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to be honest, i am a little bit annoyed at the card for the ufc's event in London. they have basically put some brits on there and expected us all to go crazy. this could be the reason that they are struggling to sell tickets for the event. maybe a good fight which will mean something such as a potential tittle match eliminator would have been needed??

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Hardy has something to win. He really hasn't beaten anyone in the top 10 and he got absolutely controlled for 25 minutes in his title fight. A win over Condit solidifies him as a top 10 WW. Bisping's fight won't really prove anything, although I believe Akiyama is a step up from Dan Miller. Hathaway is getting the shaft here. Mike Pyle is not a contender.

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Hardy has something to win. He really hasn't beaten anyone in the top 10 and he got absolutely controlled for 25 minutes in his title fight. A win over Condit solidifies him as a top 10 WW. Bisping's fight won't really prove anything' date=' although I believe Akiyama is a step up from Dan Miller. Hathaway is getting the shaft here. Mike Pyle is not a contender.[/quote']

 

I do kind of agree with this. It's not a pointless fight for the British guys. Bisping may be able to impress some people with a win over Akiyama. It'll probably solidify his place as a top 10 MW. A lot of haters still whine about how he's never beaten a top 10 guy.

 

Hardy is coming off a title fight defeat and is fighting Condit who is probably on par with Mike Swick if not higher. He's certainly no joke.

 

Hathaway won't prove anything by beating Mike Pyle, although his reputation could go to **** if he loses. Pyle is stylistically a good match-up for Hathaway and I think most MMA fans are expecting him to defeat him comfortably.

 

It's definitely not on par with UFC 105, which was a huge night for British MMA. British fighters went 7-3 (with one of those wins and one of those losses coming in the fight between Hathaway and Taylor) on a night where a good number of them were underdogs. Pearson and Etim were clear favourites but the rest of the British guys on that card were tipped to be in for a tough night.

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So what I get from this is, you guys in Britain just want exciting fights on the card, and don't really care if they are British. Makes sense to me. I have enjoyed all the cards from England on Spike. Only time that I thought it was quite dissapointing was a main event between Vera and Couture, come on, that is maybe co main event worthy. I think 120 will be full of great fights though. I am really looking forward to the Dan Hardy fight and seeing Diabate fight.

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Sexy should not have a main event after a loss' date=' after seeing him get subbed by Leben I thought maybe he would go back to Japan where the competitions a little easier.[/quote']

 

Nobody wants to watch Bisping out-point another can, and none of the higher ranked fighters want to fight on a British card because they won't make nearly as much money. Akiyama was a good choice as he's just outside the top 10.

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Hardy has something to win. He really hasn't beaten anyone in the top 10 and he got absolutely controlled for 25 minutes in his title fight. A win over Condit solidifies him as a top 10 WW. Bisping's fight won't really prove anything' date=' although I believe Akiyama is a step up from Dan Miller. Hathaway is getting the shaft here. Mike Pyle is not a contender.[/quote']

 

Yes, I was dissapointed to see Pyle matched up with Hathaway. That kind of thing honestly makes me think, what the hell are they smoking?? Hathaway is an undefeated fighter with 4 wins in the UFC. Pyle has gone 2 for 2, why on earth is hathaway not fighting someone with at least a 2 fight win streak? Seriously, if you know please tell me!:cool:

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Nobody wants to watch Bisping out-point another can' date=' and none of the higher ranked fighters want to fight on a British card because they won't make nearly as much money. Akiyama was a good choice as he's just outside the top 10.[/quote']

 

You're overestimating the amount of money that fighters make out of PPV cuts. Of course it's a big deal to the guys that earn ?100k+ base for each of their fights, but most fighters don't earn enough from the PPV cut to make it worth holding out for. Vitor Belfort and Yushin Okami have signed to fight at UFC 122 in Germany, which is gonna be a free card. It's not all down to PPV cuts. If anything I'd say it's mainly down to where the UFC has its priorities at the moment. They're obviously trying to break into the German market, but also require the services of a number of higher level guys to help support other cards which are going on at a similar time.

