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REALLY? SERIOUSLY?

 

Agreed - he's a good boxer - NOT one of the greatest ever (he's fought numerous cans throughout his career), but a good boxer...

 

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How can people realistically think he's going to catch Randy and knock him out with one punch? Couture doesn't exactly have a glass jaw. He's taken the best a monster like Brock can offer, ELBOWS to the dome from MT aces like Brendan Vera, and countless shots from Liddell in his prime. Why all the sudden is Couture going to be knocked out with one punch??? I just don't see it...

 

If we were talking about Bisping, it might be a different story lol

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REALLY? SERIOUSLY?

 

Agreed - he's a good boxer - NOT one of the greatest ever (he's fought numerous cans throughout his career)' date=' but a good boxer...

 

BUT

 

How can people realistically think he's going to catch Randy and knock him out with one punch? Couture doesn't exactly have a glass jaw. He's taken the best a monster like Brock can offer, ELBOWS to the dome from MT aces like Brendan Vera, and countless shots from Liddell in his prime. Why all the sudden is Couture going to be knocked out with one punch??? I just don't see it...

 

If we were talking about Bisping, it might be a different story lol[/quote']

 

Because Nog made him do the stanky leg with a lazy punch

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REALLY? SERIOUSLY?

 

Agreed - he's a good boxer - NOT one of the greatest ever (he's fought numerous cans throughout his career)' date=' but a good boxer...

 

BUT

 

How can people realistically think he's going to catch Randy and knock him out with one punch? Couture doesn't exactly have a glass jaw. He's taken the best a monster like Brock can offer, ELBOWS to the dome from MT aces like Brendan Vera, and countless shots from Liddell in his prime. Why all the sudden is Couture going to be knocked out with one punch??? I just don't see it...

 

If we were talking about Bisping, it might be a different story lol[/quote']

 

You kidding? Couture got dropped like a sack of potatos by Big Nog......3 times. With straight rights. Couture has been knocked out 5 times, 6 if you include Rizzo submitting him with strikes........he got floored by Liddell twice........if Toney hits him, he's going down.

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Toney will gas in a matter of minute when he's being pressured against the cage and on the ground.

 

This will start controversy as to whether or not boxers have the stamina mma fighters have.

 

Either way' date=' boxing is about to get embarrassed.[/quote']

 

Shut the **** up already. Boxing will not be embarassed because this has nothing to do with boxing. It is James Toney vs Randy Couture in the UFC heavyweight division nothing more nothing less

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Shut the **** up already. Boxing will not be embarassed because this has nothing to do with boxing. It is James Toney vs Randy Couture in the UFC heavyweight division nothing more nothing less

 

Dude. If Toney loses tonight it will prove that Floyd Mayweather is a horrible fighter and that boxing should be disbanded all together

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Dude. If Toney loses tonight it will prove that Floyd Mayweather is a horrible fighter and that boxing should be disbanded all together

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. A 41 year old Toney loses and all of a sudden Mayweather sucks and boxing is no longer legible? LOL YOU ARE SO ****ING DUMB

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first off' date=' Toney has never knocked anyone out with 1 punch. that being said, doesnt mean he cant KO Randy. I think if Randy can take it past the 1st rounf this fight is his.[/quote']

 

I assume when you say he hasn't knocked out anyone with 1 punch, you mean that being the only punch thrown from him........

 

If not, you clearly haven't watched him box. He's knocked out plenty of men with one punch (albeit not the only punch in the fight)

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I assume when you say he hasn't knocked out anyone with 1 punch' date=' you mean that being the only punch thrown from him........

 

If not, you clearly haven't watched him box. He's knocked out plenty of men with one punch (albeit not the only punch in the fight)[/quote']

 

LOL this, and with the smaller gloves and Randys weak chin, it doesnt seem to far fetched to think it would be a pretty easy KO for Toney if he connects

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Power definitely has alot to do with it...but location has even more to do with it...Toney's striking will be VERY precise...thats why all Couture needs to do to win is LEG KICK the holy hell out of him while staying out of Toney's range(Toney is only 5' 11") and once he disrupts Toney's rythym...he will have no prob getting the takedown....Toney thinks Randy will try and land punches in the clinch because of the "dirty boxing" label...Couture will take him down so fast in the clinch it will make your head spin.....and finally the only fighter to try and give Toney some credentials is frigging King Mo...and we all saw where his credentials were after Houston

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I assume when you say he hasn't knocked out anyone with 1 punch' date=' you mean that being the only punch thrown from him........

 

If not, you clearly haven't watched him box. He's knocked out plenty of men with one punch (albeit not the only punch in the fight)[/quote']

 

That is what I mean. I know his power. I'm just saying that Randy doesnt have to worry about that 1 punch and its over. Doesnt mean he doesnt take a good shot and then 3-4 hits later he's out.

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That is what I mean. I know his power. I'm just saying that Randy doesnt have to worry about that 1 punch and its over. Doesnt mean he doesnt take a good shot and then 3-4 hits later he's out.

 

Gotcha. But I disagree for the most part. Toney definitely has one-punch power, especially against Randy. I'd even go so far as to say a grazing punch could put Randy's lights out........he got one-punched by Chuck, so clearly James can do it.

