gee_sus Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Granted his cardio is quite good, i think it is a bit overrated. i just watched Cain vs. Kongo, and Vs. Rothwell. alot of people are confusing Cain's cardio with the fact that the people he has fought especially Kongo didn't really put up much of a fight on the ground other than trying to get up. Cain kept moving but you can clearly see that Cain's punches had nothing on them, and i don't think he is a Pillow Fists either, When he fought Kongo the middle of the second round and the entire third round Cain's mouth was open and he was breathing really deep. When Cain knocked out Big Nog it was early round 1 he has power but his power diminishes with every passing minute, he may not punch himself out but Brock can easily survive Cain's ground and pound. I am a fan of Cain and Brock but after watching Cain's fights again, i feel there is no way Cain can compete with Brock's wrestling, Rothwell sucks on the ground and he was able to get up a bunch of times. Knogo isn't very good on the ground either, and was able to survive, although he did get hit in the head 251 times. I just don't see Cain pulling this off. Everyone has their opinion so feel free to voice yours, if you agree cool, if not explain i would like to hear your thoughts, but if you are going to start bashing because of my opinion, then it's obvious that you are just a Brock hater, and are dying for him to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eselockster Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Granted his cardio is quite good' date=' i think it is a bit overrated.i just watched Cain vs. Kongo, and Vs. Rothwell. alot of people are confusing Cain's cardio with the fact that the people he has fought especially Kongo didn't really put up much of a fight on the ground other than trying to get up. Cain kept moving but you can clearly see that Cain's punches had nothing on them, and i don't think he is a Pillow Fists either, When he fought Kongo the middle of the second round and the entire third round Cain's mouth was open and he was breathing really deep. When Cain knocked out Big Nog it was early round 1 he has power but his power diminishes with every passing minute, he may not punch himself out but Brock can easily survive Cain's ground and pound. I am a fan of Cain and Brock but after watching Cain's fights again, i feel there is no way Cain can compete with Brock's wrestling, Rothwell sucks on the ground and he was able to get up a bunch of times. Knogo isn't very good on the ground either, and was able to survive, although he did get hit in the head 251 times. I just don't see Cain pulling this off. Everyone has their opinion so feel free to voice yours, if you agree cool, if not explain i would like to hear your thoughts, but if you are going to start bashing because of my opinion, then it's obvious that you are just a Brock hater, and are dying for him to lose.[/quote'] in my opinion he was trying to control kongo and rothwell rather than go crazy and throw power punches to where it could make him lose position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmorrow10 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 its gonna be a lot better then brocks though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brsenk Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 its gonna be a lot better then brocks though To me its whoever stays on top will have the better cardio (during the fight). We have seen brock on his back (against carwin) nearly the entire round. Granted it was the first round and he covered up (defended rather well and Carwin was gassing) but brock still seemed rather fresh (guess balling up fetus style saves energy). I haven't seen or remeber Cain on his back so will be interesting to see how his guard is and how much energy he will exert defending the tko or submission. Going to be a great fight...Im stoked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAD0K3N Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Granted his cardio is quite good' date=' i think it is a bit overrated.i just watched Cain vs. Kongo, and Vs. Rothwell. alot of people are confusing Cain's cardio with the fact that the people he has fought especially Kongo didn't really put up much of a fight on the ground other than trying to get up. Cain kept moving but you can clearly see that Cain's punches had nothing on them, and i don't think he is a Pillow Fists either, When he fought Kongo the middle of the second round and the entire third round Cain's mouth was open and he was breathing really deep. When Cain knocked out Big Nog it was early round 1 he has power but his power diminishes with every passing minute, he may not punch himself out but Brock can easily survive Cain's ground and pound. I am a fan of Cain and Brock but after watching Cain's fights again, i feel there is no way Cain can compete with Brock's wrestling, Rothwell sucks on the ground and he was able to get up a bunch of times. Knogo isn't very good on the ground either, and was able to survive, although he did get hit in the head 251 times. I just don't see Cain pulling this off. Everyone has their opinion so feel free to voice yours, if you agree cool, if not explain i would like to hear your thoughts, but if you are going to start bashing because of my opinion, then it's obvious that you are just a Brock hater, and are dying for him to lose.[/quote'] is this substatiated knowledge or just your opinion from your arm chair ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMAEars Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 If Cain's trainers have any brains at all, they will be planning to use kicks against Lesnar's legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCITOLDUSO Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Granted his cardio is quite good' date=' i think it is a bit overrated.i just watched Cain vs. Kongo, and Vs. Rothwell. alot of people are confusing Cain's cardio with the fact that the people he has fought especially Kongo didn't really put up much of a fight on the ground other than trying to get up. Cain kept moving but you can clearly see that Cain's punches had nothing on them, and i don't think he is a Pillow Fists either, When he fought Kongo the middle of the second round and the entire third round Cain's mouth was open and he was breathing really deep. When Cain knocked out Big Nog it was early round 1 he has power but his power diminishes with every passing minute, he may not punch himself out but Brock can easily survive Cain's ground and pound. I am a fan of Cain and Brock but after watching Cain's fights again, i feel there is no way Cain can compete with Brock's wrestling, Rothwell sucks on the ground and he was able to get up a bunch of times. Knogo isn't very good on the ground either, and was able to survive, although he did get hit in the head 251 times. I just don't see Cain pulling this off. Everyone has their opinion so feel free to voice yours, if you agree cool, if not explain i would like to hear your thoughts, but if you are going to start bashing because of my opinion, then it's obvious that you are just a Brock hater, and are dying for him to lose.[/quote'] Good observation. Cain's only hope is to connect on Lesnar's chin early on. He will lose a wrestling match with Lesnar. is this substatiated knowledge or just your opinion from your arm chair ? Substantiated knowledge? Dude, it's his observation, followed up with his opinion. He's not revealing top-secret info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwGSP Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 If Cain's trainers have any brains at all' date=' they will be planning to use kicks against Lesnar's legs.[/quote'] I kind of agree, but every time you lift a leg your susceptible to a take down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
res0 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 I don't see Cain doing many if any kicks in this fight unless his plan is to be on his back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarberBeefcake Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 its gonna be a lot better then brocks though ??????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajeitto Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 If Cain has to spend any significant amount of time under Brock his stamina will go away quickly, if Brock can get Cain down and keep him down then the fight is over for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee_sus Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 is this substatiated knowledge or just your opinion from your arm chair ? In my post i clearly state several times that this is my OPINION,and that "I" don't see cain winning, and that i wanted to hear the OPINION of others! next time read the words that are written before being a ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinosaur Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 If Cain's trainers have any brains at all' date=' they will be planning to use kicks against Lesnar's legs.[/quote'] no. if he does that he'll get taken right down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verJJ Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Even Gilbert Yvel couldn't put Rothwell away and dude has like 30 KO victories in MMA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot_Act101 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Even Gilbert Yvel couldn't put Rothwell away and dude has like 30 KO victories in MMA good point, but i guess we will have to wait until saturday to see how good cains cardio really is, cause lesnar will surely make this quite an exhausting fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmctaggart08 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 This fight won't happen soon enough like **** I have been waiting forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlebright Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 I don't see Cain doing many if any kicks in this fight unless his plan is to be on his back True, if he just stands there and fires off isolated kicks. But if he tacks kicks onto the end of punch combinations Brock will be too busy defending the punches to be able to take Cain down. I think we'll see lots of kicks from Cain in this fight, especially in the later rounds when Brock is tiring and his shot isn't as fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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