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found this article. Dont know if it was posted already

 

http://www.fedoremelianenko.tv/eng/news/142/

 

Team Fedor Emelianenko: 'Brock Lesnar is a Pure Product of the UFC'

 

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After hearing the entire MMA world come down on Fedor Emelianenko after his upset loss to Fabricio Werdum, it's now M-l Global figurehead Vadim Finkelchtein's turn to fling insults at the man most believed had surpassed his golden boy in the heavyweight hierarchy. If critics thought Emelianenko's credentials were questionable because he's never called the Octagon home, then Vadim professes Brock Lesnar is straight up fugazy after getting annihilated by Cain Velasquez last weekend at UFC 121.

 

"I have long said that Lesnar is more of a product of UFC's PR rather than a serious fighter and that fight clearly confirmed it," Finkelchtein told AllBox.com (translated by Yahoo!). "I do not want to say that Lesnar is a nobody, but he has very little experience.

 

"What does he have, six fights in MMA? He's a pure product of the UFC, who met a real fighter and he lost."

 

While Fedor's outspoken manager was quick to diss the former WWE superstar's resume, he also didn't hesitate to give the newly minted king props on his overall skills.

 

"In my opinion, he is a very good fighter. Capable and strong," Finkelchtein said of Velasquez. "The UFC can now present him as the best in the world, and it is certainly debatable, but he's really a fighter. Not a product of PR."

 

Whatever is going on UFC-side shouldn't be of concern to Finkelchtein, particularly since they haven't been able to iron out a contract extension with Strikeforce. Emelianenko has one fight remaining on his current deal with the San Jose, California based promotion. Both parties - as well as Showtime - have been negotiating for several months to no avail.

Two weeks ago. Team Fedor claimed they would move forward with or without a new agreement in place. To the surprise of nobody, the soft deadline came and went and Emelianenko's impending free agency status is still in limbo. Either way, don't expect to see the world's former/current top heavyweight inside an Octagon anytime soon.

 

"Now we are in active negotiations with Showtime on a contract extension, and perhaps we will renew it, but the UFC does not offer such opportunities and imposes its monopoly conditions," Vaidim added. "They believe that everyone should be in the UFC.

 

"We would love to fight with Lesnar, and Velasquez and all, but why should we give up all these undertakings, all the years spent on Fedor's development will go to them? Fedor did not grow in the UFC, right? So why should he go to the UFC?"

 

So what do you guys think? Do you agree with Fedor's Manager? ....discuss

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How exactly is Brock a product of hype when he fought Cain' date=' Carwin, Mir X 2, Couture and Herring in his first 6 fights when Fedor has been hand picking fights for almost his enitire career which is padded with cans?

 

Does not compute.[/b']

 

I guess he is saying that cause Brock got a title shot after being 1-1 in the UFC and that is was obvious Brock was marketed as the new breed of Heavyweight fighters. He is over looking that after Brock's loss to Mir he defeated his next 4 opponents (including a rematch with Mir) fair and square.

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How exactly is Brock a product of hype when he fought Cain' date=' Carwin, Mir X 2, Couture and Herring in his first 6 fights when Fedor has been hand picking fights for almost his enitire career which is padded with cans?

 

Does not compute.[/b']

 

Fedor fights, Bork runs & goes turtle-up < big difference :P

 

Kim = can

Herring = can

Mir = (t)ko'd by Freeman, Cruz, & Vera

Couture = 16-8 lhw, 15 month layoff = bogus title

Carwin = no viable resume, destroyed Bork in the 1st rd & gassed as we knew he would

 

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... weak try chump !

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Fedor fights' date=' Bork runs & goes turtle-up < big difference :P

 

Kim = can

Herring = can

Mir = (t)ko'd by Freeman, Cruz, & Vera

Couture = 16-8 lhw, 15 month layoff = bogus title

Carwin = no viable resume, destroyed Bork in the 1st rd & gassed as we knew he would

 

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... weak try chump !

Yeah okay lets post Brock and Fedor's first 7 fights I'll get right on it.

Brock's first 7 fights

 

Cain Velasquez (Top 5 HW better than anyone Fedor has ever faced)

Shane Carwin (Top 5 HW better than anyone Fedor has ever faced)

Frank Mir (3 Time UFC champ crushed Nog and Crocop)

Heath Herring (Considered one of Fedors Top opponents but a gatekeeper)

Frank Mir (3 Time UFC champ crushed Nog and Crocop)

Moo Soo Kim (relative can)

 

Fedors first seven fights

 

Martin Lazarov (Who?)

Levon Lagvilava (Who?)

Hiroya Takada (Who?)

Ricardo Arona (LHW)

Kohsaka (Who?)

Apostolov (Who?)

Kerry Shall (Who?)

