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A ranking system based on opponents relativeness to their weight class


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DISCLAIMER: This isn't a ranking system of who are the best fighters and i'm not claiming it to be. Please read the below text before commenting.

 

(Since this seems to be confusing some people, here's why the ranks are the way they are. In welterweight Shields, Kampmann and Condit are #1, 2 and 3 because one beat the next who beat the next. It isnt about who the better fighter actually is, this is why GSP is tied for 4th, because you can't trace his wins in the last 2 years to a longer string of wins then the previous 3)

 

 

In a perfect ranking every fighter would have legitimately beaten the person below them in recent time. Of course this will never happen but I wondered what rankings would look like if you ranked them as such, so I devised this for all 5 weight classes.

 

Basically the rules are a fighter can only be ranked one spot higher then the highest ranked person they've beaten in the last 2 years, and the person they beat must be a current fighter in that weight division.

 

I let things slide in some cases, such as counting Jon Jones DQ loss to Matt Hamil as a win and keeping BJ Penn in the lightweight division even though he's fighting under welterweight atm. Also in the case of triangle situations where fighter-A beats fighter-B who beat fighter-C who beat fighter-A, I act like the earliest of the 3 fights never existed, like Sonnen-Marquardt-Maia. The firing of Paul Daley and other people skews with some of the weight classes aswell.

 

Below is the result. It's obviously not an accurate representation of the current rankings, but it does show very well how good and numerous of fights the different weight classes have and how relative, or not relative opponents of some fighters have been in the last 2 years.

 

 

(Also note that I only used the names and fights listed under the weight classes on ufc.com, so some fighters or even fights might be missing. It was just easier that way with so much data to go through. And yes I have alot of spare time.)

 

 

HEAVYWEIGHT

 

1:

Cain Velasquez (Brock Lesnar, Antonio Nogueira, Ben Rothwell, Cheick Kongo)

 

2:

Brock Lesnar (Shane Carwin, Frank Mir)

 

3:

Shane Carwin (Frank Mir)

 

4-5:

Frank Mir (Mirko Cro Cop, Cheick Kongo, Antonio Nogueira)

Junior Dos Santos (Roy Nelson, Gilbery Yvel, Mirko Cro Cop, Stefan Struve)

 

6-7:

Mirko Cro Cop (Patrick Barry, Anthony Perosh)

Roy Nelson (Stefan Struve, Brendan Schaub)

 

8-16:

Sean McCorkle (Mark Hunt)

Matt Mitrione (Joey Beltran)

Cheick Kongo (Antoni Hardonk)

Jon Madsen (Gilbert Yvel)

Ben Rothwell (Gilbert Yvel)

Stefan Struve (Christian Morecraft)

Pat Barry (Antoni Hardonk)

Travis Browne (James McSweeney)

Brendan Schaub (Chris Tushscherer)

 

17-29:

Joey Beltran

Rob Broughton

Heath Herring

Mark Hunt

James McSweeney

Christian Morecraft

Antonio Nogueira

Anthony Perosh

Vinicius Queiroz

Mike Russow

Chris Tushscherer

Gilbert Yvel

Antoni Hardonk

 

 

LIGHT-HEAVYWEIGHT

 

1-3:

Mauricio Rua (Lyoto Machida, Chuck Liddell)

Phil Davis (Alexander Gustafsson)

Ryan Bader (Antonio Nogueira)

 

4-6:

Lyoto Machida (Rashad Evans, Thiago Silva)

Antonio Nogueira (Jason Brilz, Luiz Cane)

Alexander Gustafsson (Cyrille Diabate, Jared Hamman)

 

7-11:

Rashad Evans (Quinton Jackson, Thiago Silva, Forrest Griffin)

Jon Jones (Vladimir Matyushenko, Brandon Vera, Matt Hamill, Stephan Bonnar)

Jason Brilz (Tim Boetsch)

Cyrille Diabate (Luiz Cane)

Randy Couture (Brandon Vera)

 

12-22:

Matt Hamill (Tito Ortiz)

Tim Boetsch (Todd Brown)

Stephan Bonnar (Krzysztof Soszynski)

Luiz Cane (Steve Cantwell)

Rich Franklin (Chuck Liddell)