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he has yet to ko someone with 1 punch. that said if randy sits in front of him and toney hits him on the button' date=' sure it could happen. I dont see Randy standing with him long enough[/quote']

 

?? I think we're missing something here......he's knocked out plenty of guys with one punch.

 

Your definition of "knocking a guy out with one punch" would exclude anyone in history who threw more than one punch in a fight.......I'm not understanding the logic.

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?? I think we're missing something here......he's knocked out plenty of guys with one punch.

 

Your definition of "knocking a guy out with one punch" would exclude anyone in history who threw more than one punch in a fight.......I'm not understanding the logic.

 

What he said, the dudes got like 40 or so knock outs.

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The thing is, Toney's KOs in boxing were normally setup from multiple flurries - but this is for almost any boxer. I think I can count on one hand true "1 punch knockouts" I've ever seen.

 

If those 5-6 punch KO's were with 4 oz gloves, you better believe they would have been one punch......

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1) saying Toney isn't one of the best ever is.. i dont agree.

2) couture might not have a GLASS jaw, but it's definitely not granite. especially recently, he gets rocked by everything that hits him above the shoulders.

3) 4 oz gloves are unforgiving. toney might not have devastating one hit KO with boxing gloves, but 4 oz is a whole other story.

4) doesn't matter couture is going to close the gap and throw toney on his head pretty quick.

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Toney can KO Randy with one good shot. The 4oz gloves make a HUGE difference and Toney has much more accurate and well rounded hands than Nog, Lesnar, and Vera and Randy was either KO'd or tagged repeatedly in those fights.

 

There's all this bashing going around that thinking Toney will win is stupid and all that none sense when saying Toney has no shot is even worse. It only takes 1 and it's been proved over and over in MMA.

 

As emphasis is Nick Diaz a huge power puncher? No but 1 punch KO'd Lawler but Melvin Manhoef who repeatedly mauled on Lawler couldn't do the same...

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You are confused or uneducated

 

for some reason everyone is confused here. I never said Toney couldnt ko people. its pretty obvious with his record he can. I said he wasnt a 1 punch ko fighter. example, bisping and hendo when hendo caught bisping and he was out before he hit the ground. toney will hit you and daze the hell out of you and 3-4 punches later its over. Thats all, take it for what its worth, I'm rooting for Randy but im not counting Toney out if Randy sits in front of him.

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for some reason everyone is confused here. I never said Toney couldnt ko people. its pretty obvious with his record he can. I said he wasnt a 1 punch ko fighter. example' date=' bisping and hendo when hendo caught bisping and he was out before he hit the ground. toney will hit you and daze the hell out of you and 3-4 punches later its over. Thats all, take it for what its worth, I'm rooting for Randy but im not counting Toney out if Randy sits in front of him.[/quote']

 

Fair enough but ive seen Toney one punch ko ppl

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for some reason everyone is confused here. I never said Toney couldnt ko people. its pretty obvious with his record he can. I said he wasnt a 1 punch ko fighter. example' date=' bisping and hendo when hendo caught bisping and he was out before he hit the ground. toney will hit you and daze the hell out of you and 3-4 punches later its over. Thats all, take it for what its worth, I'm rooting for Randy but im not counting Toney out if Randy sits in front of him.[/quote']

 

Nobody is confused but you. Toney can KO a guy with one punch because he has. Add to that smaller gloves and the fact that Captain America has been dropped before by much lesser strikers than Toney equals a strong possibility of a one-punch KO.

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for some reason everyone is confused here. I never said Toney couldnt ko people. its pretty obvious with his record he can. I said he wasnt a 1 punch ko fighter. example' date=' bisping and hendo when hendo caught bisping and he was out before he hit the ground. toney will hit you and daze the hell out of you and 3-4 punches later its over. Thats all, take it for what its worth, I'm rooting for Randy but im not counting Toney out if Randy sits in front of him.[/quote']

 

Well that is because Hendo is a crappy striker. He just loads up that big right hand and off course it will KO someone when it lands. However any decent striker can see it coming from a mile away. Toney is a way more technical striker and on the level he has been fighting you can't just bet on that single big punch to land. You need to faint, slip punches and set up combo's. From a pure technical perspective Toney really is one of the greatest strikers of our generation and he was considered the best p4p striker for a while in the peak of his career and it took a legend like Roy Jones Jr. to change that. Even a 42 year old and out of shape toney will embarass any UFC fighter that would be stupid enough to strike with him.

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I will say' date=' I was not aware of the big difference of ko power with the smaller gloves. My bad for being uneducated on that subject.[/quote']

 

The power or energy that is being transfered throughout the body to the fist is not going to be absorbed or taken away as if you were wearing boxing gloves

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Shut the **** up already. Boxing will not be embarassed because this has nothing to do with boxing. It is James Toney vs Randy Couture in the UFC heavyweight division nothing more nothing less

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The fight has ONLY been hyped as MMA v. Boxing, and it's a legend of MMA v. a legend of Boxing.....the ONLY reason the fight was made was to bring boxing fans into MMA.

 

James Toney is NOT a mixed martial artist

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