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With Toney in the UFC will we see boxing type paydays for MMA fighters?

 

We all know, when it comes to money, boxing is where its at. At the prefight press conference Toney was seriously blinged out! By his own admission (and I believe him) his bracelets cost $10,000 each, his watch (which he called a “brother’s watch”) set him back about $185,000 and his diamond cross necklace cost $200,000. He had over $400,000 worth of bling on him.

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i dont think anyone deserves that much money. What about all the builders and laboureres and painters and all the peopel getting paid sht wages could use some of that. Why not just pay a fighter a million or 2 and divy up all the rest amongst all the workers that without them no fight could take place anyway becasue there would be no stage....

 

So more people can have a better life not just 1 dude. Same goes for actors and musicians and CEOS of companies. I dont think anyone deserves 25 million for having one fight or starring or directing one movie. Theres a lot of people that work harder everyday. on that or those events for them to happen.

 

Ceos paying themselves 100 million dollars when the company goes under. All that money should be shuffled right through the whole company when it goes under. Because without the workers man , that CEO would never of been able to make that money.

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You should get paid what you are worth. Yeah other people might work harder but if it doesnt require much skill well then what is their motivation to pay you more? When there is someone willing to do it for less?

 

Proffesional sport players should get paid alot due to they bring in a TON of money. Pro boxing actual payed fighters their worth. If a fighter was going to bring in 250 million they paid them like 40 mil. Thats wrong? Hes the whole reason for half of that 250 million unless hes fighting a nobody then hes responsible for bringing in more than just half. Thats fair if I have ever seen in it. Brock Lesnar brings in millions and millions I think he should get paid millions.

 

These undercards fighters may bust their asses trying but if you dont bring in fans I dont understand why they would pay you high amounts. I dont get how we have some pretty high paying sponsors sell just as many PPV's as Boxing(Sometimes) and our fighters get paid 1/40 as much and I also dont know why only a few fighters get pissed about it and when they do everyone hates on them for wanting to get paid more then middle class when he brings in millions and millions of dollars. An example of this is Tito.

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I hope not. Otherwise the UFC are gonna have to cut 95% of the roster just to pay for guys like Brock' date=' Anderson and GSP.[/quote']

 

that is what I was trying to get at... at this point the UFC has exclusive contracts with their fighters but for boxer salaries their business plan would have to undergo a major change. The wont have the luxury of having fighters on their roster, it would be more like what boxing is today. Will something like this happens? I dont know. I am pretty sure the UFC will not want this to happen as they lose their hold on this sport.

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i dont think anyone deserves that much money. What about all the builders and laborers and painters and all the people getting paid sht wages could use some of that. Why not just pay a fighter a million or 2 and divy up all the rest amongst all the workers that without them no fight could take place anyway because there would be no stage....

 

So more people can have a better life not just 1 dude. Same goes for actors and musicians and CEOS of companies. I dont think anyone deserves 25 million for having one fight or starring or directing one movie. Theres a lot of people that work harder everyday. on that or those events for them to happen.

 

Ceos paying themselves 100 million dollars when the company goes under. All that money should be shuffled right through the whole company when it goes under. Because without the workers man ' date=' that CEO would never of been able to make that money.[/quote']

 

Sir...

 

On SO many levels...THANK YOU! And A-****ing-men.

 

THIS EXACTLY. Economics in the world today are SOOOO ****ed up. I mean BADLY ****ed up. And the WORST part is...people like Beck, Limbaugh and the Fox News crowd have THE PEOPLE BEING SCREWED....VOTING TO BE SCREWED.

 

In other words...the victims of rampant capitalism...are convinced that they SHOULD be victimized.

 

Socialism is NOT evil...in fact when applied with some of the principles of capitalism..I think you'd have the finest economic system EVER devised.

 

We need some elements of capitalism. (Hard work..competence etc.)

And we need some elements of socialism. (VALUE for your work. HONEST value. Not 10 dollars for an hour of sucking **** from porta-potties. VS CEO of Verizon getting a BJ from a 10,000 dollar an hour hooker AND STILL making 1 million dollars that day...doing nothing but getting his rocks off. Seriously...whos day deserves 1 million more. The guy getting blown. Or the guy out there sucking YOUR **** from a hole in a plastic stall for 10 hours in a day? Exactly. Our economies would be WAY WAY stronger if MORE money was in the hands of the "common man". FOX News literally uses the sentence..

 

"They want to redistribute the wealth!!!"

 

As if it were some sort of BAD thing. And the ****ing sheep who listen to the FOX crowd..TRULY BELIEVE it's a bad thing. But wealth redistribution is EXACTLY what we do need. Call it what it IS. And grow a pair and STAND FOR IT OBAMA!!