Forrest Griffin (Tito Ortiz)

Kyle Kingsbury (Jared Hamman)

Vladimir Matyushenko (Igor Pokrajac)

Ricardo Romero (Seth Petruzelli)

James Te Huna (Igor Pokrajac)

Brandon Vera (Krzysztof Soszynski)

 

23-35:

Quinton Jackson

Tom Blackledge

Todd Brown

Steve Cantwell

Jared Hamman

Chuck Liddell

Fabio Maldonado

Stanislav Nedkov

Tito Ortiz

Seth Petruzelli

Igor Pokrajac

Thiago Silva

Krzysztof Soszynski

 

 

MIDDLEWEIGHT

 

1:

Anderson Silva (Chael Sonnon, Damian Maia)

 

2:

Chael Sonnen (Nate Marquardt, Yushin Okami, Dan Miller)

 

3-4:

Wanderlei Silva (Michael Bisbing)

Yushin Okami (Mark Munoz)

 

5-11:

Michael Bisping (Yoshihiro Akiyama, Dan Miller)

Chris Leben (Yoshihiro Akiyama, Aaron Simpson)

CB Dollaway (Joe Doerksen, Goran Reljic)

Gerald Harris (Dave Branch, Mario Miranda)

Nate Marquardt (Rousimar Palhares, Demian Maia)

Mark Munzo (Kendall Grove, Ryan Jensen, Nick Catone)

Nate Quarry (Tim Credeur, Jason MacDonald)

 

12-22:

Yoshihiro Akiyama (Alan Belcher)

Rich Attonito (Rafael Natal)

Dave Branch (Tomasz Drwal)

Chris Camozzi (Dongi Yang)

Tim Credeur (Nick Catone)

Joe Doerksen (Tom Lawlor)

Kendall Grove (Goran Relji)

Demian Maia (Mario Miranda, Dan Miller)

Court McGee (Ryan Jensen, Kris McCray)

Rousimar Palhares (Tomasz Drwal)

Aaron Simpson (Tom Lawlor, Ed Herman)

 

23-41:

Alan Belcher

Victor Belfort

Nick Catone

Tomasz Drwal

Ed Herman

Ryan Jensen

Rob Kimmons

Tom Lawlor

Jason MacDonald

Kris McCray

Dan Miller

Mario Miranda

Rafael Natel

Kyle Kote

Goran Reljic

Allessio Sakara

Brian Stann

Brad Tavares

Dongi Yang

 

 

WELTERWEIGHT

 

1:

Jake Shields (Martin Kampmann)

 

2:

Martin Kampmann (Paulo Thiago, Jacob Volkmann, Carlos Condit)

 

3:

Carlos Condit (Dan Hardy, Rory MacDonald, Jake Ellenberger)

 

4-5:

Georges St-Pierre (Dan Hardy, Thiago Alves)

Jake Ellenberger (John Howard, Mike Pyle)

 

6-7:

Dan Hardy (Mike Swick, Marcus Davis)

Mike Pyle (John Hathaway)

 

8-10:

John Hathaway (Diago Sanchez, Rick Story)

Matt Hughes (Ricardo Almeida, Renzo Gracie, Matt Serra)

Marcus Davis (Chris Lytle)

 

11-14:

Diago Sanchez (Paulo Thiago)

Jon Fitch (Thiago Alves, Mike Pierce, Paulo Thiago)

Ricardo Almeida (Matt Brown)

Chris Lytle (Matt Serra, Matt Brown, Brian Foster)

 

15-22:

John Howard (Daniel Roberts, Dennis Hallman)

Johny Hendricks (Charlie Brenneman, TJ Grant, Amir Sadollah)

Dong Hyun Kim (Amir Sadollah, TJ Grant)

Matthew Riddle (DaMarques Johnson, Greg Soto)

Rick Story (Dustin Hazelett, Nick Osipczak, Brian Foster)

Paulo Thiago (Mike Swick, Jacob Volkmann, Josh Koscheck)

Matt Brown (James Wilks)

Claude Patrick (James Wilks)

 

23-29:

Brian Foster (Forrest Petz)

Josh Koscheck (Anthony Johnson)

Rory MacDonald (Mike Guymon)

Daniel Roberts (Mike Guymon, Forrest Petz)