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Yeah okay lets post Brock and Fedor's first 7 fights I'll get right on it.

 

... better yet' date=' lets compare Emelianenko's fights vs prime-Herring, prime-Rodrigo (2), & prime-Filipovic to Borks wins over Mir, Couture, & Carwin > lmfao !

 

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Yeah okay lets post Brock and Fedor's first 7 fights I'll get right on it.

Brock's first 7 fights

 

Cain Velasquez (Top 5 HW better than anyone Fedor has ever faced)

Shane Carwin (Top 5 HW better than anyone Fedor has ever faced)

Frank Mir (3 Time UFC champ crushed Nog and Crocop)

Heath Herring (Considered one of Fedors Top opponents but a gatekeeper)

Frank Mir (3 Time UFC champ crushed Nog and Crocop)

Moo Soo Kim (relative can)

 

Fedors first seven fights

 

Martin Lazarov (Who?)

Levon Lagvilava (Who?)

Hiroya Takada (Who?)

Ricardo Arona (LHW)

Kohsaka (Who?)

Apostolov (Who?)

Kerry Shall (Who?)

 

... the difference being that Bork got his butt power-whooped 3 times & lhw-Couture

rock n' socked him for 8 minutes :P

 

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... the difference being that Bork got his butt power-whooped 3 times & lhw-Couture

rock n' socked him for 8 minutes :P

 

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In Fedor's first 7 fights he had a cut loss and he got destroyed by Arona, a LHW, who got robbed of a decision. And he didn't even fight anyone mentionable.

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Well The guys that Brock fought were more well known than Fedor's first 7 fights. Fedor started MMA in 2000. But it dosent mean the guys that Fedor fought were not good fighters
It's really like comparing the NBA to a highschool basketball team from the 1950's if you want to be real about it.

 

Brock's first 7 fights

 

Cain Velasquez (Top 5 HW better than anyone Fedor has ever faced)

Shane Carwin (Top 5 HW better than anyone Fedor has ever faced)

Frank Mir (3 Time UFC champ crushed Nog and Crocop)

Heath Herring (Considered one of Fedors Top opponents but a gatekeeper)

Frank Mir (3 Time UFC champ crushed Nog and Crocop)

Moo Soo Kim (relative can)

 

Fedors first seven fights

 

Martin Lazarov (Who?)

Levon Lagvilava (Who?)

Hiroya Takada (Who?)

Ricardo Arona (LHW)

Kohsaka (Who?)

Apostolov (Who?)

Kerry Shall (Who?)

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In Fedor's first 7 fights he had a cut loss and he got destroyed by Arona' date=' a LHW, who got robbed of a decision. And he didn't even fight anyone mentionable.[/quote']

 

I dont see how Fedor's opponents have anything to do with his ability as a fighter. All the guys he faced were in their prime at the time.

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In Fedor's first 7 fights he had a cut loss and he got destroyed by Arona' date=' a LHW, who got robbed of a decision. And he didn't even fight anyone mentionable.[/quote']

 

paper loss/ doctor stoppage & you I know you never watched Tiger vs Emp, or you

wouldn't post that where educated mma fans could read it > .. true story !

 

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I dont see how Fedor's opponents have anything to do with his ability as a fighter. All the guys he faced were in their prime at the time.
Really? Coleman? Randleman? Arlovski? Sylvia?

 

You've been duped if you believe any of those guys were in their prime when Fedor fought them.

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paper loss/ doctor stoppage & you I know you never watched Tiger vs Emp' date=' or you

wouldn't post that where educated mma fans could read it > .. true story !

 

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The Arona fight is available on Youtube for anyone who wants to see it and Fedor got whupped. Against a LHW.
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... lets take a realistic look @ what dingus is actually debating here >

he's comparing Fedor Emelianenko to Brock Lesnar & trying to make a case that Fedor is a phoney ...

 

... does anyone believe he watches MMA or does he just read acid-Wiki ?

 

 

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... lets take a realistic look @ what dingus is actually debating here >

he's comparing Fedor Emelianenko to Brock Lesnar & trying to make a case that Fedor is a phoney ...

 

... does anyone believe he watches MMA or does he just read acid-Wiki ?

 

 

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Anyone who wants to can look through Fedor's record and see how it has been handpicked with cans, middleweights, gatekeepers, LHWs, freakshows, and past their prime fighters.

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The Arona fight is available on Youtube for anyone who wants to see it and Fedor got whupped. Against a LHW.