 

 

Anyway.. back to MMA paydays vs Boxing..

 

NO ONE deserves "boxing" paydays. I agree...(like a socialist) that ALL fighters at the professional level should have some sort of minimum guarantee per fight. Say...45 Grand. At the top levels...contenders should get around..say..300K and champs should get anywhere from 1-3 million per fight. But ANY more than 3 million is just ugly and frankly evil greed.

 

Cheers gentlemen! And nyran125...THANK YOU again...BRILLIANT contribution.

 

-DR

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Sir...

 

On SO many levels...THANK YOU! And A-****ing-men.

 

THIS EXACTLY. Economics in the world today are SOOOO ****ed up. I mean BADLY ****ed up. And the WORST part is...people like Beck' date=' Limbaugh and the Fox News crowd have THE PEOPLE BEING SCREWED....VOTING TO BE SCREWED.

 

In other words...the victims of rampant capitalism...are convinced that they SHOULD be victimized.

 

Socialism is NOT evil...in fact when applied with some of the principles of capitalism..I think you'd have the finest economic system EVER devised.

 

We need some elements of capitalism. (Hard work..competence etc.)

And we need some elements of socialism. (VALUE for your work. HONEST value. Not 10 dollars for an hour of sucking **** from porta-potties. VS CEO of Verizon getting a BJ from a 10,000 dollar an hour hooker AND STILL making 1 million dollars that day...doing nothing but getting his rocks off. Seriously...whos day deserves 1 million more. The guy getting blown. Or the guy out there sucking YOUR **** from a hole in a plastic stall for 10 hours in a day? Exactly. Our economies would be WAY WAY stronger if MORE money was in the hands of the "common man". FOX News literally uses the sentence..

 

"They want to redistribute the wealth!!!"

 

As if it were some sort of BAD thing. And the ****ing sheep who listen to the FOX crowd..TRULY BELIEVE it's a bad thing. But wealth redistribution is EXACTLY what we do need. Call it what it IS. And grow a pair and STAND FOR IT OBAMA!!

 

 

Anyway.. back to MMA paydays vs Boxing..

 

NO ONE deserves "boxing" paydays. I agree...(like a socialist) that ALL fighters at the professional level should have some sort of minimum guarantee per fight. Say...45 Grand. At the top levels...contenders should get around..say..300K and champs should get anywhere from 1-3 million per fight. But ANY more than 3 million is just ugly and frankly evil greed.

 

Cheers gentlemen! And nyran125...THANK YOU again...BRILLIANT contribution.

 

-DR[/quote']

 

Amen brother.

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Sir...

 

On SO many levels...THANK YOU! And A-****ing-men.

 

THIS EXACTLY. Economics in the world today are SOOOO ****ed up. I mean BADLY ****ed up. And the WORST part is...people like Beck' date=' Limbaugh and the Fox News crowd have THE PEOPLE BEING SCREWED....VOTING TO BE SCREWED.

 

In other words...the victims of rampant capitalism...are convinced that they SHOULD be victimized.

 

Socialism is NOT evil...in fact when applied with some of the principles of capitalism..I think you'd have the finest economic system EVER devised.

 

We need some elements of capitalism. (Hard work..competence etc.)

And we need some elements of socialism. (VALUE for your work. HONEST value. Not 10 dollars for an hour of sucking **** from porta-potties. VS CEO of Verizon getting a BJ from a 10,000 dollar an hour hooker AND STILL making 1 million dollars that day...doing nothing but getting his rocks off. Seriously...whos day deserves 1 million more. The guy getting blown. Or the guy out there sucking YOUR **** from a hole in a plastic stall for 10 hours in a day? Exactly. Our economies would be WAY WAY stronger if MORE money was in the hands of the "common man". FOX News literally uses the sentence..

 

"They want to redistribute the wealth!!!"

 

As if it were some sort of BAD thing. And the ****ing sheep who listen to the FOX crowd..TRULY BELIEVE it's a bad thing. But wealth redistribution is EXACTLY what we do need. Call it what it IS. And grow a pair and STAND FOR IT OBAMA!!

 

 

Anyway.. back to MMA paydays vs Boxing..

 

NO ONE deserves "boxing" paydays. I agree...(like a socialist) that ALL fighters at the professional level should have some sort of minimum guarantee per fight. Say...45 Grand. At the top levels...contenders should get around..say..300K and champs should get anywhere from 1-3 million per fight. But ANY more than 3 million is just ugly and frankly evil greed.

 

Cheers gentlemen! And nyran125...THANK YOU again...BRILLIANT contribution.

