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After the way Shields dominated Henderson, it's obvious he's gonna destroy GSP.

Anyway - if he does - should he move up a weightclass and fight Anderson Silva?

With his great bjj skills - far better than those of Sonnen - he would be a great threat for the spider. And we know Silva doesn't like wrestling based grapplers.

He fought at MW already so he might eventually go up.

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After the way Shields dominated Henderson' date=' it's obvious he's gonna destroy GSP.

Anyway - if he does - should he move up a weightclass and fight Anderson Silva?

With his great bjj skills - far better than those of Sonnen - he would be a great threat for the spider. And we know Silva doesn't like wrestling based grapplers.

He fought at MW already so he might eventually go up.[/quote']

 

Shields won't beat GSP or Anderson. Both will destroy him.

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Shields won't beat GSP or Anderson. Both will destroy him.

 

Not sure how you can say that after watching the Sonnen fight. Shields submission grappling isnt even comparable to Sonnens, in a different league.

 

He also walked through a Hendo hook and took him down, hes got an amazing chin.

 

I think he would submit AS.

 

GSP however... I think he has the TDD to keep it standing and would beat him on the feet.

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Not sure how you can say that after watching the Sonnen fight. Shields submission grappling isnt even comparable to Sonnens' date=' in a different league.

 

He also walked through a Hendo hook and took him down, hes got an amazing chin.

 

I think he would submit AS.

 

GSP however... I think he has the TDD to keep it standing and would beat him on the feet.[/quote']

 

Shields won't sub Anderson and in a 5 rounder Anderson will knock him out at some point. Just a matter of time.

 

I respect Shields skills but he'll be lucky to make it past Kampmann.

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lol getting a chubby looking at George' date=' josh?[/quote']

 

Not at all, I am thinking of the Emergency Room overload all across Canada as the result of a few million Canadian fans wanking themselves into comas after seeing theobject of their man-love naked.

 

The thought actually makes me throw up in my mouth a little.

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Shields won't sub Anderson and in a 5 rounder Anderson will knock him out at some point. Just a matter of time.

 

I respect Shields skills but he'll be lucky to make it past Kampmann.

 

Yes, because he knocked out Sonnen the way everyone thought he would...

 

To say definitively that Shields wont sub him is ridiculous.

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Honestly I can see Shields Beating GSP, their skillsets basically nullify each other and that would put GSP in a spot he has not been in very often, only twice that I can remember, and he folded and tapped.

 

But Shields plodding forward wrestling style plays into Silva's perfectly, I honestly couldn't see Jake making it past one round.

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Honestly I can see Shields Beating GSP' date=' their skillsets basically nullify each other and that would put GSP in a spot he has not been in very often, only twice that I can remember, and he folded and tapped.

 

But Shields plodding forward wrestling style plays into Silva's perfectly, I honestly couldn't see Jake making it past one round.[/quote']

 

I disagree whole heartedly on Shields vs GSP. GSP is better at Shields in every area. And even if they were close GSP is a better athlete and would out work Shields. I don't think Shields could last 5 rounds with GSP without gassing even half way through

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Shields is too robotic to do it.

 

Maybe. His shot is pretty fast and his standup is getting smoother. If he can manage to clinch without getting tooled first I believe he'll take him down.

 

It won't be easy getting in there though especially without taking damage and I see the fight going much like Silva vs. Maia sadly.

 

Except at one point I expect Anderson to pick it up and really start picking him apart from the outside and Shields getting desperate and getting caught badly.

 

Thats pretty much how I see it playing out.

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Shields won't even get Anderson down.

 

Sonnen has the best applicable wrestling at MW

 

I dont know how the hell you have earned any respect on here. I always see you saying ridiculous things with nothing to back them up' date=' bashing anyone who disagrees with you and acting like you are some sort of MMA expert and its starting to get really annoying.

 

Sonnen may have the best applicable wrestling at MW, not denying that. He took Silva down with ease though, I didnt see any TDD.

 

When has AS ever shown TDD that would make you think he can stop Shields at all let alone every TD attempt?

 

Do you have [b']anything[/b] to back up this drivel?

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I disagree whole heartedly on Shields vs GSP. GSP is better at Shields in every area. And even if they were close GSP is a better athlete and would out work Shields. I don't think Shields could last 5 rounds with GSP without gassing even half way through

 

More drivel. Shields has far better submission grappling, its not even debatable. I think GSP has the TDD to stop him from implementing it but to say that GSP is better in every area is ****ing clueless.

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Shields would get annihilated against Anderson. He is a little small for mw imo anyways. He has a much better chance against Gsp.

