Pessimist_Pete Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 I hate to burst his bubble, but if Cain was born in the US, then he is Mexican-American. He isn't Mexican, unless he was born in Mexico. I think what they are trying to emphasize is that he is Hispanic. Also, as someone else astutely pointed out: Ricco Rodriguez (of Puerto Rican and Mexican decent) has already held the UFC Heavyweight Title. So, to recap...Cain isnt "Mexican" and Ricco has already held the title. Come on UFC storyline writers - get your stuff together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltrane Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 lol +1!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarberBeefcake Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 the cain hype is gonna go away quickly so don't worry about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eselockster Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 hes mexican get over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 I hate to burst his bubble' date=' but if Cain was born in the US, then he is Mexican-American. He isn't Mexican, unless he was born in Mexico. I think what they are trying to emphasize is that he is Hispanic. Also, as someone else astutely pointed out: Ricco Rodriguez (of Puerto Rican and Mexican decent) has already held the UFC Heavyweight Title. So, to recap...Cain isnt "Mexican" and Ricco has already held the title. Come on UFC storyline writers - get your stuff together.[/quote'] Well said Petey . +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongman Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 shogun is mexican and hes the champ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJKid Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 I told everyone he was the smartest person on the forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 I told everyone he was the smartest person on the forum... Did everyone listen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJKid Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Did everyone listen? I Doubt it. But nevertheless Pete FTW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raps43 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 the cain hype is gonna go away quickly so don't worry about it +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leatherfac3 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 I hate to burst his bubble' date=' but if Cain was born in the US, then he is Mexican-American. He isn't Mexican, unless he was born in Mexico. I think what they are trying to emphasize is that he is Hispanic. Also, as someone else astutely pointed out: Ricco Rodriguez (of Puerto Rican and Mexican decent) has already held the UFC Heavyweight Title. So, to recap...Cain isnt "Mexican" and Ricco has already held the title. Come on UFC storyline writers - get your stuff together.[/quote'] Good post. I wish the thousands of American plastic paddys' would get this into their heads also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymore831406051745 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 I hate to burst his bubble' date=' but if Cain was born in the US, then he is Mexican-American. He isn't Mexican, unless he was born in Mexico. I think what they are trying to emphasize is that he is Hispanic. Also, as someone else astutely pointed out: Ricco Rodriguez (of Puerto Rican and Mexican decent) has already held the UFC Heavyweight Title. So, to recap...Cain isnt "Mexican" and Ricco has already held the title. Come on UFC storyline writers - get your stuff together.[/quote'] HAHHA, can't argue that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antmanx Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 I hate to burst his bubble' date=' but if Cain was born in the US, then he is Mexican-American. He isn't Mexican, unless he was born in Mexico. I think what they are trying to emphasize is that he is Hispanic. Also, as someone else astutely pointed out: Ricco Rodriguez (of Puerto Rican and Mexican decent) has already held the UFC Heavyweight Title. So, to recap...Cain isnt "Mexican" and Ricco has already held the title. Come on UFC storyline writers - get your stuff together.[/quote'] Good call... I forgot about Ricco. Someone email everyone at UFC HQ and tell them to stop all of their stupid "US vs Mexico" promo's. Just let them fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro21 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 About damn time someone says it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pessimist_Pete Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Ricco FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaki_man Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Actually he's Latin-American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 Actually he's Latin-American. Not Spanish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaki_man Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 Not Spanish? No. He would have to be from Spain. You guys are confusing nationality with race. He could also be called Hispanic American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rain_wizard Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 Cain has Mexican parents. Cain IS Mexican! He could be born on the moon but the fact is he is Mexican. So he is called Mexican American because he was born in America, that means nothing tbh. He has a Mexican mum and a Mexican Dad. This makes Cain............AMERICAN!!!! ooops, sorry got it wrong, MEXICAN!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbrahams Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 sean sherk was the champ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 No. He would have to be from Spain. You guys are confusing nationality with race. He could also be called Hispanic American. Im Australian. Whats so confusing about that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBottery Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 I love all the white kids from the suburbs on these forums talking about what it actually is to be Mexican. The guy grew up with two parents straight from Mexico in an area highly populated with Mexicans. Yes, technically he is Mexican-American, no one is denying he it, but you are all kinda ignoring the "Mexican" part of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