 

ok' date=' go watch it with your glasses on herbert :eek:, then come back & look foolish <

 

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Anyone who wants to can look through Fedor's record and see how it has been handpicked with cans' date=' middleweights, gatekeepers, LHWs, freakshows, and past their prime fighters.[/quote']

 

& the majority of fans recognize him as the best mma/ hw past & present,

now you're gonna say Cain is GOAT because Chael & Pedro said it on the internet .. ok :rolleyes:

 

 

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& the majority of fans recognize him as the best mma/ hw past & present' date='

now you're gonna say Cain is GOAT because Chael & Pedro said it on the internet .. ok :rolleyes:

 

 

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You can say what you want about Fedor being more accomplished than Cain, but so was Nog and Cain wrecked him, just like he would do to Fedor.

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Fedor is the one saying he's not good enough for the UFC by choosing to fight in Strikeforce instead.

 

there is only 2 fights for Fedor in the UFC >

 

Velasquez

dos Santos

.....................* imo' date=' both would be competitive

 

Strikeforce >

 

Overeem

Werdum ll

Silva

Barnett

Monson

Arlovski ll (many said AA was winning)

Kharitonov

Rogers (you had Grim winning the 1st)

 

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You can say what you want about Fedor being more accomplished than Cain' date=' but so was Nog and Cain wrecked him, just like he would do to Fedor.[/quote']

 

... you're not very mma smart, are you ?

Emelianenko humiliated prime-Rodrigo on the mat in the 1st fight & did the same standing

in the 2nd match ...

 

... you really expect to be taken seriously when you compare Nogueira now to then ?

absurd cretinism on your part dingus .. :rolleyes:

 

 

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Why do any of these guys have to go anywhere other than where they are currently fighting if they are comfortable there?...If Fedor really thought the UFC was that big of a deal then he would have already went there. Obviously he doesn't' date=' and we should leave it at that.[/quote']

 

who wants to see Fedor vs >>>

 

Nelson

Struve'

Nogueira lV

Russow

Hague

Meathead

Stojnic

Duffee

Barry

Mir :P

Crocop ll

................ lets bring back Antoni Hardonk !

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You can say what you want about Fedor being more accomplished than Cain' date=' but so was Nog and Cain wrecked him, just like he would do to Fedor.[/quote']

 

Being accomplished, and still being able to implement your skill in the ring are two different things.

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who wants to see Fedor vs >>>

 

Nelson

Struve'

Nogueira lV

Russow

Hague

Meathead

Stojnic

Duffee

Barry

Mir :P

Crocop ll

................ lets bring back Antoni Hardonk !

 

I would actually watch several of those fights you just named. But the man knows where he is most comfotable and if it's Strikeforce, then it's Strikeforce. There's more high profile names than just Fedor who don't care for the UFC...Mayhem, Aoki, Mousasi, etc. why doesn't anyone ever ***** about them not being there?

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Being accomplished' date=' and still being able to implement your skill in the ring are two different things.[/quote']

 

... I like Cain, but this is the skinny >

 

Win Brock Lesnar TKO (Punches) UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez 10/23/2010 1 4:12

Win Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira KO (Punches) UFC 110 - Nogueira vs. Velasquez 2/20/2010 1 2:20

Win Ben Rothwell TKO (Punches) UFC 104 - Machida vs. Shogun 10/24/2009 2 0:58

Win Cheick Kongo Decision (Unanimous) UFC 99 - The Comeback 6/13/2009 3 5:00

Win Denis Stojnic TKO (Punches) UFC - Fight Night 17 2/7/2009 2 2:34

Win Jake O'Brien TKO (Punches) UFC - Fight Night 14 7/19/2008 1 2:02

Win Brad Morris TKO (Punches) UFC 83 - Serra vs. St. Pierre II 4/19/2008 1 2:10

Win Jeremiah Constant TKO (Punches) Bodog Fight - Clash of the Nations 12/16/2006 1 4:00

Win Jesse Fujarczyk TKO (Punches) Strikeforce - Tank vs. Buentello 10/7/2006 1 1:58

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I would actually watch several of those fights you just named. But the man knows where he is most comfotable and if it's Strikeforce' date=' then it's Strikeforce. There's more high profile names than just Fedor who don't care for the UFC...Mayhem, Aoki, Mousasi, etc. why doesn't anyone ever ***** about them not being there?[/quote']

 

reality = most of the pro-crap you hear about Lesnar comes from the WWE crossover fans,

 

Aoki fans are unaware that the WWE exists .. ;)

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One propmotion is just as good as another IMO' date=' You don't have to fight for a different one just to prove a point to the fans.[/quote']

 

Yes. 100%

 

But people like SCO have been brainwashed to think that UFC is superior in all ways and every other promotion is weak and doesn't matter.

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One propmotion is just as good as another IMO' date=' You don't have to fight for a different one just to prove a point to the fans.[/quote'] .. its the fighter match-ups that spike my interest, not the organization >

 

Yes. 100%

But people like SCO have been brainwashed to think that UFC is superior in all ways and every other promotion is weak and doesn't matter.

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