TornHonor 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 http://blog.fightmetric.com/2010/11/rampage-vs-machida-fightmetric-report.html hmmmmmmm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StaySmartGE 1 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 Fight Metric sucks. Who won in it? Didnt look. And dont want to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TornHonor 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 Fight Metric sucks.Who won in it? Didnt look. And dont want to. That's odd alot of Shogun fan's last year linked it in every Machida thread. It's funny how things change isn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silentson 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 Fight Metric sucks.Who won in it? Didnt look. And dont want to. Lyoto wins their decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nizmo270r 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 one word: octagon control Thats one the reasons Rampage won When a fighter is on the backfoot and the other fighter is moving forward The judges will always give it to the fighter moving forward not the fighter moving backwards So all the Machida fanboys who cry rigged can admit the Machida puzzle has now been figure out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheSquizz 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 Fight Metric sucks.Who won in it? Didnt look. And dont want to. Machida did, that was a disappointing way they scored it though. Apparently to them lyotos grappling made so much more points than rampages much huger amount of strikes landed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ForrestGriffinFan101 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 one word: octagon control Thats one the reasons Rampage won When a fighter is on the backfoot and the other fighter is moving forward The judges will always give it to the fighter moving forward not the fighter moving backwards So all the Machida fanboys who cry rigged can admit the Machida puzzle has now been figure out Rampage and Shogun are the only people that could beat Machida. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TornHonor 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 one word: octagon control Thats one the reasons Rampage won When a fighter is on the backfoot and the other fighter is moving forward The judges will always give it to the fighter moving forward not the fighter moving backwards So all the Machida fanboys who cry rigged can admit the Machida puzzle has now been figure out Why didn't he win the Forrest fight then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McBottery 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 Besides the fact that fightmetric obviously doesn't bring into account aggression and the fact that Machida was constantly running, it still has Rampage winning the first and second rounds individually. What's your point? Edit: By the way, in the ACTUAL FIGHT, extra points from the third round don't carry into the first and second, lawl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juzie 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 It says 29-29 draw. Too bad they forgot to count aggressiveness, therefore making it 29-28 based on the unified rules for the winner- Rampage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FroZeN 14 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 LOL. All the Shogun/Fedor fanboys (because for some reason it seems that all Shogun fanboys also happen to love Fedor) linked this in their threads last year. GTFO you hypocrites. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shinsplint 12 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 Lyoto wins their decision. Yep. And should of got the decision today aswell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kyo_sa 1 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 one word: octagon control Thats one the reasons Rampage won When a fighter is on the backfoot and the other fighter is moving forward The judges will always give it to the fighter moving forward not the fighter moving backwards So all the Machida fanboys who cry rigged can admit the Machida puzzle has now been figure out look fight metric has it significant strikes in 1st rd 12-5 for machida, which is honestly how i saw it watching at home when its something like 6-6 you go with who was more aggressive, when someone clearly hit the other person more, you dont have to go to a tiebreaker like "octagon control" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MMAEars 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 That's odd alot of Shogun fan's last year linked it in every Machida thread. It's funny how things change isn't it? lol +1. Machida was robbed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nizmo270r 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 Why didn't he win the Forrest fight then? Forrest demostrated better octagon control in that fight after his leg kick crippled Page throughout that fight Machida was trying to do the same thing Didn't work Page won fair and square Cry it up haters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kyo_sa 1 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 i mean its like if we have a round, and in 3 minutes i get off on you 5 times and just avoid everything you do, you win the round just cuz your chasing me around? i hit you 5 times you hit me zero, who is winning that fight? