Dan_Hardy_ Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 MMBB: Speaking of B.J., after seeing him get dominated twice Vs. Frankie Edgar, do you think it?s time for a change in training or teams for Penn? Bas: I truly believe so, I open a new gym and gonna spend a lot of time there. I am open to have BJ there, I am 100 % sure I can make him even better, he learns fast and I see a lot of stuff he can work on. http://www.mondaymorningblackbelt.com/?p=818 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guesswho Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Bj Penn wasnt dominated. He lost 2 decisions in which he was never stunned, dropped, threatened, near submitted. He pretty much chased an agile athlete for 50 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeformedGravy Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Bj Penn wasnt dominated. He lost 2 decisions in which he was never stunned' date=' dropped, threatened, near submitted. He pretty much chased an agile athlete for 50 minutes[/quote'] Penn did nothing TWICE, I'd say he was dominated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labyrinthic Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Bj Penn wasnt dominated. He lost 2 decisions in which he was never stunned' date=' dropped, threatened, near submitted. He pretty much chased an agile athlete for 50 minutes[/quote'] The second fight..BJ was dominanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePredictor Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 He didn't get dominated. He got beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popmaster502 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 i say he got dominated it was kinda hard to watch haha the second fight was an easy 49-46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guesswho Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 He didn't get dominated. He got beat. Yes. Everything Frankie Edgar did was for a decision win. His fighting skills lack.....fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTerribleWilliamson Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 I love how BJ ****boys will go to any length to diminish his losses Face the facts, your boys best days are behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guesswho Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 I love how BJ ****boys will go to any length to diminish his losses Face the facts' date=' your boys best days are behind him.[/quote'] Maybe your right but Bj Penn's prime is already HOF and he has had more exciting and challenging fights than Frankie Edgar with his 90% decision win record vs guys that arent even close to the rockstars Bj Penn has fought. Bj Penn stabilized the LW division and Frankie Edgar will unstablize it becuase he isnt going to be champ very long. Bj Penn said it best, Frankie has coaches that have me read to the que and really this fight is me vs. Frankie's coach. I reported you for your language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonesbonesbones Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 He needs about a hundred less yes men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhet Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Bj Penn wasnt dominated. He lost 2 decisions in which he was never stunned' date=' dropped, threatened, near submitted. He pretty much chased an agile athlete for 50 minutes[/quote']Yeah, he chased him like a man with a stick chasing a tank. BJ didn't look like he was able to threaten Edgar with anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guesswho Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Yeah' date=' he chased him like a man with a stick chasing a tank. BJ didn't look like he was able to threaten Edgar with anything.[/quote'] You are correct. Reminded me of tito/machida without the liver kick or triangle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonesbonesbones Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Bj Penn wasnt dominated. He lost 2 decisions in which he was never stunned' date=' dropped, threatened, near submitted. He pretty much chased an agile athlete for 50 minutes[/quote'] He wasnt dominated in the first fight but he was in the second fight. I am a huge Baby Jay fan but at least I can admit when he is outclassed in a fight and he was in Edgar/Penn 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobilator Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 BJ never gonna get beter in is weak camp with is brother who dont challenge him in training . He surround by yes man and they make him have a bad attitude for the sport in general . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benni Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Maybe your right but Bj Penn's prime is already HOF and he has had more exciting and challenging fights than Frankie Edgar with his 90% decision win record vs guys that arent even close to the rockstars Bj Penn has fought. Bj Penn stabilized the LW division and Frankie Edgar will unstablize it becuase he isnt going to be champ very long. Bj Penn said it best' date=' Frankie has coaches that have me read to the que and really this fight is me vs. Frankie's coach. I reported you for your language.