res0 Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 The heritage to be proud of would be Spanish even though the lost many ships at least they discovered American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSmith99 Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 Cain has Mexican parents. Cain IS Mexican! He could be born on the moon but the fact is he is Mexican. So he is called Mexican American because he was born in America' date=' that means nothing tbh. He has a Mexican mum and a Mexican Dad. This makes Cain............AMERICAN!!!! ooops, sorry got it wrong, [b']MEXICAN!!!!!!![/b] This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uedamasa Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 Cain was born and raised in the US therefore he's American...simple as that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTech Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 Mexican Americans - Cheech and Chong Mexican Americans don't like to just get into gang fights, they like flowers and music and white girls named Debbie too. Mexican Americans are named Chata and Chella and chemma and have a son in law named jeff. Mexican Americans don't like to get up early in the morning but they have to so they do it real slow. Mexican Americans love education so they go to night school and take spanish and get a B. Mexican Americans love their Nana's and their Nono's and their Nina's and their Nino's........ Nano Nano Nina Nono! Mexican Americans don't like to go to the movies where the dude has to wear contact lenses to make his blue eyes brown cause don't it make my brown eyes blue..... "And thats all i got, how do ya like it?" *phone rings* Mexican Americans like to answer telephone calls and say hello to whoever's on the other end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nizmo270r Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 Cain is Mexican The proof is here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoToGuy Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 Wow, who cares. He's Mexican American. /Thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCITOLDUSO Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 the cain hype is gonna go away quickly so don't worry about it As long as there are millions of illegal Mexicans scurrying around with US dollars, the hype train will continue to chug full steam ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkiraMoa Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 He's so Mexican he sh!ts sombreros. If he repeats enough you'll believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab665 Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 if cain was born in america from germans who imigrated here, would we even be having this conversation? also im sure that if this were the olympics, cain would be on team USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenpo Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 I hate to burst his bubble' date=' but if Cain was born in the US, then he is Mexican-American. He isn't Mexican, unless he was born in Mexico. I think what they are trying to emphasize is that he is Hispanic. Also, as someone else astutely pointed out: Ricco Rodriguez (of Puerto Rican and Mexican decent) has already held the UFC Heavyweight Title. So, to recap...Cain isnt "Mexican" and Ricco has already held the title. Come on UFC storyline writers - get your stuff together.[/quote'] Well Cain seems to identify himself with that culture. If his family came from Mexico and still has strong roots there then he would know best which culture he identifies with most. I know technically/legally he would be American if he was born here but I would want to be the guy to tell Cain that he ain't Mexican.:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTASlexii Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 His parents are mexican therefore he is mexican. He was born in America but his roots are Mexican. Why do people care so much to tell him who he is and who he isn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacon2caraperez Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 Cain has two parents who are both Hispanic and both are of Mexican descent. Therefore he is Mexican. True he was born and raised in the USA, but his blood line is that of Mexican descent. Citizenship of a country and where you're blood line descends from are two completly different things. Stop confusing the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenpo Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 His parents are mexican therefore he is mexican. He was born in America but his roots are Mexican. Why do people care so much to tell him who he is and who he isn't Thank you! I just couldn't manage to say it with only a few words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlebright Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 if cain was born in america from germans who imigrated here' date=' would we even be having this conversation? also im sure that if this were the olympics, cain would be on team USA.[/quote'] That would depend on his citizenship status. I'm assuming he has US citizenship since he was born there but having Mexican parents means he could have Mexican citizenship as well (assuming you can have dual US/Mexican citizenship?). That would allow him to compete for either country. However, once you compete for a country in the Olympics that is the only one you can ever compete for. Brett Hull has dual US/Canadian citizenship and ended up playing for the US in Olympic hockey as he tried out for the Canadian squad but didn't make it. He vastly improved as a player later in his career but by then Canada had lost out and he was never able to compete for Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yerbo Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 hes mexican get over it A Mexican is a citizen of Mexico and I would go so far as to say that a Mexican is also someone born in Mexico of Mexican parents. And since Mexican is not a race (nor is Hispanic) he can't consider himself Mexican via genetics, ancestry or anything else except maybe culturally, but all that means is he has Mexican heritage, which is not enough to say he is Mexican. I am a French citizen but not born in France and not of French parents so while I am a French citizen I do no consider