Amir Sadollah (Phil Baroni)

Greg Soto (Nick Osipczak)

James Wilks (Peter Sobotta, DaMarques Johnson)

 

30-53:

Nick Osipczak

Thiago Alves

Phil Baroni

Charlie Brenneman

Darren Elkins

Renzo Gracie

TJ Grant

Mike Guymon

Dennis Hallman

Dustin Hazelett

Anthony Johnson

DaMarques Johnson

Pascal Krauss

David Mitchell

Karo Parisyan

Forrest Petz

Mike Pierce

Kenny Robertson

Carlos Eduardo Rocha

Matt Serra

Peter Sobotta

Mike Swick

Jacob Volkmann

TJ Walkburger

 

 

LIGHTWEIGHT

 

1:

Frankie Edgar (BJ Penn, Sean Sherk)

 

2-3:

BJ Penn (Kenny Florian)

Gray Maynard (Kenny Florian, Nate Diaz, Jim Miller)

 

4-5:

Kenny Florian (Takanori Gomi, Clay Guida, Joe Stevenson)

George Sotiropoulos (Kurt Pellegrino, Joe Stevenson)

 

6-7:

Clay Guida (Rafael Dos Anjos, Nate Diaz)

Joe Stevenson (Spencer Fisher, Nate Diaz)

 

8:

Nate Diaz (Melvin Guillard)

 

9-10:

Jim Miller (Gleison Tibau, Mark Bocek, Duane Ludwig, Mac Danzig, Matt Wilman)

Melvin Guillard (Jeremy Stephens, Waylon Lowe, Gleison Tibau)

 

11-13:

Sean Sherk (Evan Dunham)

Cole Miller (Ross Pearson)

Gleison Tibau (Jeremy Stephens)

 

14-17:

Jeremy Stephens (Sam Stout, Rafael Dos Anjos)

Evan Dunham (Tyson Griffin)

Takanori Gomi (Tyson Griffin)

Ross Pearson (Dennis Siver, Aaron Riley, Andre Winner)

 

18-20:

Sam Stout (Paul Taylor, Joe Lauzon, Matt Wilman)

Tyson Griffin (Rafael Dos Anjos)

Dennis Siver (Spencer Fisher, Paul Kelly)

 

21-27:

Yves Edwards (John Gunderson)

Rafael Dos Anjos (Terry Etim)

Spencer Fisher (Curt Warburton)

Joe Lauzon (Gabe Ruediger)

Nik Lentz (Andre Winner)

Thiago Tavares (Pat Audinwood)

Matt Wilman (Mac Danzig)

 

28-45:

Pat Audinwood

Edson Barboza

Mark Bocek

Mac Danzig

Terry Etim

Willamy Freire

Paul Kelly

Waylon Lowe

Duane Ludwig

TJ O'Brien

Charles Oliveira

Kurt Pellegrino

Aaron Riley

Gabe Ruediger

Paul Sass

Paul Taylor

Curt Warburton

Andre Winner

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Your rankings make no sense what so ever. GSP is the #4 WW being the current WW Champ and beating Fitch and Alves the consensous #2 and #3 WWs, not to mention Penn and Hardy while Shields is #1 after beating Kampmann? I noticed he is the only current champ you didn;t rank as #1 in his weight class. Sensing a bias.

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LIGHT-HEAVYWEIGHT

 

1-3:

Mauricio Rua (Lyoto Machida, Chuck Liddell)

Phil Davis (Alexander Gustafsson)

Ryan Bader (Antonio Nogueira)

 

4-6:

Lyoto Machida (Rashad Evans, Thiago Silva)

Antonio Nogueira (Jason Brilz, Luiz Cane)

Alexander Gustafsson (Cyrille Diabate, Jared Hamman)

 

7-11:

Rashad Evans (Quinton Jackson, Thiago Silva, Forrest Griffin)

Jon Jones (Vladimir Matyushenko, Brandon Vera, Matt Hamill, Stephan Bonnar)

Jason Brilz (Tim Boetsch)

Cyrille Diabate (Luiz Cane)

Randy Couture (Brandon Vera)

 

So for beating Machida and Liddell, Shogun gets the #1 spot.. Yet Machida, who beat Shogun, is somehow at #4.. behind Phil Davis (WTF?!!!!) and Ryan Bader.

