I remember when I used to own a mortorola 8000... (for real) I remember watching UFC 1 on my illegal cable box That is the good ol days riught there! i remember I could go to a movie with my girl and 10 dollars covered the whole night, no cheap date either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melkor Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 I remember when tv's didn't have a remote control Me too and that was bad. I will never again be able to live without DVR capabilities, either. Best invention ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistolfli Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 You are correct' date=' the media is good at that, but some of it could be caused by the actions that others took adn the media jsut presented it? If so, why do you think society has changed so much over the years?[/quote'] I Have no problem with media reporting facts however todays media does hype things up to make it look worse than it is which can leed to a self fulfilling prophecy. I don't think there is any 1 thing that as made society go the way it has but a combination of a lot of things. The major issue i have with society today is a lack of personal responsibility & Personal accountability, most people are to quick to blame others for the problems in their lifes and not put any of the blame on themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuMaster Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 I also remember a one on one fight was a one on one fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uaquin Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 You are correct' date=' the media is good at that, but some of it could be caused by the actions that others took adn the media jsut presented it? If so, why do you think society has changed so much over the years?[/quote'] People are more insular and isolated now than ever before. Technology has made it so face to face interaction with others is at an all time low. People go to work, go home and lock themselves in their houses until it's time to go to work again. Interact over the internet, text messages, email, facebook but rarely face to face and even interacting verbally over the phone is less and less. The day of the handshake deal is long past because you never meet the person that actually makes any decisions anymore. To financial institutions your are nothing more than a formula. Any loan decision now is made by a computer not a real person. The other big reason is people are much more mobile. My grandparents bought their house shortly after WWII when they got married. They lived in that house until the day my grandfather passed away 50 some years later. My grandfather worked for the same company for 40 years. They knew every single person and family that lived around them on a first name basis. They had block BBQs and family gatherings all the time. Someone new moving to the area was a big deal and was greeted by the whole block. Now 10 years is a long time to live in one place or work for one company. No one cares to get to know anyone unless they are pissing you off with loud music or something. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-depression-cure/200907/social-isolation-modern-plague Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Posted August 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 People are more insular and isolated now than ever before. Technology has made it so face to face interaction with others is at an all time low. People go to work' date=' go home and lock themselves in their houses until it's time to go to work again. Interact over the internet, text messages, email, facebook but rarely face to face and even interacting verbally over the phone is less and less. The day of the handshake deal is long past because you never meet the person that actually makes any decisions anymore. To financial institutions your are nothing more than a formula. Any loan decision now is made by a computer not a real person. The other big reason is people are much more mobile. My grandparents bought their house shortly after WWII when they got married. They lived in that house until the day my grandfather passed away 50 some years later. My grandfather worked for the same company for 40 years. They knew every single person and family that lived around them on a first name basis. They had block BBQs and family gatherings all the time. Someone new moving to the area was a big deal and was greeted by the whole block. Now 10 years is a long time to live in one place or work for one company. No one cares to get to know anyone unless they are pissing you off with loud music or something. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-depression-cure/200907/social-isolation-modern-plague[/quote'] Wow, good post, it hits on some of the major things causing this decline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uaquin Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 I remember when a chocolate bar was only 25 cents. I remember when tv's didn't have a remote control I remember when I used to own a mortorola 8000... (for real) I remember watching UFC 1 on my illegal cable box I remember watching sat morning cartoons with my sisters and arguing over who's turn it was to get up and change the channel. I remember when that choice was a total of 3 channels. I remember when our Tandy TRS80 was cutting edge technology and you loaded games off a cassette tape. I remember when from the age of 6 my Mom would send me on my bike to the corner store 20mins away and not worry at all about child abduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderProdigy Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 my generation arrvied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Posted August 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 my generation arrvied God help us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderProdigy Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 God help us just imagine our kids :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistolfli Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 just imagine our kids :eek: now might be a good time to introduce population control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uaquin Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Yes' date=' con artists. People found that it is easier to make money illegally and immorally than getting a job and working hard for your money.[/quote'] There have been con men and "snake oil" salesmen around probably since time began or maybe even a bit before;). The difference is now a days people don't want to work for anything. Our society now is all about the "quick fix" and instant gratification. Be it get rich quick, lose weight quick or whatever. The con men are just more successful now because we let them be with our laziness. The media is the same situation. They know 99% of people can't be bothered to know the real story. People feed on sensationalism so that's what they report to get ratings and ratings sell advertisements. "Triple Homicide in Gang shoot out" gets ratings. Reporting that gun violence is down 18% over the last 5 years doesn't. Our politicians feed us the same tripe. You get votes by scaring people about the other guy and the average person eats it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderProdigy Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 now might be a good time to introduce population control you can't stop us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor_Obviously Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Technology....so complicated. Or is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaTsA Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 The Industrial Revolution came. I'm not going to get into a discussion about it however, been there, done that far too many times, opinions are far to strong on the subject. You either understand where I'm coming from with it, or you don't. However, that really is the simple answer to the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibberish Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 There have been con men and "snake oil" salesmen around probably since time began or maybe even a bit before;). The difference is now a days people don't want to work for anything. Our society now is all about the "quick fix" and instant gratification. Be it get rich quick' date=' lose weight quick or whatever. The con men are just more successful now because we let them be with our laziness. The media is the same situation. They know 99% of people can't be bothered to know the real story. People feed on sensationalism so that's what they report to get ratings and ratings sell advertisements. "Triple Homicide in Gang shoot out" gets ratings. Reporting that gun violence is down 18% over the last 5 years doesn't. Our politicians feed us the same tripe. You get votes by scaring people about the other guy and the average person eats it up.[/quote'] uaquin, i got this fool proof plan that's gonna make billions. i got everything worked out, everythings taken care. i got all my i's dotted and t's crossed. i'm climbing straight to the top. man, i just need $1000 more and............i'll pm you the info and the address you can send the money. you down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uaquin Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 uaquin' date=' i got this fool proof plan that's gonna make billions. i got everything worked out, everythings taken care. i got all my i's dotted and t's crossed. i'm climbing straight to the top. man, i just need $1000 more and............i'll pm you the info and the address you can send the money. you down?[/quote'] LOL you know what is sad? Take that pitch, have a web site made and send out some spam mail and I bet you would get some takers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddievanhalen3 Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Another Random thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibberish Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 LOL you know what is sad? Take that pitch' date=' have a web site made and send out some spam mail and I bet you would get some takers.[/quote'] glad to see ya take it in stride. He would..... what is this suppose to mean lace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uaquin Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 glad to see ya take it in stride. I've been married for 15 years, I take it pretty much any way I can get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Posted August 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Not anymore' date=' Fast.....[/quote'] A night out for my family like that? No less than 70 dollars.:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uaquin Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 A night out for my family like that? No less than 70 dollars.:eek: WoW, I wish $70.00 Went out for my birthday to a nice restaurant and dinner. $180+ tip for dinner another $45.00 for the movies and popcorn. And yes, it was my b-day but the money can out of my wallet. I should ask that in the ask the ladies thread. What's with the whole "mine is mine and yours is ours scenario." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trinimmaman Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Where the hell have I been, TV's have remotes??? Why wasn't I informed of this earlier??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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