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UMCMMA 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 Rampage won rounds 1 and 2 still, he threw more punches and the judges dont get stats and fancy viewing angles to know what landed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainSuperman 19 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 What? Look at this... Round 1 (Machida): Significant Strikes; 12, Total Strikes; 16, Leg Strikes; 12. So a Leg Kick must been a significant strike I guess. Same thing for round 2, which led to "33 Significant Strikes" for Machida. Round 1 (Rampage): Significant Strikes; 5, Total Strikes; 26, Leg Strikes; 12. The same amount as Machida. Round 2 is the same as the first, with Rampage landing more strikes in every area except tying with leg strikes, yet with less significant. Then Round 3 obviously Machida won with the mount and strikes from there. Jackson end up with more strikes landed total, and more strikes to the body and legs. It's just with Machida's "Significant" Leg Kicks that give Machida the fight? Yeah right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TornHonor 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 i mean its like if we have a round' date=' and in 3 minutes i get off on you 5 times and just avoid everything you do, you win the round just cuz your chasing me around? i hit you 5 times [b']you hit me zero[/b], who is winning that fight? so you are saying Lyoto landed nothing?? You sir have the I.Q of a biscuit! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KungFuMaster 1 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 I could care less about fight metric at this point. The judging was horrible. Machida obviously outscored Rampage in the first round with his leg kicks. The other rounds, we do not need to discuss. Shogun fans complained for months after Machida vs Rua I, and it was not even as bad as what happened tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nizmo270r 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 look fight metric has it significant strikes in 1st rd 12-5 for machida' date=' which is honestly how i saw it watching at home when its something like 6-6 you go with who was more aggressive, when someone clearly hit the other person more, you dont have to go to a tiebreaker like "octagon control"[/quote'] A fighter who keeps forward and controls the cage and cutting off the opponent (if everything else is at a stalemate) will always get the W in the judges eyes Machida hugging Page against the fence as well but thats not admitted Face it your boy lost He had his chance in the 3rd but couldn't do it People just need to give Page his credit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicodimus 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 Yep. And should of got the decision today aswell. You clown,if anyone fights "safe".It's your boy Machida.Go drink his pee! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iNOOB 73 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 I'm a big Machida fan. But, I can say it was a fair call. Machida lost the match, but won the fight. Big woop, theres always next fight! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack2Bowl 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 It says 29-29 draw. Too bad they forgot to count aggressiveness' date=' therefore making it 29-28 based on the unified rules for the winner- Rampage.[/quote'] Exactly, also in the fightmetric it clearly says that Rampage won Round 1 and 2. 23-14 Rampage (Round 1) 31-27 Rampage (Round 2) By the UFC's judging by the fightmetric, Rampage still wins. I can make my own judging system where Rampage wins all 3 rounds. Not counting the aggressiveness? Lets not count any leg-kicks. Machida fails, Rampage wins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TornHonor 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 A fighter who keeps forward and controls the cage and cutting off the opponent (if everything else is at a stalemate) will always get the W in the judges eyes Machida hugging Page against the fence as well but thats not admitted Face it your boy lost He had his chance in the 3rd but couldn't do it People just need to give Page his credit How come Penn didn't beat Edgar the first time then? I will never understand MMA judging :'( They need Chuck, Randy, and Bas to judge fights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack2Bowl 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 How come Penn didn't beat Edgar the first time then? I will never understand MMA judging :'( They need Chuck' date=' Randy, and Bas to judge fights.[/quote'] Edgar raped Penn. Rampage landed more strikes, takedowns, and was more aggressive than Machida in Round 1 and 2. Face it, Rampage won, by judges, by forum statistics, by fightmetric. Penn is back though, he should stay at WW to get up the rankings. I would pay to see that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sixshoota 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 Fightmetric doesn't tell the whole story. Octagon control and aggression was a big part in the judging for this fight, obviously. I felt Rampage won the first two rounds and clearly Machida won the third. I don't want to see an immediate rematch but I would like to see one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ians1406052945 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 Octagon control, eh? I could've sworn I saw Lyoto CONTROLLING the hell out Rampage on the ground. And in the only hectic flurry of the fight.. You know, the one where Machida landed about 4-5 blows to Rampage's 1, then scored a takedown that ended up getting him the mount. Hmmm... Even 'page admits he got his *** kicked. You guys need to get out of denial as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TornHonor 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 Edgar raped Penn. Rampage landed more strikes' date=' takedowns, and was more aggressive than Machida in Round 1 and 2. Face it, Rampage won, by judges, by forum statistics, by fightmetric. Penn is back though, he should stay at WW to get up the rankings. I would pay to see that.