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Yes' date=' I was dissapointed to see Pyle matched up with Hathaway. That kind of thing honestly makes me think, what the hell are they smoking?? Hathaway is an undefeated fighter with 4 wins in the UFC. Pyle has gone 2 for 2, why on earth is hathaway not fighting someone with at least a 2 fight win streak? Seriously, if you know please tell me!:cool:[/quote']

 

He was signed to fight Dong Hyun Kim. But he pulled out due to injury. Mike Pyle stepped up and took the fight in the knowledge that he wouldn't have time to fully prepare, which a lot of fighters don't like doing.

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He was signed to fight Dong Hyun Kim. But he pulled out due to injury. Mike Pyle stepped up and took the fight in the knowledge that he wouldn't have time to fully prepare' date=' which a lot of fighters don't like doing.[/quote']

 

Good call. Hathaway vs Kim, I would have liked to see that fight. I actually think Hathaway could prevent enough takedowns to mess up Kim, or even take Kim down. I don't like watching Kim fight ever since he fought Sadollah and just grappled with him.

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Good call. Hathaway vs Kim' date=' I would have liked to see that fight. I actually think Hathaway could prevent enough takedowns to mess up Kim, or even take Kim down. I don't like watching Kim fight ever since he fought Sadollah and just grappled with him.[/quote']

 

Being a judo specialist obviously draws a number of similarities between him and Karo Parisyan, but they utilise it in such different ways that anyone without a decent knowledge of MMA would have no idea that they were from the same background. Hathaway has obviously shown a superior level of wrestling to other British guys in the UFC, but defending takedowns from wrestlers can be a completely different ball game to defending takedowns from judokas. That said, when was the last time Kim fought anyone with any real wrestling credentials? It could easily work the same in reverse.

 

It would certainly be an interesting fight. I think that the conflicting styles would mean that neither fighter would have the edge in the takedown department. Hathaway would certainly stand a better chance if the fight stayed standing, but I think that Kim would be more comfortable off of his back than Hathaway. And Hathaway would certainly want to stay away from the clinch.

 

It's an interesting match-up and I'm disappointed that it didn't materialise. Could easily come up again in the future though.

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yeah bisping should have thought okami or belfort. This is a much more blockbuster main event for us british fans to see. being as it only comes around once every now and then lol

 

Well I think Dana is intent on breaking into the German market so I can understand why he's having these guys fight in Germany instead. Bisping vs Akiyama is a pretty high profile fight. And coming off a win over Dan Miller and being 3-2 in his last 5 fights, it would be hard to make a serious argument for him to be fighting for #1 contendership right now.

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to be honest' date=' i am a little bit annoyed at the card for the ufc's event in London. they have basically put some brits on there and expected us all to go crazy. this could be the reason that they are struggling to sell tickets for the event. maybe a good fight which will mean something such as a potential tittle match eliminator would have been needed??[/quote']

 

Meh I get to see it on TV for free so I have no complaints. Even still while theres no huge names on the card I dont really think u can complain till after. It could be the best card of the year when its said n done you jus dunno.

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to be honest' date=' i am a little bit annoyed at the card for the ufc's event in London. they have basically put some brits on there and expected us all to go crazy. this could be the reason that they are struggling to sell tickets for the event. maybe a good fight which will mean something such as a potential tittle match eliminator would have been needed??[/quote']

 

This is a card if the british fighters dont put on a good show they dont deserve top tier competition. nuf said

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lol I want to see Bisbing get KOed again, I used to think the guy was pretty cool on the ultimate fighter but the more and more he opens his mouth the more I want to see his cheap **** get KOed again like against Henderson, can we have a Anderson Silva vs Bisbing exhibition fight just for fun? lol to bad...

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to be honest' date=' i am a little bit annoyed at the card for the ufc's event in London. they have basically put some brits on there and expected us all to go crazy. this could be the reason that they are struggling to sell tickets for the event. maybe a good fight which will mean something such as a potential tittle match eliminator would have been needed??[/quote']

 

Watch your ****ty British Fighters and be happy about it. No one wants to watch Bisping or Winner or Hardy fight here.