[/quote'] HAHA you got that pissed! You had to report him! I pitty people like you, seriously why defend BJ so much, you are just some random dude on the internet. Btw BJ Penn did get dominated by Frankie Edgar. YOU MAD I just had to write it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck42 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 In the first fight BJ landed more strikes and was only TD once IN the second fight Edgar landed more strikes and again had only one TD more than BJ. If you combine both fights BJ landed more significant strikes whereas Edgar landed more insignficant strikes. TD were 4-2 combined fights. The first fight BJ controlled the fight and should have won the fight hence the immeidate rematch. the second fight BJ was outclassed. ALthough he didnt take any damage there was a huge difference in striking and pace. IMO BJ is teh better fighter however he does need some new leadership that can convince him of using a gameplan rather than just counter striking the whole fight. If Bj used his amazing Boxing to set up his even better grappling every fight would be Tapout or KO. Right now BJ just wants to KO everyone and doesnt take advantage of his superior BJJ. He has the opposite mindset of GSP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0verrated Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Bj Penn wasnt dominated. He lost 2 decisions in which he was never stunned' date=' dropped, threatened, near submitted. He pretty much chased an agile athlete for 50 minutes[/quote']He was completely dominated. Bj lost all 10 rounds easily. Bj was outclassed by the champion Frankie Edgar!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portorockxxl Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Bj Penn wasnt dominated. He lost 2 decisions in which he was never stunned' date=' dropped, threatened, near submitted. He pretty much chased an agile athlete for 50 minutes[/quote'] the first time i did'nt agree with the decision to me B.J won that one , but in the second fight B.J got totally dominated dont know what u were watching dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcapp123 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 terriblewilliamson biggest Penn hater ever.... Penn is a LW legend and is moving up in weight to fight another legend in Hughes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StompGrind Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Even if he trained with Bas what would Bas add to Penn, Better conditioning no doubt, Implementing more kicks into his game. All due respect to Bas but that's not enough. He needs more speed, footwork and actually setting up takedowns off of his strikes. He needs to mix it up more and have the cardio to push the pace to break people. He also needs better training partners and a whole new camp that can come up with better strategies and good advise for in fight adjustments. I think he should take up the Blackhouse offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambo91 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 He was completely dominated. Bj lost all 10 rounds easily. Bj was outclassed by the champion Frankie Edgar!!!! all 10 rounds? no way, he lost 7 i'd say, maybe 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guesswho Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 the first time i did'nt agree with the decision to me B.J won that one ' date=' but in the second fight B.J got totally dominated dont know what u were watching dude[/quote'] Bj Penn was never, Dropped, Stunned, Threatened, near submitted, or anything that would involve a finish. If you can show me even a split second where Bj was in danger of being finished then i rescind what i say. The truth is Frankie had Bj's number and was able to win 2 decisions. Some people might say that its harder for LW's to finish fights but that is untrue. Bj is proof of this and so are many fighters in the LW division. Frankie has so many decision wins under his belt that it is difficult to guess if he will have any exciting fights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonesbonesbones Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 He was completely dominated. Bj lost all 10 rounds easily. Bj was outclassed by the champion Frankie Edgar!!!! Someone is clearly a hater who doesnt understand fighting and scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_murder Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 as with every bj penn loss he was far more talented than his opponent frank did a standing lay and pray (im not sure what u call it) but he pretty much just stayed out of range and did just enough to win in terms of points but edgar had zero chance of finishing penn. that being said just like anyone who wins by lay and pray frank did deserve to win and bj has no one to blame but himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglebird Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 same haters throwing their dirty pennies (2 cents) in any BJ Penn thread good to see different fans/supporters though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentson Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Penn needs to change his camp for sure, his cardio is good now but he looked like he didn't care in his last two fights. Win or lose Penn needs to at least look like he wants to be there vs Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nando_G Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 BJ was not dominated. He just never came to fight in the second one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yerbo Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Bj Penn wasnt dominated. He lost 2 decisions in which he was never stunned' date=' dropped, threatened, near submitted. He pretty much chased an agile athlete for 50 minutes[/quote'] While getting peppered with punches and kicks, taken down and all while showing zero offense of his own. ie: he was dominated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCADDICTED Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Bj is super tough but i think he needs to alter & change up his gameplans, 2 be more unpredictable when his tools aint working in the first or second round, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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