[/quote'] eh the 2nd fight for sure, but the first fight debatable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kyo_sa 1 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 so you are saying Lyoto landed nothing?? You sir have the I.Q of a biscuit! lol im saying the opposite man!! im saying lyoto landed more so it shouldnt matter who was moving forward Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TornHonor 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 lol im saying the opposite man!! im saying lyoto landed more so it shouldnt matter who was moving forward Then i retract my statement you are a smart man, and offer my apologies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nizmo270r 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 How come Penn didn't beat Edgar the first time then? I will never understand MMA judging :'( They need Chuck' date=' Randy, and Bas to judge fights.[/quote'] Because Edgar was side stepping with speed in and out the pocket with rapid punches and he took Penn down and in the standup Frankie was been the aggressor and landing punches and was outworking Penn in those fights But thats a different fight Rampage won fair and square against Machida Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nizmo270r 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 Octagon control' date=' eh? I could've sworn I saw Lyoto CONTROLLING the hell out Rampage on the ground. And in the only hectic flurry of the fight.. You know, the one where Machida landed about 4-5 blows to Rampage's 1, then scored a takedown that ended up getting him the mount. Hmmm... Even 'page admits he got his *** kicked. You guys need to get out of denial as well.[/quote'] Yes Machida won the 3rd round But lost the first 2 rounds Page admitted Lyoto beat him in the 3rd round Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThE_KiNg_Of_ThE_rInG 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 Did any of you actually read the Metric round by round?? Rampage landed more total strikes in rounds one and two. A justifiable win, and a good call for the judges!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Epilogue1406051983 7 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 judges don't count leg kicks very much... and honestly, rightfully so... if you're judging a fight from ringside what are you going to remember? jackson's flush punch to the face or lyoto's five leg kicks? like I said before... the reasons why Rampage won this fight are the same reasons why Shogun lost Machida vs. Shogun 1... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Epilogue1406051983 7 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 Did any of you actually read the Metric round by round?? Rampage landed more total strikes in rounds one and two. A justifiable win' date=' and a good call for the judges!![/quote'] machida had the more "significant strikes" though... however most of them were leg kicks in the first and second so..... I digress to my last post... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xMaximuM 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 one word: octagon controlThats one the reasons Rampage won When a fighter is on the backfoot and the other fighter is moving forward The judges will always give it to the fighter moving forward not the fighter moving backwards So all the Machida fanboys who cry rigged can admit the Machida puzzle has now been figure out Thats 2 words moron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nizmo270r 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 Thats 2 words moron Okay 2 words then smart *** Are you the grammar and spelling forum police GTFO!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xMaximuM 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 Okay 2 words then smart ***Are you the grammar and spelling forum police GTFO!! No I just know how to count to 2 have a nice day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TornHonor 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 Thats 2 words moron rofl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pernell 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 A fighter who keeps forward and controls the cage and cutting off the opponent (if everything else is at a stalemate) will always get the W in the judges eyes Machida hugging Page against the fence as well but thats not admitted Face it your boy lost He had his chance in the 3rd but couldn't do it People just need to give Page his credit ^^^ This Besides who wants to see someone run for two rounds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KRYME 8 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 That's odd alot of Shogun fan's last year linked it in every Machida thread. It's funny how things change isn't it? it's true. Shogun fans always bought up fight metrics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTASlexii 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 What? Look at this... Round 1 (Machida): Significant Strikes; 12' date=' Total Strikes; 16, Leg Strikes; 12. So a Leg Kick must been a significant strike I guess. Same thing for round 2, which led to "33 Significant Strikes" for Machida. Round 1 (Rampage): Significant Strikes; 5, Total Strikes; 26, Leg Strikes; 12. The same amount as Machida. Round 2 is the same as the first, with Rampage landing more strikes in every area except tying with leg strikes, yet with less significant. Then Round 3 obviously Machida won with the mount and strikes from there. Jackson end up with more strikes landed total, and more strikes to the body and legs. It's just with Machida's "Significant" Leg Kicks that give Machida the fight? Yeah right.[/quote'] 7 more significant strikes is quite a bit more lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMac614 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2010 Too bad fight metrics doesnt factor in that Machida was running from Rampage for 75% of the fight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