myself as French. Besides, home is where the heart is and I'm pretty sure his home and heart are in the USA. This is all just a cynical attempt to cash in on the Mexican market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yerbo Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 No. He would have to be from Spain. You guys are confusing nationality with race. He could also be called Hispanic American. Latin American is not a race, nor is Hispanic. There are only 3 races and these are not amongst them. Latin American denotes the area one comes from, Hispanic denotes the ethnicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yerbo Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 Cain has Mexican parents. Cain IS Mexican! He could be born on the moon but the fact is he is Mexican. So he is called Mexican American because he was born in America' date=' that means nothing tbh. He has a Mexican mum and a Mexican Dad. This makes Cain............AMERICAN!!!! ooops, sorry got it wrong, [b']MEXICAN!!!!!!![/b] Wrong, it means he is of Mexican heritage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenpo Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 The phrase "Mexican Champion" is not referring to another belt. It's a markeing slogan to lure people of Mexico and other Latin lineage to watch the figh.The UFC does not give a Mexican or American Title. It's the UFC title...period. Cain is however in a position to be a positive influence and an inspiration to those who share his national heritage. Mexican fans love him and Cain is striving to be a great role model. He's a class act. Not sure what the problem is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacon2caraperez Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 A Mexican is a citizen of Mexico and I would go so far as to say that a Mexican is also someone born in Mexico of Mexican parents. And since Mexican is not a race (nor is Hispanic) he can't consider himself Mexican via genetics' date=' ancestry or anything else except maybe culturally, but all that means is he has Mexican heritage, which is not enough to say he is Mexican. I am a French citizen but not born in France and not of French parents so while I am a French citizen I do no consider myself as French. Besides, home is where the heart is and I'm pretty sure his home and heart are in the USA. This is all just a cynical attempt to cash in on the Mexican market.[/quote'] Once again, you're putting far to much emphasis on citizenship and being politically accurate. Which is all BS imo. I've never understood how Hispanic people can't be a "Race" or "Ethnicity". If that's the case, then what are Hispanics? Animals? I mean come on, that's ridiculous. I can't stand people who are obsessed with being politcally correct abouty stuff like this. It's annoying. To be Mexican (just like to be African, or Italian, or Russian, or Puerto Rican, or whatever the case may be) means you have mexican parents or mexican blood in you're veins. You don't have to be born in Italy or a citizen of Italy. If both you're parents are Italian then you're bloodline is Italian. Making you...guess what...ITALIAN! And the same applies to everyone else. My Dad is Puerto Rican and my mom is Panamian. I was born in Panama on a military base and my father is an American citizen being from Puerto Rico. So if you ask me what country I'm a citizen of I'm gonna say American. But if you ask me where I'm from or what I am, I'm gonna say Hispanic/Puerto Rican/Panama. And if Cain's home and heart are in the USA then why is he boasting about doing this for all the Latinos in this country? Clearly, you don't know what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenpo Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 Latin American is not a race' date=' nor is Hispanic. There are only 3 races and these are not amongst them. Latin American denotes the area one comes from, Hispanic denotes the ethnicity.[/quote'] 3 races..is this from Hitler's Encyclopedia? The US Census form has like 10 choices for race and a box for "other". White Black and Yellow are not all the races. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTech Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 And if Cain's home and heart are in the USA then why is he boasting about doing this for all the Latinos in this country? Clearly' date=' you don't know what you're talking about.[/quote'] Really?? The UFC picked this year to target the hispanics. They started broadcasting in spanish and have been spoonfeeding Cain along the road to his title shot for awhile now. He is boasting so much about doing this for the Latino's because thats how the UFC is marketing this matchup. Hes a poster boy for a demographic, Cain "the mexican bisping" Velasquez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtCroz Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 Cain is named after a murderer in the bible and a stimulant from Colombia, so perhaps he should be ashamed of his roots not proud of them. If you have issue with this, take it up with this guy. http://www.cbaofthepines.org/cat%20helmet.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBottery Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 Guys guys guys, this is just common sense. It's like how black people born in the US aren't actually black, because they were born here, they are American. Sheesh it's common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTech Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 Guys guys guys' date=' this is just common sense. It's like how black people born in the US aren't actually [b']african[/b], because they were born here, they are American. Sheesh it's common sense. Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBottery Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 Fixed nope. made worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTech Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 nope. made worse. I didnt hear anyone say Cain wasnt brown... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rain_wizard Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 For the Politically Correct: Mexican American For the people who aren't blind folded........ MEXICAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikmania Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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