TheHorror Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Often times we say that this camp is the best, blah blah blah. Well I decided to take it into my own hands and do this rationally without bias. 5 camps 15 of their best fighters. Chute Box, Team Quest, Rough House and Wolfslair were excluded due to a lack of 15 recognizable fighters fighting high grade competition. Black House Big Nog- Former UFC Interim Heavyweight Champion, former Pride champion- 32-6-1(1) Lil Nog- 19-4 Anderson Silva- Current UFC Middleweight Champion- 27-4 Lyoto Machida- Former UFC Light Heavyweight Champion- 16-2 Feijao- Current Strikeforce Light Heavyweight Champion- 10-2 JDS- Curren #1 contender in UFC Heavyweight division- 12-1 Jose Aldo- Current UFC Featherweight Champion- 18-1 Mario Miranda- 12-2 Paulo Filho- Former WEC Middleweight Champion- 20-2-1 Pedro Rizzo- 19-9 Andre Galvao- 5-1 Mark Munoz- 9-2 Wagney Fabiano- 14-3 Diego Nunes- 15-1 Jacare- Current Strikeforce Middleweight Champion- 13-2 Total Record: 241-43-2(1) Win Ratio: 5.6046:1 3 Former Champions, 4 Current Champions, one #1 contender Jackson's MMA GSP- Current UFC Welterweight Champion- 20-2 Keith Jardine- 15-9-1 Shane Carwin- Former UFC Interim Heavyweight Champion- 12-1 *Rashad Evans- TUF 2 Heavyweight winner, Former UFC Light Heavyweight Champion, #1 contender in UFC Light Heavyweight division- 15-1-1 Nate Marquardt- 30-10-2 Brendan Schaub- 7-1 Jon Jones- 11-1 Carlos Condit- Former WEC Welterweight Champion- 26-5 Diego Sanchez- TUF 1 Middleweight winner- 22-4 Clay Guida- Former Strikeforce Lightweight Champion- 27-11 Andre Arlovski- Former UFC Heavyweight Champion- 15-8 Donald Cerrone- 12-3(1) Roger Huerta- 21-5-1(1) Melvin Guillard- 25-8-2 Joe Stevenson- TUF 2 Welterweight winner- 31-11 Total Record: 289-80-7(2) Win Ratio: 3.6125:1 4 Former Champions, 1 Current Champion, 3 TUF winner, one #1 contender. *UFC counts 5 fights being 2 amateur bouts, and 3 TUF bouts, not included here. AKA Cain Velasquez- Current UFC Heavyweight Champion- 9-0 Paul Buentello- 28-13 Daniel Cormier- 6-0 Phil Davis- 8-0 Billy Evangelista- 11-0(1) Jon Fitch- 23-3(1) Takanori Gomi- Former Pride Champion- 32-6(1) Josh Koscheck- Current #1 contender in UFC Welterweight- 15-4 Cung Le- Former Strikeforce Middleweight Champion- 7-1 Mike Swick- 14-4 Trevor Prangley- 23-6-1 Josh Thomson- Former Strikeforce Lightweight Champion, #1 contender toStrikeforce ------------------Lightweight Title- 18-3(1) Bobby Lashley- 5-1 Mike Kyle- 18-7-1 Luke Rockhold- 7-1 Totla Record: 224-49-2 Win Ratio: 4.5714:1 3 Former Champions, 1 Current Champion, 2 #1 contenders ATT Thiago Alves- 17-7 Mike Brown- Former WEC Featherweight Champion- 24-6 Thiago Silva- 14-2 Tyron Woodley- 7-0 Cole Miller- 17-4 Mark Bocek- 9-3 Yves Edwards- 39-16-1 Denis Kang- 33-12-2(2) Hector Lombard- Current Bellator Middleweight Champion- 27-2-1(1) Jeff Monson- 39-11 Alessio Sakara- 15-7(1) Ben Saunders- 9-3-2 Jorge Santiago- Current Sengoku Middleweight Champion-23-8 Wilson Gouveia- 12-8 Gleison Tibau- 21-7 Total Record: 306-96-6(4) Win Ratio: 3.1875:1 1 Former Champion, 2 Current Champions Xtreme Couture Randy Couture- Former UFC Heavyweight Champion, Former UFC Light Heavyweight -------------------Champion- 19-10 Forrest Griffin- TUF 1 Light Heavyweight winner, Former UFC Light Heavyweight Champion-------------17-6 Gray Maynard- #1 Contender to UFC Lightweight Title- 10-0(1) Martin Kampmann- 17-4 Evan Dunham- 11-1 Tyson Griffin- 14-5 Amir Sadollah- TUF 7 Middleweight winner- 4-2 Stephan Bonnar- 12-7 Mike Pyle- 20-7-1 Johny Hendricks- 9-0 Gina Carano- 7-1 Frank Trigg- 20-8 Jay Hieron- 19-4 Todd Duffee- 6-1 John Alessio- 30-13 Total Record: 215-69-1(1) Win Ratio: 3.1159:1 2 Former Champions, 2 TUF winners, one #1 contender. Ranking by Win Ratio 1. Black House 2. AKA 3. Jackson's MMA 4. ATT 5. Xtreme Couture Extras Most wins- ATT (306) Most losses- ATT (96) Most veterans(25+ fights)- Jackson's MMA (8) Most rookies(-10 fights)- AKA (7) Most KOs- Jackson's MMA (112) Most