KingZerxst Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 that during the fights last night, they mentioned Okami as the last person to defeat Silva? Although they left out the fact that Okami won the same way Hamill did against Jon Jones... Just though that was funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven_McTowelie Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 He beat Silva though right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranga Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 that during the fights last night' date=' they mentioned Okami as the last person to defeat Silva? Although they left out the fact that Okami won the same way Hamill did against Jon Jones... Just though that was funny[/quote'] Why would they mention that??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingZerxst Posted November 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 He beat Silva though right? yeah, after Silva knocked him out with an up-kick off his back, Silva got DQ'd. it's not like Okami really 'beat' Silva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingZerxst Posted November 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Why would they mention that??? to hype Okami. so typical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuMaster Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Propaganda as usual by the ufc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady_Champ Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 No they said it was a DQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven_McTowelie Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 but he beat Silva right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingZerxst Posted November 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 No they said it was a DQ. during the talks before the event started, Goldie says "...and the last person to beat Silva: Yushin Okami" he leaves it at that and moves on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalgear Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 No they said it was a DQ. yeah i believe Joe Rogan did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven_McTowelie Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 during the talks before the event started' date=' Goldie says "...and the last person to beat Silva: Yushin Okami" he leaves it at that and moves on[/quote'] but he did beat Silva yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serb-1 Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 yea thank god for rogan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingZerxst Posted November 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 but he did beat Silva yes? yeah' date=' but that's not the point i'm making. i think i might have misheard it, because people are posting back saying that they did announce it was by DQ, in which case: [img']http://southparkstudios-intl.mtvnimages.com/shared/sps/images/shows/southpark/vertical_video/season_14/sp_1411_clip07.jpg?width=480[/img] I'm sorry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KettleBell Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 but he beat Silva right? no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MABFanForLife Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 no According to Okami and Silva's records, Okami got the win. Leaves out the details, but a win is a win, right? The only thing it means is a W on one's record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seXXXpac Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Okami DID defeat Silva. You can't argue that fact. That's exactly what happened. So what if Goldberg neglected to mention that it was by DQ? Big freakin' deal. He was simply stating a FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alliedwarior Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 According to Okami and Silva's records' date=' Okami got the win. Leaves out the details, but a win is a win, right? The only thing it means is a W on one's record.[/quote'] yeah and Montell Griffin "beat" Joy Jones, even though Okami got KOd he got the win, things like that and the jone hamill fight should just be no contests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KettleBell Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 According to Okami and Silva's records' date=' Okami got the win. Leaves out the details, but a win is a win, right? The only thing it means is a W on one's record.[/quote'] I think that's the issue- what does a "W" actually mean. It seems to have more than one meaning. When Goldie said Okami is the last guy to beat Silva it's misleading- b/c it implies that Okami actually beat Silva in a fight (which is the most common meaning) when he didn't. Okami got beat, but Silva got DQed... so Silva got beat. It means something different here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MABFanForLife Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 yeah and Montell Griffin "beat" Joy Jones' date=' even though Okami got KOd he got the win, things like that and the jone hamill fight should just be no contests[/quote'] I agree with the no contest idea. But even though it says that Okami beat Silva, we know that Silva really won. Just like Jones really won against Hamill. And that first L on Fedor's record didn't really count (the second one totally did, though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KettleBell Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Okami DID defeat Silva.You can't argue that fact. That's exactly what happened. So what if Goldberg neglected to mention that it was by DQ? Big freakin' deal. He was simply stating a FACT. Wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven_McTowelie Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Wrong ok dumb dumb a DQ is registered as a lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinosaur Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 yeah he didn't legitimately beat Silva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven_McTowelie Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 yeah he didn't legitimately beat Silva. actually he did as Silva was DQ for something you should not be doing in a fight. Break the rules get the DQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
towhatend Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 yeah he didn't legitimately beat Silva. Decisively is a better word. Either way can we talk about how badly Okami's face is going to look after his title shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KettleBell Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 ok dumb dumb a DQ is registered as a lose relax. it's not that black and white- that's all i'm saying. a "loss," "getting beat," etc usually mean actually losing/getting beat in a fight- not actually winning a fight but getting DQed. there is a huge difference. same word, two vastly different meanings. so Silva both did and did not "get beat." depends how you're using the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven_McTowelie Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 you see theres the problem right there you are using the wrong termanology Anderson "hammered" "murdered" "destroyed" Okami he did not beat him You have to remember the context of when your using the word for example I was playing footbal the other day and my team beat the other team so badly <====== sport context refering to a winner and a loser I was at home the other ight and I beat the hell out of my kid <======= social context where there is no winner or loser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshdfs Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 I have an idea, let's all complain about how the UFC is going to market a fight..... Haven't you all had enough of that already? Does it ever really make the tiniest bit of difference in the fight or whether or not you watch it? Here's a clue kiddos. Advertising and marketing in every single industry in the world can be anywhere from slightly misleading to flat out blatant lies. It is the way it is and all the complaining about it in the world won't change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KettleBell Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 you see theres the problem right there you are using the wrong termanology Anderson "hammered" "murdered" "destroyed" Okami he did not beat him You have to remember the context of when your using the word for example I was playing footbal the other day and my team beat the other team so badly <====== sport context refering to a winner and a loser I was at home the other ight and I beat the hell out of my kid <======= social context where there is no winner or loser silva beat okami, but lost to okami. silva won the fight, but okami got the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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