 

-DR[/quote']

 

Good post DR and I can see you're very passionate about this subject. I consider myself a progressive and also believe that the income gap within the United States is horrifying considering that we believe ourselves to be a land of equal opportunity.

 

However typical American ideology is, and always has been "work for what you get". Not that there is any truth to this statement when we look at reality, as most of the wealthy inherit their fortune. Despite very low upward mobility within our country, many on the bottom and in the middle still hold a pipe dream that they will join the top 1% of American earners.

 

America is plagued by ideological hegemony. The elite have convinced everyone else that it is their best interest to accept their values because that is the first step to joining them and gaining riches. However all they are really doing is convincing the rest of the population to vote for policies which are inherently bad for the vast majority of Americans. It's amazing how consistently and confidently a HUGE percentage of American's vote AGAINST their own interests every single election.

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Good post DR and I can see you're very passionate about this subject. I consider myself a progressive and also believe that the income gap within the United States is horrifying considering that we believe ourselves to be a land of equal opportunity.

 

However typical American ideology is' date=' and always has been "work for what you get". Not that there is any truth to this statement when we look at reality, as most of the wealthy inherit their fortune. Despite very low upward mobility within our country, many on the bottom and in the middle still hold a pipe dream that they will join the top 1% of American earners.

 

America is plagued by ideological hegemony. The elite have convinced everyone else that it is their best interest to accept their values because that is the first step to joining them and gaining riches. However all they are really doing is convincing the rest of the population to vote for policies which are inherently bad for the vast majority of Americans. [b']It's amazing how consistently and confidently a HUGE percentage of American's vote AGAINST their own interests every single election[/b].

 

 

Thank you sir! Great addition to the conversation. That bolded bit you wrote there at the end is one of my biggest frustrations about America and it's people. The "Fox News" crowd..Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly and all the conservative radio idiots have literally poisoned the minds of about half of the country.

 

Sad...and frustrating as hell.

 

Cheers sir

 

-DR

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Thank you sir! Great addition to the conversation. That bolded bit you wrote there at the end is one of my biggest frustrations about America and it's people. The "Fox News" crowd..Limbaugh' date=' Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly and all the conservative radio idiots have literally poisoned the minds of about half of the country.

 

Sad...and frustrating as hell.

 

Cheers sir

 

-DR[/quote']

 

Yes, voodoo politics, protecting business. At some point in our recent history we've forgotten that when business is unregulated you get minor problems like...slavery and child labor. Capitalism and the buyer/seller market creates a cut throat economy by it's very nature. Since the Reagan era "trickle down economics" are still somehow believed to be a successful type of taxation policy. However even when examined with simple raw logic it makes no sense.

 

Why would you give a tax break to the people who already have tons of money so they can give it to the average worker? Why not just cut out of the middle man and give the money to the average worker directly?

 

Trickle down economics is supposed to help promote and expand business, but NOTHING will promote and expand business like a hungry and dedicated work force. I honestly think if someone doesn't take the reigns of this country and aggressively attack the income inequality problem, there will be a serious historic event some time in the near future (by near I mean 5-6 generations) in which we see some type of revolution, quiet or violent, in which a new and highly socialist policy is adopted. Maybe it was the landslide

 

United States is still a VERY rich country, and 80% of our wealth is concentrated within less than 10% of the population. With the values of equality that the United States boasts about, redistribution of the wealth seems like something that should be obvious. However that 10% does an extremely surprising job convincing enough of the population that them having to give some of their huge wad away is a bad idea.

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Yes' date=' voodoo politics, protecting business. At some point in our recent history we've forgotten that when business is unregulated you get minor problems like...slavery and child labor. Capitalism and the buyer/seller market creates a cut throat economy by it's very nature. Since the Reagan era "trickle down economics" are still somehow believed to be a successful type of taxation policy. However even when examined with simple raw logic it makes no sense.

 

Why would you give a tax break to the people who already have tons of money so they can give it to the average worker? [b']Why not just cut out of the middle man and give the money to the average worker directly?[/b]

 

Trickle down economics is supposed to help promote and expand business, but NOTHING will promote and expand business like a hungry and dedicated work force. I honestly think if someone doesn't take the reigns of this country and aggressively attack the income inequality problem, there will be a serious historic event some time in the near future (by near I mean 5-6 generations) in which we see some type of revolution, quiet or violent, in which a new and highly socialist policy is adopted. Maybe it was the landslide

 

United States is still a VERY rich country, and 80% of our wealth is concentrated within less than 10% of the population. With the values of equality that the United States boasts about, redistribution of the wealth seems like something that should be obvious. However that 10% does an extremely surprising job convincing enough of the population that them having to give some of their huge wad away is a bad idea.

 

Brilliant post sir! I completely agree.

 

Cheers!

 

-DR

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