SUBs- ATT (136) Most Decisions- Jackson's MMA (75) Least KOs- Xtreme Couture (67) Least SUBs- AKA (63) Least Decisions- Xtreme Couture (64) Best Overall Finishers(KOs+SUBs)- ATT (240) Worst Overall Finishers- Xtreme Couture (146) Most Current Campions- Black House (4) Most Former Champions- Jackson's MMA (4) Most TUF Winners- Jackson's MMA (3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCCagerattler Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Nice job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady_Champ Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Awesome stats. As I suspected when I first opened the thread... Blackhouse#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarDawg Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Nice. thanks for taking the time to look all of this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verJJ Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Its not accurate. Its not like each fighter has been in their respective camps since starting 0-0. For example Anderson Silva hasn't been with black house his whole career, people like Guida and Guillard just joined Greg Jackson's. Whoever produces the most champs is the better camp, nothing else really matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTASlexii Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Good thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uaquin Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Its not accurate. Its not like each fighter has been in their respective camps since starting 0-0. For example Anderson Silva hasn't been with black house his whole career' date=' people like Guida and Guillard just joined Greg Jackson's. Whoever produces the most champs is the better camp, nothing else really matters.[/quote'] Good points. There is some major differences in camps styles. Blackhouse and Jacksons are more camps where established fighters go to get better. These fighters tend to have their own places where they train most of the year and go to Jackson's or Black House for some or all of the actual 8-12 week fight camp and game planning. ATT, AKA, Extreme Couture and Wand Fight Team are more camps that take young raw fighters and build the talented ones into top notch guys. You see lots of amateurs and up and comers training there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCisGSP Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 ExtrasMost wins- ATT (306) Most losses- ATT (96) Most veterans(25+ fights)- Jackson's MMA (8) Most rookies(-10 fights)- AKA (7) Most KOs- Jackson's MMA (112) Most SUBs- ATT (136) Most Decisions- Jackson's MMA (75) Least KOs- Xtreme Couture (67) Least SUBs- AKA (63) Least Decisions- Xtreme Couture (64) Best Overall Finishers(KOs+SUBs)- ATT (240) Worst Overall Finishers- Xtreme Couture (146) Most Current Campions- Black House (4) Most Former Champions- Jackson's MMA (4) Most TUF Winners- Jackson's MMA (3) Good work. Even if some of the comments above are valid. I'd like to say that I find the above bolded interesting... For a camp that is apparently "ruining the sport with point fighters" this is a hell of a statistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHorror Posted November 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 The win ratio is based on how many wins a camp has for every loss, so the amount of fights a fighter has doesn't come into account, for example if a fighter has 6 fights going 4-2 his win ratio will be 2:1, the same as if a fighter hypotetically had 1,500,000 fights going 1,000,000-500,000. The ratio would still be 2:1. Also, The list of fighter for each camp includes recognizable fighters that currently represent their respective camps at this time. If for some reason Anderson Silva, Lyoto Machida and Big Nog switched to Jackson's the stats would change. It's based on the fighters that the camp currently trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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