And how the hell does Alexander Gustafsson come in at #7?

 

Good Lord, man. I want some of whatever you're smoking!!

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So for beating Machida and Liddell' date=' Shogun gets the #1 spot.. Yet Machida, who [b']beat[/b] Shogun, is somehow at #4.. behind Phil Davis (WTF?!!!!) and Ryan Bader.

And how the hell does Alexander Gustafsson come in at #7?

 

Good Lord, man. I want some of whatever you're smoking!!

 

he came in at 6 actually

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he came in at 6 actually

 

Haha' date=' oops! My bad.

Reading his post caused a momentary brain fart. :P

 

Also, how does this work..

HEAVYWEIGHT

 

1:

Cain Velasquez (Brock Lesnar, Antonio Nogueira, Ben Rothwell, Cheick Kongo)

 

2:

Brock Lesnar (Shane Carwin, Frank Mir)

 

3-4:

Shane Carwin (Frank Mir)

 

5-6:

Frank Mir (Mirko Cro Cop, Cheick Kongo, Antonio Nogueira)

Junior Dos Santos (Roy Nelson, Gilbery Yvel, Mirko Cro Cop, Stefan Struve)

 

If Shane Carwin is #3, who is #4 if you've got Mir at #5?

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Either this thread is flooded with trolls or flooded with people who can't read. Read the text at the top before looking at the rankings.

 

And as per the post above, I changed some names around because they were in the wrong spot and forgot to change the rank numbers. Thank you for pointing it out.

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I added it to the main post but I thought i'd post it here to incase people still dont read what these rankings are based on:

 

Since this seems to be confusing some people, here's why the ranks are the way they are. In welterweight Shields, Kampmann and Condit are #1, 2 and 3 because one beat the next who beat the next. It isnt about who the better fighter actually is, this is why GSP is tied for 4th, because you can't trace his wins in the last 2 years to a longer string of wins then the previous 3.

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I added it to the main post but I thought i'd post it here to incase people still dont read what these rankings are based on:

 

Since this seems to be confusing some people' date=' here's why the ranks are the way they are. In welterweight Shields, Kampmann and Condit are #1, 2 and 3 because one beat the next who beat the next. It isnt about who the better fighter actually is, this is why GSP is tied for 4th, because you can't trace his wins in the last 2 years to a longer string of wins then the previous 3.[/quote']

 

And Lyoto's last win is over Shogun, so they should be ranked #1 and #2.

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I added it to the main post but I thought i'd post it here to incase people still dont read what these rankings are based on:

 

Since this seems to be confusing some people' date=' here's why the ranks are the way they are. In welterweight Shields, Kampmann and Condit are #1, 2 and 3 because one beat the next who beat the next. It isnt about who the better fighter actually is, this is why GSP is tied for 4th, because you can't trace his wins in the last 2 years to a longer string of wins then the previous 3.[/quote']

 

So the system is based on MMath?

 

I'm not knocking the thought you've put into it, as it's quite a good post. Just a question.

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LIGHT-HEAVYWEIGHT

 

1-3:

Mauricio Rua (Lyoto Machida, Chuck Liddell)

Phil Davis (Alexander Gustafsson)

Ryan Bader (Antonio Nogueira)

 

4-6:

Lyoto Machida (Mauricio Rua, Rashad Evans, Thiago Silva)

Antonio Nogueira (Jason Brilz, Luiz Cane)

Alexander Gustafsson (Cyrille Diabate, Jared Hamman)

 

7-11:

Rashad Evans (Quinton Jackson, Thiago Silva, Forrest Griffin)

Jon Jones (Vladimir Matyushenko, Brandon Vera, Matt Hamill, Stephan Bonnar)

Jason Brilz (Tim Boetsch)

Cyrille Diabate (Luiz Cane)

Randy Couture (Brandon Vera)

 

Jason Brilz, Luiz Cane > Vladimir Matyushenko, Brandon Vera, Matt Hamill, Stephan Bonnar ???????????

 

Alexander Gustafsson > Mauricio Rua, Rashad Evans, Thiago Silva ???

 

WTF??

 

WTF?????

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