lfressa Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 For me, Lyoto won Rd1, despites walking back the whole time, Machida was the one starting the exchange, with leg kicks, and landed some combinations, Rampage only wall n stalled him and laded some dirty boxing strikes, so i'd give to Machida Rd2, Machida walked back the whole time, but did nothing in this round, Rampage dominated him, so it's Jackson Rd3, Machida, just Machida I dont even think it would be a close call to give it to Lyoto But...... Rampage was talking about retirement, and he is a huge PPV seller, Dana wouldn't like him to retire, so what did he do, give the guy a victory and try to keep him in the sport, I wouldn't be a least bit surprised if Quinton get a Title shot. I mean, for Dana, the guy doesn't need to show skills, he needs to sell out the fight ( Lesnar's case) so Dana rathers a "past his prime" fighter (i hate to say that, but sadly he doesnt care about fighting anymore) that helps him pay for his yatch than a top skilled karateca that probably will fight for the title many times in the next years. What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIMBOB Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 I think the judging is to far removed from Dana's influence. Also I gave 1 and 2 to Page, 3 to Machida. Machida did better in 3 than page did in 1 or 2 but not enough to earn a 10-8 so Page wins and I have no issus even though I now have that stupid line in my sig below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfressa Posted November 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 I think the judging is to far removed from Dana's influence. Also I gave 1 and 2 to Page' date=' 3 to Machida. Machida did better in 3 than page did in 1 or 2 but not enough to earn a 10-8 so Page wins and I have no issus even though I now have that stupid line in my sig below.[/quote'] He may not have that influence, but money does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G__row Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 Dana has absolutely no say whatsoever on who wins a fight. He has stated on many occasions that he does not agree with the judges, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSuperman Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 He may not have that influence' date='but money does[/quote'] Ummm... No. I really doubt that Dana could even get away with such a thing without word getting out from someone. You act like bad decisions have never happened in the UFC. Well they have, and will continue until we get educated judges. Plus, it's not like Dana or anyone could have planned the fight to be as close as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfressa Posted November 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 Dana has absolutely no say whatsoever on who wins a fight.He has stated on many occasions that he does not agree with the judges' date='[/quote'] yes, but this time he agreed with the judges and Quinton's victory would be good to the "sport", i don't know, maybe because i'm brazilian and 95% of the ppl are corrupt in here so i got a diferent vison people and their values, but it's easy to "kill one to save two" and i know that there are no saints in the ufc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfressa Posted November 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 Ummm... No. I really doubt that Dana could even get away with such a thing without word getting out from someone. You act like bad decisions have never happened in the UFC. Well they have' date=' and will continue until we get educated judges. Plus, it's not like Dana or anyone could have planned the fight to be as close as that.[/quote'] i'm not saying that all decisions were propositaly mistaked. But the major expectance was that Lyoto would beat Rampage, so when the opportunity appeared, they just grabbed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSuperman Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 i'm not saying that all decisions were propositaly mistaked. But the major expectance was that Lyoto would beat Rampage' date=' so when the opportunity appeared, they just grabbed it.[/quote'] It's organized sports, not organized crime. The judges seen it his way, well 2 of them at least, and it's not that far fetched. There are reasons for a Rampage win, and reasons for a Lyoto win. It's not like it was impossible for Rampage to have won it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfressa Posted November 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 It's organized sports' date=' not organized crime. The judges seen it his way, well 2 of them at least, and it's not that far fetched. There are reasons for a Rampage win, and reasons for a Lyoto win. It's not like it was impossible for Rampage to have won it.[/quote'] As i said before, i dont see how Jackson won it, plus, i dont see no sport entity completly honest, this last one it's sad, but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nizmo270r Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 Damn Machida fans are so butt hurt Why can't they admit that he lost If Machida has pushed the pace in Rd 2 He would have taken the W But he didn't so he has himself to blame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSuperman Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 As i said before' date=' i dont see how Jackson won it, plus, i dont see no sport entity completly honest, this last one it's sad, but true.[/quote'] Okay, but that's you. Imagine how all the Shogun fans felt in the first Machida fight, which you probably think he won too, right? He should get all of his decision wins huh? You ARE Brazilian, and DO have a bias, obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkie Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 What is it with all you ****ing retards screaming conspiracy every time they don't agree with a decision? Jesus Christ, you ****s really should plan and execute a world wide suicide pact. Anyways, the decision was close, but Rampage won by being aggressive. "Effective Aggression"? Ring a bell to anyone? Although he wasn't all that effective, he was the one chasing the fight. It's human nature to assume that the person that is pushing forward is the one in control. I realize that's not the case with Machida usually, but he didn't do anything until the 3rd round. The first round was close, could've went either way, but I'd lean towards Page because he was the one controlling the action. 2nd, Page simply because he got the takedown. 3rd, all Machida, but definitely no 10-8. Whatever the case, you retards need to drop the conspiracy talk by ending your existence. Please, you really are worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoZZez Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 I am a Machida fan and can say it could have went either way. The judges put Rampages control over the shots Lyoto out anded on him. It sucks but its not like it was highway robbery. Lyoto got caught by Rua and everyone thought he was done. He still traded with Rampage, if he tweaks his style to add just a little more aggressiveness while keeping his elusiveness, he will be a top fighter for some time to come. But as it stands, if people do not engage him, he cannot land the flurries to show the judges he is winning. Its a coin toss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynan Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 I saw Rampage winning it before the decision was announced, but I must admit it was very close, and I even picked it would be a split decision. This is coming from someone who gave Rampage virtually zero chance of winning before the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbrahams Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 Rampage won, 'nuff said (I was going for Machida but I knew he lost) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinsplint Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 Lyoto lost. He should of upped the tempo of the fight. I personally think he won. But he didnt. shin aint happy BUT life goes on. Let's hope Lyoto finally learns from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throw_Bones Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 As i said before' date=' i dont see how Jackson won it, plus, i dont see no sport entity completly honest, this last one it's sad, but true.[/quote'] all you saw was Machida win round 3 Rampage won round 1&2 pretty clearly, Rampage outstruck Machida and had octagon control a takedown and controled in the clinch.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanshaker Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 Lyoto lost. He should of upped the tempo of the fight. I personally think he won. But he didnt. shin aint happy BUT life goes on. Let's hope Lyoto finally learns from this. everyone should read this post out loud to themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reapers_bane Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 The reason Rampage won is because he used a different entrance music it got machida too like it so much that he felt sorry if he had to beat page because of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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