 

Hathaway is looking good though. Hopefully, he can bring British MMA up to the Top Tier cause right now you guys are all on the B Team

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i woudnt say all on the b team. theres make a serious comment rather than a childish comment like that. bisping has lost his way a little bit recently but still has the talent, hardy is a top contender who lasted the five rounds with GSP. more than anyone seems to have done recently, ross pearson is a good up and comer and so is hathaway. Even daley, if he was still in the ufc he would be considered a top contender

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Main reason I didn't buy any tickets, they could have at least had one or two high profile fighters on the card. Doubtful I'll even watch it on TV, despite being from the UK I can't stand Bisping. Only Hardy and Hathaway are worth watching in my opinion, but even then, they aren't big enough names to headline. Dana threw us a bone, big deal... I know I'm not the only Brit MMA fan to say that we been short-changed, there's loads of us who aren't happy at all with the card.

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Main reason I didn't buy any tickets' date=' they could have at least had one or two high profile fighters on the card. Doubtful I'll even watch it on TV, despite being from the UK I can't stand Bisping. Only Hardy and Hathaway are worth watching in my opinion, but even then, they aren't big enough names to headline. Dana threw us a bone, big deal... I know I'm not the only Brit MMA fan to say that we been short-changed, there's loads of us who aren't happy at all with the card.[/quote']

 

amen

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To be honest I cant wait to go and see 120 and Im sick of the majority of the guys on this forum moaning about the card. Sure there are no superstars on the card but would you rather watch GSP lay n pray for 25 mins or watch Bisping, Hardy and co battle it out in what look like some pretty awesome match ups stylistically?

 

I know the reason why Ive shelled out over ?200 for tickets and that is to be entertained and not to stargaze!

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Watch your ****ty British Fighters and be happy about it. No one wants to watch Bisping or Winner or Hardy fight here.

 

Hathaway is looking good though. Hopefully' date=' he can bring British MMA up to the Top Tier cause right now you guys are all on the B Team[/quote']

 

Who won uk v USA tuf? Muppet!

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Watch your ****ty British Fighters and be happy about it. No one wants to watch Bisping or Winner or Hardy fight here.

 

Hathaway is looking good though. Hopefully' date=' he can bring British MMA up to the Top Tier cause right now you guys are all on the B Team[/quote']

 

...Winners last fight was in america and guess what? A boring american tried to rape him and hugged his leg the whole fight.

Bispings last fight was in america, and Hardys last fight was in Canada.

Also because you are extremely ignorant you probly don't realise that Bisping and Hardy are actually fan favourates most places they go. Silly redneck.

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To be honest I cant wait to go and see 120 and Im sick of the majority of the guys on this forum moaning about the card. Sure there are no superstars on the card but would you rather watch GSP lay n pray for 25 mins or watch Bisping' date=' Hardy and co battle it out in what look like some pretty awesome match ups stylistically?

 

I know the reason why Ive shelled out over ?200 for tickets and that is to be entertained and not to stargaze![/quote']

 

yeah i agree that i have payed a lot of money and also cant wait to go and see it but its almost like danas thought just put a card on in the uk to keep them happy rahter than put a good card on

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The card is free my friend!:cool:
Its not free in the uk.

 

This card could have some awesome fights and i hope it does. But i do know were a lot of the other lads from UK are coming from, when Dana was first trying to make it big over here he put on some class fights we had Rampage Vs Hendo on over here don't forget, but now he has broken the market over here the cards have become less and less big name wise.

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I was gonna attend but no way is Dana getting my money for this crap.

UFC is supposed to have the best fighters in the world but 6 or 7 of these fighters are making their debuts and I havn't even heard of them, I swear Dana has signed these guys just for this event.

It might have great fights but then again so does my local promotion which costs far less to attend and is not at the other end of the country.

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