 

I see him getting annihilated by GSP too. I actually think GSP would just stand-up with him and beat him on the feet. He's certainly capable of doing that and nullifying Jake's whole game.

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I dont know how the hell you have earned any respect on here. I always see you saying ridiculous things with nothing to back them up' date=' bashing anyone who disagrees with you and acting like you are some sort of MMA expert and its starting to get really annoying.

 

Sonnen may have the best applicable wrestling at MW, not denying that. He took Silva down with ease though, I didnt see any TDD.

 

When has AS ever shown TDD that would make you think he can stop Shields at all let alone every TD attempt?

 

Do you have [b']anything[/b] to back up this drivel?

 

don't be mad because I'm better then you

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Chael does not apply to Middleweight because he has admitted to juicing. Using that knowledge and some common sense, He has been juicing in past UFC fights also which would put as much pressure on him to take the needle knowing success could get him a title shot. Chael does not apply because steroid use does not apply. You lose your belt and get a suspension for juicing. Chael's success in the middleweight is completely guesswork now.

 

Chael has a history of first round submission lossess and a plentiful round 2 submission lossess. he also has had more than one cut stoppages because his takedowns are slow and heavy, trying to use brute force over technique. You know what else gives brute force? Steroid use. My theory is that he was juiced hard for Anderson and the brute force allowed him to go as far as he did, otherwise he would have been submitted earlier which in itself is weak wrestling.

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If he does I'll laugh because Martin has no real belt ranking and Shields is backing his whole "american jiu jitsu" bs

 

However, with how MAA has transformed over the last couple of years. I think we're going to see alot of submission experts that have never trained BJJ or wrestling as a sport for em self. But trained MAA, meaning that we aint going to see the same amount of belts. Atleast thats what i think...

 

However im no oracle :D

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yet Shields has more decisions then GSP and has fought lesser opponents then GSP

 

Wow how insightful, did you come up with that yourself?

 

Are you trying to disagree and say that GSP has better submissions than Shields or is this just more inane chatter?

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Wow how insightful' date=' did you come up with that yourself?

 

Are you trying to disagree and say that GSP has better submissions than Shields or is this just more inane chatter?[/quote']

 

What I'm saying, since your apparently slow in the head, is that GSP has faced tougher competetion in the UFC thus has less submission wins. If GSP fought the robbie lawler's of the world of course he would submit them too

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However' date=' with how MAA has transformed over the last couple of years. I think we're going to see alot of submission experts that have never trained BJJ or wrestling as a sport for em self. But trained MAA, meaning that we aint going to see the same amount of belts. Atleast thats what i think...

 

However im no oracle :D[/quote']

 

I agree. Matt Hughes is not officially ranked in BJJ yet he submitted Ricardo Almeida, a BJJ black belt.

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But are we to judge Shields on the Hendo win and the other 13(?) nobodies he's beat? I get it that he's good' date=' but he's not GSP good.[/quote']

 

not true.Pure lie.

 

Condit,Daley,Okami,Hendo,pyle who just beat hathaway. seriously not true.And thats just what i remember

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What I'm saying' date=' since your apparently slow in the head, is that GSP has faced tougher competetion in the UFC thus has less submission wins. If GSP fought the robbie lawler's of the world of course he would submit them too[/quote']

 

Ok so what you are saying is that if GSP fought less skilled people he would have a better chance of submitting them.

 

Wow Kang I bow to your knowledge, it takes a real expert to come up with insightful information like that, Im sure no one would have come to that conclusion without you laying it out like that....

 

But the question was:

Do you think that GSP has better submissions than Shields?

 

To carry it further:

 

Do you think GSP could submit Mike Pyle?

 

Do you think Shields would fail to submit Dan Hardy in a 25 minute match?

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However' date=' with how MAA has transformed over the last couple of years. I think we're going to see alot of submission experts that have never trained BJJ or wrestling as a sport for em self. But trained MAA, meaning that we aint going to see the same amount of belts.[/quote']MMA?

 

But you've got a totaly accurate point. Many fighters nowdays just MMA schools, where they are taught everything what belongs in MMA by instructors that are MMA fighters rather than particular martial art specialists.

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not true.Pure lie.

 

Condit' date='Daley,Okami,Hendo,pyle who just beat hathaway. seriously not true.And thats just what i remember[/quote']

 

And do you think any of those people can beat GSP? Nope, so when we're talking about Shields "exposing" GSP and you use fighters who don't have a prayer to beat GSP you are on shaky ground. I suppose I could have worded the "nobodies" accusation better, but then we're just arguing semantics.

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